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Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

1482.0. "Who do you think you are!!!!!" by SHAPES::DIGGINSR () Thu Jun 27 1991 12:59

    Who do you think you are?????
    
    
    I read in the Today newspaper today that Ayrton Senna was stopped on
    the M40 motorway yesterday on his way to Silverstone.  He was of course
    stopped for speeding in a Honda (Today dont give details of car).  This
    according to Today gave the officers involved a wonderful opportunity
    to say :
    
    "Who do you think you are,   Ayrton Senna"
    
    To their astonishment he was!!!!!!
    
    The whole point about this note that it then goes on to say that when
    the policemen realised who he was, he was told not to drive so fast and
    sent on his way after giving the policemen an autograph each.
    
    Why the hell should a professional Racing Driver be let off like this.
    
    He of all people should realise the importance of speed limits because
    you cant rely on other peoples responsibilities!!!
    
    What do you think???? Should famous people in general be let off
    because of the high public profile they have.
    
    I think not!!!  How about you lot!!
   
    Russ
    
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1482.1NEWOA::SAXBYA light bulb lasts longer?Thu Jun 27 1991 13:259
    
    I think he should be given a 6 month prison sentence...
    
    
    
    It might improve Williams chances of winning the World Championships!
    :^)
    
    Mark
1482.2I suppose this depends on how famous you are ;-)UFHIS::GVIPONDThu Jun 27 1991 13:442
    
    	
1482.3HAMPS::LINCOLN_JWhere sheep dareThu Jun 27 1991 14:153
	It mainly depends on whether you believe what's in newspapers.

	-John
1482.4He is my idol thus hes always rightRTOEU::TRAYNERNosey Tony... @(���)@Thu Jun 27 1991 14:217
    
    Sun = 150MPM, Star = 140MPH, Today = 130MPH, Mail = 110MPH
    Express = 99.9MPH, Guardian = 90MPH, Independant = 70MPH
    Actual speed 69MPH
    
    PS. I bet it was an NSX and the policeman didnt care a *oss who it was;-)
                                         
1482.5:^)NCEIS1::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux, Nice, 828-6995Thu Jun 27 1991 14:294
    .4�        I bet it was an NSX and the policeman didnt care a *oss who it was;-)
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    Do policemen have NSX'es as patrol cars ? How could they follow ?
1482.6accostomed to speed = lower risk...ODDONE::BELL_A1Thu Jun 27 1991 14:4710
    
    
    
    It all depends what he left is 'autograph' on.....
    
     could it have been a statement saying that he admitted speeding, and
    would produce his license at a convienient station.. :-)
    
      Al
    
1482.7Do the business Nigel-M!!!IRNBRU::WILSONThu Jun 27 1991 15:4918
    
    Personally, I would string the little speeder up by the proverbials.
    He surely MUST realise the pro's and con's of speeding on public
    roads......if not then he needs a couple of weeks in a cell to remind
    him. Anyone who drives over the "ton", needs a check-up from the neck-up!  
    
    I really do not believe that they "police" asked for a autograph, before 
    letting him go.....what a load of garbage!!!
    
    Over the last few years, we have all read about the increases in tragic
    deaths due to the "speed merchant" brigade. If caught, then the "toys"
    should be taken away and sold off. He may be the best driver in the
    world, but it takes two "or ten", cars to cause a crash!!!! 
    
    When is the next flight back to Brazil Ayrton??????
    
    
    
1482.8Good old plod?BRUMMY::BELLMartin Bell, {watch this space} Birmingham UKThu Jun 27 1991 16:1122
    How can any of you start passing judgement on the poor chappy?
    
    You don't know what speed he was actually doing, what the road
    conditions were, what the weather was like, what car he was driving or
    anything!!!
    
    And lets face it, Senna is one of the few people who regularly drives
    at speeds of 2 to 3 times the speed limit on roads far narrower than
    motorways.
    
    If he was driving safely, the Police may only have pulled him in case
    it was a stolen car or a p*ss-head. I would have a lot of respect for a
    Policeman who respected a good driver, regardless of speed, and the
    fact that it just "happened" to be Senna - so what!!!!
    
    Get some facts first.
    
    	mb
    
    p.s.
    
    ... and i don't particularly like Senna anyway.
1482.9Enforce the law in spirit or word?NEWOA::SAXBYA light bulb lasts longer?Thu Jun 27 1991 16:1310
    
    What do you think of the case where two people helped a Russian spy
    to escape but were let off by the jury, despite being guilty in the
    eyes of the law?
    
    If you think Senna should have been nicked for speeding (whatever the
    circumstances) you presumably believe these two 'peace campaigners' 
    should also have been jailed?
    
    Mark
1482.10Two mindsTIMMII::RDAVIESI can't tryp for notsThu Jun 27 1991 17:0425
>><<< Note 1482.8 by BRUMMY::BELL "Martin Bell, {watch this space} Birmingham UK" >>>
>>                              -< Good old plod? >-

>>    How can any of you start passing judgement on the poor chappy?
    
>>    You don't know what speed he was actually doing, what the road
>>    conditions were, what the weather was like, what car he was driving or
>>    anything!!!
    
    Agree with that...
    
    
>>    And lets face it, Senna is one of the few people who regularly drives
>>    at speeds of 2 to 3 times the speed limit on roads far narrower than
>>    motorways.
    
    HOWEVER,
    This makes it worse! he's used to driving at high speed with everyone
    of the same mind, of a similar skill level, high on adrenalin and
    knowing what's expected of them. He is in a totally different
    environment on public roads. This sort of driving taken onto a public
    road could be lethel!.
    
    Richard
    
1482.11IMVHO...46010::AND_KISSESScott MarshallThu Jun 27 1991 17:107
Given that Senna's mentality is "get out of my way or I'll force my way through
anyway and crash into you", I wouldn't want to be on a public road within 100
miles of the guy...

And I wonder how much experience he has of driving on *British* roads...

Scott
1482.12No Autobahns here matey!44126::WILSONThu Jun 27 1991 17:3615
    A LAW of this country, makes it ILLEGAL for ANYONE to exceed 70MPH on a 
    motorway. And that includes arrogant little SH**S from other countries.
    
    IF he has been doing 130+ MPH, then a spell at HM pleasure would do the
    trick, before he wipes out a whole family, as they legally drive down the 
    motorway on their annual holidays!
    
    Yes, of course I, and probably you, have exceeded that limit, but 130+ is
    a death threat!!!!!!
     
    
    
    
    
                                                  
1482.13Maybe planes should fly <70mph n'allBRUMMY::BELLMartin Bell, {watch this space} Birmingham UKThu Jun 27 1991 17:4310
    The curves on motorways are specifically designed for speeds up to
    130MPH - thus the road is suitable.
    
    You do not know the traffic conditions or the weather or the car, and
    you don't even know what speed he was doing - so you can't pass comment
    for any other reason.
    
    Does anyone have any more details?
    
    mb
1482.14Wrong noteTSGDEV::WAITEThings are fine in Mt. Idy she goes onThu Jun 27 1991 17:512
This whole topic should be moved to the 'Silly questions' note:-)

1482.15details PLEASE...RTOEU::TRAYNERNosey Tony... @(���)@Thu Jun 27 1991 18:1810
    RE. last
    Agreed.......Can someone read the papers in the UK and tell us the
    details..was he doing a 100 or 130 as 'sort of' mentioned in earlier
    notes......or is it the usuall c**p from the tabloids?
    
    Besides, it makes no difference who it was, the law says 70MPH. 
    
    Wilson,  even at 70MPH you can still take out 'a whole family on there
    hols'...its not just speed that counts ...re nose to bumber sierras on
    the M25 ;-)
1482.16A reader writes...DCC::MARTINThe Corporate Rat... 865 1126Thu Jun 27 1991 18:2712
    
    	I reckon they should string him up with piano wire its the only
    langauge these people really understand and to think that he could have
    killed an entire brace of breeding hedgehogs as well by his selfish
    and stupid attitude after all that Alain Prost got done on the Frog
    Autoroute the other year and he got fined lost his license as well
    these superstar drivers are all the same of course the Sun reckons he
    was doing over 180 in some super Jap motor my dad who built railways in
    Burma says he would never buy one of their cars and they reckon he gave
    plod his autograph string them up as well I hear that Gazza is going
    to join Williams now that he can't play footie anymore my mum of course
    loves that Nigel Mansell reckons he'll win at Silverstone...
1482.17Wot no brakes�PAKORA::DSTEVENSONFri Jun 28 1991 01:575
    I drove down the M8 at 145mph in the pouring rain and thought it was
    completely safe. The only people who seem to complain about this
    type of driving are the owners of cars that can't go fast enough.
    Personally I think we should follow Germany and abolish speed limits on
    the motorway. 
1482.18&%^$#^&%#$^*%$*&MASALA::DMCGREGORCeltic are the topsFri Jun 28 1991 02:047
    
    
    DSTEVENSON,
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1482.2045607::KERRELLDave Kerrell @RDL 899-5279Sun Jun 30 1991 16:253
I was amazed at this incident, I'd just overtaken Senna at the time.

/Dave.
1482.21Outside lane hog!DOOZER::JENKINSseriously &#039;ken shabbyMon Jul 01 1991 20:006
    
    
    Ayrton was lucky. Coz he was a star he got let off. I'm being done
    for tailgating him!
    
    
1482.22UFHIS::GVIPONDTue Jul 02 1991 10:076
    
    
    You should have followed me when I undertook him on the hard shoulder
    that way the police wouldn't have caught you either, dont you just hate
    these people who hog the fast lane.
    
1482.23slow one.DCC::HAGARTYEssen, Trinken und Shaggen...Wed Jul 03 1991 14:014
Ahhh Gi'day...�

    I wondered  what  held  him  up,  I  was having a burger at Silverstone
    waiting for him. 
1482.24I am not making this up!AYOV10::DHUNTERFri Jul 05 1991 16:1015
    Another amusing story indirectly involving the fast man from Brazil.
    
    Some months ago, the Glasgow Herald Editorial staff decided to do a
    profile on Mr. Senna. Accordingly, some deputy Editor instructed the
    YTS Gopher to nip down to the Records/Library within the Herald and
    dig up everything he could find on Ayrton Senna.
    
    The young laddie went off immediately to comply with this request. 
    Some time later he returned and handed over a folder filled with
    interesting material on...
    
    AYR TOWN CENTRE !!
    
    Don H.