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    Methinks you might mean the version by Oleta Adams which comes from the
    CD - Two Rooms.
    
    A belter of a track minf you
    
    Rich
    

    RE:.1 hear hear ;^)
    
    Noteworthy to mention but I think not this year's no:1
    "Stephanie Mills:Rudolph the red nose raindeer(rap dance version)
    
    Jan.

    Someone told me that Cliffie's releasing a single.
    Other big single releases soming up for christmas:
    
          Erasure "Am I Right"  (poor choice IMHO)
    
          U2      "Mysterious ways"
    
          Pet Shop Boys "Was it Worth it?"
    
    Will there be another Michael Jackson single before christmas?
    
     
              Niall

   Roy Wood & Wizard - I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day

    The Cliff single is awful. Bound to be Christmas number 1!
    
    Steve.
    

    RE: .1
    
    Tis true....George and Elton have released a live version of "Don't let
    the sun.....". Great song and great live too, especially the bit where
    Elton comes on as surprise guest for one of the final verses.
    
    Can't beat the original though.
    
    Dale.

    re-1 - is this the Level 42 song?
    
    Mikef

   I thought it was the Nik Kershaw version.

    The Nik Kershaw (poor sod) version is called "I won't let the sun go
    down on me" .
      
    Subtle differences and all that.
    
    Niall

    And the Cliff Richard version is called ..


    "I won't let Sue Barker...."

    :-)

    
    Thanks, that bought a smile to my Tuesday.

	Looks like Queen will have the Christmas No. 1 then.

    Well the Diana Ross single came straight in at no. 10 so be careful
    about the predictions. It's a long time since she had such a high new
    entry.
    
                 Niall

    
    Funny I thought she came in at Number 1 last week?
    
    Mark

    Michael's too white for such comparisons now. He'll look like a skinny
    Elizabeth Taylor inside a year.
    
                  Niall
    

    Got to be Bohemian Rhapsody now, since they are going to re-release it
    on December 9th, just in time for Christmas.  
    
    All proceeds to the Terence Higgins Trust.
    
    julia

    What's the B side?

    Don't know, sorry

    re .17
    � Got to be Bohemian Rhapsody now, since they are going to re-release it
    � on December 9th, just in time for Christmas.  
    
    Heard on the radio that William Hill have stop taking bets on the
    Christmas no. 1 - so many people have backed Queen that the odds have
    become unreasonable.
    
    You can still bet on the number 2 record though!
    
    Ian.

    So what will the no.1 L.P. be then ? 
     The obvious contenders are:
    
            ENYA "Shepard Moons" (I know this has already been to no.1 but
    it's the time of year for these records to do well)
    
            MICHAEL JACKSON    ('cos it's an event)
    
            QUEEN (already been to no.1 but still the favourite IMO)
    
            U2  "ACHTUNG BABY" (not likely as nearly EVERYONE  buys a U2
    l.p. the week it comes out)
    
            TINA TURNER  (as usual it got stuck @no.2 , I don't reckon
    it'll make it)
    
           PET SHOP BOYS (their only real hope is the new single)
    
     
    Niall                  
           

    The Queen affair is double A:
    
    These were the times of our lives/Bohemian Rhapsody
    
    This should be at the top on christmas day.
    
    Closely followed by Cliffs effort, Sinead O'Connors 'Silent Night' and
    the KLFs 'Justified and Ancient (Stand by your JAMs)' featuring Tammy
    Wynette. Prior to Freddies passing, this was 16-1 with bookies William
    Hill.
    
    Terry B

    "times of our lives" is doubly poignant, given the circumstances. Sorta
    like "watching the wheels"....
    
    	- andy

    I still feel that George & Elton is a cert.
    
    Tony

    Yes, but what about the record?

    Go to your room, Andy.

    Whats the difference between Elton John and a thermometer?
    
    Tony

    A thermometer's nice to look at.
    
    Piers

    
    A thermometer would probably write its own songs.

    A thermometer has Mercury up it permanently ?

    Very bad taste. 

    Thats up to your intellect I suppose.
    
    Phil Gill.

    Nowt as queer as humour, eh? I find Bernard Manning offensive, but not
    that joke. I think Freddie Mercury was wonderful, and loved his music.
    I found the comment tasteless, but funny. Inconsistency isn't a crime.
    

.37>    Inconsistency isn't a crime.

True. But liking Jason Donovan is.


Rod

    Dougie,
    
         I hereby sentence you to a years subscription to Q!!!
    

    That answer is correct
    
    Tony

    Yep, I agree.  The xmas no. 1 will be Queen.
    
    And to celebrate, heres another Queen related joke:
    
    (Non intellectuals only) 
    
    What has Michael Watson and Freddie Mercury got in common?
    
    They have both been battered around the ring!     
    
    Ho Ho

    
    Follow up to .41
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I guess the chips were down! :^)
    
    Mark

	Any news on a late entry from Matty Brown?

	(Replies of "Who's Matty Brown?" will be sent straight to 
         the Captains Log topic without any supper) 

    
    Is .43 related to .41 & .42? I think we should be told!
    
    Mark

    I thought Matty Browne laft DEC in late summer/early Sept.?
    
                Niall
    

    RE-1
    
    yes he did Naill,the end of august this year.He told me that when he
    gets famous he let me know....he's trying to setup a band,already
    bought for about �5K worth of keyboard equipment(from his DEC-package
    deal)I gues Matty is doing fine in the real world hahahaha :^))
    
    Jan.
    

    So what was No 1 at Christmas (too apathetic to care at the time, but now 
    I've read this note I'm wondering).
    
    K

    Ta
    

    What will this year's Christmas number one be? Barring the death of
    some performer, I'd say Cliff Richard...

    
    I think Cliff Richard will befall the same fate as Michael Landon, and
    die of being too nice, so I think you're right on both counts Keith.
    
    Paul

    ...and he will go straight to heaven "where nothing ever happens".
    
    kev

     Didn't St Clifford announce that he is not releasing anymore 
     Christmas records.  


     The smart money is on his next seasonal single being something along
     the lines of "Darling its been a long cold New Years Eve missing you 
     as a bachelor boy, but its hardly anytime before our summer holiday and
     I want to congratulate the devil woman blah blah blah "

   
     Hang up your bag, Cliff and retire gracefully.


    Stuart ( The Peter Pan of Peckham ).

    It's interesting that, for someone who's supposedly such a has-been,
    his non-fans find it necessary to invent things which he is supposedly
    guilty of.
    
    Leave the man alone. He practically invented the British pop music
    industry! I only wish there were more like him in other walks of life,
    such as the computer industry or technical innovation, where Britain
    could well do with a kick up it's parochial ass.
    
    If Cliff's religion disagrees with you, don't listen to it. That's how
    those of us who are Christians manage to put up with the anti-religion
    preached to excess these days.
    
    
    Dave Hazel (actually a Shadows fan, but I like Cliff too)

    British industry has lots of 'middle of the road play safe backwards
    looking closed minded people' like Cliff.  Thats the problem, isn't it?
    
    Mikef

    
    It's easy to knock someone like Cliff Richard. He's been around
    FOREVER and he now (at a pretty advanced age) makes very middle of 
    the road, bland (IMO) music. However, he obviously has a very firm
    base of support (like, say, Status Quo - relative newcomers compared
    with Cliff) and it's probably safe to say that those people will still
    be buying Cliff records long after the 'trendier' element of his
    knockers (oh, err, sounds like something from Viz!) have learnt to
    cringe at their support of their current fad.
    
    I doubt Cliff Richard cares one fig (he'd never say 'gives a toss') 
    about those who dislike him. He's survived for a long time in a very
    fickle marketplace and he's (no doubt) a very rich man.
    
    Mark

    Read the Q magazine article "Who the hell does CR think he is" from
    December. The man is a pompous, smug, twit who imagines that he
    invented rock music.

    I'm not a Cliff Richard fan, but I'd dispute all of those adjectives,
    Andy. There aren't many people who've been in the popular music
    business for the last 34 years who are still popular, and that alone
    says that he is not a twit.
    
    Just my opinion, of course....
    
    Keith

    re .59
    
    � business for the last 34 years who are still popular, and that alone
    � says that he is not a twit.
    
    All it says to me is that he is a very long-lasting, popular twit. :-)
    
    Balders

    
    My God, some people believe what they read!!!!!!! :^)
    
    Mark

	I wasn't knocking Cliff or his beliefs, or come to think of it
        his medical condition.  But to be brutally frank, I find his
        music facile and boring.

       Stuart

Slightly off the point here, but why do pretencious music magazines always 
interview people and then put on the front cover "Who the hell does ----- 
---- think he/she is?"

Paul

    Because its funny?
    
    Mikef

    Because it draws attention to the magazine, same as the reason why most
    "popular" magazines and newspapers do that kind of thing. It's easier,
    when trying to sell drivel, to pander to popular "opinion", even when
    that "opinion" has been manufactured by the press themselves, than it
    would be to come up with something positive or non-committal which was
    original.
    
    
    Dave Hazel (deferring to the many years of self-opinionated experience
    which clashes with the fact of Cliff's persistent popularity. If the
    press says he is a phoney, 34 years of proof to the contrary must be a
    fiction, mustn't it?)

    RE: .56 & .58
    
    Ho! Ho-hoo!! Really funny! :-)
    How can so many people keep buying this "safe", "cosy", drivel???
    What's worse is the guy's making money from it!Arggghhh!!!
    
    								- JIM CAD*

>>    How can so many people keep buying this "safe", "cosy", drivel???
  
    
    								- JIM CAD*

Jim, what do you expect? The whole world to suddenly start dropping tabs
before breakfast and take up listening to Nirvana? You need these people.
They help make up your own lifestyle/music identity. Think about it.

Gushing-ly yours,

Barry.

    
    Well regardless, I still rate Move It as THE best pure rock and roll
    record EVER.
    
    For those that are interested. Did you know it wasn't Hank Marvin
    playing geetar on Move It? It was someone who sank into oblivion. Got
    this snippet out of Bruce Welch's book. It wasn't for any other reason
    than I think think it was recorded (marginally) before Cliff got
    together with Hank and Bruce.
    
    Richard

    
    I think its amusing that Cliff "the virgin" Richard only bothers to
    bring out records at Christmas (or new year).
    
    Blimey, I guess thats one way of financing your pressies.
    
    Funny though, I thought he only appealed to sexually frustrated
    house-wives over 40 8^) !
    
    -Tony

.69�    I think its amusing that Cliff "the virgin" Richard only bothers to
.69�    bring out records at Christmas (or new year).
    
    Was this tongue-in-cheek, Tony? It certainly isn't true...
    
    Keith

    
    Well, he's mister squeaky_clean_no_sex_before_marriage, isn't he.
    
    Or so he claims...

    
    Here, Tony, you seem to have a lot of information about Cliffy.
    
    Are you sure you're not a secret fan, who's trying to convince us
    that you aren't? :^)
    
    Mark

    Cliff, a virgin? Nah, not the same man who gave us "Devil Woman"?
    :^)
    
    Barry.
    

    
    
    Cliffybabes ??? I'm his biggest fan - I just love to see him wobble his 
    wrinkles and watch the make-up flake off.
    
    .not.

    
    See? Exposed at last! :^)
    
    Mark

    Re. .68:
    
>   For those that are interested. Did you know it wasn't Hank Marvin
>   playing geetar on Move It? It was someone who sank into oblivion.
    
    Ian "Sammy" Samwell, I think. The author of the song.
    
    Cliff's manager at the time discovered Hank and Bruce in the 2Is coffee
    bar (where Cliff himself had been discovered). Hank impressed him with
    his guitar playing, and his Buddy Holly looks.
    
    
    Dave Hazel
    
    PS. Cliff is highly spoken of by artists who have actually worked with
    him. So don't believe everything the papers say.

>                           -< Guitarist on Move It >-
>
>    Re. .68:
>    
>>   For those that are interested. Did you know it wasn't Hank Marvin
>>   playing geetar on Move It? It was someone who sank into oblivion.
>    
>    Ian "Sammy" Samwell, I think. The author of the song.

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No, it wasn't Sammy, it was a session guitarist called Ernie Shears.
Ernie was also to play guitar on the follow-up single and actually 
laid the track down....but it sounded too similar to Move it. 

I think Ernie was paid something like 5 pounds and four shillings for 
the session !!

Hank laid down his offering and they prefered it....the rest is history!

Dave

"Old Shads Fan"

    
    Thats it, Shears was the name. I've tried to work out all the riffs
    played on that record but I've never really managed it. I suspect they
    are all deceptively simple but then these things usually are.
    
    I DID work out the intro though. That was so simple I couldn't believe
    it!
    
    Richard

    Re. .77
    
    It may well have been Ernie Shears. I wasn't too sure about Ian
    Samwell.
    
    The follow up to Move It was "High Class Baby" but it definitely was
    not Hank Marvin playing on that. It was still Ernie, and the reason
    Cliff looked for someone else was because he thought the guitar sounded
    too similar.
    
    Hank and Bruce (who joined as a pair, at Hank's insitence) first played
    on "Livin' Lovin' Doll". I think this was the third single.
    
    (By the way, at that time, all the backing group members were paid the
    standard session fee for each piece they were on. On their first tour,
    the same happened. But Hank got asked to play for other artists as well
    as Cliff, and ended up earning more than Cliff himself.)
    
    Dave Hazel