Conference marvin::uk_music

    Oasis.

    I would say Oasis cause they're NORTHERN, but I prefer Blur's music I
    think, can I vote for them both please...
    
    Andrea

Blur, but only cos they're less pleased with themselves than Oasis.

/g

Oasis and Blur are all southern gits, but my vote goes for Blur.

Chris.

    Oasis are from Manchester aren't they???
    
    Andrea

> 3-1 to Blur so far...

Yes, but in a "Hitler v Stalin" type of contest that's not saying much.

Guy

    Damon from Blur:	"Oasis Quo"
    
    Noel from Oasis:		
    
    	Interviewer 	"Why do you think that Indie-type bands are so popular
    			 now?"
    
    	Noel		"We're not indie and their not popular" 
    
    	Noel then walks off.
    
    Oasis 'cos I like Status Quo.
    
    Stuart

    3.2 to Blur but it looks as if Oasis's own Stalingrad is taking shape.
    
    Barry.

>    Oasis are from Manchester aren't they???
    
yup.  So my claim about them being southerners still stands.

Chris.

    Blur, coz I've never forgiven Quo for not calling it quits after the
    end of the road tour in 1984 and Oasis remind me of Quo

    Oasis get my vote purely on the strength of their first album.
    
    Blur - Bag 'o' Shite  
    
    (don't let my girlfreind hear me say that!)

    >In the end who gives a toss.
    
    Or as last weeks NME put it when totting up the scores, of those people
    they asked about who would be n� 1, into different categories
    
    	Blur, Oasis, People who have a life
    
    For the record, I think Oasis won but can't remember and couldn't
    really give a toss.
    
    Stuart

    And to put things at 4:4.....
    
    As Liam (or was it Noel) put it, in reference to the Blur 'thang':   
    
    "Sounds like Chas and Dave"!!!!!!!!!!!
    
     Blur? - No Thankyou..

    I really don't give a 2.12.
    
    But if it comes down to it, Oasis sound like the Beatles having a fight
    with Status Quo - Pony.
    
    Blur are from London, so they win.
    
    Anyway, I've never been to keen on the Hypey bands.
    
    
    Tim.
    
    
    
    
    
    

>    Blur are from London, so they win.
    
nah they're not, otherwise I wouldn't have voted for them.  They're
from Colchester.

Chris.

Are we talking about the current "fight" here, or the bands in general?

If we're talking about the current singles, Blur win hands down as far as I'm 
concerned.  Country house is a brilliant pop song, but Roll with it is Oasis' 
worst single so far, IMO.  It may sound like ver Quo, but it's not as good.  
There.

Every time I hear Blur I grind a little more surface off my teeth (OK, 
fillings). Please no more cheerful cockney (no matter where they come from) 
"humour".

And 'Definitely Maybe' is pretty good too.

g

This morning's paper puts Blur ahead by 10 sales to Oasis' every 9, but
attributes the lead to initial stock being flogged at �1.99 a throw.
Both singles are selling like proverbial hot cackes.  When the early
Blur stocks sell out Oasis' will supposedly regain lost ground.

There is also much journo dribbling about Stones v Beatles etc.

Guy

Whilst the press, and ourselves, are going on about how this is the clash of 
the titans etc., everyone seems to be forgetting that the UK charts are so 
crap, these days, that if some man dressed up as a pineapple releases a CASIO 
demo. tune, and sings; "I'm a pineapple, come eat me.  dugga dugga dugga" etc., 
then both Blur and Oasis will be knocked out of the top ten before you can say 
"Right said Fred".

>that if some man dressed up as a pineapple releases a CASIO 
>demo. tune, and sings; "I'm a pineapple, come eat me.  dugga dugga dugga" etc.,

How did you find out about my next single?  That's supposed to be top 
secret that it.

Guy

    Absolutely right Matt.
    
    The charts went Pony c.1987
    
    They're not as good as they were in my day blah blah etc.etc.
    
    
    Tim

    I notice that Blur have released their single in two parts...the second
    part being available this week also.  So I guess these double sales
    mean they are bound to 'win'. 
    
    The bands must be falling about laughing at all the media coverage.  
    
    mikef

    Matthew,
    
    What even with the Wildtarts making the Top 40? It was only a
    year or so ago when the Wedding Present released a single every month
    in a rather fruitful marketing ploy to ensure they made the charts
    from Jan - Dec. Perhaps you didn't like them then?
    
    Tim, what was so wunderful about 1987 then?
    
    Andy 

    
    I would say they are both crap.....
    
    but Blur are probably the worst.......
    
    			......

    Mike,
    
    I have a feeling that the second "part" is counted as a separate single
    for the charts.
    
    Stuart

re .24

No, I said the charts are crap.  There are exceptions, and 4 or 5 of the 
Weddoes' 12 singles were excellent.  My point is that these singles pass pretty 
quickly.  Music lovers go and buy the single in the first week, radio doesn't 
play it, so it disappears.  Unfortunately, radio plays the crap songs, and 
hence people carry on buying them beyond the first week of release.

ITN say that Blur are "fractionally" ahead.

Gosh.

m.

    Having finally listened fully to both of the songs, I vote for Oasis..
    no competition there really.. (even though they think they invented
    arrogance)
    
    Andrea

    Re :.24
    
    Not much.
    
    
    
    Tim

    The Oasis single, I feel is there weakest yet. Blurs Single I find
    insanely catchy esp lines like "He's reading Balzac, Knocking back the
    Prozac" and "I'm a professional cynic, But my heart's not in it "
    Any other Oasis single would get my vote , but in this case it goes to
    Blur.
    
    Did anyone else hear that ginger Prat on the radio this morning talking
    about the mid week chart placings. Apparently, by law, you cannot give
    chart placings out, but due to some clever wording (legal dept involved
    no doubt) he said if this was Sundays chart Oasis would be #2 to Blur
    by about 28,000 sales. Earlier in the week he said that Blur are on a
    one to one deal with the record stores (buy one copy get one free)
    whereas Oasis are on one to ten. 
    
    This is just a marketing war between Sony and EMI (I think thats Blurs 
    record label owner) and the punters are getting caught up in the hype.
    Still it's better than having that DROSS at #1 for another week !!!
    
    
    			Stretch.

    I think that The Outhere Brothers are totally great and I resent that
    last remark Stretch.

    I resent it even more.. dross indeed..pah..
    
    Andrea

re .33

Take T*at are number one, actually, hence Andrea's response.  BTW, Andrea, they 
were appalling on TOTP last night, FWIW.

    With all this hyping silly season , it'd be a laugh if T**e T**t held 
    onto no. 1, serve the record companies right.
    
    I vote for neither, they've both done better.
    
    	Euan

    just show how much I know doesn't it.  That Take That song is total
    crud.                          

    Nigel,
    
    	Just coz I vote for neither doesn't mean I vote for TT, I was just
    reflecting on the egg that'd land on various faces if they did hold
    out.
    
    	Euan 'not a TT fan'

    sorry,  my reply was for a couple back not for yours mate,  I didn't
    realise that TT had dislodgded the outhere bros. (who really p*ss me
    off)
    
    In response I actually quite liked TT until this single,  now I think
    that they should let Gary do all the singing!!
    
    
    N
    

Also, I find the children's choir a tad sinister, when you think of various 
rumours...

    So...Blur got to no 1.... (I didn't listen to the charts, but I assume
    Oasis were no2).
    
    BTW - re a few back, sales of both parts of the Blur single count
    towards the one total...so I guess its no surprise that they went ahead
    in the first week.
    
    ho hum.
    
    what  shall we get excited about this week?
    
    mikef 

    Mike,
    
    >what  shall we get excited about this week?
    
    Suggestions:
    
    	(1) Why Gary Barlow is leaving Take That?
    
    	(2) Can Blur remain at n� 1?
    
    Stuart

    re (1)
    
    he's not , he's not, he's not...
    
    Andrea (sulking now..)
    
    

    re -1
    
    Andrea,
    
    He is, he is, he is...

    Ok, no fence-sitting here ...
    
    Got 'The Great Escape' and '(what's the story?) Morning Glory', and
    IMHO the Oasis album is better, disappointed with 'The Great Escape'. 
    Haven't got Parklife or Definitely Maybe, am more likely to get
    Definitely Maybe after hearing the latest than Parklife.
    
    Apologies to those who think this is all boring main-stream rubbish !
    
    Euan
    
    
    PS Well, If Mr Weller decides to honour Oasis with a guest slot on
    	the album they must be better , tee hee !
    

    Euan,
    If that sad old git Weller has done more than just influence Noel
    through their recent associations, I will have to seriously reconsider
    my intended purchase !!!! Does he actually play on the album ? Does he
    (Lord of all music that is mighty forbid) sing on the album ? Which
    track is he on ?
    
    
         		Concerned_Stretch.

    Stretch,
    
    He plays on the last track, 'Champagne Supernova'. I don't think he
    sings on it.
    
    Stuart

    Stuart,
    	I have heard that track, and will put my hands up and say it is not
    too bad actually !!
    
                    Stretch.
    
    P.S	I'll give you bad vibes !!!!! Balowski !!!!

    Stretch,
    
    	Always happy to oblige ! It would be a tenner well spent though.
    
    	Heard on the radio that the Oasis album sold more copies on first
    day of release than Blur album did in a week.
    
    		Euan

    Whoever has bought the new Oasis album,
    
    While I am considering this, a question no one has been able to answer
    is - The bonus track on the vinyl - is it much cop ???
    
    The first (vinyl) album was the same idea,although I cannot remember
    the title or quality of it.
    
    		Stretch.

    Stretch,
    
    I have the album on vinyl. So far, I've only had time to listen to
    the first side (which doesn't feature the extra track), so can't give
    an opinion on it as yet.
    
    If you like I can tape the lp for you.
    
    Leonie.

    re. 50 
    
    The bonus track on 'Definitely Maybe' was a Noel Gallagher acoustic
    job called 'Sad Song' - pretty good too.
    
    Andy

    But what about the new albums bonus track, Andy ?
    
    			Stretch.
    
    P.S Mr Dicks is W.H.U top scorer now !!! I thought you might be
    interested !!!

    Yes, St Julian is the Hammers top scorer, which is kind of strange
    as he doesn't normally spend much time on the pitch.
    
    Re Bonus track on '(Whats the story...) Morning Glory', I read
    somewhere that it is a track sung by Bonehead and the title is something
    do with him as well. As to it's quality, I cannot comment.
    
    Andy
    

    Andy,
      You use the Drudes name in the same sentance as that knuckle-head !!!
    
    		BLASPHEMER !!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    And he is top scorer due to his penalty abilities of all things !!! I
    thought he was the man who conceded, not converted such oppurtunities.
    
    
                Cross_conferenced_Stretch

    Stretch,
    
    You'll love the Oasis album. Its got a similar feel to it as a Paul
    Weller album.
    
    Stuart

    Stuart,
    
    	Do you mean that it's sort of a hard plasticy feel, or a hard
    semi-metallic with no grooves on feel !!!
    
    
    Ian.

    
    OR boring,self indulgent, yawn inducing, guitar w*nkery perhaps !!!
    
    			
    Stretch_still_not_sure_where_his_tenner_is_going_!!!!

    Well I've just bought it so it must be good (ha!!)  I'll let you know
    tomorrow
    
    Andrea$Paul Weller fan and now Oasis

    Andrea,
    
    You only bought it because Robbie is (alledgedly) good friends with the
    band!
    
    Stuart

    Yeah I'm dead sad me!!  No I actually like Oasis, have done for a while
    but don't worship the ground they walk on (unlike another band from the
    same part of the world) and I think they'll drop the Robbie Williams
    groupie soon enough.. but I'm quite flattered that you tink I'm sad
    enough to do it..brownie points for Euro_sad there I think!!:)
    
                                                            
    Andrea

    I think the only group to rival Blur and Oasis now is the return of
    Smokie, with their new member Roy "Chubby" Brown and a re-issue of the
    70's classic "Living Next Door to Alice". Hilarious with Chubby's
    insertions after the title line "Alice, who the x is Alice" although 
    on TOTP last night x was replaced with the word bleep.

    Blur and Oasis cannot compete against such a classic that is sure
    to go down in history.

    Jane.

    
    If Blur or Oasis's PR and Marketing folks had any idea about what they
    were doing, they'd have ensured that the singles/albums/tours were a
    respectful distance apart from each other. The majority of people who
    buy there records and go to the gigs don't have a lot of money, so why
    force them to make a choice ? they'd probably buy output from both, and
    pay to see both bands live if they didn't occur at the same time.
    
    There are far too many signed bands out there who have nothing spent on them
    by the so called 'marketing' departments of record companies, and many
    other who don't get signed at all, while money is wasted trying to
    promote one band as being better than another - why not give them all a fair
    deal, and let people make their own minds up ? 
    
    All IMHO, of course !
    
    Graham

    The extra track on the vinyl format of the Oasis album is called
    Bonehead's Bank Holiday. I like it. Definate shades of the Beatles
    (I think it reminds me of 'I am the Walrus'). There is also a rather
    amusing piece at the endd of the track where thee band put on silly
    voices and take the p*ss out of the song's lyrics.
    
    Also, for your edification, Paul Weller is credited with providing
    lead guitar and backing vocals on Champagne Supernova. That knowledge
    didn't detract from my enjoymentt of the song, though.
    
    Leonie. (Not a fan of Weller's solo stuff.)

    Leonie,
    
    >That knowledge didn't detract from my enjoymentt of the song, though.
    
    Yes but Stretch is going to be extremely upset with that.
    	

   Oi, Balowksi,
    	How can I be upset with Leonies comments when you take the
    bracketed afterthought !!!
    
    
    
      			Stretch.

    Well i played it last night and overall was pretty impressed, I
    especially liked Hello and the last track, Supernova, Morning glory was
    pretty cool as well..By the way not Oasis but I bought the cast single
    at the same time and the other teo CD tracks are promising as well..
    
    Andrea_likes more than 1 band but only loves 1

        
>    Apologies to those who think this is all boring main-stream rubbish !
    
>    Euan
 
    Would'nt worry about it. Now that The Big Bad Rod (McFad) has long 
    departed it is no longer a requirement to cite the influences of 
    The Fire Engines etc before you're deemed credible or taken seriously. 
    
    Barry

    For what it's worth, both 'The Great Escape' & 'Morning Glory' are 
    good albums. 'The Great Escape' lacks the classics of 'Parklife' (there
    are no 'This is a Low' or 'Girls & Boys' on here) but it also lacks the
    chunk of fillers that fill up the second side of 'Parklife'. More
    uniformly good, if you know what I mean.
    
    Noel 'Magpie' Gallaghers steal of REM's 'The One I love' for the title
    track of 'Whats the story...' is quite funny in that it's almost masked
    by all the helicopter noises, but not quite. Actually, he is normally 
    pretty blatant with his rip-offs and there are plenty here. None the
    less, it's well worth the purchase.
    
    IMO neither can surpass 'It's great when your straight.......yeah'.
    
    Andy

    Finally managed to get my hands on both "The Great Escape" and "What's
    the Story. Morning Glory ?".
    
    IMO, the Oasis album is far superior, and is so much more polished than
    Definately Maybe. "The Great Escape" lacks the punch of "Parklife" -
    only Country House stands out as truly great song, however anyone who
    can get Ken Livingston to "sing" on an album deserves some credit.
    
    Gary
    

    Well Blur isn`t my kind of music- I don`t like them, they don`t like
    me, so we are even.
    But Oasis fits on my kind of music, like my music fits them.
    Well that`s all folks.                                                        
    
    
     

    Yep they are at it again. According to this mornings NME, Blur release
    'Stereotypes' and Oasis release 'Don't Look Back In Anger' on February
    12.
    
    Will Robson and Jerome rise to the challenge and release their single
    on the same day? No probably not.

    I haven't heard the Blur song yet, but "Don't Look Back in Anger" is
    a cracking song and one of Oasis's best.
    
    Goldy.

    Stratto,
    Oasis will win this one easily having just swept the boards at the
    Brats. And the song is better. 
    I think Robson & Jerome would win though in a threeway head to head
    as there are so many dimwitted punters in the nations record shops !!!
    
    			Stretch.