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Conference marvin::uk_music

Title:The UK Music Conference
Notice:Welcome (back) to UK_MUSIC on node MARVIN.
Moderator:RDGENG::CROOK
Created:Mon Mar 28 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1381
Total number of notes:39269

1022.0. "Why are Erasure CRAP???" by PEKING::BARKERN (A Four Foot Prune) Thu May 21 1992 14:13

    This topic is designed to upset all Erasure Fans,  The simple answer to
    the question is......
    
    
    Because they are!!!
    
    Nigel
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1022.1NEWOA::SAXBYVote for Perot : He's got $3B!Thu May 21 1992 14:368
    
    Ah, but why? Is it a contrived attempt to make money?
    
    After all Vince Clarke has undoubted talent.
    
    Mark
    
    PS Actually I _quite_ like some Erasure stuff.
1022.2PEKING::BARKERNA Four Foot PruneThu May 21 1992 14:499
    I think that I'll form a new movement....
    
    
    E A S T..
    
    
     Erasure Are Stupid Tossers....
    
    
1022.3SUBURB::WAITEGMILLWALL PRIDE OF SOUTH LONDONThu May 21 1992 15:021
    I'll be in that.
1022.4Liverpool Pride Of MerseysideSUBURB::HAWKESMThu May 21 1992 15:356
    
    I don't want to know why Erasure are crap - They just are...
    
    The question should be - Why are Erasure STILL AROUND ?
    
    Hawkesy.
1022.5ooooh sometimes...VOGON::ATWALdream out loudThu May 21 1992 15:447
Well, this topic _is_ full of reasoned argument about Erasure...

I think they make excellent pop music, certainly far more original than the
majority of their chart peers.


...Art
1022.6Odd?NEWOA::SAXBYVote for Perot : He's got $3B!Thu May 21 1992 15:537
    �                    -< Liverpool Pride Of Merseyside >-
    
    Do Erasure come from Liverpool then?
    
    Equally, what else is there on Merseyside, except Liverpool?
    
    Mark
1022.7Liverpool aint got nothing to do with Erasure!SUBURB::HAWKESMThu May 21 1992 16:4115
    
    > Equally, what else is there on Merseyside, except Liverpool ?
    
    - The slightly less talented Everton FC springs to mind !
    
    Hawkesy.
    
    
    
    P.S. I don't think Erasure come from Liverpool. I was just plugging my
         favourite footie team.
    
    P.P.S. I have just this minute been informed that the 2 male members of
           Erasure are in fact gay !!! - Am I right ?
    
1022.8RUTILE::LETCHERCool before drinkingThu May 21 1992 16:424
    Why the triple exclamation mark? Is there something wrong with being
    gay?
    
    Piers
1022.9ARRODS::WHITEHEADJWhy&#039;s everybody SHOUTING?Thu May 21 1992 16:471
    Well, Vince Clarke is an Essex man.  I don't know about Andy Bell.
1022.10Careful!ARRODS::OHAGANBSet The House AblazeThu May 21 1992 16:574
    And being gay (in Mr Bell's case) only compounds their (alleged)
    crapness? Please explain yourself, on second thoughts preferably
    not. 
         
1022.11And Nelson Mandella's black!!!!NEWOA::SAXBYVote for Perot : He&#039;s got $3B!Thu May 21 1992 16:586
    � P.P.S. I have just this minute been informed that the 2 male members of
    �        Erasure are in fact gay !!! - Am I right ?
    
    This is a wind-up, right?
    
    Mark
1022.12meanwhile back to the music (sic)YUPPY::PANESA star-spangled spaniel in the worksThu May 21 1992 17:163
	 I have it on good authority that Dame Edna Everage is a man.

	 Stuart
1022.13JURA::PELAZ::MACFADYENThe last train left an hour agoThu May 21 1992 17:2511
>    P.P.S. I have just this minute been informed that the 2 male members of
>           Erasure are in fact gay !!! - Am I right ?

If you'd read the note that started all this (1018.71) more carefully, you'd
have seen them being described as "nancy boys". Or does that need to be
explained too?

But really, this topic is a waste of diskspace.


Rod
1022.14Nothing wrong with gays - means more women for us!SUBURB::HAWKESMThu May 21 1992 17:3812
    
    Lighten up, its only a bit of harmless fun. I mean no-one really likes
    Erasure do they ?.
    
    if you do then don't read this note. Anyway it wasn't my idea to start
    this note in the fist place !
    
    Hawkesy.
    
    P.S. They really are gay though aren't they ?. Or have I been wrongly
         informed ?
    
1022.15PEKING::BARKERNA Four Foot PruneThu May 21 1992 17:4212
    Erasure are a waste of disc space,  plastic,  tape,  rubber,  time, 
    air,  etc.............
    
    The only reason that Erasure still exist is that Vince Clark has
    finally found someone who is as crap as him!!!!  All the others he has
    worked with were far too talented and consequently showed him up.
    
    ie Alison Moyet,  Fergal Sharkey,   in fact Depeche Mode are the only
    people that were crapper than him that's why he left them.
    
    
    Nigel
1022.16Harmless fun it aint.ARRODS::OHAGANBSet The House AblazeThu May 21 1992 17:5310
   re. 14
    
   -<Nothing wrong with gays - means more women for us!>-
    
    Typed in your best leery pub voice no doubt. And I'd imagine your 
    the sort of chap who could "convert" the odd lesbian or two?
    
    barry.
    
    
1022.17BAHTAT::SUMMERFIELDCAut Tunc, Aut NunquamThu May 21 1992 17:5615
    re .13
    
    � But really, this topic is a waste of diskspace.
    
    I couldn't agree more. I'm sure that if everyone tried, we could have a
    note 'Why are XXXXXXXX crap?' for every band around. It appears to be
    pointless and bigoted. Some notes slag off bands whilst being fun,
    namely the various tosh notes, this one just seems to be for
    opinionated outburst. If you like that kind of thing, please go to
    EF92.
    
    Balders
    
    (Unimpressed of Leeds)
    
1022.18PEKING::BARKERNA Four Foot PruneThu May 21 1992 18:0717
    You're just pissed off 'cos you've got everything that they've ever
    released,  and you're scared that someone will find out.  What's more
    up until reading this note you thought that they were quite good.
    
    What's more this entire conference is a waste of disc space,  not a
    bloody serious arty naffing farty "serious" bloody discussion on Music
    bby people (with the exception of some) who don't know a bleeding thing
    about it!!!  So whyhave it ?  because we all need a bit of fun,  and
    most of us do nothing all day so we skive off in here pretending to
    write mails to people.
    
    If you want to discuss chart bleeding music "seriously" then you all
    want your heads examining.
    
    
    BTW this is a serious note,  I would really like to know why Erasure
    are so Bleeding CRAP!!!!!!!
1022.19I get a feeling we're becoming unpopular...SUBURB::HAWKESMThu May 21 1992 18:285
    
    RE .18 - Well said mate !.
    
    Hawkesy.
    
1022.20KERNEL::SMITHERSJLiving on the culinary edge....Thu May 21 1992 18:5817
    
     Re .18
    
     My advice to you is once you have read this note, is to type exit and 
     then delete entry uk_music.  If you still want to waste your time 
     writing crappy notes, add SOAPBOX instead and spout out drivel until
     you bore yourself silly.
    
     Yours "in fun", julia
    
     BTW, Erasure maybe crap but they earn tons of money for being crap,
     so why change?
    
    
    
    
 
1022.21Here we go Here we go....................SCOAYR::SROBERTSONFri May 22 1992 09:198
    re.-18 
    
    Another "well said mate" vote - some people are very TOUCHY and if you
    can't have a bit of fun?A little stirring is also good fun.
    
    re.-19 do you know any lesbians that need converted - wouldn't mind
    trying.
    
1022.23NEWOA::SAXBYVote for Perot : He&#039;s got $3B!Fri May 22 1992 10:0223
    
    So, ok, with a nod in the direction of Mr Hawkes (who doesn't care why), 
    what is it that some of you think is so crap about Erasure?
    
    The following is a list of things which make them better than a lot of 
    other groups :-
    
    i) Their material is their own, not stolen from other records or simply
       naff cover versions.
    
    ii) They make an attempt to sing (ok, you may not like the singer's
    voice, but at least he doesn't talk about how big his dick is and how
    much coke he's sold today!).
    
    iii) They've been around a long time, so they obviously have something
    which makes people go back and buy a second album/single whatever after
    the first.
    
    iv) It seems that paranoid homophobics don't like 'em.
    
    Discuss (this means talk about, not wade in with infantile insults).
    
    Mark
1022.24PEKING::BARKERNA Four Foot PruneFri May 22 1992 11:2527
    Material is their own?  ABBA covers were in fact written by Erasure
    were they,  songs bought from publishing co's. are their own are they.
    
    Sing does he?  MMMM you know alot don't you!!!!
    
    Play keyboards does he?   Next you'll be telling me that they really
    Vince has got a degree in one fingered piano playing.
    
    No mate I've always considered Erasure to be a complete load of
    contrived shit.  As is most of the British Pop scene.  It's just a
    shame that many people can't see that they are being totaly led up the
    garden path.  You lot will fall for anything if it's stuck infront of
    you by the bloody Radio Stations.  Next you'll be saying that Gary
    Davies was not a naff D.J. 
    
    
    
    SUCKERS
    
    
    After all,  You took this bloody note seriously.  
    
    
    How do you feel????? 
    
    Nigel
    
1022.25Remind me to catch your group sometime.NEWOA::SAXBYVote for Perot : He&#039;s got $3B!Fri May 22 1992 11:4210
    
    Re .24
    
    � Discuss (this means talk about, not wade in with infantile insults).
    
    How do I feel? 
    
    Totally vindicated? :^)
    
    Mark
1022.26PEKING::BARKERNA Four Foot PruneFri May 22 1992 12:0322
    Catch my group at anyone of the following venues:
    
    Tuesday 26th May 1992  The Greyhound  Reading
    
    Friday 29th May 1992   Kings Arms  Stokenchurch
    
    Thursday 4th June 1992  The Eagle  Reading
    
    Saturday 6th June  1992 Fat Jacks  Grazeley Green.
    
    (these are off the top of my head,  but there are more and I will post
    them when my diary is here.)
    
    Please come along.  Live music,   played live and excellently!!
    Plus no Erasure covers!!!!!
    
    
    (We can't work them out because they are far too complex for us!!! ;*))
    
    Nigel
    
    
1022.27Tottenham Court Rd.MINDER::GLYNNPA young fart at heartFri May 22 1992 12:201
    
1022.28BAHTAT::SUMMERFIELDCAut Tunc, Aut NunquamFri May 22 1992 13:5315
    .26 � Please come along.  Live music,   played live and excellently!!
    							    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Such modesty ;-)
    
    BTW, if you don't like a band's music, fine. If you don't like their
    image, fine. I agree with you, I don't particularly like Erasure. I
    tend to find the music irritatingly simplistic and superficial. Mainly
    because of Vince Clarkes reliance on sequencers and arpeggiators which
    tends to produce thin boppy tunes. And anyone who uses the word
    'Fishes' in a song deserves criticism :-). But keep the homophobia out
    of it. And comments about curing lesbians are just purile.
    
    Balders
    
1022.30Why are they so special.PEKING::BARKERNA Four Foot PruneFri May 22 1992 14:2719
    I'm not homophibic in the slightest,  but it is strange that as soon as
    someone talks about necrophilia we all have a laugh.  If you look at a
    girl/boy younger than you you're a pedofile, and everyone giggles.  So
    why is it that gays should be let off from this sort of ridicule. 
    There are too many taboos in the world,  I for one hold very little in
    so much esteem that I won't take the piss,  but at the end of the day
    that is all  I'm doing.  Just the same as people take the piss out of
    me and countless others.  It's not my fault that Andy Bell is a
    "screaming bender, with no more right to live on Gods clean earth than
    a weasel"  
    
    Why shouldn't we say the word gay - are they ashamed of it and try
    hiding under the "Oh God you must be homophobic"..  
    
    Equal rights for Gays.....Bollocks  lets have equal rights for all
    humans not just gays.  
    
    Nigel
    
1022.31PEKING::BARKERNA Four Foot PruneFri May 22 1992 14:305
    P.S.   I've never once mentioned curing lesbians.  I don't want to cure
    them,  I want to watch them!!!!!  And if any man out there doesn't feel
    the same,  well they must be gay.!!!! ;-)
    
    Nigel
1022.32If the cap fits!NEWOA::SAXBYVote for Perot : He&#039;s got $3B!Fri May 22 1992 14:374
    
    Did anyone accuse _YOU_ specifically of this? :^)
    
    Mark
1022.33PEKING::BARKERNA Four Foot PruneFri May 22 1992 14:4611
    re -1
    
    No noone specifically accused me of doing this,  but accusation and
    implication are two sides of the same coin. (bloody hell - that was
    abit profound)
    
    All this is getting beyond a joke:
    
    
    
    Back to the real topic - why are Erasure crap?  
1022.34Let he who is without sin...ODDONE::HOLLANDS_CFri May 22 1992 14:597
    For the record, Vince clarke is married with children. C'mob guy's, as
    far as mindless pop music goes, Erasure really aren't THAT bad. 
    Sounds like you're all homophobic to me - which is another way of
    saying 'admit it guys, you all have feminine tendancies...'
    
    Cath
    
1022.35You can't say that!NEWOA::SAXBYVote for Perot : He&#039;s got $3B!Fri May 22 1992 15:024
    
    Watch out Cath, they'll be 'round to convert you! 
    
    Mark
1022.36PEKING::BARKERNA Four Foot PruneFri May 22 1992 15:032
    Married with children -  So he just hasn't come out of the closet yet
    has he!!! 8-)
1022.37I bet!UBOHUB::HOLLANDS_CFri May 22 1992 15:225
    re .35 Promises, promises!
    
    Cath