Conference marvin::uk_music

    re-1
    
    It is The Wonderstuffs last ever gig for certain.  There is one EP of
    new material due, possible 'best of' and live lps, and thats it. 
    Unbearable isn't it?
    
    Mikef

    
    Anyone got a phone number for ordering tickets?
    
    Please...
    
    Steve.
    

     <<< Note 1222.2 by 42408::LOAT "Stop throwing those bloody spears!" >>>

    
    Anyone got a phone number for ordering tickets?
    
    Please...
    
    Steve.
    

- I couldn't find an advert for the festival itself, but Stargreen are
advertising tickets for this event.

Stargreen are on 071 734 8932 (or, if you're in the metropolis, 20-21A Argyll
Street, between Oxford circus and Liberty's.)

Neal.

    Anyone going to Phoenix 1995?
    
    I'm going on Saturday because Friday and Sunday feature no bands I
    particulary want to see except, for Velvet Crush (first on Friday)
    Saturday on the other hand, has got EMF, and the double metal onslaught of
    Bodycount and the fantastic Faith No More. Rock!
    
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    Sad term isn't it...... METAL...... YUKK YUK YUK YUK.
    Always reminds me of Spotty poodle perm kids with Bleached Kiku stretch
    jeans and white baseball boots with Whitesnake t shirts on.
    
    On the subject of The Pheonix Festival if anyone does go on the Friday
    try to check out JayPac 'cos my mate's drumming for them.  (They also
    supported East 17 on the UK and European tour)
    
    Nigel B
    

    Having attended said festival on Saturday, I will now attempt to give a
    quick review of the bands playing on the main stage in order of
    appearance....
    
    Pitchshifter	Dull, thuddy metal, all the songs sounded the same,
    totally out of place on the big stage. It was quite amusing when they
    encouraged a stage invasion, loads of people got on stage=power cut
    off, pitchshifter banned from all future Mean Fiddler events/venues.
    
    Shootyz Groove	Not bad easy to listen to, if deriviative hip hop
    types.
    
    Gallon Drunk	Unlistenable. A lot of people on stage does not an
    interesting set make, I have never undstood how this band have become
    so popular, must really get the pints in when music journalists are
    around. (see also Nick Cave)
    
    EMF			Excellent return to form, best I have seen them
    play in a long time. Free from the shackles of record company
    contractural obligation, they played an up set filled with all the hits
    and the catchier stuff from the last two albums. They did play I'm a
    Believer sans Vic and Bob but it still sounded great, as did the new
    extremely  poppy new song.
    
    Ice T/Bodycount	A 2 hour set from Ice T started with his rap
    incarnation and finished with the none more metal Bodycount. This was
    definately my highlight of the day. Ice T is an excellent showman,
    getting the crowd on his side straight away and performing stuff form
    throughout his career, one of the more articulate rap artists he kept
    the banter unobtrusive but amusing. The second half of his set featured
    the excellent Bodycount, a powerful rock band who unlike Pitchshifter
    and Paradise lost kept it diverse and interesting, except for the
    pointless 3 minute drum solo by the least technical drummer in rock
    step forward...Beatmaster V.
    
    Paradise Lost	Yawn. Substandard dull metal. Rubbish.
    
    Terrorvision	I really wanted them to be good, but they were
    absolutely terrible, like they weren't bothered. They played
    the hits which I really tried to be bothered to listen to but in the
    end I just didn't care. They should never be forgiven for their cover
    of Kraftwerk's The Model. Never again.
    
    Public Enemy	Very good indeed. Having been warned that PE were
    light on music and heavy on waffle I approached their set with some
    trepidation. My fears were groundless as they put forawrd an excellent
    show, their music came across as powerfully as it comes across on
    record, playing tracks from throughout their career with real vitality.
    Chuck D only veered dangerously close into talking b*ll*cks once, and
    Flavour Flav never stopped, but that's part of his charm. I would
    thoroughly recommend them to anyone...but Chuck D said that Phoenix was
    their penultimate live perfomance anywhere, which is great shame.
    
    Faith No More	This should have been the highlight but I was
    severely dissapointed in it all. Perhaps they have been playing
    stadiums for too long, but this was nowhere near as good as I've seen
    them. When they were on form, it gelled, otherwise they floundered
    around. They weren't terrible, just average. Mike Patton certainly
    didn't let the side down when it came to being disgusting however,
    choosing to urinate on stage, to the delight of the several million
    girls who were watching. The only highlights were an excellent 'Easy'
    and a brilliant cover of 'Glory Box' (honestly).

err....Mike Patton singing; "For I have been a tempturesssssss, too lawunngg.."

Weird image...

    
    Downright scary more like.  I was going to try and screw up the upgrade
    this weekend so I could be on the European mainland for the Zeebrugge
    rock festival to see FNM - don't think I'll bother now!
    
    C.

�    Downright scary more like.  I was going to try and screw up the upgrade
�    this weekend so I could be on the European mainland for the Zeebrugge
�    rock festival to see FNM - don't think I'll bother now!
    
	Sorry, what was that? You don't think you'll bother to "screw up"
	(can I say that?) the upgrade. Ha Ha Ha. Funniest thing I've read 
	all day.

re .9

Don't worry, he'll screw it up anyway.

    
    re:.9,.10
    
    You are, as always, too kind, my dear, dear friends.
    
    Lots of kissy and huggy stuff.
    
    Cwis.

Anyone got any details on this years Phoenix???


Phone number for tickets?

Dates? 

Names?

Having been last year (bowie was excellent, as were
massive attack, JTQ and most of the rest, including 
the weather) and the year before - I have to agree
Faith No More covering Glory Box was a classy moment... 

I heard a rumour Faith No More are headlining the 
main stage one night again.....    




Jo
(who's got her Glastonbury tickets but wants to make it 
a double bill this year) 

    Its all inthis weeks NME, which I don't have to hand at the
    moment...theres probably a web site devoted to it somewhere.
    
    Mikef (sulking at not going to Glasters this year...)

>.theres probably a web site devoted to it somewhere.

Cooo.. if anyone finds it let me know, I've mailed amnesty, 
virgin (they had one for last year) , all sorts, I've searched 
on altavista I've a begging request on my web-home page 
and nothing so far :-) 

Well, I went out and bought the NME and since I'd typed it 
all in to mail to a friend I thought I might as well post it 
here in case anyone else is interested ....

-------------------------------phoenix 97------------------------------


17th 18th 19th and 20th July


Main Stage:
thurs:
Black Grape, Skunk Anansie, Fun lovin Criminals, De la soul, agent provocateur
fri: 
the charlatans, lightning seeds, shed seven, teenage fanclub, the wannadies, 
beth orton, morcheeba, hurricane#1, sussed
sat:
jamiroquai, gabrielle, warreng, abc, olive, lamb, the prisoners, courduroy, 
original son
sun: 
david bowie, orbital, texas, faith no more, billy bragg, 3 colours red, 
catatonia, apollo 440, arkarna

radio one dance stage:  (I assume this replaces megadog dance tent)
thurs: ministry of sound:
rulin, adeva, jazzy m, frankie foncett, jocelyn brown, jon march 
friday: ministry of sound:
northern exposure, sasha & john digweed (4 1/2 set), blue amazon (exclusive live 
set), jools, leefisher, The unknown djs: danny howells, phil sagar, exclusive 
live act tbc
sat: ministry of sound:
frisky, pete tong, orbital, osilar, seb fontaine, paul jackson, heaven
sun: metalheadz sunday session:
groove rider, fabio, randall, kemistry & storm, peshay, doc scott, goldie, mc 
cleaveland watkiss

the guardian stage: 
thurs: 
spiritualised, stragelove, zorkys zygotic mynci, madder rose, soul coughing, 
warm jets
fri: 
rollins band, republica, lionrock, redd kross, embrace, travis, gold blade, 
smaller, broadcast, mogwai catherine, dandy warhols
sat:
aphex twins, sneaker pimps, 60ft dolls, subcircus, laika, the candyskins, david 
devant & his spiritual wife, linoleum, stereophonics, one inch punch, jolt
sun: 
sinead o'connor, my life story, drugstore, luna, ursei yatsura, 18 wheeler, 
arnold, mantaray, baby fox, london community gospel choir

Jazz cafe stage:
isaac hayes, fela anikulapo kuti & egypt 80, dr john, gabrielle, james taylor 
quartet, akasha, billsherman, black star liner, cheikh lo, comatose, courtney 
pine, d-influence, dana bryant, dub syndicate, ernest ranglin, groove 
collective, groove connection, finley quaye, james hunter band, jhelisa, keziah 
jones, kinetic, lewis taylor, luciano, project 23, nitin sawhney, ragga and the 
jack magic orchestra, terry caller, urban species, the watts prophets, jazz 
cafe's messin around club night (thurs fri and sat 11pm - 2am) djs russel 
dewbury, chico mallo, gip dammone, pete isaacs, chris goss, resident djs: ian 
and rob plus live jazz dancing from the jazz co-tech dancers, comperes normski 
patrick forge. 

mean fiddler stage:
the specials,.... and loads of others including transglobal underground but I 
don't have the fingerpower left for all of them..... 

dr martens stage: loads more bands

comedy stage yet to be announced: 

the village: all the usual stuff including of course Hugh Jart stuff which I 
*AM* going to do this time!!!! and motorbikes/fire engines healing area, and a 
circus or two, oh and the japanese Taiko Drummers (so we saved 20 quid not going 
to see them at the anvil :-) 


cinema, bungee jumping, fairground, food stalls, bars, bazaar etc etc etc as 
usual.. 


		w/end tickets 70 quid. 


credit card hotline   0541   500 044 (24 hour) 
london line 0171 3440044
wayahead  0115 912 9000
stargreen 0171 734 8932

Entertainment til 2am - main arena open all night. 

blah blah coach services, blah, postal tickets 70-50 each plus 3-50 for reg. 
post for 4 or more from dept NME phoenix 1997, po box 1707, london, nw10 4lw
payable to phoenix festival ltd including sae and daytime phone number. 


mean fiddler info line: 0181 963 0940

 

I don't believe it!

The day after I get all the details all the 
headlines are how the local council is going 
to ban the festival!!!! Too many people turned up 
last year. 


I really don't know why councils behave like this. 

If they're going to ban the damn thing then why not announce
it a month or two after the last one not a month or two before 
it when the lineup's been announced and everything booked up. 

I can only assume two things either someone on the 
council is after donations from Mean Fiddler since they probably 
can't afford to have it not happen or it's all a damn setup by 
Mean Fiddler because tickets haven't sold quite quick enough
that or the local council are incompetent gits who really deserve 
shooting. 

    The council probably left it this late in order to panic the Mean
    Fiddler into giving them more money...I can't see it actually being
    cancelled.  Didn't a similar thing happen with last years Reading
    Festival?
    
    m

Yes, but they haven't just refused them a license - they've refused to grant them the license 
they applied for this year which is for a 50% increase in capacity over lastt year. Perhaps if 
they'd applied for the same as last year first (and earlier) they'd have got it; they could then 
have applied for the increase later. As it is, I'm sure their revised application for 30,000 
instead of 45,000 will be accpeted, but how many ofd the bands will have pulled out by then 
?

G.

    Yes, but they haven't just refused them a license - they've refused to
    grant them the license they applied for this year which is for a 50% 
    increase in capacity over last year. Perhaps if they'd applied for the 
    same as last year first (and earlier) they'd have got it; they could then 
    have applied for the increase later. As it is, I'm sure their revised
    application for 30,000 instead of 45,000 will be accpeted, but how many 
    of the bands will have pulled out by then ?
    
    G.