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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

1846.0. "European Auto Challenge" by BERN02::SOLAYMANTASH (Sally with an M.) Wed Jul 29 1992 09:59

    Hi Noters,

    How  would you like  to join me in  seeing the  12 Capitals of Europe?
    (in 7 days or less!!)
    I am hoping to enter a DIGITAL team in a driving challenge (to collect
    money for childrens charity) and I need your HELP.
    It starts in Paris (on 27th Sept) and ends in London (estimated 7 days
    later).  All cars MUST go  through check points  set at  10 other  EEC
    capital  cities and  MUST use  normal scheduled ferry  crossings where
    neccessary. All cars MUST honour to the speeding limit of each country
    they pass though (OUCH!). It will cost �650 to enroll (�500 refundable
    if participants drop out).
    This is a HUGE European event and is to be covered by ALL press (hence
    a LOT of potential for sponcerships).

    I need drivers, a car and sponcerships (not asking for a lot am I????).
    I am working  on getting sponcership from Digital  Switzerland (problem
    is that CH is not part of the EEC!!!) and I would like other candidates
    do the same from the country they are representing.
    I would  happily offer  my own car  (Calibra 16V)  but I  think we need
    something  more spacious  (Is anybody  willing to give up their company
    car for a week?).
    As  well  as sponcership  from Digital  I'll be  looking at  other non
    compatitive  companies.  As I am  currently based  in Switzerland  I'm
    having problems so I will appreciate a helping hand.

    Not a lot of time left to enroll so please HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP.


    Many thanks in Advance.
    Sally,

    PS. You may contact me on
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1846.1ULYSSE::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @VBE, DTN 828-5584Wed Jul 29 1992 10:243
    .0�    (problem is that CH is not part of the EEC !!!)
    
    yet, but isn't that is likely to change in the next 10 years ?
1846.2UFHIS::GVIPONDWed Jul 29 1992 12:235
    
    Care to enter a few more details, like the names and order of the cities 
    to be passed through. 
    
    Sounds fun.
1846.3If I survive this.....BERN02::SOLAYMANTASHSally with an M.Wed Jul 29 1992 15:4225
    Hi,

    .1
    I agree but I have not found many Swiss that do!!!!!!!

    .2
    This is all the detail I have managed to get from the organizers so
    far. The rest of the info is in the registeration packs which the teams
    will get after enrollment.

    I believe that the route is up to each individual group, so this is
    not just the test of driving skills but also ENDURANCE (you'll need
    that to spend a week in a car with 3 other smelly people!), PLANNING
    (where are we going??), MAP READING (Knowing that you have to look at
    the map of Holland to find Lisbon!), TEAM WORK (having the other 3 team
    members pointing in three different direction while the driver takes
    the fourth!!!), ORGANIZATIONAL SKILLS (ensuring that all team members
    who leave Paris end up in London - together!), etc, etc.... 
    (Do we have enough people in digital to cover all these points?????).

    When I last spoke to the organizers (yesterday morning) they had 3
    spaces as the result of cancellations....
    

    Sally.
1846.4Sounds interesting!DOOZER::JENKINSSuitably refreshedWed Jul 29 1992 18:3914
    

    Q.    Do you have to have four people to a car?
    
    Q.    What do you get for the �650?
    
    Q.   Is there a fixed route or can you decide which is best? 

    Q.   Is there a fixed start/finish point?

    
    Thanks for any info.

    Richard.
1846.5I'm interested tooVOGON::MORGANClouds of Anger, Tears of RainWed Jul 29 1992 18:5410
    
    Mmmm.
    
    Must admit it does sound a bit of a gas.
    
    MAybe, just maybe, if we could get x 4 bods from the U.K. PHH might
    come up with a car/sponsorship ??
    
    RIch
    
1846.6First car in...more to go...BERN02::SOLAYMANTASHSally with an M.Thu Jul 30 1992 09:5918
    Hi,

    We already have the first car filled... Yeapppppppppie....
    But, there is nothing to say that we can't enter more than one car! So,
    if there is enough intrest (there seems to be) we can get a second team
    in.
    However, in the meantime, I desperately need people who can help with
    the sponcer chasing... I have a list of possible sponcers and I need
    people who are persuasive enough, and have the time, to chase these
    leads.
    Thanks for all the responce so far. PLEASE keep them coming. I have
    done quite a few charity events and believe me the END RESULT is worth
    it and every little help will move us closer to the final goal.

    MANY THANKS,
    Sally.
    PS. I'm popping over to England tonight. I will try to go and see the
        organizers and get more detailed info out of them. Watch this space.
1846.7Project consultantNSDC::SIMPSONThu Jul 30 1992 17:2235
You other notes readers have it easy. "Sally with an M" has turned up at
Neuch�tel and is trying to "persuade" several of us to compete.

I'm helping to find a car :-)

What does the panel think the ideal car to do (for arguement's sake) 12,000
miles in seven days with 4 drivers (tachometered)?

I reckon that you need:

	- Something that has sleeping accommodation for two
	- Has room for a porta-potty (pretty base, hmm?!)
	- Only needs to be able to cruise at 130-140 kph, but has some 
	  'grunt' for overtaking lorries on open roads.
	- Has a range of 5-600 miles between fill ups.
	- Will only need a roadside service once (most cars should be OK
	  here)

Even better would be:

	- Cooking facilities on the move (a week of biscuits, cake & 
	  sandwiches could get pretty monotonous)
	- A fridge for cold drinks.

My vote would be for a 115 bhp VW T4 camper van - they handle superbly, have an
80 litre tank (average consumption likely to be 32-35 mpg), and have enough
poke to get past slow moving vehicles provided that the manoeuvre is planned
well in advance! Also, being high up, you can see over cars which have rear
parcel shelf blinds fitted (rathole alert).

Does anyone else have completely different ideas about what to take?

Cheers

Steve
1846.8This could be really funUFHIS::GVIPONDFri Jul 31 1992 12:0514
    
    Do you have to take 4 people  and do you intend to drive non-stop or
    will you be stopping on a night in Hotels ?
    
    If you only require 2 seats, I'd take something like a 928, comfy,
    airconditioned, (needed if your going to Lisbon/Madrid etc), loadsa
    grunt, and you dont have to travel all the time, a couple of hours @180
    would allow toilet stops and you could still keep to the average
    120 kph required. The independantly cooled glove box would keep the
    cokes and choclate biscuits in fine fettel also ;-)
    
    Anbody an idea of which Capitals would be used ? if its all the EEC
    ones then its going to be tough going from Athens to Lisbon or Dublin.
    
1846.9I'd fancy a big Mercedes estate (with air-con)!DOOZER::JENKINSSuitably refreshedFri Jul 31 1992 14:459
    

    If the cars are "tachoed" and no speeding is allowed, then 12k miles
    in 7 days isn't on. With no stops whatsoever it works out at over
    a 70mph average!
    
    Still, I fancy a crack at it! Could be fun!
    
    
1846.10RUTILE::BISHOPWhat the HELL are you talking about man!Thu Aug 06 1992 09:539
    Has anyone thought about the possibility that the rules mean "no
    speeding in certain countries"?
    
    IE. When going through Germany on the Autobahn, i'm sure you'd be
    allowed to do up to the speed limit! ;-)
    
    Therefore something like an Espace or even better a Voyager would be
    ideal... now who's got one they don't mind putting an extra 12k on
    in 7 days!? ;-)