Conference marvin::uk_music

> - The second side of Bowie's 'Heroes', especially the heartbreaking
>   saxophone bit.
    
    Are you sure it's not the aptly titled "Low" you're referring to Rod?
    I love that sax solo, you can almost float to it ('kin ell shut up
    lad!!!) It's certainly not the sort of thing you'll hear after 
    "Roll Out the Barrel" at a wedding. Marvellous though.  
    
>  second side of 'Closer' for when you hit rock bottom.

    I have this too. It's dreadful.  
    
    But the bestest song to relieve the doldrums has to be Louis 
    Armstrong's "Wonderful World". 
    
    barry. 
    
    
    
    

Pink Floyd - The Final Cut.

Nothing ever seems so bad after listening to this GREAT album.


Rupert

    
    Anything by Paul Weller especially Down In the tube station at midnight
    wonderful song by the best singer/songwriter ever...
    
    Neil.
    
    

    
    The Frank and Walters
    
    They write songs purely to cheer people up.
    
    GrEg...

"I fancy the girl in 4C but she doesn't know I exist" by Ride

"Bitter and Twisted" by the Wonder Stuff

"I'm going to lie down in my room with a full bottle of cider" 
by Laughing Lou Reed

and anything by Tori Amos

    "The Chauffeur" by Duran Duran.

    
    Surely It must be almost anything by  'Laughing' Lenny Cohen ?
    ....after a good wallow in that ,life seems positively,utterly
    and wonderfully attractive!!!!
    
    .....But it must be followed by something like KLF/White Room 
    Album at full volume or Utah Saints/Something Good to get the
    blood coursing through the veins again!!!
    
    Sandie.../

    Hmm.....this one could run and run !!
    
    
    
    Pete Atkin             - Master of the Revels
    Pete Atkin             - Honky Tonk Train Blues
    Kinks                  - Village Green Preservation Society
    Gruppo Sportivo        - Beep Beep Love
    Wreckless Eric         - (I'd Go) The Whole Wide World
    Neil Young             - Like a Hurricane
    Frank Zappa            - Yo Mama
    
    To name but a few tune tappers that you can tap your tootsies too in
    troubled times.
    
    H

    Also Ferron, and "Ship Going Down" by Lida Husik, and "Farewell,
    Farewell" and "Meet on the Ledge" by Fairport Convention, and some
    other stuff but I'm too depressed to talk about it.
    
    Ray
    
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    Yes, when I'm depressed I only enjoy listening to depressing music.  I
    also read depressing books, watch depressing movies, talk depressing
    talk, and drink depressants.  It makes me feel better, no doubt 'bout
    it.  I guess 'cause I don't feel insulted....
    
    When I'm happy I listen-to / read / watch the same things, only then I
    laugh cruelly at the poor depressed slobs responsible for 'em.
    
    The company I love at Those Very Special Times includes:
    
    	- "Music for a New Society" and (if I'm feeling more active) "Slow
    	  Dazzle" by John Cale
    	- Syd Barrett's solo records
    	- John Dowland
    	- Rockin' sockin' Arnie Schoenberg
    	- "Love Will Tear Us Apart" by Joy Division
    	- "Candy Apple Gray" by H�sker D�
    	- "Tonight's the Night" by Neil Young
    	- "Hokey Pokey" by Richard and Linda Thompson
    	- Poor Daniel Johnston �a va sans dire
    	- "Dark Room" and "When My First Wife Left Me" by John Lee Hooker
    	- "Strange Weather" by Marianne Faithful
    	- "Sister Lovers" by Big Star
    	- The side of my Everly Brothers collection with "So Sad When Good
    	  Love Goes Bad"
    	- "He's Got You" by Patsy Cline
    	- "Astral Weeks" by Van Morrison (or "Veedon Fleece" if I want to
    	  get better)
    	- "Lost Highway" by Hank Williams
    
    And many many more.
    
    Ms. Ery

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    I've been listening to the flipside of Barbara Manning's "Forced
    Exposure" single about three times a day. The title doesn't make sense
    (something like "Fire on a Ladder") but the song has a long mournful
    tune, a booming drum and the following lyrics:
    
        I wish my letter would lose its way
          since the thought of us has died
        But it can't fade as fast as we
          pretend it never did arrive.
    
        First persistence
    	Then distance.
        It doesn't matter.
    	I've been sadder.
    
    And so forth. Like her solo album (in which the only upbeat song is a
    tribute to the romance of Mark E. Smith and Brix), highly recommended
    to take lithium to.
    
    Also I saw a real Galaxy 500 the other day at a Santa Clara shopping
    center. It was pink and was driven by a real little old lady.
    
    Rusting Debris

I find I can get a real downer from this lot...

Sisters of Mercy		First, Last and Always
Fields of the Nephilim		Earth Inferno, Elizium
Black Sabbath		
All About Eve
Pink Floyd			The Wall, Final Cut

    Bauhaus  :: Bella Lugose's (Sp) Dead.
    
    
    Pass the razor..!!!!!!

So Ray's done it already and better - might have known. I'm glad the
rathole into cheerful songs was quickly ended, since really I'm talking
about music which reflects a severely non-optimal mood rather than music
which seeks to change it. Who wants a dance beat when they're down.

I too was wondering about the lack of the Smiths. 'Every day is just like
Sunday' would be a good starting point (or is that from the man solo?).
Of course the trouble with the Smiths is that there were always too many
words.


Rod

    
    The Smiths never were particularly depressing - most of their songs are
    pretty upbeat (although maybe not lyrically).
    
    "Leave me alone" by New Order from "Power Corruption and Lies" always
    does it for me.
    
    Trevor

    
    Re.13;
    
    "Everyday is like sunday" Was by Morrissey on his own. And jolly
    depressing it is too.
    
    GrEg....
    

    The Movement album by New Order. [ Thats why I bought it!]

    Slowdive are made for depressives but that doesn't meamn I don't like 
    them, some John Martyn tunes also - esp.Grace And Danger and One World.
    

    Any Van der Graaf Generator, especially Godbluff.
    
    Bob

    
    For 'Girlfriend' type depressions, The Nine Inch Nails' Pretty Hate
    Machine is good.

First choice goes to anything by Michael Franks, Chick Corea or Keith Jarrett, 
who remind one just how wonderful one really is. 

And why not:

- W C Handy, "St Louis Blues", for that sinking feeling:
     I hate to see the evenin' sun go down

- Blind Lemon Jefferson, "Matchbox Blues"

- Bessie Smith doing "Trouble In Mind"

- Billie Holiday, especially when she plays ukelele and tap dances

- Charlie Parker, especially those endless re-takes when he's can't honk for 
  falling down

- Elvis, "Heartbreak Hotel" (for bottomless misery done by John Cale) or when
  there's trouble in the home, try "Jailhouse Rock":
     If you can't find a woman use a wooden chair ...

- Howlin' Wolf, "Killin' Floor"

- Patsy Cline, especially "Ain't That A Laugh" (the way she sings "HA HAAA... 
  Ain't that a laaaaaaauuugh") or  "Walkin' After Midnight":
     I go out walkin', after midnight, out in the moonlight, 
     just hopin' you may be 
     somewhere a walkin', in the moonlight, searchin' for me ..."  

- Otis Redding, "Dock Of The Bay" of course

- Buffy Sainte Marie, "Cod'ine":
     I feel like I'm  dyin' an' I WISH I was deeeeeeeaaaad ...
     If I live till tomorrow it'll be a long taaaaaaam
     an' I wheel and I fall and I'll die on cod'ine
     an' it's reeeal, and it's reaaaaall one more taaaaaaaaaam

- John Lee Hooker, "I Cover The Waterfront"

- Rolling Stones doing "Little Red Rooster"

- Julie London, "Cry me a River"

- Nina Simone singing "Strange Fruit"

- Velvet Underground, particularly "Heroin"

- Any German band

- For the Australians in the audience, Patsy Biscoe, or Sister Janet Mead doing 
  "The Lord's Prayer", or Johnny Young and the Young Talent Time Young Talent 
  Team doing "Close your eyes and I'll kiss you ..."

- Ian Dury, "Reasons To Be Cheerful" or "Manic Depression":
     Life is just a bloody rush
     a ruddy blush ...
     Life is just a hole full of soap
     a soul full of hope ...

- The Gun Club

- The Triffids:
     I packed my bags, left a note on the fridge
     then I drove off the edge of the Tarillup bridge...

- Kylie "Lucky Lucky Lucky" Minogue
 
- A bottle of Thunderbird and about four fifths of all classical music

    
    Hmmm.. how about "Pornography" by The Cure (the track '100 years' in
    particular), a real barrel of laughs. Actually, the previous album to
    that was pretty depressing stuff too (can't remember what it was called
    - answers on a postcard).
    
    Andy

    Thinking about it, I wonder if its possible to put Chelsea's current 
    form to music.
    
    
    
    
    

    RE- .21  Would that be Faith?

    
    I used to use the Smith a lot when I was down, to pick me up....
    
    The theory was while things for me might have been bad, it sure was
    good to know that someother poor sod had it worse than me.
    
    recently I find it very uplifting to delve into my collection and play
    something that I havent played for years, as nostalgia can be a bit of
    a pick me up.
    
    Im working away from home at the moment and recently bought a pair of
    speakers for my Walkman...there no better way of recharging the
    batteries than a long soak in a hot bath with the Cocteau
    Twins..partiularly 'Heaven or Las Vegas' or Philip Glass 'Glassworks'.
    
    A pat on the back for the man who mentioned Wreckless Eric a few notes
    ago....
    
    Paul

    Nick Drake
    Patsy Cline
    Joy Division
    
    _Vic

    I was gonna mention Faith, Pornography and Charlotte Sometimes by the
    Cure, and the first Banshees album and First and Last and Always by the
    Sisters of Mercy.
    
    Neither the Smiths nor the JAMC have ever succeeded in sounding
    depressing to me. I'm that kind of guy.
    
    Piers

On this theme I made a tape, and here's a track listing:

Sugarcubes, very very last bit of "Life's too Good"
U2, the unforgettable fire (from eponymous album)
Magazine, the thin air ("secondhand daylight")
J&M Chain, darklands (from eponymous album)
Young Gods, dame chance ("tv sky")
MBV, lose my breath ("isn't anything")
Sugar, a good idea ("copper blue")
Stone Roses, elizabeth my dear ("Stone Roses")
Ride, chrome waves ("going blank again")
Pearl Jam, jeremy ("ten")
Joy Division, love will tear us apart, these days (from eponymous 12")

Spiritualized, take your time ("lazer guided melodies")
The The, giant ("soul mining")
New Order, sooner than you think, sub-culture ("lowlife")
Robert Wyatt, shipbuilding (from eponymous 12")
Bowie, V2 Schneider, neuk�ln ("heroes")
Young Marble Giants, n.i.t.a. ("colossal youth")
Joy Division, heart and soul ("closer")


Re .25, see .9, and in future, do try to keep up.


Rod

When you are depressed...

...listen to The Cure's "Pornography" if you want to turn your depression 
into an even deeper one. (I gave this album away.)

...listen to The Cure "Faith" if you want to turn your depression into 
melancholy. (Still their best album.)

...listen to the Smiths if you want to turn your depression into a smile. (I 
own virtually all their albums)

...listen to "The Beautiful South" if you want to turn your depression into 
a laugh. (I own all their albums.)

FeliX   ;-)

    Not as left of centre as some in here but Broocie's "Racing in 
    the Streets" sure is a soundtrack as good as any for dem
    moments of depression. 
    
    barry.

One of my favorite songs which no one has mentioned is (the?) "Disease" by
Echo and The Bunnymen. Their whole 2nd album is pretty depressing.

Some of the Chameleons can also be pretty down.

Give me "Decades" by Joy Division anytime though!

Ed

I suppose it depends if you want to be cheered up or not. Anyway..
my choice would be PIL's first album, turned up loud enough to
annoy anyone in the adjoining room, naturally.

Dave

    >One of my favorite songs which no one has mentioned is (the?)
    >"Disease" by Echo and The Bunnymen. Their whole 2nd album is pretty 
    >depressing.
    
    AH, Yes. I used to use this one a lot for that purpose.  Early Bunnymen
    were great for depression.  (Please don't try to cheer me up!)  Reminds
    me of high school.
    
    -Vicki
    
    Also: later Japan

    I always find the Smiths totally uplifting.  For depression, side
    two of Closer., and Nine Million Rainy Days by JAMC.  Tom Waits also
    can tickle the misery bone.
    
    Mikef

    
    "Blasphemous Rumours" by Depeche Mode. Fairly depressing huh ?
    
    Mark
    

    Surprised no one's mentioned Lou Reed's meisterpiece - the awesomely
    bleak "Berlin" from 1973.  Also, Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of The Moon"
    is hardly the ultimate party-party album, is it?  Oh, and The The's
    "Soul Mining" is another real downer, more for the incredibly 'down'
    lyrics, than the actual music itself.
    
    - Dougie

    "Berlin" hardly ever gets played these days. I find "The Kids"
     just too much. I believe that the sounds of children crying 
     in the song were arranged by the producer (Ezrin?). Legend
     has it that he brought home a tape recorder, locked his two
     children in their bedroom and told them their mother had left
     and was'nt coming back. 'stard.
    
     barry.     

    RE-1: The second SM album (the blue one) is one of the gloomiest I've
    ever heard - guaranteed depression
    
    RE-2: Are you the stray PTFC supporter from BALZAC::FOOTBALL ?&^?
    
    Ray

    How about music for different moods?
    
    I like "angry" music esp. if I'm drinking.
    
    Henry Rollins,Nirvana ect.

    Re. .37 - sorry Ray, no PTFC interest here.  Perhaps you're thinking of
    Dougie Nisbet?
    
    - Dougie (Robb)

    "Berlin" always gave me the giggles.  So I only listened to it when I
    felt like giggling.
    
    Then "The Blue Mask" came out and it also made me giggle, especially
    the song about Delmore Schwartz, and it turned out I really didn't need
    more than one gigglesome album by Lou Reed.
    
    Ray

    
    If you want to be really depressed....
    
    Anything by Nick Cave.... particularly "Kicking against the Pricks" 
    
    - I'm allowed to say it - he took the title from a piece in the Bible 
    anyway.
    
    Elaine.

    The live version of Bad by U2.  One morning I played it 10 times in a
    row.
    
    Lorna
    

    Death's Diary by Marc Almond. 

    
    
    Re: 1105.42
    
    >>The live version of Bad by U2.  One morning I played it 10 times in
    >>a row.
    
    >>Lorna
    
    SECONDED!!
    
    Debs.
    
    

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