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780.1 | | WELMTS::GREENB | Resign! Resign! Resign! | Tue Dec 18 1990 16:08 | 3 |
| .....and 'Ice Ice Baby'.
Bob
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780.2 | | PEKING::AMANNP | I'll never walk alone | Tue Dec 18 1990 16:33 | 5 |
| Bob,
don't worry - sick bags in the post.
Paul.
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780.3 | | PAPERS::TALBOYS | Where Beagle's Dare ... | Tue Dec 18 1990 16:48 | 13 |
| I think the playlist is really 30 songs but they all sound like the same
3 songs .... the rest are all rip-offs of older/better tracks or better
known as TV ads ....
The charts these days stink of money lining pockets and SAW out to grab all they
can before someone notices they are rubbish
barf barf barf
She who often listens to radio 4 in the evenings driving home cos it's FUNNY !!
woof
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780.4 | | IGETIT::BROWNM | Mistake! I dod that on porpoise! | Tue Dec 18 1990 17:35 | 14 |
| RE-1, SAW haven't had a sizeable hit for a while now.
I've been moved - into the warehouse, where the radio is on all day.
No tapes allowed, just Radio 1. How much I enjoy myself really depends
on what song is on at the time. I get really depressed when the play
Cliffy or Snap - I just can't stand those records.
The general quality is below standard, but they do play the odd good
tune. They seemed to be better a few months back, with loads of Happy
Monday's etc, and surprisingly Gary Davies used to play some cool club
cuts.
matty
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780.5 | Yeah...good discussion | JGO::KWIKKEL | The dance music library 1969-20.. | Wed Dec 19 1990 09:11 | 37 |
| RE's
Hear hear guys...the same sh** is happening in dull radio land Holland
too,I call it(it's realy a dutch saying)"eenheids worst".
xlation"clone sausages".
Meaning "ignorent medioker quality",turn the dial from left to right
finding out that no difference can be detected.Another terrible thing
started up a year ago,a new radio station called Radio 10 has even gone
over to a format that restrict them to play old records only.This
station now call themselves Radio 10"GOLD". I used to have special
memories and good feelings of some particular songs from the past,but
I hate it that they play records we used to call "evergreens" atleast
4 or 5 times a day. IMO such a song is being killed as evergreen.You
that I'm sick of hearing these socalled "golden oldies".These days
all stations use the golden oldie format in the morning....yuk!
What is you guys near London your opinion about Kiss 100FM?
Or in general,write down your suggestions of how a radio format must
look like,the records,the programming,the 3 day parts(morning,noon and
evening)and what during the night?
I like to know this very much cuz I'm working for a local indipendent
radio station which also goes on air during the month of januari 91.
I have a weekly "dance music" 2 hour show on the friday eve and you
would'nt believe it but the show is realy picking up lots of listeners.
At this stage we only broadcast via cable units,so I'm surprised that
I have actually people listening to my show which is called Beats
Rythm&Party.I review last weeks dance record releases from the record
companies and indeed play classic dance material(and yes,not the ones
you keep hearing all day on other stations)
�SAW(stock aitkin&waterman) did a biggie with that Kylie thing did
they?
YO�
Jan.
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780.6 | | CHEFS::PRICET | From the global village.... | Wed Dec 19 1990 09:11 | 5 |
| I heard that SAW have only had 13 hits this year but they had something
like 47 in '89, so somethings are getting better.
Tim
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780.7 | don't touch that dial | SHAPES::FIDDLERM | | Wed Dec 19 1990 09:15 | 4 |
| Re .3...yeah, get tuned into Radio 4...ain't the same old show on my
radio!!
Mikef
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780.8 | | CHEFS::PRICET | From the global village.... | Wed Dec 19 1990 09:19 | 10 |
| Talking of Radio, I hate Radio Sussex because they broadcast my
interview with Billy Bragg but cut out my voice and replaced it with
their DJs, what a %$##&*^%$#, they didn't even reply to the nasty
letter I sent them.
AAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHH It still makes me angry, I thought the
BBC were supposed to have some integrity.
Tim
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780.9 | | WELMTS::GREENB | Resign! Resign! Resign! | Wed Dec 19 1990 09:28 | 22 |
| Obviously, what I'd like to hear on the radio will never happen;
listeners would turn over in droves (I don't think Henry Cow would go
down too well on Gary Davis' Bit in the Middle). I accept that mass-
audience radio has to play fairly safe, as a lot of people listen on a
fairly casual basis, or use it as a background, but I do think they could
broaden theirspectrum a lot, and mix up the styles without alienating
listeners. I'm sure there could be a good mix of pop, indie, dance, rock,
oldies etc., where listeners wouldn't desert the station.
My main gripe, apart from the musical content on the radio is the fact
that the amount of music per hour seems to be falling to make way for
yet more inane babble, quizzes, characters etc., etc., etc., from the
blummen DJs. It seems they think it is more important for them to make
it 'their' show rather than play music; it's almost as if the music is
an intrusion or interruption. But then perhaps that's what the people
want......
I'm just making these comments after listening casually yesterday, as
usually I listen to tapes or R4, but as someone once said, 'Don't
criticise what you don't understand'.
Bob
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780.10 | bash the BEEB (and why not!) | PEKING::AMANNP | I'll never walk alone | Wed Dec 19 1990 09:31 | 3 |
| Sue 'em Tim, take 'em to the cleaners!
Paul.
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780.11 | | CHEFS::PRICET | From the global village.... | Wed Dec 19 1990 09:43 | 13 |
| The problem is I don't think I've got a leg to stand on legally bacause
they were recording the interview as well and asking some of their own
questions and since they didn't broadcast my voice have I any claim to
what Billy Bragg said to me personally copyrightwise? I doubt it, its
just very annoying I didn't get credited. Anyway since they didn't
reply I decided to use some of their questions in my fanzine to at
least get something out of them so they'd probably sue me back.
Tim
--- BOYCOTT THE TURN IT UP PROGRAM ON BBC RADIO SUSSEX!!
P.S. I had a laugh at their expense when the NME took the piss out of
the guy that nicked the stuff in a bit about the band 5.30.
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780.12 | | IGETIT::BROWNM | Mistake! I dod that on porpoise! | Wed Dec 19 1990 12:30 | 27 |
| Jan, I'd like to see daytime radio playing mixes of records that most
people don't get, ie. unreleased mixes, but just versions off the 12"
would be an improvement. The problem with that is the amount of poor
quality remixes about now is sky high. Also it would be nice if they
played the odd live recording, but not whole concerts, and album tracks
too. Then you have all the good dance and Indie records that flop due
to exposure. I feel if they played more Indie and more Dance more
people would get into it all. It happened with the Manchester groups,
and House music.
I think radio needs to give something that you can't get elsewhere, but
because they just play the same few records over and over again they
don't do that. Most of those records are Top 20, so people have
already heard/got them.
You need to keep people interested though, with the quizes etc.
Gary Davies is popping the odd classical pieces into his show, which I
think is a very good idea.
Also Radio 1 seems to be tying to resurrect Soho's `Hippy Chick' now
that it's done the business in the US. That's good too. They should
dig up all the old good flop records and play them till they sell, then
everyone would be into the World Of Twist and the Paris Angels!!!
matty
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780.13 | | CHEFS::PRICET | From the global village.... | Wed Dec 19 1990 12:38 | 14 |
| One of the best things Radio 1 could do is get rid of Simon "I'm a
really sincere guy" Bates, I hate him and his Our Tune bit. Seriously
I think that Radio 1 could do with revamping its DJ line up, its
basically too old, or at least too stuck in its ways, the exception to
the rule being John Peel.
On the other hand maybe its time to launch a new station, we've got
radio 5 for sport how about radio 6 for more experimental types of
music and not just one genre. Kiss FM is good but only concentrates on
dance, I think we need something with a wider base.
Tim
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780.14 | | IOSG::WILCOCKA | Rhyme without a Reason | Wed Dec 19 1990 13:42 | 7 |
| re: .13
Annie Nightingale & Fluff(on Saturday Night) - yeah I know he's old hat,
but he plays better music than Tommy Vance, are probably the only
others that should stay.
Andy.
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780.15 | | RUTILE::MACFADYEN | Now located @ FYO | Wed Dec 19 1990 13:44 | 10 |
| > <<< Note 780.9 by WELMTS::GREENB "Resign! Resign! Resign!" >>>
>
> the amount of music per hour seems to be falling to make way for
> yet more inane babble, quizzes, characters etc.
You mean, like those repeated interjections on R1 where they say, "Radio
1... advert free so you can hear more music".
Rod
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780.16 | ? | WARNUT::HARRISC | Not very nice at all | Thu Dec 20 1990 10:03 | 1 |
| Is KISS FM available nationwide, or just the London area?
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780.17 | | JGO::KWIKKEL | The dance music library 1969-20.. | Thu Dec 20 1990 11:22 | 5 |
| RE-1
YUP...unfortunatly just london area.
Jan.
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780.18 | Lay off the DJ's! | PEKING::AYRESR | Relocated to DECpark X6324 | Thu Dec 20 1990 12:54 | 13 |
|
Would I be right in saying that there is a legal limit on how many
minutes of music can be played on the air per hour? If so why is this?
I don't understand why a radio station doesn't just make a tape of
LOTS of types of music and just play them all day. Perhaps have
'oldies' hours, Indie hours, dance hours (although I'd prefer
minutes!), all at specified times of the day. - OK OK so they can slot
a few adverts on commercial radio here and there.
Cheers,
Russell.
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780.19 | | MARVIN::WARWICK | Trevor Warwick | Thu Dec 20 1990 13:24 | 12 |
|
The BBC (certainly), and other stations (presumably) operate under
"needle-time" restrictions. They have to pay someone, presumably the
BPI, for the right to play recorded music, and this is not cheap.
Actually, I guess "laser-time" would be a better description these
days,
I've always thought it was a pretty good deal for the record companies.
They get money for getting the records played, and that very airplay is
what sells the music to the public !
Trevor
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780.20 | | WELMTS::GREENB | Comes but once a year | Thu Dec 20 1990 13:44 | 13 |
| I have to disagree with Russell about separate hours for 'different'
musics, except perhaps for more minority tastes. During daytime
peak-listening hours, I'd like to hear a greater range of music, and
let's face it, there's a lot more out there that could be played that
wouldn't offend the average casual listener (no put-down of that kind
of listener intended).
For instance, in the case of oldies, it always seems to be the same few
that get played. Occasionally, though, I'll hear an oldie that I
haven't heard for ages, and then it seems to crop up regularly for a
while. Has anyone else noticed this?
Bob
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780.21 | | JGO::KWIKKEL | The dance music library 1969-20.. | Thu Dec 20 1990 14:28 | 5 |
| RE.20
Bob, read my opinion in 780.5 regarding "oldies".
Jan.
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780.22 | | WELMTS::GREENB | Comes but once a year | Thu Dec 20 1990 14:42 | 11 |
| Done that, Jan. Agreed. What strikes me as strange is that one DJ will
pick up on an old record (not even necessarily an 'evergreen') and
suddenly it's all over the place for a few days. The most recent
example of this I can think of is Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich's
"Legend of Xanadu", you know, the one with the whip. I mean, it may
have been OK at the time, but I've heard it about 450 times this week.
I can't understand why this is, unless it's being used on an ad at the
moment and has been re-released. If this is the case, I'm emigrating to
Guam.
Bob
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780.23 | | JGO::KWIKKEL | The dance music library 1969-20.. | Thu Dec 20 1990 15:57 | 8 |
| Yeah...Bob,ya gotta have thik skin to ignore this...but I know,it's
irritating as H**l. The one we have at the moment is Young girl by the
Union gap.Also stuff from the Les Humphry singers and that terrible
thing by Cindy Lauper:Girls wanna have fun.
Boring boring boring.
Jan.
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780.24 | kinky sodding boots | MINDER::TURNERI | The stars read, 'COKE IS IT' | Thu Dec 20 1990 16:26 | 6 |
| The one really bugging me at the moment is 'kinky boots'. Its the worst
piece of dross ever recorded (excepting perhaps Shaddap your face).
The fact it has got in the charts just proves the fact that with a lot
of radio overkill/hype any crap can sell.
Ian, I hate radio one but its my wife's radio alarm clock, Turner.
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780.25 | | CHEFS::PRICET | From the global village.... | Thu Dec 20 1990 17:02 | 6 |
| Kinky Boots shows how much radio can push a record, especially at
Christmas, remember John Kettley is a weatherman, it would never have
sold if it hadn't picked up the Christmas airplay.
Tim
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780.26 | | IGETIT::BROWNM | Mistake! I dod that on porpoise! | Thu Dec 20 1990 17:15 | 10 |
| I like the `Kinky Boots' record. I would never had heard it unless
they did what they did. Though it does show the power they have. They
should use that power to bring unheard stuff to the casual listener,
such as `Kinky Boots' or the latest Pixiessingle.
Radio 1 have `Box Set Go' by the High on at the mo. They keep playing
Jesus Jones too. Good or what!
matty
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780.27 | | PAPERS::TALBOYS | Where Beagle's Dare ... | Thu Dec 20 1990 17:17 | 20 |
| I think the reason an 'oldie' gets played over and over is cos te DJ's leave
records in studios and the next DJ picks it up and thinks "I'll play that cos
I haven't heard that for ages..." and then leaves it for the next DJ etc etc
"Needle-time" does restrict the playing of records ... some records are 'free'
of "needle-time" - K-tel stuff methinks ?? .. I was amazed to find out
that even a few seconds of a record used in a competition is charged
"needle-time" !! typically shows on commercial stations late at night are only
allowed to play 2-3 needle-time records an hour ... that's lots of K-tel
stuff in-between .. yeukk
As for scrapping the DJ's ... nah .. some are very good and make the radio worth
listening to cos they're funny - like Tarrent ...if there were no DJ's then
you may as well listen to tapes instead of the radio ... then you'd get music
you like without the chat
Woof
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780.28 | yes but... | MINDER::TURNERI | The stars read, 'COKE IS IT' | Thu Dec 20 1990 17:51 | 14 |
|
I agree to a certain extent, but kinky boots was deliberatly hyped
by radio one. A local station here in manchester played it three or
four times last year but there was no deliberate hype...that is what
bugs.
The words to HITSVILLE UK by the Clash sum up radio one really
well...
EXPENSE ACCOUNTS AND LUNCH DISCOUNTS
AND HYPING OF THE CHARTS.
BTW I live in Manchester and think most of the music scene eminatingh
from this city is pretty dire.
Ian T.
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780.29 | And now the News. | PEKING::AYRESR | Relocated to DECpark X6324 | Fri Dec 21 1990 08:00 | 13 |
| Can we discuss news bulletins? Well I'm going to anyway!
Have you ever tried going on a long car journey with the radio on?
Don't you find it INCREDIBLY irritating to hear the EXACT same news
bulletin every � hour? I've been known to be able to recite a complete
days' news as read by Rod MckMckMckenzie.
One suggestion: keep news bulletins to once an hour?
OK guys tear me apart!
Russell.
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780.30 | | WELMTS::GREENB | Comes but once a year | Fri Dec 21 1990 08:22 | 9 |
| Has that John Revolta/Olivia Neutron-Bomb classic (gag), 'Summer
Nights', been re-released, or is it just coincidence that I keep
hearing it? On the positive side, it at least reminds me of how much
punk rock needed to happen back then.....
BTW, the reason I'm listening to R1 lately is because a small and nasty
relative vandalised my car ariel and now R1 is all I can pick up.
Bob
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780.31 | | PEKING::GLYNNP | Happy Birthday denise! | Fri Dec 21 1990 09:30 | 10 |
| >Has that John Revolta/Olivia Neutron-Bomb classic (gag), 'Summer
>Nights', been re-released, or is it just coincidence that I keep
>hearing it? On the positive side, it at least reminds me of how much
>punk rock needed to happen back then.....
They've released a `mega-mix' of Summer Nights, Grease Lightning and
one of the other songs from the film. There are some people somehwere
who need a good UZI 9mm taken to them.
Paul
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780.32 | | CHEFS::PRICET | From the global village.... | Fri Dec 21 1990 09:34 | 5 |
| Punk rock had already happened by then, the Grease stuff came out in
'79 while punk was mostly based around 76ish
Tim
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780.33 | | WELMTS::GREENB | Comes but once a year | Fri Dec 21 1990 09:45 | 4 |
| How the memory fades, Tim. I thought they were both happening about the
same time......
Old Man Bob
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780.34 | | CHEFS::PRICET | From the global village.... | Fri Dec 21 1990 10:10 | 5 |
| Its frightening to think that punk was 14 years ago, I remember it well
even though I was only 9
Tim
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780.35 | | SHAPES::FIDDLERM | | Fri Dec 21 1990 12:00 | 5 |
| Greaser was before 79...we're talking 77/78...ashamed that I am to
remember this. Anyone remember the Rats knocking JT/ONJ off the no 1
spot?
Mikef
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780.36 | | CHEFS::PRICET | From the global village.... | Fri Dec 21 1990 12:12 | 5 |
| It can't have been 77 because i was definitely living in Reading when
it was around and I didn't move here til 78.
Tim
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780.37 | | RUTILE::MACFADYEN | Now located @ FYO | Fri Dec 21 1990 14:06 | 9 |
| It could have been all those times. The first punk record I remember
hearing was "New Rose" by The Damned in August 76, but punk carried on
all through 77 and 78 until by 79/80 it was beginning to shade into
what they called New Wave.
And now we return to our regular programming.
Rod
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780.38 | | PEKING::AMANNP | Shhh, don't tell Laurie Brown | Fri Dec 21 1990 14:09 | 4 |
| I don't find the news reports that boring Russ, they're not as bad as
the weather reports - they might as well be on tape.
Paul.
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780.39 | | SYSTEM::COCKBURN | Craig Cockburn | Thu Jul 25 1991 12:48 | 27 |
| Subj: Campaign for Irish Radio station in London
All,
I was at a meeting of the London branch of the Celtic league last
night and there I found out about a campaign to get an Irish radio
station going in London. Clearly, this is provides an opportunity for
Irish language to be broadcast in the area, and may also be a forum
for other Celtic communities to get airtime.
There's a 2/3 page article on this campaign on P8 of "Irish in
Britain news", 19-Jul-91.
The aim is to give the temporary "Irish Festival Radio" station a
full licence, and to extend it's broadcasting area to the whole
of London, perhaps beyond.
A follow up article in the paper on 26th July said:
"1,000 plus sign media petition
Over 1,300 people signed the Irish media group's petition at the
Southwark (London) Irish festival calling for a fair share of media
time for the transmission of Irish music, sport, culture and current
affairs in the UK.
With 74 MP's and 29 MEP's having already signed, this brings the
total to more than 21,000 signatures"
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780.40 | | WARNUT::NISBETD | Oh, Lizzie! | Tue Sep 29 1992 19:14 | 6 |
| What was the all time number 1 on the recent Radio 1 celebrations? I
was out at friends for dinner, and we arrived already late while they
were playing number 2.
Dougie
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780.41 | | COMICS::WEGG | Some hard boiled eggs and some nuts. | Tue Sep 29 1992 20:07 | 5 |
| You could probably guess this quite easily ...
Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen.
I.
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780.42 | BA - sigh | CURRNT::PAYNE_A | Just between you and me, ... | Wed Sep 30 1992 11:47 | 6 |
| If it was the thing on Sunday afternoon about the best-selling records
of all time, I believe no2 was Queen, and No1 was Bryan Adams.
Sad, really.
Andy
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780.43 | R1/R2/D2 | TRUCKS::WARDR | | Mon Nov 30 1992 15:36 | 7 |
| Did anyone hear the interview with Johny Beerling, who's controller
of Radio 1, last week ?? It was after the announcement about the
green/white paper to decide the future of the BBC. Basically he
said that he thought that R1 should continue to exist, but maybe
with a "less trivial approach" (ahem). Anyone got any comments ??
Ray
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780.44 | | AYOV16::RENNISON | About as funny as running out of toilet paper | Mon Nov 30 1992 16:02 | 9 |
| Ray,
As long as Mark Goodier's show and John Peel stay on the air, I couldn't care.
I think it's important to keep them because they are the only shows (I know of)
in the UK that play music that is not in/ unlikely to get in the charts.
Yours humbly,
Mark
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780.45 | | KRAKAR::WARWICK | Can't you just... ? | Mon Nov 30 1992 16:08 | 12 |
|
I don't think Radio 1 should go away, because there isn't actually
anything like it in the commercial sector (yet).
There aren't many commercial stations that play Radio 1's mix of music
all day long. A lot of the independent stations seem to go into "Radio
2 Housewife" mode during the mornings, for example.
If there were an nationwide independent pop station, I wouldn't miss
the daytime "personalities" on Radio 1 very much.
Trevor
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780.46 | | KRAKAR::WARWICK | Can't you just... ? | Tue May 04 1993 12:24 | 14 |
|
Has anyone listened to Virgin 1215 yet ?
My preconceptions were totally vindicated when I turned it on for the
first time, and heard "Bat Out Of Hell". The sound quality is pretty
bad where I live, but the signal seems to be stronger than the old
Radio 3 signal on the same frequency.
I think it might turn out to be very successful. Yesterday, the top 10
of the Radio 1 listener's all time top 100 albums contained amongst
others Stars, Dark Side of the Moon, Bat Out Of Hell, Automatic for the
People, Joshua Tree, Sgt. Pepper. Sounds like Virgin's playlist to me.
Trevor
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780.47 | Tuned in and turned up | OLDTOM::DOUGLASS | Chewing on life's gristle ..... | Tue May 04 1993 17:53 | 24 |
|
Yes, I listened a lot this weekend because they were playing their way
through 1,215 "Classic tracks" (most over-worked word in the music biz)
If you can put up with the sound quality, I think they are well worth a
listen but then I am in their declared target audience : thirty somethings
who want Rock not Soul or Dance and who can't stand Radio 1 and the inane
drivel the DJs churn out.
Branson seems to have picked up a lot of staff from GLR ... Chris Evans was
doing exactly the same show as he used to do on Saturday morning .. Richard
Skinner is there, Jonathan Coleman, Kevin Greening and they have scheduled
the great Tommy Vance to compete with Steve Wright in the afternoon. Even
the Emperor Roscoe (sp?) show, on Saturday did not sound out of place !
I'll reserve judgement for a while because this weekend was an exception but
as long as TV plays things like Led Zep's "Battle for Evermore" and Neil
Young "Southern Man" back to back at six o'clock in the evening (like last
Thursday) .. then I'll stay tuned.
Paul
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780.48 | | AYOV16::SROBERTSON | | Wed May 05 1993 09:36 | 3 |
| I'd like to listen to this station - but the reception is just too bad
- Radio 1 ect is fine so maybe they don't put out a strong signal for
us up in the north.
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780.49 | Thumbs up from me | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Wed May 05 1993 10:50 | 10 |
|
Since it started it's been constantly on the car radio. However the reception is
terrible on 1215 am but on 1224 its clear as a bell. In fact, although it's not
FM Stereo, the sound is clearer than radio 1, especially near Reading Town Centre.
Love the music. Half the songs I've heard so far I'd forgotton about, and it's so
nice not having to put up with the rave/hip'op et al you get on Radio 1. It's even
worth putting up the commercials.
Al
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780.50 | I've switched ... | WIZZER::MACLEAN | A Pure Dear In a Wicked World | Wed May 05 1993 11:05 | 11 |
|
Yes, I know what you mean about the reception , it isn't so great in
Basingstoke either . However , as mentioned .49 you can also try 1224,
1242 and one other( <1215)which I can't remember ...
One of their best ideas is not playing the same track again in a 24hr
period so you don't get inane drivel repetitively assaulting your ears
(..just because it's Kylie's latest poppy chart offering etc !)
Sandie (getting used to the WuuuuOOOOuuooooowwwwwOOOuuuu noises!).../
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780.51 | | WOTVAX::FIDDLERM | My time in hell is spent with you | Wed May 05 1993 11:05 | 6 |
| I think its a great shame that Virgin have devoted an entire Radio
Station to nostalgia. There doesn't seem to be one show based around
new music, of whatever sort. If I ever have to listen to 'Bohemian
bloody Rhapsody' again in my life I will kill whoever plays it to me.
Mikef
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780.52 | | WOTVAX::GLYNNP | This space intentionally left blaNK | Wed May 05 1993 11:27 | 6 |
|
Anyone see that program on Channel 4 last night? The one that
basically came up with the conclusion that pop music is dead, or at
least waving it's little feet in the air.
Anyone have any thoughts on it?
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780.53 | | WOTVAX::FIDDLERM | My time in hell is spent with you | Wed May 05 1993 11:57 | 4 |
| Anyone have a summary? - I missed this. Who presented it? Is pop dead
or just eating itself?
Mikef
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780.54 | I saw it | UPROAR::PLOWMAND | "don't phone, it's just for fun" | Wed May 05 1993 12:21 | 14 |
| I saw it and agreed wholeheartedly - basically the argument is that the
"soul" (in the largest sense of the word) has gone out of the pop
industry, with record companies playing safe with "formula" hits.
Showing old videos of stuff around the mid-eighties - and contrasting
them with the techno-dance crap that fills the airwaves - was in itself
a very effective argument. The presenter put it down to the
"hedonistic" rather than "idealistic" attitude to life that pervades
amongst the young.
I hate to agree with him as it makes me feel middle-aged - I remember
my parents saying "this isn't music" when I was glued to TOTP or The
Old Grey Whistle Test... but I do.
Debs
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780.55 | | WELCLU::GREENB | I'm sick of parking cars. | Wed May 05 1993 12:21 | 7 |
| The programme was presented by famed ex-punk NME writer Tony Parsons,
and it's basic premise was that pop music is now running a pretty poor
second to computer games with today's yoof.
Bob
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780.56 | | WOTVAX::FIDDLERM | My time in hell is spent with you | Wed May 05 1993 12:33 | 6 |
| Sounds as though it was interesting. Depends on what they callpopmusic
tho' i guess. The stuff inthe charts? If you listen to Peelie, there
are still lotsof new bands making exciting new sounds,with very little
hope of chart success.
Mikef
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780.57 | When is XFM gonna get a license? | WELCLU::GREENB | Lots of little Osmonds | Wed May 05 1993 13:22 | 12 |
| ....and equally little chance of getting on any other radio
show/station apart from the Peel ghetto.
Personally (when I remember to listen to it), I like the kind of music
Mark Radcliffe plays on his "Out on Blue Six" show - a mix of new
stuff, punk, rock, garage (in it's original sense), psychedelia etc. I
just wish there was more than one hour a week of it.
Although I like some of the music played on Virgin, I get bored with
it's middle-of-the-road-ness after not very many records.
Bob
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780.58 | | WOTVAX::GLYNNP | This space intentionally left blank | Wed May 05 1993 13:36 | 17 |
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re .54
Yeah, I have to say I felt like that too. It was interesting how the
kids they interviewed felt that a computer game had better shelf life
than a record.
I think it was a bit narrow to just cite computer games as the problem
though. I for one just can't afford/don't get the chance to listen and
buy as many records as I used to. I did agree about how dance music is
purely an entertainment medium though; I'll listen to some dance in
clubs and enjoy it but when it comes to fitting music to moods, I like
indie/pop/punk to listen to at home/in the pub (where I spend most of
my time and money {see above about not being able to afford records
;-)}
Paul
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780.59 | | WOTVAX::FIDDLERM | My time in hell is spent with you | Wed May 05 1993 14:08 | 11 |
| Mark Radcliffe - yes, his show is one of the few things I have to
listento, brilliant stuff. He does some shows on Radio 5 also, but not
as good or way out as Blue 6.
Cost certainly has a lot to do with things, I only buy a small amunt
compared to what I used to.
Hmmmmm
Mikef
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780.60 | Born Again | AYOV16::SROBERTSON | | Wed May 05 1993 14:19 | 9 |
| I didn't see the programme but always feel that whenever there is a
resurgance of oldies the "critics" blame it on "the current state of
the music" - but how far do they look - not past the top 40.
If as said you look there is almost always good music comimg out - it's
just that it normally doesn't get into the charts.
Anyway sometimes it's good to see a resurgance - can't do much harm -
unless it's Abba!
Stuart
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780.61 | | JURA::PELAZ::MACFADYEN | everything's alright forever | Wed May 05 1993 17:55 | 7 |
| Seems to me that this thing about computer games being bigger/better/grabbier
than pop is just a standard media-clever-bastard thing to say these days,
something to get a pushy writer out of music papers and into Sunday
supplements. The music's still there.
Rod
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780.62 | < | RUTILE::LETCHER | New Horizons | Fri May 07 1993 14:23 | 8 |
| But it does all sound the same...
Yesterday, driving over from EHQ to Ferney (how provincial, ed.) I
heard a song by the Beatles (Candyskins), a song by David Bowie (Suede)
and a song by Charlie Parker (Charlie Parker, overdubbed with "the loud
minority").
Piers
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780.63 | | JURA::PELAZ::MACFADYEN | diggity damn right | Sun May 09 1993 11:24 | 3 |
| Face it, Piers. You're just too old for all this 'popular' music.
Rod
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780.64 | | JGO::KWIKKEL | The dance music library 1969-20.. | Tue May 11 1993 16:07 | 4 |
| A Q: How is KISS-FM in London making out these days?
Anything interesting to tell? ;^)
Jan.
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780.65 | | ARRODS::DUTTONS | | Tue May 11 1993 16:55 | 12 |
| KISS-FM seems to be very succesful, but it's way too DJ-oriented for
my taste.
Quite a lot of hardcore late at night and in the morning; David Rodigan
does a lovers/classic show at lunchtime and more Jamaican/reggae in the
evening. For a while they had comedy acts (Craig Charles etc) on with
Steve Jackson (the cocky morning DJ). They certainly get London's
best/worst phone-ins.
The UK still needs a decent music-oriented non-classical station.
PLEASE!
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780.66 | OK so its not music but... | COMICS::SHELLEY | Don't get mad, get even. | Mon Aug 05 1996 13:54 | 15 |
| What was that "UFO watch" all about last night at 7pm on Radio 1 ?
I caught a few minutes of it. Nicky Cambell and Patrick Moore were
going on about be invaded by UFOs the size of the Isle of Wight.
They even had spoof newsbeat items on it and very poor impressions of
John Major and Tony Blair.
It was clearly a rip off of Orson Wells and War of the Worlds and the
interest caused by the Independance Day film.
A bigger pile of cack I have never heard and it surprises me that
Patrick Moore would have anything to do woth it (although I know he
is a great debunker of UFOs).
Royston
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780.67 | | CHEFS::FIDDLER_M | The sense of being dulls my mind | Mon Aug 05 1996 14:34 | 8 |
| I agree - I turned on because I was expecting a documentary style show.
What we got was basically an hour long ad for Independance Day. And a
not very good one at that....I hope the people responsible for ID paid
up for all that advertising...
garbage city
m
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780.68 | Apologies - Independence Day | CHEFS::FIDDLER_M | The sense of being dulls my mind | Tue Aug 06 1996 10:27 | 1 |
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780.69 | | CHEFS::UKARCHIVING | Bearer of knackered golden dog | Wed Nov 06 1996 09:22 | 12 |
780.70 | | POMPY::LESLIE | Andy, living in a Dilbert world | Wed Nov 06 1996 09:50 | 1 |
780.71 | | POMPY::LESLIE | Andy, living in a Dilbert world | Wed Nov 06 1996 09:52 | 5 |
780.72 | And Kenny Everett had a morning programme | ESSB::IMPORTS | | Wed Nov 06 1996 10:01 | 8 |
780.73 | | WOTVAX::STONEG | Temperature Drop in Downtime Winterland.... | Wed Nov 06 1996 10:05 | 8 |
780.74 | | CHEFS::BEATRX::GOLDY | Velvet goldfish | Wed Nov 06 1996 10:30 | 5 |
780.75 | | POMPY::LESLIE | Andy, living in a Dilbert world | Wed Nov 06 1996 11:01 | 3 |
780.76 | | WOTVAX::STONEG | Temperature Drop in Downtime Winterland.... | Wed Nov 06 1996 11:46 | 4
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