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850.1 | | DPDMAI::HUDDLESTON | If it is to be, it's up to me | Thu Jan 12 1995 08:40 | 7 |
| Go to a pet store..they sell stuff that repels cats (makes them stay
away from the area), and odor treatments to get rid of the smell.
Please be kind. They don't know any better.
dlh
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850.2 | Please don't harm the poor thing... | BPSOF::EGYED | Per aspera ad astra | Fri Jan 13 1995 03:55 | 20 |
| I am from europe so I do not know the chemicals they have in the
States. I have read here a lot about Nature's miracle, it should be a
catpee-deodorizer. The suggestion in -1 is good, the local pet shop
shall know what to spray around to deodorze and what to keep the cat
away. BTW, spray, a waterspray bottle can be good to scare him away,
too.
The other side, please, do not do harm to the poor critter. Cats are
animals, and live they natural way which is not the ours. They cannot
learn human things. I know it's terrible to have cat urine smell
around. If there is no other way, trap him in a have-a-heart which you
take immediately to a local no-kill shelter then. Or try to find the
owners, if any. I am sure the other feliners here shall be able to help
you more - I am too fara away.
Or, is it impossible to KEEP him? Just a suggestion... cats are
wonderful. And if living with you, you can solve the odor problem.
Nat
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850.3 | help....JOJO is not eating and loosing weight | SNAX::SMITH | I FEEL THE NEED | Wed Aug 23 1995 08:31 | 56 |
| I need some help trying to figure out what's going on with JOJO.
JOJO, if you'll recall from some wayback posts, was a stray we were
feeding when we lived in a condo, and took her with us when we moved
into our house. She was out on her own from early spring through fall
when we moved so she was at least part ferral (sp?). It took some doing
to catch her.
You may recall that when I did manage to catch her and put her in a
carrier to take her home, she had a seisure "apparently" from being
"trapped". She had one other seisure after that after taking her to the
vets and hasn't had one since (more than 2 years now). Also, from a
previous note, JOJO was the one that, upon getting spooked by the
garage door opener, decided to bite the closest thing to her at the
time which happened to be my NOSE. You could have made her a set of
dentures from the impression she left. 8^)
Anyway, everything has been going along just fine for the last 3 years
and she was becomming more and more of a normal house cat. Every
morning she'd jump up on the bed looking for attention and loved back
rubs.
About 3 months ago, we noticed that she wasn't eating as much as she
used to. She'd come running out in the morning and night with the other
3 cats acting just as starved as the rest of them. But, she'd only eat
about half of what we put out and then leave. Also as time went on, her
activity level began to drop.
To make a long story short, she went from 10 and a quarter pounds last
fall, to 7.5 pounds now. She won't play anymore, and although she still
acts hungary when it dinner time, she only eats a few bites and stops.
We've looked for hairballs and given her copious amounts of laxetone
just in case but nothing comes up. We havn't noticed any loose stools
or anything else out of the ordinary other than her behavior.
We took her in to Central Animal Hospital Monday night and Dr. Buttler
(?) checked her over. A physical exam didn't point up anything unusual
meaning she couldn't feel any obstructions and heart and lungs sounded
normal. She took blood and ran a test for enemia while we were there.
That was normal. The results from the other blood work they sent out
for came back this morning and that was all normal. I'm waiting for a
call from her now, but I think she's going to suggest an ultra sound
next to look for other possible obstructions.
I'm just wondering if anyone else has gone through anything similar and
might have some ideas on what might be going on. She "obviously" can't
go on loosing weight like this.
I guess having all the blood work come back normal is the GOOD news,
but SOMETHING is wrong. We went through so much to bring her in (and I
have the NOSE to proove it) the thought of her having something
terribly wrong is killing us.
Thanks,
Steve
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850.4 | | TPSYS::GLADDING | | Wed Aug 23 1995 09:01 | 20 |
| Hi Steve,
Your situation sounds just like what I went through with my
Pretzel. Unfortunately, it turned out he had an obstruction
in his pancreas, and it turned out to be cancerous.
I don't want to scare you, though. Pretzel's blood tests showed
his liver enzymes were sky high, so it's probably a good sign
that JOJO's tests were normal.
An ultrasound and x-rays may show an obstruction - it may be
something he swallowed, or simply an inflammation of one of his
organs. A bacterial infection can cause an inflammation. Did
they do a CBC blood test? Infections should show up on a CBC.
Central Animal Hospital is wonderful, and they'll be diligent
to find out exactly what's going on. In the meantime, hang in
there. I'll be thinking about you and JOJO...
Pam
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850.5 | Thyroid? | HELIX::SKALTSIS | Deb | Wed Aug 23 1995 09:55 | 5 |
| Also, the bllod work doesn't include a thyroid profile. Ask for one
(it might run about $70, though). The cat could have an overactive
thyroid (easily treatable with very inexpensive medication).
Deb
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850.6 | Yes, that was checked. | SNAX::SMITH | I FEEL THE NEED | Wed Aug 23 1995 10:14 | 7 |
| Deb,
One of the possibilities discussed was a thyroid condition. They did
check for that. We were almost "wishing" that's what it was. Thanks.
Steve
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850.7 | Kidneys? | PCBUOA::FEHSKENS | len - reformed architect | Wed Aug 23 1995 11:59 | 7 |
|
Did the blood work check kidney function? Kidney failure is often
accompanied by these symptoms, but this is such an obvious candidate
I'd be amazed if they haven't already checked for it.
len.
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850.8 | | PADC::KOLLING | Karen | Wed Aug 23 1995 12:52 | 9 |
| Could her teeth be bothering her? Perhaps a visit (oh, joy) to
a vet specializing in dentistry or an xray sent to him or
her? Also, if she is drinking a great deal more water, that is
a sign of kidney problems or diabetes, but as Len says, it seems
very unlikely they haven't checked for that. please keep us informed
about what's happening, I am holding good thoughts for her,
Karen
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850.9 | | PADC::KOLLING | Karen | Wed Aug 23 1995 12:54 | 2 |
| Further thought, or some other problem with her mouth or throat?
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850.10 | All that's been covered so far | SNAX::SMITH | I FEEL THE NEED | Wed Aug 23 1995 13:08 | 29 |
| We were told that all of these things were being checked with the
blood work.
She's not drinking any more than usual. No less either which is good.
I heard back from Dr. Buttler and she wants to do a plain xray to see
if anything jumps out, and if not, an ulta sound. Dr. Moss also wants
to do another FELUK test with the extra blood sample they held back.
I'm REALLY hoping that's not it, and it seems unlikely as all of our
cats are indoor only and they've all been tested before. Doesn't mean
it can't happen, but I "think" it's unlikely.
Her teeth/mouth was looked at by Dr. Buttler and she didn't see
anything out of the ordinary, but I have noticed that JOJO sometimes
eats rather funny. She'll take a bite of food and turn her head way
over to the side while she chews. She'll do it to either side as
opposed to one side all the time. She also "seems" to drop alot of food
out of her mouth. Kind of like her jaw was weak. Still, she likes to
be scratched under the chin and around the side of her face so there
doess't appear to be any discomfort in the area. Don't know what
this could indicate if anything or if I'm just being paranoid. She's
going in for an xray tonight.
I'm still hoping, I guess, for a blockage of some sort. She's a fairly
long haired kitty and we've cought her with HUGE wads of fur in her
mouth. We have to chase her down to take it out, other wise, she eats
it. For the amount of hair she's probably eaten, we've found very few
hairballs. Time will tell I guess.
STeve
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850.11 | | PADC::KOLLING | Karen | Wed Aug 23 1995 13:53 | 4 |
| Hm. I'd still vote for a mouth xray. My Sweetie actually had a
nerve die in a tooth and I didn't realize it until the tooth
darkened. Neither did the vet.
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850.12 | Thanks for the replies | SNAX::SMITH | I FEEL THE NEED | Thu Aug 24 1995 05:51 | 22 |
| Unfortunately, the news is not good. We had xrays taken last night
and JOJO has a large mass in her intestines. In fact, you can't even
make out the outline of the intestines anymore. Just a huge mass that's
basically squeezing her intestines closed.
It's a cancerous tumor of some sort and she probably won't be around
much longer. We "are" calling Tufts today to see what they have to say
and will bring her in if they feel it's worth looking at. Depending on
what Tufts says, we may try treatment or not. Dr. Moss at CAH basically
told us to start thinking about setting a deadline for putting her
down. I think if she has a couple of weeks, that would be alot.
She's our little girl and we went through the most with her to save
her. At least I know that she would not have survived the winter had
we not taken her 3 years ago so she's had 3 good years she wouldn't
have had otherwise. Doesn't make it any easier and it's times like this
you wish you could talk with them to make them understand how much you
love them and wish you could make them better.
Thanks,
Steve
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850.13 | | USCTR1::MERRITT_S | Kitty City | Thu Aug 24 1995 06:04 | 21 |
| Steve,
Please call Tufts..... I had a similar situation with my
kitty Van Gogh and they saw a mass of something in the intestines
and my vet gave me little hope, but told me Tufts was my only
other choice.
Van Gogh was diagnosed with Megacolon....and the mass they
saw in the xray was just old poop that could not pass the
intestines. Dr Kalagher at Tufts did operate on him and
removed 80% of his small intestines. That was over three years
ago and Van Gogh is a very healthy kitty once again.
I don't want to give you false hope.....BUT everyone thought
Van gogh had a cancerous tumor..and it wasn't. Van gogh's story
(which is very long) is number 62 in this notesfile if you
would like to read more.
Paws and fingers crossed for you....
Sandy
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850.14 | Angel Memorial versus Tufts | SNAX::SMITH | I FEEL THE NEED | Thu Aug 24 1995 07:36 | 4 |
| Anyone have any opinions on Angel Memorial in Boston. Tufts can't
see JOJO till tomorrow, Angel will take her today.
Steve
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850.15 | | USCTR1::MERRITT_S | Kitty City | Thu Aug 24 1995 07:50 | 7 |
| Steve....I have no experience with Angel, but I have heard it
was a very good hospital as well. And...the vet that operated
on Van Gogh for his Megacolon; also spent part of his time at
Angel doing operations. As a matter of fact...last time I knew
he worked part time at both hospitals.
Sandy
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850.16 | Thanks | SNAX::SMITH | I FEEL THE NEED | Thu Aug 24 1995 08:43 | 5 |
| I'm leaaving now for home. Have a 12:40 appointment at Angel. I
hope there's one there (angel) 8^).
STeve
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850.17 | | HELIX::SKALTSIS | Deb | Thu Aug 24 1995 10:54 | 6 |
| Steve,
good luck. Friends of mine have had very good luck with Angell Memorial
as well.
Deb
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850.18 | | PADC::KOLLING | Karen | Thu Aug 24 1995 10:57 | 5 |
| My only experience with Angell(sp?) was when I took my parakeet
there - I was not pleased, they released the parakeet when he still
had pneumonia and he died shortly thereafter. Everything I have heard
about Tufts, however, is positive.
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850.19 | JOJO update | SNAX::SMITH | I FEEL THE NEED | Fri Aug 25 1995 05:40 | 41 |
| Well, I guess you could say we are cautiously optomistic.
We met with a Dr. Shapirro at Angel Memorial and he was great. Kept
calling JOJO "sweetie" every time he had to look at her.
He gave her a good going over and looked at the blood work results and
xrays we had brought with us. He took the xrays to the radiologist for
an expert opinion. He was able to rule out some things, but there were
still a bazillion other things that could be wrong and he went over
them all. We were not rushed and he answered any question we had.
His advise was to admit JOJO as she was also dehydrated and do an ultra
sound. That would more clearly show what was going on and what the next
step should be. He "did" say that she was a very sick little kitty and
without treatment only had a week or two left.
So, we left her there to get fluids and the ultra sound with the
promise that Dr. Shapirro would call us between 6 and 7. At 6:16, the
phone rang and it was the Doctor. He said JOJO was doing fine and was
responding well to the fluids. The ultra sound had been done and
although they still wern't exactly sure what the mass was, he WAS able
to rule out any kind of tumor. He also did a biopsy of sorts and
extracted some of the mass. The additional blood work they did, plus
the biopsy all point to a massive infection. At this point, he thinks
that there may be a absess associated with either the liver or spleen
or some sort of infection in the intestines that has either caused them
to wrap around themselves or slide over themselves. He called it
telescoping. It was all probably started by some sort of blockage and
mushroomed from there.
His next recommendation was surgery and he was very optomistic that
they could fix whatever was going on in there. There's still the
possibility that some kind of tumor caused the initial blockage but
still feels optomistic that even if that were the case, it could be
removed with no further complications. None of the test's they did
indicated any kind of cancer.
JOJO is scheduled for this morning and there will be a report ready by
about 10.
Steve
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850.20 | praying for a happy ending to this story ;-) | SALEM::SHAW | | Fri Aug 25 1995 05:56 | 5 |
|
Steve, that is good news. Fingers and paws crossed...prayers for
little Jojo ;-)
Shaw
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850.21 | | USCTR1::MERRITT_S | Kitty City | Fri Aug 25 1995 09:47 | 12 |
| Steve....it sure sounds like good news so far and my fingers
are still crossed for Jojo. PLEASE keep us posted.....
When Van Gogh was going through all the test...they kept
saying we don't believe it's a tumor or cancerous...but
we can't rule it out yet. Reading your story brings
back all the same memories I went through with Van Gogh.
Hopefully the end result will be the same.
Prayers to you and Jojo....
Sandy
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850.22 | Paws are crossed! | HELIX::SKALTSIS | Deb | Fri Aug 25 1995 09:55 | 7 |
| Steve,
I'm glad to hear the hopeful news. How did the surgery go?
Deb
P.S. Are you the Steve Smith I went to college with (Bentley D'77)?
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850.23 | Last JOJO update | SNAX::SMITH | I FEEL THE NEED | Fri Aug 25 1995 10:09 | 18 |
| The surgery is over and JOJO is not good. Actually, no real surgery
even took place. Once they opened her up and got to look around, they
found that the mass WAS a tumor and had done alot of damage. In fact,
Dr. Shapirro called while JOJO was still on the table wanting to know
if we wanted to have her put to sleep then and there. They just closed
her back up without doing anything.
Dr. Shapirro had said repeatedly that if they could get JOJO even 2 or
3 months of "normal" living, that was worth going for. So, for him to
ask if we wanted to put her down while she was still on the table, I
have no doubt there's nothing that could be done.
We will be going in tonight to say our goodbyes.
Thanks for everyone good thoughts.
Steve
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850.24 | | HELIX::SKALTSIS | Deb | Fri Aug 25 1995 10:38 | 3 |
| I'm so sorry.
Deb
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850.25 | so sorry | SALEM::SHAW | | Fri Aug 25 1995 10:58 | 5 |
|
I am so sorry for you Jojo and the family. You did everything possible
and Jojo is lucky to have such a caring family.
Shaw
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850.26 | so very sorry | NRSTAR::BACHELDER | | Fri Aug 25 1995 11:05 | 4 |
| my heart weeps for you.
- Lauri
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850.27 | | USCTR1::MERRITT_S | Kitty City | Fri Aug 25 1995 11:23 | 10 |
| Steve...so sorry to hear the news was not good. My
heart is with you.
Atleast in your heart you know you did everything
possible to find out what the problem was...and
little Jojo knew that.
Hugs to you...
Sandy
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850.28 | so sorry... | TPSYS::GLADDING | | Fri Aug 25 1995 11:27 | 12 |
| Steve,
I'm so sorry things turned out that way. Believe me, I know what
you're going through - I just went through the same thing with
my Pretzel, and it's never easy. Know that you did all you could
for JOJO.
If you need to talk, call me (DTN 227-3890, home 508-345-0877)
My sympathies to you and your family.
Pam
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850.29 | | PADC::KOLLING | Karen | Fri Aug 25 1995 11:40 | 4 |
| I'm very sorry,
Karen
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850.30 | I swear to GOD....I'm going to scream | SNAX::SMITH | I FEEL THE NEED | Fri Aug 25 1995 12:11 | 27 |
| I don't know whether to be angry, glad, hopeful, not hopful or what.
I can't take the emotional rollercoaster.
First off, I thank everyone for their thoughts. I've been pretty much
a read only noter of Felines for a long time now, and I've sat at my
desk and cried reading past notes. Thank God I have allergies. At least
I can say I'm having a bad allergy day. 8^)
We got another call from Dr. Shapirro. It seems that the surgeon went
ahead and did some more exploring while Dr. Shapirro was making the
first phone call and found a very bad puss filled obstruction in her
intestines. He was able to drain and clean it all out and she now has
a totally clear intestinal tract. We're still not clear on what the
hell the mass is, but he's doing a proper biopsy and some more tests,
including FIP, the results of which will be back in the morning. We have
a phone call into him for some clarifications.
At any rate, he says that JOJO is already up and around after the
surgery and she's fighting like hell to live. So tonight, we'll be
going to VISIT and will just have to wait till tomorrow to see what the
results of the last test's are.
Everyone's support is very much appreciated. I feel so bad about writing
that last note now.
Steve
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850.31 | | USCTR1::MERRITT_S | Kitty City | Fri Aug 25 1995 12:43 | 8 |
| Oh Steve...Scream all you want...Cry all you want...just keep
praying for your little baby who seems to have a will to survive.
I was on an emotional rollercoaster for atleast 4 months with
Van Gogh...I thought it would kill me. It was hell...but in the
end it was well worth it.
PLEASE keep us posted......Sandy
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850.32 | | PADC::KOLLING | Karen | Fri Aug 25 1995 12:47 | 5 |
| Don't worry about what you post, we really want to know
what's going on. I'm glad that they found something that they
could fix. Do I understand that the intestines are clear now
but the mass is still in place? Or did they take the mass out?
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850.33 | | POWDML::HANGGELI | Petite Chambre des Maudites | Fri Aug 25 1995 13:14 | 4 |
|
Please keep us updated, Steve. I hope the biopsy shows it's something
minor.
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850.34 | Not sure about the mass | SNAX::SMITH | I FEEL THE NEED | Fri Aug 25 1995 13:15 | 36 |
| That's one of the things were not clear on. Yes the intestines are
now clear, but I'm not sure if they did anything with the mass.
My impression from the phone call last night when the doctor said he
took a sample of the mass after the ultrasound, was that all he got
was puss (for lack of a better word). So "my" impression was that the
mass was or was something like a big puss sack. That's why I'm not
clear on why they couldn't remove/drain that. IF it's still there.
It was during the first phone call this afternoon that he said they
were going to do a biopsy and then the surgeon went ahead with doing his
stuff after that. So when he said the surgeon was able to find more
stuff and DRAIN it, I'm not sure if that included the mass.
Anyway, that's why we have another phone call into him and we'll talk
with him when we go in tonight anyway. The Doctor is back to saying
she's fighting a MASSIVE infection and she "could" still die from it
so things are still iffy.
He's been talking with my wife so I'm kind of getting this second hand
but one of the things I heard was that they were affraid to cut open
the mass for fear it could dump "stuff" all over the place at which
point, things would be tatally out of control. If their thinking that
the mass is infection related, they may be hoping to reduce/eleminate
it by treating the infection. Then there's always the FIP test were
waiting for.
Dr. Shapirro keeps calling her a beautiful cat and doesn't
want to give up. He mentioned last night that she likes to have her
rump scratched and was purring for him so I know he's spending time
with her.
Anyway, we're back to a little bit of hope and we'll just have to wait
and see what happens next.
Steve
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850.35 | | TPSYS::GLADDING | | Fri Aug 25 1995 13:38 | 8 |
| Steve,
We're all thinking about Jojo and hoping for the best. Keeping
our fingers (and paws) crossed.
Please keep us posted and best wishes.
Pam
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850.36 | | JULIET::CORDES_JA | Eight Tigers on My Couch | Fri Aug 25 1995 15:30 | 8 |
| Hang in there. This may still turn out okay. JoJo is a fighter
and she's not ready to give up yet. Please do keep us posted.
Me and mine have all fingers and paws crossed for JoJo's complete
recovery.
Jan (and Amelia, Carrie, Onyx, MacGuyver, Dolly, Ashlar, Joey, Torbie)
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850.37 | As of Friday evening | SNAX::SMITH | I FEEL THE NEED | Sat Aug 26 1995 06:44 | 85 |
| I should probably wait to write more as by the time everyone get's back
to work, I'll know alot more, but I guess I'll keep the sequence of
events in order.
We did get a call back from the doctor Friday afternoon with some more
information, but we also went in to see JOJO and talk with him Friday
evening so I'll pick it up from there.
As I said in a previous note, the surgeon persisted (bless him) and
ended up "removing" the mass or most of it anyway. She now has a
totally clear intestinal tract and probably 90+% or the mass is gone.
The mass was kind of "attached" to part of the colon, but was not
(at this time) through the colon wall. There was a thickening of the
colon wall in the area in contact with the mass which could be from any
number of different things. The surgeon removed all of the mass he
could without touching or removing any part of the colon.
Things are still very complicated in that there are still alot of
unknowns. When the surgeon first looked at the mass, his first
impression was that it was a tumor. He looked at it somemore and still
thought it was a tumor. In short, Dr. Shapirro said that the surgeons
1st, 2nd, AND 3RD impressions was that it was a tumor. Still, something
kept him poking around and he ended up making the decision to remove
it.
This is a strange case in that the "mass", not really being connected
to any particular organ, was just kind of sitting in the abdominal
cavity. The abdominal cavity is basically nothing more than an open
space to hold the internal organs. In other words, appart from the
organs, the abdominal cavity is just empty space. So, how does a tumor
or infection start in thin air. Dr. Shapirro speculates that where the
mass was laying against part of the colon, and where there was a
thickening of the colon wall right in that area, that there may, at one
time, have been a puncture in the colon. How????? who knows. She could
have swallowed a sharp object etc. The puncture could have allowed
material in the colon to seep out into the abdominal cavity and either
form some sort of cancerous tumor, or raging infection. Then over time,
the puncture healed itself leaving the mass basically by itself. Again,
this is all speculation.
What is the mass......Well at this point, no one knows. To the surgeons
eye, the mass was made up of a fiberous material with a soft infections
center. All the tests so far point to infection. The lymph nodes around
the "mass" were all swollen but a test of the lymph nodes showed that
they were in "reactive" mode. In other words, they were swollen because
they were working TRIPLE time fighting the infection, as opposed to
being infected themselves. Would an infection cause a mass like the one
the surgeon found. Yes it would. The bodies natural immune system would
attack the infection and basically surround it trying to kill it and at
the same time isolate it from the rest of the body. The problem is, it
could also be an "old" tumor.
A tumor is also a fiberous mass with some sort of nucleous. If it was a
tumor and had been "cut off" from it's blood supply (food supply), it
would begin to die or rot. When that happens to a tumor, it begins to
rot from the inside out. So would an old tumor that had begun to rot
and basically transformed itself into an infection look like what the
surgeon found. Yes also.
So, to make a long story short (or shorter), there's no way of telling
at this point if the mass is JUST infection related, or if at some
point in the past, it was a tumor.
They took this "mass" to pathology and will do a proper section and
biopsy. This "should" tell them what it is/was. This we will know
sometime Saturday afternoon.
Regardless of the outcome, the problem now is that JOJO is so weak. It
was so sad to see her last night. She could barely hold her head up.
Of course she was still recovering from the anesthesia (sp?) and going
through major surgery but it was sad. I think from this point on, it's
going to be a day to day thing. The test results could come back saying
that it's "just" a bacterial infection which, under normal
circumstances is PERFECTLY curable. However JOJO may be so weak at this
point that she can't recover. Even if the test's came back showing she
had a lymphoma (again sp?) which normally responds well to treatment,
she may be at a point now where the "cure" would just be too much for
her body to take.
At this point, we're taking it day by day and hoping for the best. I'll
be in the office again Tuesday and will update then.
Again, thanks for everyones thoughts and prayers.
Steve
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850.38 | | TAPE::FEASE | Andrea Midtmoen Fease | Mon Aug 28 1995 07:29 | 4 |
| Our prayers and thoughts are with you, your wife and JoJo ...
- Andrea
Bigfoot, Loki & Midnight
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850.39 | Paws are crossed | HELIX::SKALTSIS | Deb | Mon Aug 28 1995 08:19 | 4 |
| I hope for the best for little JoJo. I have a feeling that she will
pull through.
Deb and The FIRM
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850.40 | All Our Love Goes Out to You | PCBUOA::FEHSKENS | len - reformed architect | Mon Aug 28 1995 08:34 | 13 |
|
I always feel so helpless in situations like this, when all I can say
is "we're all pulling for you and your little one", or share stories
about how my own pulled through medical crises that seemed hopeless.
I have a beautiful book titled "The Noble Cat", and it's a perfect
description of these animals, who often have a will to live that's
beyond our understanding.
Waiting anxiously for the latest news,
len (for Rocky, Robin, Blueberry, Floyd and the ancient Merlin).
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850.41 | | PADC::KOLLING | Karen | Mon Aug 28 1995 11:57 | 7 |
| I'm hoping for JoJo also. I know when I've picked my kitties
up from times when they've been anesthesized and the operation
was done late in the day, they seemed very weak also, but it
was because the anesthesia was still partly in effect,
Karen
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850.42 | | KAMALA::DREYER | More great memories | Mon Aug 28 1995 15:30 | 9 |
| Steve,
I'm sitting here with tears welling up in my eyes after reading
what JoJo and your family are going through, I'll also be sending
lots of positive energy out for her.
Good luck.
Laura
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850.43 | GOOD JOJO update | SNAX::SMITH | I FEEL THE NEED | Tue Aug 29 1995 06:02 | 50 |
| I "almost" hate to say this for fear I'll jinx everything, but the
truth is, JOJO appears to be emerging from the woods. We've had updates
all weekend long and yesterday and I was tempted each time to add a
note, but didn't want to take a chance the news might change.
The pathology report on the mass and all remaining tests are in. The
results are..............
NO CANCER OF ANY KIND WHATSOEVER
The mass was TOTALLY infection related and as best as anyone can tell
was also totally isolated and did not affect any other organs.
She's still on fluids and getting massive antibiotics twice a day but
each day she's a little more perky. During Saturday and Sunday, her
blood count kept dropping (red blood cells) and she was nearing the
point where she might need a transfusion. The drop was expected due to
the amount of fluids she needed, but they were hoping it would
stabalize at some point. As of Monday, her blood count DID stabalize
and started going back up. Also, during the weekend, the doctors were
expressing concern that she had not started eating yet. Considering how
sick she was when we brought her in and everything she went through,
"I" think they were being a little overly optimistic. Still, they
started adding more nutrients to her intravenous. Again, as of
yesterday, she's starting eating on her own. Not much, but a little
anyway. She will need to stay on antibiotics fairly long term but the
only thing the doctor is looking for now is for realitively normal
eating and litter box habits to return. He even mentioned (dare I say
it) she might be able to come home this Thursday or Friday !!!!!!!!!!!!
There "is" some humor in all of this because JOJO is TOTALLY TICKED OFF
at having to be there. You can actually see it in her face and she
hisses whenever the people come to clean her up. She doesn't
want to be there, but if she has to, she doesn't want to be disturbed
while she is. I say.........that's my girl. Keep the juices flowing.
Hiss away and you'll be home before you know it.
I'm still not letting myself celebrate yet and won't until the day we
bring her home, but things are looking up. You know, when I posted the
note that we were bringing her to Angel Memorial, I added that I hoped
there would be one there (an angel). Then I think about the surgeon
just "knowing" in his mind that what he was looking at was a tumor and
that she probably shouldn't even be woken up. Yet, something kept him
looking and poking and investigating. Something led him to discover the
infectious blockage which he could remove, and something made him go
ahead and remove the mass even though he thought it would do no good.
Something made him not give up and because he didn't, it looks like
JOJO will be coming home. Thank God for ANGELS.
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850.44 | Alright Jojo! | SALEM::SHAW | | Tue Aug 29 1995 06:07 | 5 |
|
That is great news ;-) we have all been waiting to hear.
Shaw
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850.45 | She is going to make it! | HELIX::SKALTSIS | Deb | Tue Aug 29 1995 06:56 | 11 |
| I'm so glad to hear that she is feeling better!
Steve, when my cats have been in the hospital, I've brought a kitty bed
in for them to curl up in. I'm referring to the fuzzy round things that
the cats love to curl up in. If she has one, bringing it it might make
her feel a little more comfy. Also, a small stuffed toy to cuddle with
is also seems to be something that they appreciate. (usually the animal
hospitals have no problem letting you bring these "comfort" items in
for the cat. It sort of herls their recovery.
Deb
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850.46 | | TPSYS::GLADDING | | Tue Aug 29 1995 07:05 | 4 |
| Steve - that's WONDERFUL news!! I'm so happy for you and Jojo.
We'll continue to pray for her full recovery.
Pam
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850.47 | | POWDML::HANGGELI | Petite Chambre des Maudites | Tue Aug 29 1995 08:02 | 11 |
|
Yes, this is fantastic! Hope all continues to go well for you & JoJo.
I have found that an item of my clothing, recently worn, tends to
comfort the bebbes when they're away from home.
Of course, I have also found that sleeping on my clean laundry comforts
them no matter where they are, but that's neither here nor there 8^).
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850.48 | | PADC::KOLLING | Karen | Tue Aug 29 1995 11:21 | 3 |
| Maybe the vet would okay special food treats for her? Swanson
chicken (packed in water, not oil) is a big fav with mine.
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850.49 | | USCTR1::MERRITT_S | Kitty City | Tue Aug 29 1995 11:39 | 4 |
| Great news.....somebody up there was watching over Jojo!!!
Please keep us posted...and our prayers are still with her.
Sandy (who has a sister with a kitty named Jojo too!!)
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850.50 | | TAPE::FEASE | Andrea Midtmoen Fease | Wed Aug 30 1995 08:11 | 4 |
| At a girl, JoJo, keep up the good work!!
- Andrea
Bigfoot, Loki & Midnight
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850.51 | | MPGS::WOOLNER | Your dinner is in the supermarket | Wed Aug 30 1995 09:43 | 9 |
| YES!!
Yesyesyesyes! I too am so excited that JOJO is on the mend (and
annoyed at her accommodations). And I loved your spoiler in front of
the "no cancer of any kind" headline--I could almost hear the drum
roll!
Hoping for a fast, easy recovery,
Leslie
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850.52 | Latest news | SNAX::SMITH | I FEEL THE NEED | Thu Aug 31 1995 12:39 | 25 |
| Well, it's been a couple of more days under the bridge. JoJo was
taken off of all intrevenous feeding Tuesday. She's using the litter
box, and eating "a little". Everyone feels she's just very nervous
at this point with all the other animals making noise around her and
she will pick up eating when she's back in her environment. She was
purring and affectionate and strutting her stuff and almost jumped
out of the cage when my wife went in to see her at noon time yesterday.
We're going in tonight and..................
BRINGING HER HOME
It's almost hard to believe that she was so close to death exactly one
week ago. It's hard to believe we came so close to putting her down at
least 3 times and now she's a happy kitty again. ALOT SKINNIER...but
happy. 8^)
Our VERY heart felt thanks go out to everyone that stayed with us
through this. Your support was VERY important and your encouragment
has alot to do with JOJO coming home.
THANK YOU ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve
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850.53 | Always Love Good News About Cats | PCBUOA::FEHSKENS | len - reformed architect | Thu Aug 31 1995 12:56 | 8 |
|
Congratulations!
I guess it's experiences like this that gave rise to the notion that
cats have "nine lives".
len.
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850.54 | | USCTR1::MERRITT_S | Kitty City | Thu Aug 31 1995 14:04 | 7 |
| Great news..... JoJo wanted to live and you gave her that
chance. I hate to see your bill.....but I'm sure it's worth
every penny!!!!!!
Please continue to keep us posted.......I love JoJo updates!!
Sandy
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850.55 | She's home | SNAX::SMITH | I FEEL THE NEED | Fri Sep 01 1995 05:33 | 56 |
| Re. I hate to see your bill...........
It was more than having the HOUSE PAINTED. But your right. It was worth
EVERY PENNY.
We got to the hospital about 6:30 last night. Got the paper work taken
care of and someone went and got JOJO. When she came out, she had this
look on her face like WHAT NOW..........but we sat down with her for
awhile, got her medication, and went to the car. It was about an hours
ride home and she was perfectly calm. Usually she hates the car because
she knows it means a ride to the vets. Last night, however, she was a
perfect lap cat. Dozed off a couple of times, streached out, did some
head butts for attention, and generally just enjoyed the ride.
We brought her into the house and the other 3 kids all came to say hi.
Gizzmo was the only one that didn't seem to pleased she was back.
Gizzmo was the only female for some time before we got JOJO. They don't
fight, but Gizzmo kind of feels like her place as "women of the house"
in threatened. She gave JOJO a look like "oh great. Your back". 8^)
After a few minutes we let her roam free and she went to every room of
the house just to make sure things were like she left them. When she
was satisfied they were, she found a quiet place to sack out for
a couple of hours. Poor thing probably hasn't gotten much sleep in the
last week. Just before we went to bed, we wanted to see if she'd eat
anything and tried giving her some nice fresh chicken that they usually
get as a treat. She turned her nose up at it. Once of the critical
things is that she starts eating again so when she did this, you kind
of get that tightening in your stomach like maybe she won't. But, you
also realize that it's still early and tomorrow is another day.
When the alarm went off this morning and I got up, she was right there
with the rest of them waiting for breakfast. She always did that when
she was sick though, and would just eat a couple of bits and walk away.
NOT THIS MORNING.................she pigged out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Usually, Tigger and Gizzmo eat together out of one of those double
dishes, and Orphy (short for Orphan which he was when we got him)
eats to their right. JOJO's dish is kind of behind them. I usually put
Tigger, Gizzmo and Orphy's dishes down and then JOJO's. Well Orphy was
right there at his dish and he weighs about 20 pounds, so no one
bothered him. When I put the other dish down however, JOJO made a bee
line for it and started chowing down. Poor Tigger and Gizzmo couldn't
get near it. If one of them walked up to the side she wasn't using,
JOJO would switch sides. If they went to the side she had just vacated,
she'd switch back. They were looking at me like WHAT GIVES. Do we get
to eat or what. I finally got everyone situated.
That scene was so funny this morning though it cracked me up. All I
could picture was an old pirate movie where this grizzled old pirate is
kneeling over a treasure chest running his fingers through mounds of
dubloons chortling HarHarhar.....it's MINE.....ALL mine.
So, so far so good. She's on antibotic twice a day for 2 weeks and
that's it I guess. I think in a week, we'll make an appointment to have
her staples out.
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850.56 | Great news! | SALEM::SHAW | | Fri Sep 01 1995 05:59 | 6 |
|
Well Steve, I am so happy for you and your family. This news
certainly made my day ;-) Sounds like she's going to be just
fine.
Shaw
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850.57 | | HELIX::SKALTSIS | Deb | Fri Sep 01 1995 06:49 | 3 |
| I'm so happy to hear this!
Deb and THE FIRM
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850.58 | | TAPE::FEASE | Andrea Midtmoen Fease | Fri Sep 01 1995 06:57 | 5 |
| This is *wonderful* news, Steve. Enjoy the long weekend with your
"kids" and give JoJo a big hug!
- Andrea
Bigfoot, Loki & Midnight
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850.59 | | SHRCTR::DJANCAITIS | only1thingkeepingmehere | Fri Sep 01 1995 09:11 | 8 |
| WONDERFUL news, Steve - I've been holding my breath and keeping my
fingers crossed - I *really* didn't want another entry for the SLM
listing !!!!!!!!!!
Best of luck for continued progress with JoJO
Debbi J, Peant, Patches, Missy, Cuddles
& the canines Cocoa and Kain too !!!!
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850.60 | | PADC::KOLLING | Karen | Fri Sep 01 1995 11:18 | 4 |
| Such great news,
Karen
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850.61 | JoJO "was" on the roller coaster again | SNAX::SMITH | I FEEL THE NEED | Wed Sep 20 1995 06:37 | 119 |
| JoJo went for another roller coaster ride over the last 4 days but
hopefully is done now.
Last Thursday, we had her into the vet to remove the last of her
staples. Everything was fine. Friday morning, she was waiting for
breakfast with the rest of them and pigged out the way she has been
for the last 3 weeks. Everything has been progressing very well. Friday
evening, when supper time came, she again ate well, but vomited about
a half hour later. There was 3 quick sessions. The middle one was a
good sized hair ball, so I didn't think anything of it.
About 2 hours later it was time for her medication (clavimox) which she
grudging took. About a half hour later, she vomited again and had 2
more sessions after that. She was obviously not feeling well. For the
rest of the night and most of Saturday morning she was not herself and
had no interest in food or water what so ever. We brought her into the
vet Saturday afternoon. Dr. Butler did a real intense exam but couldn't
feel anything. She decided to take an xray. When they brought JoJo back
out, she kind of looked at us a little strangely and said, how long has
she been this yellow?????????????
Yellow????????? what ARE you talking about. She showed us her still
shaved belly from the surgery and we almost fell over. I've never seen
an animal that yellow. We all talked for awhile about the possibilities
but one thing was for sure. You don't get jaundiced like that unless
there's liver problems. We went right from the vet to Angel Memorial.
Dr. Butler was nice enough to call ahead and let them know we were
coming.
She was given another exam and admitted. They would have to do tests to
try and determine what was going on. They kept her stable in ICU for
the night, and Sunday morning, Dr. Shapiro (her original doctor) took
over the case. We talked to him about 10 Sunday morning, but he
couldn't say much without the test results. They were expected back
around 2.
With all of this going on, my wife was heading out on a business trip
to Colorado Springs Sunday afternoon. We gave Dr. Shapiro the cell
phone number and he said he'd call us. On the way to the airport, he
did. The initial tests showed that her blood count was down again, and
her biliruben count was sky high. It's supposed to be around .05 and
JoJo's was 19. This is was was effecting the liver. Actually, it's more
correct to say that the liver was being over powered by the high
biliruben count so all of the toxins the liver normally processes were
backing up so to speak. Again, all he could do was speculate at this
point, but possible causes were a liver infection, fatty liver
syndrome, a lymphoma of some kind and hemobartinella (a blood
paracite). He had a whole bunch of tests scheduled and we would have to
wait.
On the way to the airport, we ran into MASSIVE traffic and missed the
flight. What the heck, everything might as well go wrong all at the
same time. 8^) There were no other flights out that evening so my wife
had to reschedule for the next morning. She now had an 8:15 A.M.
flight, we live an hour and 15 minutes from the airport, we wanted to
make sure we got there early enough, so we were up at 4 A.M. Monday
morning. But I'm getting ahead of myself.
We talked again with Dr. Shapiro Sunday night and JoJo's blood count
had begun to plumit. It was so low and was dropping so quickly, they
gave her a transfusion. They still weren't sure what was going on. None
of the tests they were doing was pointing to any one thing. Probably
because of this, Dr. Shapiro was leaning towards hemobartinella as a
possible cause of JoJo's current problems.
As I understand it, there are "no" tests that can point up the
existance of the blood parasite. There not even sure how it get's
passed from one animal to another other than through direct blood
contact. They do speculate, however, that if an outdoor cat get's into
a lot of fights, it can be passed through the saliva. Once we heard
this, we remembered that while JoJo was still living wild, we did
manage to treat her for what appeared to be a bite.
So now it's Monday morning and her blood count has stabalized in the
hight 20's. 30 something is normal. They've got her on a specific
medication for hemobartinella and everything seems to be fine. Monday
afternoon, her count starts to drop again. The doctor feels it's partly
because she's on nothing but fluids which acts to dilute the blood and
he still feels hemobartinella is at work. He started her on Prednisone
along with the Penamycin and her blood count stabalized again.
When I went into visit JoJo Monday noon time, she looked so pitifull.
Because they had to do constant monitoring of her blood and she was on
constant intravenus fluids, she was all hooked up to tubes, etc. I
guess she also got pretty fed up with all of the poking and proding so
she had to wear one of those cone shaped collars. She didn't like that
at all, and I took it off while I visited. Surprisingly, she let me put
it back on without a fight when I had to leave.
So now with the Prednisone and Penamycin, her blood count stabalized
again. It stayed stable throughout the rest of the day Monday and all
of Tuesday morning.
Dr. Shapiro did one other test called a coombs (sp?) test. The results
of this test pretty much confirmed what the doctor had suspected. She
had hemobartinella, a blood parasite. Apparently, cats can be infected
and the parasites lay dormant until a time when the immune system get's
stressed. Like her massive infection and surgery. Then, all of a
sudden, it can raise it's ugly head. What happens is the parasites
actually attach themselves to the red blood cells. The body's response
is to create antibodies against the parasite, but because it's attached
to the blood cells, the antibodies kill the red blood cells. So
basically her own immune systems was destroying her own blood.
This appears to be under control now and she will stay on medication
for another 3 weeks. She was feeling much better coming home from the
hospital this time although VERY tired. She just doesn't get any rest
there. She slept most of the way home. She also refuses to eat there
but after being home for about an hour, she started eating and
drinking. This morning, she ate well, and used the litter box.
So, another episode is over and she's doing well once again. She has
CERTAINLY been one for the record books at Angel with her highly
unusual problems and Dr. Shaprio has been just wonderful.
He wasn't "supposed" to take the case this time, as some other doctor
had admitted her. We requested him however, and he said that he's
already gotten attached to JoJo and no other doctor could drag her away
from him. What a guy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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850.62 | | HELIX::SKALTSIS | Deb | Wed Sep 20 1995 07:20 | 3 |
| Steve, note 251.0 has a good discriptin of haemobartonella.
Deb
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850.63 | | PADC::KOLLING | Karen | Wed Sep 20 1995 08:49 | 2 |
| Holy cow, a major pat on the head for everyone.
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850.64 | | CPDW::REILLY | | Wed Sep 20 1995 15:46 | 14 |
| Hi Steve,
Question - is JoJo FeLV negative? Primary Hemobartinellosis is very
rare without an underlying problem. On the good side tho - many things
can cause immune related anemias like it sounds like JoJo had &
Hemobart is very often mistakenly diagnosed by even the best vets.
Also, on a good note, animals who come thru immune mediated hemolytic
anemias like JoJo had (as indicated by the positive Coomb's test) very
rarely have repeat occurences. So, congrats once again to your kitty's
fighting spirit and your great willingness to give her a fighting
chance!
Regards,
liz
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850.65 | Yup, she's been tested | SNAX::SMITH | I FEEL THE NEED | Fri Sep 22 1995 07:20 | 16 |
| Hi Liz,
Yes, she's FeLV negative. It's been checked several times in the
last month because of all the things that have been going on. In fact,
I insisted on it last week because of the symptoms.
So far, she's holding her own, is eating and drinking, and using the
litter box. She HATES taking her medication, espically the pill but
she'll have to live with it. (or have it to live as the case may be)
She's by no means out of the woods and follow up blood work will be
done this coming Monday and again the Monday following. But we remain
hopeful. What else can we do.
Steve
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850.66 | | HELIX::SKALTSIS | Deb | Fri Sep 22 1995 09:04 | 6 |
| Steve, coat the pill with a little butter. While JoJo still might not
look forward to taking it, the butter will prevent it from desolving
before swollowing and causing an awful taste in the mouth.
good luck,
Deb
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850.67 | Thanks for the tip | SNAX::SMITH | I FEEL THE NEED | Fri Sep 22 1995 10:03 | 11 |
| Thanks Deb, I'll try it. Whatever problems JoJo may have, she's NOT
dumb. I got to do the "slip it in the food" trick once. Then she cought
on. I got to do the "break it all up and mix with food" trick once.
Even though it's a chore, I still have to chuckle when she just sits
there with the pill in her mouth calmly looking at you while you hold
her mouth. Then when you think she must have swallowed it and let go,
she spits it out in a nano second.
Still, after I finally let her go, she comes right back for head butts
and scratching so she's not mad at me yet. 8^)
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850.68 | | USCTR1::MERRITT_S | Kitty City | Fri Sep 22 1995 10:28 | 6 |
| Try the surprise attack!!! You wait until they are sleeping
peacefully....and then you go give them a hug and pop the
pill!!!! I have to do this with Capone who hates to be
pilled!!!
Sandy
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850.69 | Stroke that throat | HYDRA::WHITMORE | | Fri Sep 22 1995 14:43 | 8 |
| Also try stroking their throat if kitty is just holding that thing in
their mouth.
Of course, mine will even pretend to swallow, calmly walk away, accept
a treat for being such a good kitty, and then spit the pill out. He is
a professional.
-Dana
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850.70 | | POWDML::VENTURA | Bad spellers of the world, UNTIE!! | Mon Sep 25 1995 10:12 | 10 |
| One thing that i've found works 80% of the time is after you put the
pill into the cats mouth, gently and quickly blow on their face. 80%
of the time, it causes an automatic swallowing reaction.
At least it works for my cats.
Holly (who's been so busy that she hasn't had ANY chance to get in
here)
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850.71 | Quick JoJo update | SNAX::SMITH | I FEEL THE NEED | Mon Sep 25 1995 16:55 | 8 |
| Just a quick update. When JoJo came home this last time, her blood
count was 22% and her bilirubin level was 8.5.
We had her tested Saturday and her blood count is now 37%. The test
hasn't come back for the Bilirubin yet, but the yellow is beginning
to fade. Should have that result tomorrow.
So far, so good.
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