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| 1022.1 |  | NEWOA::SAXBY | Vote for Perot : He's got $3B! | Thu May 21 1992 13:36 | 8 | 
|  |     
    Ah, but why? Is it a contrived attempt to make money?
    
    After all Vince Clarke has undoubted talent.
    
    Mark
    
    PS Actually I _quite_ like some Erasure stuff.
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| 1022.2 |  | PEKING::BARKERN | A Four Foot Prune | Thu May 21 1992 13:49 | 9 | 
|  |     I think that I'll form a new movement....
    
    
    E A S T..
    
    
     Erasure Are Stupid Tossers....
    
    
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| 1022.3 |  | SUBURB::WAITEG | MILLWALL PRIDE OF SOUTH LONDON | Thu May 21 1992 14:02 | 1 | 
|  |     I'll be in that.
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| 1022.4 | Liverpool Pride Of Merseyside | SUBURB::HAWKESM |  | Thu May 21 1992 14:35 | 6 | 
|  |     
    I don't want to know why Erasure are crap - They just are...
    
    The question should be - Why are Erasure STILL AROUND ?
    
    Hawkesy.
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| 1022.5 | ooooh sometimes... | VOGON::ATWAL | dream out loud | Thu May 21 1992 14:44 | 7 | 
|  | Well, this topic _is_ full of reasoned argument about Erasure...
I think they make excellent pop music, certainly far more original than the
majority of their chart peers.
...Art
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| 1022.6 | Odd? | NEWOA::SAXBY | Vote for Perot : He's got $3B! | Thu May 21 1992 14:53 | 7 | 
|  |     �                    -< Liverpool Pride Of Merseyside >-
    
    Do Erasure come from Liverpool then?
    
    Equally, what else is there on Merseyside, except Liverpool?
    
    Mark
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| 1022.7 | Liverpool aint got nothing to do with Erasure! | SUBURB::HAWKESM |  | Thu May 21 1992 15:41 | 15 | 
|  |     
    > Equally, what else is there on Merseyside, except Liverpool ?
    
    - The slightly less talented Everton FC springs to mind !
    
    Hawkesy.
    
    
    
    P.S. I don't think Erasure come from Liverpool. I was just plugging my
         favourite footie team.
    
    P.P.S. I have just this minute been informed that the 2 male members of
           Erasure are in fact gay !!! - Am I right ?
    
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| 1022.8 |  | RUTILE::LETCHER | Cool before drinking | Thu May 21 1992 15:42 | 4 | 
|  |     Why the triple exclamation mark? Is there something wrong with being
    gay?
    
    Piers
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| 1022.9 |  | ARRODS::WHITEHEADJ | Why's everybody SHOUTING? | Thu May 21 1992 15:47 | 1 | 
|  |     Well, Vince Clarke is an Essex man.  I don't know about Andy Bell.
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| 1022.10 | Careful! | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Set The House Ablaze | Thu May 21 1992 15:57 | 4 | 
|  |     And being gay (in Mr Bell's case) only compounds their (alleged)
    crapness? Please explain yourself, on second thoughts preferably
    not. 
         
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| 1022.11 | And Nelson Mandella's black!!!! | NEWOA::SAXBY | Vote for Perot : He's got $3B! | Thu May 21 1992 15:58 | 6 | 
|  |     � P.P.S. I have just this minute been informed that the 2 male members of
    �        Erasure are in fact gay !!! - Am I right ?
    
    This is a wind-up, right?
    
    Mark
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| 1022.12 | meanwhile back to the music (sic) | YUPPY::PANES | A star-spangled spaniel in the works | Thu May 21 1992 16:16 | 3 | 
|  | 	 I have it on good authority that Dame Edna Everage is a man.
	 Stuart
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| 1022.13 |  | JURA::PELAZ::MACFADYEN | The last train left an hour ago | Thu May 21 1992 16:25 | 11 | 
|  | >    P.P.S. I have just this minute been informed that the 2 male members of
>           Erasure are in fact gay !!! - Am I right ?
If you'd read the note that started all this (1018.71) more carefully, you'd
have seen them being described as "nancy boys". Or does that need to be
explained too?
But really, this topic is a waste of diskspace.
Rod
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| 1022.14 | Nothing wrong with gays - means more women for us! | SUBURB::HAWKESM |  | Thu May 21 1992 16:38 | 12 | 
|  |     
    Lighten up, its only a bit of harmless fun. I mean no-one really likes
    Erasure do they ?.
    
    if you do then don't read this note. Anyway it wasn't my idea to start
    this note in the fist place !
    
    Hawkesy.
    
    P.S. They really are gay though aren't they ?. Or have I been wrongly
         informed ?
    
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| 1022.15 |  | PEKING::BARKERN | A Four Foot Prune | Thu May 21 1992 16:42 | 12 | 
|  |     Erasure are a waste of disc space,  plastic,  tape,  rubber,  time, 
    air,  etc.............
    
    The only reason that Erasure still exist is that Vince Clark has
    finally found someone who is as crap as him!!!!  All the others he has
    worked with were far too talented and consequently showed him up.
    
    ie Alison Moyet,  Fergal Sharkey,   in fact Depeche Mode are the only
    people that were crapper than him that's why he left them.
    
    
    Nigel
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| 1022.16 | Harmless fun it aint. | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Set The House Ablaze | Thu May 21 1992 16:53 | 10 | 
|  |    re. 14
    
   -<Nothing wrong with gays - means more women for us!>-
    
    Typed in your best leery pub voice no doubt. And I'd imagine your 
    the sort of chap who could "convert" the odd lesbian or two?
    
    barry.
    
    
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| 1022.17 |  | BAHTAT::SUMMERFIELDC | Aut Tunc, Aut Nunquam | Thu May 21 1992 16:56 | 15 | 
|  |     re .13
    
    � But really, this topic is a waste of diskspace.
    
    I couldn't agree more. I'm sure that if everyone tried, we could have a
    note 'Why are XXXXXXXX crap?' for every band around. It appears to be
    pointless and bigoted. Some notes slag off bands whilst being fun,
    namely the various tosh notes, this one just seems to be for
    opinionated outburst. If you like that kind of thing, please go to
    EF92.
    
    Balders
    
    (Unimpressed of Leeds)
    
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| 1022.18 |  | PEKING::BARKERN | A Four Foot Prune | Thu May 21 1992 17:07 | 17 | 
|  |     You're just pissed off 'cos you've got everything that they've ever
    released,  and you're scared that someone will find out.  What's more
    up until reading this note you thought that they were quite good.
    
    What's more this entire conference is a waste of disc space,  not a
    bloody serious arty naffing farty "serious" bloody discussion on Music
    bby people (with the exception of some) who don't know a bleeding thing
    about it!!!  So whyhave it ?  because we all need a bit of fun,  and
    most of us do nothing all day so we skive off in here pretending to
    write mails to people.
    
    If you want to discuss chart bleeding music "seriously" then you all
    want your heads examining.
    
    
    BTW this is a serious note,  I would really like to know why Erasure
    are so Bleeding CRAP!!!!!!!
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| 1022.19 | I get a feeling we're becoming unpopular... | SUBURB::HAWKESM |  | Thu May 21 1992 17:28 | 5 | 
|  |     
    RE .18 - Well said mate !.
    
    Hawkesy.
    
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| 1022.20 |  | KERNEL::SMITHERSJ | Living on the culinary edge.... | Thu May 21 1992 17:58 | 17 | 
|  |     
     Re .18
    
     My advice to you is once you have read this note, is to type exit and 
     then delete entry uk_music.  If you still want to waste your time 
     writing crappy notes, add SOAPBOX instead and spout out drivel until
     you bore yourself silly.
    
     Yours "in fun", julia
    
     BTW, Erasure maybe crap but they earn tons of money for being crap,
     so why change?
    
    
    
    
 
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| 1022.21 | Here we go Here we go.................... | SCOAYR::SROBERTSON |  | Fri May 22 1992 08:19 | 8 | 
|  |     re.-18 
    
    Another "well said mate" vote - some people are very TOUCHY and if you
    can't have a bit of fun?A little stirring is also good fun.
    
    re.-19 do you know any lesbians that need converted - wouldn't mind
    trying.
    
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| 1022.23 |  | NEWOA::SAXBY | Vote for Perot : He's got $3B! | Fri May 22 1992 09:02 | 23 | 
|  |     
    So, ok, with a nod in the direction of Mr Hawkes (who doesn't care why), 
    what is it that some of you think is so crap about Erasure?
    
    The following is a list of things which make them better than a lot of 
    other groups :-
    
    i) Their material is their own, not stolen from other records or simply
       naff cover versions.
    
    ii) They make an attempt to sing (ok, you may not like the singer's
    voice, but at least he doesn't talk about how big his dick is and how
    much coke he's sold today!).
    
    iii) They've been around a long time, so they obviously have something
    which makes people go back and buy a second album/single whatever after
    the first.
    
    iv) It seems that paranoid homophobics don't like 'em.
    
    Discuss (this means talk about, not wade in with infantile insults).
    
    Mark
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| 1022.24 |  | PEKING::BARKERN | A Four Foot Prune | Fri May 22 1992 10:25 | 27 | 
|  |     Material is their own?  ABBA covers were in fact written by Erasure
    were they,  songs bought from publishing co's. are their own are they.
    
    Sing does he?  MMMM you know alot don't you!!!!
    
    Play keyboards does he?   Next you'll be telling me that they really
    Vince has got a degree in one fingered piano playing.
    
    No mate I've always considered Erasure to be a complete load of
    contrived shit.  As is most of the British Pop scene.  It's just a
    shame that many people can't see that they are being totaly led up the
    garden path.  You lot will fall for anything if it's stuck infront of
    you by the bloody Radio Stations.  Next you'll be saying that Gary
    Davies was not a naff D.J. 
    
    
    
    SUCKERS
    
    
    After all,  You took this bloody note seriously.  
    
    
    How do you feel????? 
    
    Nigel
    
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| 1022.25 | Remind me to catch your group sometime. | NEWOA::SAXBY | Vote for Perot : He's got $3B! | Fri May 22 1992 10:42 | 10 | 
|  |     
    Re .24
    
    � Discuss (this means talk about, not wade in with infantile insults).
    
    How do I feel? 
    
    Totally vindicated? :^)
    
    Mark
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| 1022.26 |  | PEKING::BARKERN | A Four Foot Prune | Fri May 22 1992 11:03 | 22 | 
|  |     Catch my group at anyone of the following venues:
    
    Tuesday 26th May 1992  The Greyhound  Reading
    
    Friday 29th May 1992   Kings Arms  Stokenchurch
    
    Thursday 4th June 1992  The Eagle  Reading
    
    Saturday 6th June  1992 Fat Jacks  Grazeley Green.
    
    (these are off the top of my head,  but there are more and I will post
    them when my diary is here.)
    
    Please come along.  Live music,   played live and excellently!!
    Plus no Erasure covers!!!!!
    
    
    (We can't work them out because they are far too complex for us!!! ;*))
    
    Nigel
    
    
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| 1022.27 | Tottenham Court Rd. | MINDER::GLYNNP | A young fart at heart | Fri May 22 1992 11:20 | 1 | 
|  |     
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| 1022.28 |  | BAHTAT::SUMMERFIELDC | Aut Tunc, Aut Nunquam | Fri May 22 1992 12:53 | 15 | 
|  |     .26 � Please come along.  Live music,   played live and excellently!!
    							    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Such modesty ;-)
    
    BTW, if you don't like a band's music, fine. If you don't like their
    image, fine. I agree with you, I don't particularly like Erasure. I
    tend to find the music irritatingly simplistic and superficial. Mainly
    because of Vince Clarkes reliance on sequencers and arpeggiators which
    tends to produce thin boppy tunes. And anyone who uses the word
    'Fishes' in a song deserves criticism :-). But keep the homophobia out
    of it. And comments about curing lesbians are just purile.
    
    Balders
    
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| 1022.30 | Why are they so special. | PEKING::BARKERN | A Four Foot Prune | Fri May 22 1992 13:27 | 19 | 
|  |     I'm not homophibic in the slightest,  but it is strange that as soon as
    someone talks about necrophilia we all have a laugh.  If you look at a
    girl/boy younger than you you're a pedofile, and everyone giggles.  So
    why is it that gays should be let off from this sort of ridicule. 
    There are too many taboos in the world,  I for one hold very little in
    so much esteem that I won't take the piss,  but at the end of the day
    that is all  I'm doing.  Just the same as people take the piss out of
    me and countless others.  It's not my fault that Andy Bell is a
    "screaming bender, with no more right to live on Gods clean earth than
    a weasel"  
    
    Why shouldn't we say the word gay - are they ashamed of it and try
    hiding under the "Oh God you must be homophobic"..  
    
    Equal rights for Gays.....Bollocks  lets have equal rights for all
    humans not just gays.  
    
    Nigel
    
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| 1022.31 |  | PEKING::BARKERN | A Four Foot Prune | Fri May 22 1992 13:30 | 5 | 
|  |     P.S.   I've never once mentioned curing lesbians.  I don't want to cure
    them,  I want to watch them!!!!!  And if any man out there doesn't feel
    the same,  well they must be gay.!!!! ;-)
    
    Nigel
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| 1022.32 | If the cap fits! | NEWOA::SAXBY | Vote for Perot : He's got $3B! | Fri May 22 1992 13:37 | 4 | 
|  |     
    Did anyone accuse _YOU_ specifically of this? :^)
    
    Mark
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| 1022.33 |  | PEKING::BARKERN | A Four Foot Prune | Fri May 22 1992 13:46 | 11 | 
|  |     re -1
    
    No noone specifically accused me of doing this,  but accusation and
    implication are two sides of the same coin. (bloody hell - that was
    abit profound)
    
    All this is getting beyond a joke:
    
    
    
    Back to the real topic - why are Erasure crap?  
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| 1022.34 | Let he who is without sin... | ODDONE::HOLLANDS_C |  | Fri May 22 1992 13:59 | 7 | 
|  |     For the record, Vince clarke is married with children. C'mob guy's, as
    far as mindless pop music goes, Erasure really aren't THAT bad. 
    Sounds like you're all homophobic to me - which is another way of
    saying 'admit it guys, you all have feminine tendancies...'
    
    Cath
    
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| 1022.35 | You can't say that! | NEWOA::SAXBY | Vote for Perot : He's got $3B! | Fri May 22 1992 14:02 | 4 | 
|  |     
    Watch out Cath, they'll be 'round to convert you! 
    
    Mark
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| 1022.36 |  | PEKING::BARKERN | A Four Foot Prune | Fri May 22 1992 14:03 | 2 | 
|  |     Married with children -  So he just hasn't come out of the closet yet
    has he!!! 8-)
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| 1022.37 | I bet! | UBOHUB::HOLLANDS_C |  | Fri May 22 1992 14:22 | 5 | 
|  |     re .35 Promises, promises!
    
    Cath
    
    
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