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    Gina, thanks for taking this on.  I ordered about 8 classical CDs
    from Noteworthy then stopped, both for lack of selection and lack
    of ability to determine what I was buying (I already knew for the
    few that I ordered).
    
    I don't have any suggestions for format, but (ignoring MHS selections)
    my classical collection consists 90% of the following lables, in
    order, so that's what I'd like to see them stock for classical:
    
    1) Archiv
    2) CBS
    3) L'oiseau-Lyre
    4) RCA
    5) Telarc
    
    Thanks again for doing this,
    B
    

    This morning I again spoke to the owner of NOTEWORTHY.  He was glad
    to have the feedback I gave him (thanks Bruce!).  They are beginning
    to address this issue.
    
    He will be putting out a new edition of their catalog on July 25th.
    I sure hope some changes show up in the next release of their catalog.
    
    
    Thanks,
    
    Gina
    
    
                                            

The last time I ordered discs from Noteworthy (in May) I had the same problem.
When I called in the order I talked to the woman who took the order about
this problem...

I suggested a couple things:

1.  Rather than having the entire catalog sorted by artist? set up catagories
to separate classical from jazz from rock.

2.  Provide specific information about the actual label, number, artist, etc
about the classical.  Even better would be the above plus a list of selections
but I know space is limited.  Given the composer, label, artist, and number
we could check out the selections.


She also sounded very happy to receive feedback and told me she would pass my
comments on to the owner.

BTW:  I also mentioned these notesfiles and she sounded very interested
and pleased.

hopefully we'll get a better catalog and order more discs,

D

    My solution is to do my window shopping at the local
    Tower/Strawberries/Whatever, note the # of the disc I want and then
    order it (if it's available). 
    
    I hope that a better catalog is forthcoming for you folks, I'm just a
    little concerned.  It seems that Noteworthy is catering more and more
    to the individual consumer -- They accept credit card orders now which
    I believe means they pay a fee to the bank, and now indications are
    they are going to spend some time re-working their catalog.  The point
    is: all of this is costing money and I'm afraid we're the ones that are
    going to pay for it in the end.   This is probably not too big a
    concern but the trend (if there is one yet) is disturbing.  I don't
    need or want a "Tower Records by mail". 
    
    On a side note, their last catalog indicates that they have greatly
    increased their mailing list due to "word of mouth".  I wonder how
    much of that was really "word of notes"?
    
    						- Keith F.
                                  

    
    	I called thier toll free 800 number for a catalog and recieved
    it within 2 days. I hope there CD service is that fast. Looks to
    have pretty comptitive prices in the catalog. Thanks for the info...
    
    Darren
    

    For classical entries, I have found that I have to scan the entire
    catalogue.  There are some classical discs that are entered in the
    most unusual ways.
    
    In order to determine what an entry on the POC label is, I take
    the order number and try to match it with one in a CD catalogue,
    such as the Green Catalog (or whatever it is called).  Much to my
    surprise, I have found some very good discs.
    
    The problem is that, after having ordered less than 10 discs from them
    I feel that I am nearing the bottom of the barrel.  It would be
    wonderful if they split their selections by category and expanded their
    classical inventory. 
    
    Scott

    Darren,
    
    If you live within NH or Mass they have overnight delivery if you
    get your order in by 3 pm. I had a problem not with Noteworthy who
    shipped it to Lowell Mass overnight but with the UPS folks who decided
    that it was not that important to leave the package with me by with
    anyone they could find to sign for it. Fortunately I found the package
    to bad it to 2 weeks to track it down but the package was originally
    delivered on the day noteworthy said it would. Their prices are
    still the best around even if you have to wait a few days for them.
    
    
    
    			John
    

By the way, last night, when I was in Rockit Records in Nashua, I noticed a 
Noteworthy Order Form on the counter.  The clerk says that they order lots of 
CDs through Noteworthy.

						     
							- JP

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Note 1273.0                  New News on Noteworthy!                  No replies
OFFPLS::LOWNIE                                       12 lines  19-JUL-1988 11:06
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    ***I think this is NEW news (if not, kindly ignore!)*********
    
    Noteworthy (mail order) finally takes charges.....MC/Visa only.
    
    While I had them on the phone I also asked when they were openning
    to the public. They aren't! Period. No plans to EVER! (Too bad for
    me as I live in same town...Nashua NH)
                         
    Thought I'd let you know.
    
    
    BJ

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Note 1371.0                   Noteworthy catalogue                     2 replies
HPSTEK::BROWN                                         9 lines   3-NOV-1988 14:06
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    Has anyone out there received a copy of the new ( supposedly October
    publication ) catalogue from Noteworthy yet?
    I phoned them about a week ago, and was told "we started shipping
    them out a few days ago ", but i havn't seen mine yet and am wondering
    if it fell through the cracks.

                                  cheers,
    					Barry Brown
    					Marlborough, Ma.

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DELNI::GILE "The Time and Space Oddity"               5 lines   3-NOV-1988 14:40
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    Mine just arrived on Monday, I think. Seems they are
    providing better info for some classical music for 
    anyone who is interested.
    
                  Wayne

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TARKIN::OUELLETTE "Cure valetudinarianism!"            1 line   3-NOV-1988 15:29
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Mine arrived on Wednesday...

    What is the number to call and order a catalog?
    
    Steve O
    

>    What is the number to call and order a catalog?
    
1-800-648-7972
or
1-603-883-0082 (in N.H.)

I also got my catalog about a week ago. One complaint - they don't list 
sale prices anymore! I used to order a lot of material based on the
sale price when the catalog comes out - now they don't list it.

Alan S.

    I don't see the need to list the sale price.  It is never guaranteed
    that you will get that price.  I prefer to just see the maximum price,
    and any break I get is an unexpected surprise.
    
    I made my first order Wed. afternoon at 4:15.  The order arrived
    at my office Thursday at 1:15.  Now that is service!!
    
    -Eric 

    
    

    I just called them.  They now require a $2.50 deposit to get a catalog.
    The deposit is refunded on your first purchase.
    
    The address is:
    
    Noteworthymusic
    17 Airport Rd.
    Nashua, NH 03063
    
    Just send a personal check for $2.50 and they will send the catalog.
    
    Steve O

    Also you have to order once a quarter to continue to receive the catalog
    free.

    I just received the latest NOTEWORTHY catalog. They have changed
    their pricing strategy. They now show a "max" price of $7.95 on
    MANY, MANY, MANY of the CDs. (e.g. the Nat King Cole CDs i bought
    several mos ago for $11.?? now show a max price of $7.95). In addition
    there is a "surcharge" of $2.?? if one only buys one record and
    the surcharge diminishes to 0 for 5 CDs or more. It looks like an
    obvious attempt to service those who want to buy fewer than 5 at
    still competitive prices. (The handling charge is still in force)
    But, for those who buy in quantities of 5 or more the prices are
    even better! 
    So, i am looking again for those in ZK who might like to pool purchases.
    I will make the order, bring the CDs to work and collect the money.
    Each person who is interested will pay the NOTEWORTHY billing price-
    GUARANTEED to be no more that the catalog price and frequently less-
    plus their fraction of the shipping/handling costs.
    If interested send me a mailgram @VMSSPT::NICHOLS
    I will bring in a catalog available for viewing at lunchtime tomorrow
    

   				herb 
    
       
    			herb

      This note sounds like a good place to mention this.  If there
    is a cd that you want and you don't see it in the catalog, that
    doesn't necessarily mean they don't have it.  Ask them if they have
    it.  I am referring to relatively new releases that you think should
    be in the catalog but for some reason aren't there.
    
    -Jim
    

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                              -< Classical Music >-
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Note 230.0            What do the NOTEWORTHY "labels" mean             4 replies
VMSSPT::NICHOLS                                      23 lines  21-DEC-1988 13:07
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    The Noteworthy catalog typically lists classical music with the "label"
    POC nnnnnn.n.
    
    Can y'all explain what the "label" means?
    Is this some sort of "standard" calalog-ing nomenclature, and if so is
    there an accessible catalog that expands the meaning of the "index".
    The reason I am asking is that Noteworth offers very good prices, but
    one isn't really aware of all the necessary info. 
    
    e.g. from Noteworthy
    
    BEETHOVEN	SYMPHONIES 5&8			POC 415051.2
    
    No info on who conducted what orchestra.
    
    Could be anything from Carl Munch   BSO
    
    through		   Karajian	BSO (Bremerhaven Symphony) 
    
    to			   Schickele    USNDSO (University of southern
    					North Dakota Symphony)
    
    
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AQUA::ROST "Marshall rules but Fender controls"      10 lines  22-DEC-1988 08:23
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    The "POC" is for "Polygram Original Classics", i.e. it's one of
    the PolyGram labels, DG, Phillips, etc.
    
    The 415051.2 is the PolyGram stock number.  So if you have a Schwann
    or equivalent you could look up all versions of that recording until
    you find one on a PolyGram label with that number.
    
    Until they change that system, buying classical through Noteworthy
    is a real crap-shoot.
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VAX4::SHULER                                         17 lines  22-DEC-1988 11:36
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    This problem has been brought to the attention of NOTEWORTHY.
    I was told this fall that they were planning to redesign their
    catalog to handle this problem.
    
    Why not call them on 1-800-648-7972 or 603-883-9551.
    
    I don't care if only 5% of the population loves classical music.
    I feel we should be able to identify a classical CD in their
    catalog just as easily as we can any other CD.  I refuse to take
    a chance on their classical listings.
    
    If you know where I can buy a Schwann catalog in the Nashua, NH
    area, please post it in this note.
    
    Good luck with Noteworthy!
    Gina
    

    This morning I called Noteworthy to order the latest group
    of Frank Zappa catalog releases through Rykodisc, since I had
    payed 2.50 for the catalog, and Rykodisc tends not to discount
    at the retail level, I thought this would be a good way to recoup
    the 2.50 ( the initial catalog cost is reimbursed upon first purchase)
    as well as save a few bucks on the discs themselves. Unfortunately,
    even though I had a customer order #, and was prepared to order
    all three, I was informed it was their policy not to quote prices
    on the phone. I was told "the prices will be in the new catalog",
    now since this is strictly a mail order/over the phone operation
    it seemed strange that they refused to tell me, even after ordering
    the discs, what I was being charged.  I their prices are so low,
    why are they reluctant to communicate these savings to those with
    an interest in using the service? I ordered the discs, price unseen,
    so it will be interesting to see the final mystery bill. The best
    I can figure the .75 cent per disc service charge will be eliminated
    as well as .25 cent of the 3.75 U.P.S shipping charge for the complete
    order. So far I'm paying aprox. $1.15 per disc for shipping alone.
    Does anyone have an idea, from past experience, what the price
    per disc will be? They are-
    Waka Jawaka
    Absolutely Free
    One Size Fits All
    
                         Thanks, sb

    The rationale for the Noteworthy policy against phone quotes is that
    prices may change between the time that you place the order and the
    time that they fetch from the shelves. In the print somewhere in the
    catalogue they mention that prices are subject to change.
    
    I agree that the process is a bit odd. They are not set up as a
    direct-to-the-customer operation, at least not yet. They started out as
    wholesalers and tend toward that style of business.

    You can always call them the day after you place the order and they
    will give you a total. I do this with every order I place with them
    and they have never given me any trouble about it.

    In their latest catalog update flier which went out last week, they've
    stated that due to the sweeping price changes currently happening
    (reductions, mostly), they cannot take the time to tell a customer the
    exact price of every disc over the phone.  They would never get the
    orders taken.  In most cases, the prices will be cheaper than a
    previous catalog had listed.  As  stated in -.1, if you call in your
    order early in the morning, say by 10 or so,  and then call back around
    3 or 4 pm, they will give you the exact bill as shipped.

    Believe me, you'll be pleasantly surprised!  I've sent in 2 orders so
    far totalling 12 discs, and all prices were lower than expected, and
    far superior to local retail prices here in Motown area.  For instance,
    I got Led Zeppelin I, II, & III for $8.85 each, and the stores all sell
    them for $14.99.

    A new catalog will be out in a couple weeks.

    A very satisfied customer of Noteworthy,

	Al

    I have made about 5 or 6 orders to Noteworthy totalling about 30-40
    disks.  I can don't recall ever paying the price quoted in the catalog.
    My cost is always less.  My rationale has been "assume your cost is the
    cost quoted in the catalog (still beats the stores) and then be
    pleasantly surprised when the disks are delivered". 
    
    -Eric

    I received the Zappa c.ds today from U.P.S. The price per disc was
    10.36, fairly consistent with the previous catalog prices for single
    Zappa discs. A slight price increase, if anything. Purchase of 5
    discs and under results in a .75 cent "service charge" per disc.
    The shipping cost for 5 discs and under is 3.50. So, without
    the initial 2.50 reimbursment for the catalog cost, and including
    all shipping/service charges, the discs wind up selling for aprox.
    $12.28. A savings of between 2-3 dollars per disc over standard
    retail cost.