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Name | Date | Lines |
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| 769.15 | 518?? | WOTVAX::ANDERSONE | its going to happen in kololi | Wed Mar 14 1990 13:14 | 4 |
| I am told that BM are bringing out a 518 soon.
Can anyone comment on this, please
Eddie
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| 769.17 | Never thought I'd see the day... | RUTILE::SMITH_A | 2 down and 1 to go | Wed Mar 14 1990 13:47 | 10 |
| Not often I agree with Derek on BMW's but i would think a 518 would
be a bit of a slug.
wouldnt agree about a 318i being underpowered though, now i'm driving
around in a Golf 1800. (no not a GTi, obviously, but comparing standard
1800 with standard 1800)
Tony
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| 769.18 | | VOGON::ATWAL | Dreams, they complicate my life | Wed Mar 14 1990 13:54 | 6 |
| there used to be a 518
on the older version of the car
apparently this was dropped because of its naff performance
...art
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| 769.19 | | 49287::MATTHEWS | M+M Enterprises. Thats the CATCH | Wed Mar 14 1990 15:02 | 11 |
| I noticed at the weekend that the 318is is now available in the yUK, so
perhaps the 518 will have the same engine. It is supposed to be a nice
engine ... 16V, injected etc etc. The 318is has been rated on a par with
the current 325i in terms of performance.
The 318is was apparantly introduced in Italy because of the tax
advantage with a 1.8 engine.
Mark
BTW The old 518 was a real slug ...
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| 769.20 | 518 YUCK, the 525 is bad enough... | TLE::LEGERLOTZ | I came. I saw. I left. | Wed Mar 14 1990 15:40 | 6 |
| I would think that a 518 would perform about as well as a 318 with one of the
spark plug wires removed.
Buy a Fiesta 1.1 and save your money.
-Al
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| 769.21 | Yes Please to a 535i Sport ! | UBOHUB::VAUGHAN_F | Who Dares Wins...! | Thu Apr 19 1990 14:38 | 10 |
|
Agreed... 518 was indeed a non-performer. I read in AutoCar
that the new 518i will be a milti-valve engine and on par
with the 520i in terms of performance.
Even so.. the 520i is no performance car either !
Later.
-fv
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| 769.22 | Give me an M | MAJORS::GAMI | | Thu Apr 19 1990 18:56 | 17 |
| Later this year in September I have heard, that the 5 series engines
will be modified in the following way:
520i 12v ------> 520is 24 v (also true for new shape 320i)
525i 12v ------> 525is 24 v (also true for new shape 325i)
530i 12v ------> will be discontinued as 525is will have much more
power than exisiting 530i.
535i 12v ------> ????? dont know, may be only available in sport or
even M5 only.
I have also heard that the 7 series will be getting a brand new series
of V8 (+ exisiting V12) engines, to make them different from the 5 series
which has effected the sales of the 7 series, can any one expand ?
PS - I will be test driving the 318is this Saturday, can't wait.
Raj
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| 769.23 | All this and no fan | DOOZER::JENKINS | Road trip! | Thu Apr 19 1990 19:14 | 16 |
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re .last
Your comments about the 520i,525i and 530i are about right from
what I've read. And no new engines in the 3 series until the new
shape.
The 525i is, I think going to produce about 180bhp? which would
still leave room for the 535i.
The 518i was mentioned in a previous note (.-2?). This is not going
to be powered by the 318iS engine, but the older 318i (8 or 12valve?)
unit. It will though, be lowered geared making it a bit less sluggardly.
The review I read was quite favourable.
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| 769.24 | I heard a rumour. | TLE::LEGERLOTZ | I came. I saw. I left. | Thu Apr 19 1990 20:27 | 5 |
| I saw something about a 400 series BMW coming at about the same time as the
*new shape* 300 series. Anyone else heard about this?
-
Al
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| 769.25 | The 4-series will be a coupe. M4 derivative as well. | NZIRC5::EATON | Marketing - the rubber meets the sky | Thu Apr 19 1990 22:50 | 0 |
| 769.26 | 8 or 12 | MACNAS::BMULQUEEN | | Fri Apr 20 1990 09:47 | 7 |
| A few notes back, a 12V 5.20i was mentioned. Not being a BMW guru,
but isn't the 2.0 litre a 4-cylinder. At least it used to be about
5 years ago. Hence 5.20i 8V ---------------> 5.20i 16V
But don't quote me..
Billy
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| 769.27 | | PEKING::TAYLORG | Bodybuilders do it till it hurts | Fri Apr 20 1990 09:50 | 13 |
| re new engines and 518i
I read in Fast Lane that the performance figures for the 518i were
top speed 119mph 0-60mph 10.6sec (�16,450 and 132bhp) and the
performance figures for the 24v 'small sixes' are as follows
520i (150bhp)131mph 8ish seconds
525i (190bhp ?) 146mph 7ish seconds
these new engines are twin cam rather than the old engines single
cam. The current 3-series will not recieve these new engines.
Grant
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| 769.28 | | PEKING::TAYLORG | Bodybuilders do it till it hurts | Fri Apr 20 1990 10:06 | 8 |
| re-2
Fast Lane said the 520i was a 16valve but I am sure they are wrong
because the 520i it replaces was a 6 cylinder (same as in the 320i).
Confused!!!!
Grant
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| 769.29 | Smallets production 6 in the world | MALLET::STEPHENS | Never could get the hang of Thursdays | Fri Apr 20 1990 10:14 | 9 |
| Ref .-2
The 2.0 engine has been a 6 cyl for at least 6 years.
The power output of the 2.5 24valve is rated at 192 bhp (according to
the reports from the Geneva show).
regards
Jim
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| 769.30 | I could be wrong but... | MACNAS::BMULQUEEN | | Fri Apr 20 1990 11:51 | 4 |
| ...I remember when the smallest BMW 6 cylinder was the 323i while
the 320 was definitely a four.
Billy
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| 769.31 | You're not wrong in remmebering, it was just a long time ago.
| TLE::LEGERLOTZ | I came. I saw. I left. | Fri Apr 20 1990 15:28 | 7 |
| RE: last
The 2 litre engine was a four cylinder until 1983 (or maybe 1984), then the 1.8
took its place. I'm not sure when the 2 litre 6 cylinder came into being, but
the 2 litre 4 was retired.
-Al
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| 769.32 | 1974? | TPLAB::KENNEDY_C | The same old clich� | Fri Apr 20 1990 16:21 | 4 |
|
Who's not wrong? 1978 520 was a 6 cylinder. There was also a 318 at one
point with a 6 cylinder. As I remember, it was with the replacement of
the 2002 that we got the small sixes.
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| 769.33 | Noisy 318is | MAJORS::GAMI | | Mon Apr 23 1990 19:11 | 18 |
| I just test drove the 318is, for the second time this lunchtime, and
one thing I noticed on both the cars I have driven is a distinct noise
coming from the engine as you rev the engine up. It's like a
'winding'/'grinding' noise from the engine. I queried this and they
said it was either due the fact that the car was still running in or
that the 16V gear makes that noise. Both cars had around 1000 miles on them,
so they had'nt had the 1200 miles tune up done on them.
Questions: Does the 16V make that much difference to the engine noise?
Or is it due to the running in (past expierence anyone?)
Besides, that I thought the car was great, handling/suspension was
superb and it went very well aswell, even though it was still running
in, using a cat and unleaded fuel.
Raj (who will hopefully order one soon!)
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| 769.34 | A most unpleasant sound | MINDER::GILBERT | Systems Design & Eng Cntr @ MCO | Tue Apr 24 1990 22:45 | 5 |
| I noticed that graunchy noise from a G-reg 3-series recently - going by it
at 70(-ish!) on the M56. Can't confirm its valve count though.
Brian
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| 769.35 | Latest 3 Series ?? | UBOHUB::VAUGHAN_F | Who Dares Wins...! | Wed Aug 08 1990 14:54 | 18 |
|
I saw in a recent UK publication what is said to be pictures of
the new BMW 3 series. The pictures showed the 4-door model with
much softer curved lines compared with the current 5 series. I felt
that it looked both smooth and expensive (... so what's new ?)
The article claimed that the 318i and 325i will be the first
to be launched.
From a recent copy of AutoCar and Motor, they claim availability
will be Spring '91.
Has anyone else seen/read the reviews ??
Later.
-fv
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| 769.36 | Not particularly impressed. | SUBURB::PARKER | GISSAJOB | Wed Aug 08 1990 15:52 | 3 |
| I thought it looked like a Cavalier with a kidney grille.
Steve
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