Conference marvin::uk_music

Rediscovered this week;

"Shatner" by the Wedding Present (yup, remember them?)
"Poor old man" by Status Quo (1969, that one, I believe)
"Hang on to your ego" by the Beach Boys

    
    Matt, I use the All-in-1 interface too...
    
    what's wrong with dir/tit=.....
    or dir ?
    
    helpful_of_warrington %^)
    
    

     
    anyway, on my deck in the last week or so.....
    
    'Almost Pure'                       - The Crystal Set
    'Vast Halos'                        - HEX
    'Sometime, Anywhere/Somewhere Else' - The Church
    'Earth vs The Wildhearts'           - The Wildhearts
    'Pungent Effluent'                  - Ozric Tentacles
    
    Graham

    "Man" live at Reading 1983....
    "Zoot Allures" by Zappa...
    "A tab in the Ocean" by Nektar.
    
    Barry.

re ,2

The ALL-IN-1 "gpc" thing, not "NOT".  "DIR" is some kind of phone book.

re.3

Nice to see someone else appreciating Ginge and his fine brand of melodious 
racket.

'Wasted' - Best Of Volume, Volume 1 (from the people who brought you TEEX 1,2,n
	   2 CDs and a groovy book, Orbital, Orb, Bjork, Cypress Hill,
	   Underworld, etc, and my personal fave Mindless Drug Hoover with
	   a ditty called 'The Reefer Song')

'Duke'	- Genesis, err, sorry, but I do actually like this, although Phil
	  Collins is a pillock

'B52s'	- B52s, Watch out for that piranha!

'Seasons In The Abyss'	- Slayer, majestic stuff.


Guy

p.s. and 'What Do You Mean, 60 quid to take a portable CD player apart, put it
back together, and pretend you've fixed it?' - by Me To The Rip Off Sony Centre.

    Currently residing in the car (and thus guaranteed at least 10 possible
    plays in a week) CD system:
    
    Poison - Alice Cooper. 
    Good for a laugh, this one. How does he get away with lyrics such as 
    "Pull my trigger, it gets bigger, then I'm lots of fun"?
    
    Deep Forest - Deep Forest. 
    Bet you can't sing along to those pygmy chants. Been playing this for 
    weeks, and I can't.
    
    Aqualung - Jethro Tull. 
    A classic. 'nuff said.
    
    Deep Purple - Perfect Strangers. 
    And aren't they just.
    
    Mike Oldfield - Crises. 
    With, you guessed it, Maggie Reilly!
    
    Sinfonia Antartica - Vaughn-Williams. 
    Well, it's hot outside and I haven't got aircon in the car.
    
    Finlandia, Karellia Suite - Sibelius
    Me, romantic? Never.
    
    1992, The Love Album - Carter U.S.M. 
    Doh Re Mi Soh Far So Good really.
    
    Whenever - Aimee Mann
    A little angst never did anyone any harm.
    
    Parklife - Blur. 
    Well, it's not about your Vorsprung Durch Technic, cutting down on the 
    porklife and getting some exercise.
    
    
    This weeks choice, anyway
    
    Balders

    Hmmmm
    
    Pick a Dub by Keith Hudson
    Protection - Massive Attack
    Cannibalism - Can
    Pills Thrills n Bellyaches - Happy Mondays
    
    nothing too wild, I admit, but I'm an old man.  Did I mention this?  
    More elsewhere.
    
    Mikef 
    

    Sum and Substance - The Mission
    Worry Bomb - Carter USM
    
    Definitely Maybe - Oasis
    A Slight Case of Overbombing - Sisters of Mercy

    King - Belly
    Lifeforms - FSOL
    To Bring You My Love - PJ Harvey
    
    cheers,
    		fred deady

    
    ..... a few more.....
    
     Warren Zevon  Stand in the Fire (live) 
     Warren piece of magic
    
     Family   Bandstand
     Chapman/Whitney's finest
    
     Scott Walker  Climate of the Hunter
     Even I could write better lyrics than this, but the Voice...
     
     Blue Nile Hats
     Any sign of that difficult 3rd album lads?
    
     Freedy Johnston  Can you Fly
     Lots of 3 minute classic pop songs and The Mortician's Daughter too!  
    
    
     Des

Some dodgy Goth compilation that I've lost the cover for.  I wish I
knew who recorded half the tracks on it!  But it includes NIN, James
Ray, Killing Joke, and that's about the only ones I know!

Lush - Gala.

Iron Maiden - Killers.

Black Sabbath - Sabotage.

and, er, (goes rummaging in the tape deck) oh yeah, Pink Floyd - Meddle.

Chris.

    This weeks faves....
    
    Die Krupps 	  - "Fatherland", "To The Hilt"
    XC-NN      	  - "Young, Stupid & White", "Basta"
    Rollins Band  - "Liar"
    Nightcrawlers _ "Push The Feeling On"
    
    Dave
    

    Kraftwerk - various
    UFO - No Heavy Petting/Force It
    Icehouse - Measure for Measure
    Soundtrack from The Piano.

    
    Doolittle - Pixies
    It'll End in Tears - This Mortal Coil
    Definately Maybe - Oasis
    Chemicrazy - That Petrol Emotion
    Heaven or Las Vegas - Cocteau Twins
    Lonely is an Eyesore - Various
    Love - Aztec Camera
    
    and a few more.
    
    
    Charley.

    
    'Whenever you need somebody' - Rick Astley
    'Wurzels sing Bob Marley' - Wurzels
    '20 Great Drinking Songs' - Brian Clough
    'Curry House Classics' - Various Artists
    'Live and Unleashed' - Clannad
    
    Andy

    
    ...I've got a Live bootleg you may be interested in Andy....
    
    	"The Nolans Live at Donnington '89"
    
    Graham

    re last
    
    Unlikely as it sounds the Nolans very nearly made a single with
    Motorhead. It could have been called "I'm in the mood for Smirnoff"
    I suppose. 
    
    I recommend "The Orb, Unplugged" Andy.
    
    barry.

The Nolans did record a single with Lemmy and a couple of others
under the name `The Young & Moody Band' (the Moody being Micky of
Whitesnake if I remember correctly) in the early '80s.

Chris.

    2 CD's for 15.00 last Saturday -
    
    The Clash - The Clash (LP upgrade, but worth listening to again)
    ELP       - Tarkus (and you thought you were sad Mikef). Goodness me this 
    		album is a load of nonsense. You're the authority on these
    		things Balders, what IS it all about?
    
    Phil Gill.

    re .20
    
    Err, 'Tarkus', that's the one with a bizarre combination of 1st World
    War British Tank and Armadillo on the cover. Right? And glorious
    tracks including 'AquaTarkus'? Glorious tosh alright. Been a while
    since I last gave this one a spin, so I'll give it a blast tonight and
    get back to you.
    
    If you like, I can probably have a good go at explaining Karn Evil 9
    from Brain Salad Surgery. The problem with both these albums (and other
    prog rock efforts) is that my head was never in its most lucid state
    when listening to them.
    
    Let's see, how about
    
    Cold and misty morning
    Caught a warning
    Born in the air
    'Bout an age of power
    No one had an hour to spare
    
    
    			Karn Evil 9 - 1st Impression
    
    
    Sadly yours
    Balders

    
    re:.7 (tangerin...er...tangent time, please excuse the indulgence)
    
    That list appears strangely unchanged from last year!  Although from
    what I remember Parklife wasn't around, but in it's place was that Abba
    collection...as half of Bath Square usually found out.
    
    Chris.

    Coincidence Chris, just coincidence. The list changes on a 2 to 3
    weekly basis, depending on my mood. In fact I changed it last night:
    
    Mussorsky     - Pictures at an Exhibition
    Ugly Kid Joe  - America's Least Wanted
    Gary Moore    - Victims of the Future
    Rush          - Roll the Bones
    Jethro Tull   - Rock Island
    Mike Oldfield - Songs of Distant Earth
    Orbital       - Snivilization
    Vangelis      - Spiral
    Steeleye Span - Hark the Village Wake
    Martin Carthy - The Collection
    
    Balders

    >>Err, 'Tarkus', that's the one with a bizarre combination of 1st World
    >>War British Tank and Armadillo on the cover. Right?
    
    That's the one. Also a cross between a lion and a scorpion inside (a
    Manticore?).
    
    Phil Gill. 

re .23

Oddly enough, Pictures at an exhibition was in my autochanger when the bloody 
thing jammed.  hmmm....should be back this week.  Better phone 'em.

Wow!  Just rediscovered another one;

"Velouria", by the Pixies....and "Alison", too.  In fact, all of "Bossanova".

Matt$chuffed_he_found_those_tapes_down_the_back_of_the_back_seat.

Lawnmower Deth's "Ooh Crikey, It's..." found its way back on to my
record deck yesterday... "Oi Arfur, come over 'ere, take this sword,
now **** OFF!!"

Chris.

Sounds as bad as Half man half biscuit's "F***in' 'ell!  It's Fred Titmus!".

    What was so bad about Fred Titmus?
    
    mikef

The song or the Cricketer?

    The song - I never met the cricketer
    
    mikef

Time flies by when you're the driver of a train,
Speeding out of Trumpton with a cargo of cocaine.



Aaaaahhh, my teenage years revisited...

The song, that is.   Not the cocaine bit.....



Matt$covering_tracks_rather_sharply.

    
>> Matt$covering_tracks_rather_sharply.
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    as was the train no doubt...
    
    I take it we're discussing the Trumption riots here and not your
    formative years in front of the TV ?
    
    how about:-
     
    Four Pints of Lager & a packet of crips please ?
    
    
    Graham

    
    the song that is....
    
    Graham$who_sticks_to_real_ale_wherever_possible

    I thought it was two pints of lager?
    
    mikef(real ale man also)
    

    
 >>>   I thought it was two pints of lager?
    
    ...you're right Mike, I was thinking of the '10.55, last orders remix'.
    
    Graham

    My twopennerth... just to get this note back on track
    
    Shake your money maker - Black Crowes
    Division Bell - Floyd P.
    Blues & Ballads - Gary Moore
    From the Cradle - EC
    Grace - Jeff Buckley
    
    

>    Division Bell - Floyd P.

does that mean you file your 'Floyd records under `F'?  Oh dear... :)

Chris.

    On the slip mat this week :-
    
    Stanley Road - Paul Weller
    War - U2
    Louder Than Bombs - The Smiths
    Before & After - Tim Finn
    Stone Roses - Stone Roses
    Division Bell - Pink Floyd
    Dodgy - Dodgy
    Cream Live - Various Artists
    
    
    	Ian.

Stanley Road - Paul Weller (borrowed, a bit boring really)
White Zombie - Long Title I Can't Remember, Something About An Electric Head
		(borrowed, total drivel)
The Crow     - OST (like the Cure track particularly)
Fini Tribe   - Sheigra (an unexpected groovy treat, and they're fae Leith)
Dragonfly    - Journey Into Trace (empty your brain and start coding)
React        - React showcase CD (free with some magazine, good in parts but
	       mostly irritating)
Bomber       - Motorhead (now that's what I call music)

Guy

    Paul Weller - Stanley Road
    Ashley & Jackson - Solid Gold
    Al Green - Don't Look Back
    The Jam - Live Jam
    New Order - Movement
    Shed Seven - Change Giver
    Dodgy - Homegrown

Currently spinning in my Marantz,
    
	Live 		- Throwing Copper 
			  (REM style rock, good, gets better after track 2)
	Mad Season	- Above 
			  (guitar from Pearl Jam with singer from 
			   Alice in Chains, jazzy and laid back like
			   Jar of Flies was, great)
	Headswim	- Flood 
			  (Englands version of Faith No More, first half dozen
			   songs are triff then they get a bit lost)
	Paul Weller	- Stanley Road 
			  (Just like Wild Wood except it's got no good songs
			   on it. Waste of money)
	Robbie Robertson - Music for Native Americans
			  (Got some diner guests coming ? Want to show how
			   right on your music collection is ? they'll comment
	  		   on this one)
	Vangelis	- Bladerunner
			  (stick the headphones on, big glass of whisky,
			   fall asleep)

Dave WOOD
    
    

    
    This week's play list......
    
    Belize Tropicale         Brazilian Music compiled by David Byrne
    Bois de Bologne          Peter De Havilland
    What's goin on           Marvin Gaye
    The Piano Soundtrack     Michael Nyman
    Woman in Chains (single) Tears for Fears with Olita Adams
    
    
    
    
     Des

    And after the Thursday morning change, the current playlist is :-
    
    
    Mother Earth - Can't remember the name of it at this precise moment,
    although it does have "Jesse" and "Stardust Bubblegum" on !!
    Otis Redding - Greatest Hits
    Lemonheads - Come on, feel the Lemonheads !!
    The Cure - KM *3
    REM - Monster
    
    
    Ian.

>>>Mother Earth - Can't remember the name of it at this precise moment

People tree.

    
    
    	Thankyou !!
    
    	Don't you just hate it when that happens !!
    
    	Ian.

    Turntable Terror this week came from....
    
    King For a Day Fool For a Lifetime    Faith No More
    Cure For Sanity    Pop Will Eat Itself
    Five Dollar Bob's Mock Cooter Stew    Mudhoney

    Leonard Cohen	I'm Your Man
    Beethoven		7th and 8th Symphonies
    Various 		Barrel House Boogie
    
    Phil Gill.

    This week's listening pleasure is a live from the mixing desk recording
    of Midway Still's last ever show, at the After Dark, Reading, 25/4/95.

    The Long Ryders - 10-5-60
    Husker Du	    - Warehouse:Songs & Stories
    Dodgy	    - Dodgy
    The Damned      - Machine Gun Etiquette
    XTC		    - Oranges & Lemons
    Neil Young	    - Freedom

    Pink Floyd	Pulse
    
    Phil Gill.

    One of the greatest 'lost' albums ever...Beastie Boys  Paul's Boutique.
    
      \/ 
     \/\/
          q:^'

    
    re: Paul's Boutique.
    
    Which one is that, the most recent?
    
    Chris.

    No, the one after Licensed to Ill, but before Check your head, Some Old
    Bullsh*t (a compilation of early punk stuff), and the most recent Ill
    Communication.
    
    q:^'>@
    

"Hello" - Status Quo.

.....FortyfivehundredtimesItoldyouhowmuchIcare...du-du-du-du-du-duh.....

and

.....Cuuuum oooon sweet Caroline; Yooouuuur myyyyyy Sweet Caroline......etc.

People Tree - Mother Earth
Weezer - Weezer

    Long Players This Week
    
    Root Down		Beastie Boys
    Stone in the Rain	Kirk Brandon's 10:51
    Hendrix 303 demos   Jesus Jones
    Alice's Restaurant	Arlo Guthrie
    Killing Fields OST  Mike Oldfield
    

    Blues Walk - Lou Donaldson
    Our man in Paris - Dexter Gordon.
    
    I'm gonna have to make a trip into London sometime to find stores that
    still sell vinyl...
    
    mikef

Us - Peter Gabriel.  Saw him on TV last night and remembered I had the album,
so decided to have a listen to it.  Just as bad as I remember, boring songs,
sounds like it was recorded in a dustbin straight onto somebody's walkman which
they once dropped in the toilet one particularly wasted friday night.

Antics In The Forbidden Zone - Adam and The Ants.  Once I'd wiped all the
sweaty thumb prints off it, a great greatest hits album.  Brilliant for
annoying the neighbours.

Guy

I really can't see the attraction with Peter Gabriel, IMO he's one
of the most terminally boring songwriters in existence.  I seem to
remember that I liked `Games Without Frontiers' when I was about 10,
but he's gone constantly downhill in my estimation since then.

I still dig Adam & The Ants though.

Chris$saddo.

    Bjork - Debut
    Cocteau Twins - Four Calendar Cafe
    Kelly Willis - Bang Bang
    
    cheers,
    	
    	fred deady

    Freddy Slack	Can't remember but it will have "boogie" and "88"
    			in the title
    The Stranglers	Black and White
    Gustav Faur�	Requiem
    
    Phil Gill.

"Body Exit Mind" - New FADS
"Movement"       - New Order
anything	 - New Kids on the Block



Just kidding about the last one.

Add: "Doppelganger" - Curve

/Ed

    Laurie Anderson - Mister Heartbreak
    Squeeze	    - Argy Bargy
    Rosie Vela	    - Zazu
    
    cheers,
    		fred deady	

    This one's for all you truckers out there....
    
    Playing this week...selections frae
    
    Grand Prix			Teenage Fanclub
    All Blue Revue		Golden Claw Musics
    13 Songs			Fugazi
    Lovey			Lemonheads
    Manilow			Smudge
    Teenage Syphonies To God    Velvet Crush
    Screamadelica		Primal Scream
    Music For The Jilted
     Generation			Prodigy
    Twin Action			18 Wheeler
    
    (:^'
    
    (Smashie and Nicey: End of an era...on BBC1 10:00pm Wednesday)

This week, definitely,

Zuma - Neil Young

Wow!  "Cortez the Killer".  Who needs drugs when you've got music like this!  
Sends you onto a different plane (err...sortof metaphorically).  


Pulse - Pink Floyd

Not as bad value as some may have you believe.  74 minutes on each CD.


Jam - Little Angels

Nostalgia, I suppose.  I still stand by the fact that they made some flippin' 
excellent music, though.  "Splendin Isolation", "I was not wrong", and "Don't 
confuse sex with love" are current favourites.

    >>Pulse - Pink Floyd
    
    How many live albums do Pink Floyd need to release, one for each studio
    album? Someone is being fleeced good and proper. I'll just wait for my
    brother to get bored of his copy.
    
    %^\
    
    (That flashing light is quite nice though) 

Given the number of live albums that they didn't release when Waters
was still in the band, I do sometimes wonder... they've hardly been
prolific since then (one album every 6 years?), and I'm not in a rush
to buy Pulse after the `Delicate Sounds of Thunder' scam!

Chris.

Well, the score is;

I have Wish you were here, and Division Bell on CD.  I have a copy of The Wall.
There are a number of tracks which aren't on these 2 CDs, but I like 'em.  
Unfortunately, Pink Floyd tend to put a fair bit of dirge in-between the gems.  
As a result, I don't feel the need to spend 27 quid on the Wall, just to listen 
to the sublime "Comfortably Numb" (which is better live, frankly).  Same goes 
for a load of the other tracks.  Also, I prefer the way Floyd play their stuff 
live, as obviously the production in the 70s was pretty crap.

Effectively, the live albums are "best of..." albums.  From what I can gather, 
though, there's a lot of track duplication between "Delicate sound..." and 
"Pulse".  I don't really give a monkeys, personally, cos I haven't got "Delicate 
sound...".

Banco da Gaia - Last Train to Lhasa.


I was on a mission in Virgin when this caught my eye. I remembered reading
a favourable review in here, and thought wtf lets dig deep. I have only heard
cd's 1 & 2 and have been suitably impressed, although for some strange reason
it makes me hark fondly back to the days when a packet of orange Rizzla 
kingsize was never far from my grasp. 

Stuart

Re -.1

Funny you should say that - I played the first CD to a friend, and his
first reaction was "no, no, no, these guys don't do drugs at all"

/g

     re .71,.72
    
    strange ! I was listening to this at the w/e - my other half got it for
    her Birthday - what I've heard so far is superb, so I'll make a point
    of seeing/hearing them at Glastonbury.
    
    Graham
    
    BTW, is the triple CD a special release ? it only has track listings
    for CDs 1 & 2...
    

<<< Note 1296.73 by WOTVAX::STONEG "Temperature Drop in Downtime Winterland...." >>>
                                     -< ? >-

    
>    BTW, is the triple CD a special release ? it only has track listings
>    for CDs 1 & 2...
    
     Graham,

     It says special limited edition triple thingy on mine. What a snip at 
     �12:99.

     Stuart

>     It says special limited edition triple thingy on mine. What a snip at 
>     �12:99.

Yeah, the standard one only has CDs 1 and 2.  I've already seen this in a couple
of shops.  I got the triple for �10.99 nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah.

I understand the first album "Maya" is good too.  Mr McFadyen , late of this
conference, recommended it.

/g

    If you enjoy Banco de Gaia's material I would suggest you try "All Blue
    Revue" by Golden Claw Musics on Infectious records. This album has a
    similar 'eastern' feel, and was very well received in the music press
    (if anyone is particualrly bothered about that sort of thing). If
    you're a bit wary of buying �12 worth of album 'blind', Golden Claw
    Musics have released a 10" orange vinyl sampler of the album called
    "Digging The Dancing Weed".
    
    (:^'
    
    

>    If you enjoy Banco de Gaia's material I would suggest you try "All Blue
>    Revue" by Golden Claw Musics on Infectious records. This album has a

OK, I'll give it a go.  If it turns out to be no good then I'll be round
to sort you out :-)

>     Musics have released a 10" orange vinyl sampler of the album called

Will this work OK if I have to fold it half to get it into the CD player?

>    "Digging The Dancing Weed".

I assume these guys never do drugs either?

Guy

    
    ...if it's actually available on Vinyl (and Orange, at that) then I"d
    better get one then - I haven't had a vinyl fix for quite a while.
    
    Graham$vinyl_junkie 

beeep, duggaduggaduggaduggaduggaduggaduggadugga, sweeeeeeeb.  

> beeep, duggaduggaduggaduggaduggaduggaduggadugga, sweeeeeeeb.  

You'd better lay off those drugs, Matt.  They can do your head in.

Helpfully,

Guy

Nah, I've been listening to the aphex twin again....

gloop, gloop, zzzzzaaaaaaaaammmmmmmzzzzzzoooooooobbbbbbbbb, glip, bipbipbipbip.

    Public Enemy - Yo bum rush the show
    The all - This Natins saving grace
    
    Hmmm
    
    mikef

    Garbage - Vow
    Helium - Skeleton
    Cardinal - Dream figure
    Grifters - Slow day for the cleaner
    Peepshow - Inevitably
    Puressence - I suppose
    
    
    Christophe 

   >> How many live albums do Pink Floyd need to release, one for each studio
   >> album?
    
    Studio albums  = 18
    Live albums = 2
    
    Your figures are somewhat awry.
    
    Phil Gill.

    re .84
    
    Phil, how do you count Ummagumma?
    
    Balders

    
    I think we're talking about 'Pink Floyd II' here - ie. without Roger
    Waters. as has already been noted, they are'nt to prolific in their
    output anymore - for seem reason this doesn't bring with it the heaps of
    criticism that another band suffered recently though %^)
    
    G.

    re.84
    
    Studio albums = 13 (2 x soundtracks, one of which is more or less Roger
    Waters solo effort, and Final Cut which is another Waters solo effort.
    Live albums = 3
    Compilations = 2
    
    In the last 11 years Floyd have released 4 albums of which 2 are studio
    and 2 are live, and that is the point I was making.
    
    

re >>>>>for seem reason this doesn't bring with it the heaps of criticism that 
   >>>>>another band suffered recently though 

Might this be because, perhaps, "Second Coming" was nowhere near as good as 
people had hoped, plus it was only their second album.  Floyd have been around 
for a hell of a lot longer, and there is plenty of stuff for fans to listen to 
should they get the urge.  This isn't the case with "another band"!

    
    Yes but, PInk Floyd without Roger Waters are a completely different
    animal, so in 11 years they've only released 2 studio albums, by my
    calculations that gives the Stone Roses another 6 years to release
    their third album - thereby becoming more prolific than the 'new' Pink
    Floyd.
    
    Graham 

errr....right.  Okay.  I'm sure you know what you're talking about....



;-)

    
    Not really Matt, I just think I do %^;
    
    G.

    Ah yes, if we're talking PFII, I agree that they appear to be a right
    mercenary bunch and their studio/live album ratio does bring to mind
    the words "cashing" and "in". When Pink Floyd is mentioned, the current
    version of the band doesn't immediately come to mind ;-)
    
    Phil Gill.

    
    I'm with you on that Phil, at the risk of re-opening an old discussion
    (or was that argument ?) I still reckon the last PF album was 'The
    Final Cut'.....
    
    G

    I beg to differ....
    The Final Cut was more or less all done by Roger, Dave only sang on Not
    Now Jon, and other Floyd members were replaced by session Muso's, or
    were paid on session musicians terms.
    
    I put it to you, members of the Jury that The Final Cut was in fact Roger
    Waters first solo album                                             

    
    I see where the 11 years comes from now then ! I re-used that and then
    thought about it afterwards...
    
    On a similar basis, 'The Wall' would have to be the first Roger Waters
    Solo album then, although the rest of the band played on it they
    apparently 'hadn't got a clue what it was all about' and I'm surprised they
    didn't say this about 'Animals' as well.
    
    Just goes to show wher all the creativity and originality came from eh
    !
    
    Graham$ducking_quickly_off_to_another_Notes_conference_for_a_day_or_two...
    

    Would I really upset people if I said that I thought 'The Final Cut'
    was one of my fave Floyd albums?  
    
    mikef

>    apparently 'hadn't got a clue what it was all about' and I'm surprised they
>    didn't say this about 'Animals' as well.

It's obvious - it's about flying pigs, isn't it?


>    Would I really upset people if I said that I thought 'The Final Cut'
>    was one of my fave Floyd albums?  

"Get your filthy hands off my desert" had me rolling around the floor in
hysterics.

I think it says something about the Waters w***er mentality when
Final Cut, Hitchhiking, and Amused To Death (?) are all used by Hi Fi
shops with acoustically tuned coffee tables to do demonstrations.
More effort spent on presentation than content.

Guy

"You can't have any pudding, unless you eat your meat!"
"How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat!?!"

Makes perfect sense to me, that.  Maybe my parents were in Floyd too, then.

    
    Guy, have you actually _listened_ to 'the Final Cut' ?
    
    Gobsmacked$of_Warrington

    >> I put it to you, members of the Jury that The Final Cut was in fact 
    >> Roger Waters first solo album
    
    Possibly, but it's also the last album to bear the name Pink Floyd, that 
    sounds like Pink Floyd to me.
    
    Phil Gill.

    It also has a Floyd 'feel' to my ears...if you see what I mean.
    
    mikef

    
    And me, and surprise, surprise the common factor is/was Roger Walters !
    
    With Roger Waters they sound like Pink Floyd; without they sound like
    Pink Floyd without Roger Waters...
    
    G.

>    Guy, have you actually _listened_ to 'the Final Cut' ?

More times than I care to remember.  I shared a room with a self-obsessed
manic depressive who played it constantly.  That and "Down Under" by Men
At Work - boy was he wierd.

/g

I still think that Roger Waters *is* Pink Floyd, regardless of the
outcome of the legalities.  Having said that, some people still insist
that 'Floyd went downhill with the `departure' of Syd Barrett...

Chris.

    The Final Cut is a smart! album, don't get me wrong, I also think that
    Momentry Lapse of Reason is unlistenable, except Learning to Fly. I'm
    afraid that I tend to side with those who prefered Syd period Floyd
    (not all of it mind).

    Troublegum - Therapy?
    Sharks Patrol These Waters - Various (Pulp, Paul Weller, Echobelly, The
    					  Fall...amongst others)
    
    & absolutely sod all by Pink Floyd with or without Sid Barrett/Roger
    Waters.
    
    Stuart
    

    The Mix - Kraftwerk (especially "Computerlove")
    
    barry.

    Diamond Head - "Am I Evil?"
    
    

umm...in a kindof surreal way;

Southside Johnny and the Asbury Dukes - Some trumpety/guitary/singy thing
Sugar - Copper Blue
The Alarm - Declaration
b.l.o.w. - Shroomin' at Moles

    Foo Fighters. 	What an amazing album.
    Whiteout 	Bite It. This one's a bit of a grower.
    Prodigy     Music for the Jilted Generation. Interest rekindled by
    Glasto TV appearance.
    Mike Oldfield   Space Movie Soundtrack. cool...
    
    (:^'
    	dickie
     

    re .112
    
    �Mike Oldfield   Space Movie Soundtrack. cool...
    
    'ere, what's this then?
    
    Balders

    Isn't this the thing they did for the 10th Anniv of the moon landing? 
    From what I remember of the tv showing (hazy after 16 years!), it was
    stuff already available?  I didn't think it had been released as such
    tho.
    
    
    

    It's actually the soundtrack to the Space Movie video, which I managed
    to obtain a fair quality tape of. If you haven't seen this film, you
    should it's excellent, some really good shots. The soundtrack is a
    mixture of the studio and classical versions of Hergest Ridge (balanced
    heavily towards the classical), and some off cuts from Incantations
    sessions, and a bit of Ommadawn. If anyone would like to borrow this
    excellent video (an original copy), drop me an E-mail to UKStationery
    @REO. I'll see what I can do.
    				dickie
                                      

    Additions to this week.....tape of promo of new Buffalo Tom album (on
    beggars banquet) and New!(ish) Wonder Stuff album, Live in Manchester
    1991..this is an official soon to be released album.

>>>new Buffalo Tom album

B*st*rd!  Where did you get a promo?  Green River?
I used to get some handy promos from Polydor/Polygram, but my mate left them 
about 6 months ago so the supply dried up.

    re.117
    
    I have a friend who's partner is the manager of a well known and
    several less well known bands, he's got the contacts within the music
    industry, and is a friend of the stars...That is how I get to listen to
    and own some of these promo type albums.

So what's it like?  "Summer" sounds pretty standard Buffs fodder...

    Indeed, it's the usual, brilliantly played, sung, written stuff, is
    there anything wrong with that. (nothing to match Larry or Taillights
    Fade though.)
    		dickie
    

>>>>is there anything wrong with that

'ere!  You looking for a fight or summat!?!

No, I was wondering whether they'd taken another change of direction a la 
Birdbrain.  I yearn for the days of Birdbrain again, even though everything 
since has been just as good (in different ways).

    re.121 Having listened to the album several more times I can say that
    the Toms have only changed style slightly, seeming to be happy with
    the sort of vibe that was going throughout Big Red Letter Day. This one
    has a better production. 

    
    On the deck this week.
    
    "About Time" The Stranglers
    "Lies and Deception" New Stranglers single (released 27th June)
    "Elastica" Album bloody rip off of The Stranglers
    
    " Blue is the Colour" Chelsea FC  Sorry I'm trying to influence 
      my four week old son.
     
    (Digital's last great Stranglers fan)

>>>>"Blue is the Colour" Chelsea FC  Sorry I'm trying to influence my four week 
>>>>old son.

Call the authorities!  Call Esther Rantzen!  Call the loony bin!

    Recent stuff:
    
    Alanis Morrissette - You ought to know
    Crowsdell - Sugar coated
    Lotion - Rock chick
    Filter - Take another
    Wannadies - You and me song
    
    Plus some old stuff I should be embarrassed about now:
    
    Howard Jones - What is love
    A Flock of Seagulls - Spaceage love song
    
    Christophe

    Trisan  Feauring Joji Hirota.
    
    Marvelous
    
    

    BUFFALO TOM - SLEEPY EYED
    Peter

Buffs - Sleepy Eyed
Brand New Heavies - Brother Sister
Wildhearts - Just in Lust (single/EP)

    Massive Attack vs Mad Professor - No Protection.  skanking!
    
    
    mikef

>>>skanking!

Erk!  This is getting too hip for me....I'm off, daddio.

(or in the car over the weekend)

Bruce Springsteen - Tunnel of Love
TransGlobal Underground - International Times
Pat Metheny - We Live Here
Cranberries
Portishead - Dummy
Belly - King
Whale - the LP - anyone 'over there' heard this?

grahame

> Whale - the LP - anyone 'over there' heard this?

Just "hobo-humpin-slobo-babe".  How does the album measure up?


Guy

Er, dunno! My girlfriend's got the album and a 'single' - "Pay for This"? and 
I haven't heard either much. But the album's fascinating - they seem very 
different to me (though I've led a pretty sheltered life recently!), and the 
quality is consistent throughout the album. Worth listening out for.

g

Let's get into this:

As I type I'm listening to 

The Soft Boys - Underwater Moonlight

Also in the pile are:

Transglobal Underground - Dream of 100 Nations
Sheryl Crow - Tuesday Night Music Club
Oasis - Definitely Maybe
Midnight Oil - Earth + Sun + Moon

Al

Today's spins are:

World Of Noise: a compilation which came free with Q.  A few good tracks,
mostly from artists I wouldn't normally notice, Radiohead, Sinead O'Connor,
and Morrisey ("Spring-Heeled Jim" - chilling stuff)

Westbam - bam bam bam (mindless techno)
Page/Plant - No Quarter (the hippy in me struggling to get out)

Guy

Listening to a CD sent to me by an old mate who emmigrated to Canada.  His band 
have released their second CD which is fairly "Hootie and the Blowfish"-ish, 
but nevertheless competent.

"Sleepwalker's Union" by Sleepwalker's Union (grammar faithfully preserved)
"Legend" by Bob Marley
"Wonderful" (It isn't) by Adam Ant 
"Negative one friends" by Done lying down

The early years - Status Quo
Freedom - Neil Young
Mirrorball - Neil Young
Zuma - Neil Young......I sense a trend, here...
Zeitgeist - Levellers (not nearly as bad as the mags would have you believe).
Candy apple grey - Husker Du
Ignorance is Bliss - Toby and the whole truth
Fishing for luckies - The Wildhearts (soon to be released as a proper album)

m.

    Having an 81/82 reminiscence ...
    
    The Jam - The Gift
    The Jam - Extras (B sides etc. lp)
    
    
    13 years on, I still miss them.
    
    Euan

    
    Southpaw Grammar - Morrissey (Absolutely Superb, I cannot praise this
    album highly enough !! ) There may only be 8 tracks but they are all
    blinders. I know that I'll probably take a bit of flak about this but I
    don't care, just go out and buy the album. I promise you will not be
    disappointed !!
    
    His n' Hers - Pulp (Cracking stuff. Looking forward to their new album)
    
    Dodgy - Homegrown (I know it probably seems that I'm always listening
    to this album, probably because I AM !!)
    
    
    Cheers,
    
    
    Ian$i_like_morrissey_and_i_don't_care !!

    A Weapon Called the Word	  - The Levellers
    Clutching at Straws		  - Marillion
    Fables of the Reconstruction  - R.E.M.
    Elements Disk 4		  - Mike Oldfield
    Tubular Bells 2		  - Mike Oldfield
    Copper Blue			  - Sugar
    Whatever			  - Aimee Mann
    Ordinary World		  - Duran Duran
    Zooropa			  - U2
    World of Noise		  - Q Magazine Compilation
    
    Balders

    A spiffingly good song I caught on German TV by a German band(?)
    by the name of Selig. Anyone help with the name of the song, the
    video has band members, and assorted cats (don't laugh, I'm doing 
    my best) jumping around against a backdrop of dreary London office
    buildings.
    
    There,                                         
    
    Barry. 

Yup, rings a bell.  However, we've cut the cable off now, so I doubt whether 
I'll see 'em again unless they "make it big".

    T for Texas - Lynyrd Skynyrd.
    
    Barry