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Conference marvin::uk_music

Title:The UK Music Conference
Notice:Welcome (back) to UK_MUSIC on node MARVIN.
Moderator:RDGENG::CROOK
Created:Mon Mar 28 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1381
Total number of notes:39269

717.0. "Please go away" by IGETIT::BROWNM (set prof/pers=) Tue Aug 07 1990 19:10

    I watched Knebworth 90 last night.  I just wanna know whe Cliff, Hank,
    Phil, Francis, Eric etc are gunna die?  Over the hill, past it, boring,
    establishment are some of the words/phrases I'd use to describe these
    people.
    
    I have to admit they are all bloody good performers and they've done
    some absoloutely classic songs in the past, but they're never going to
    do anything new and I wish they would hang their guitars and microphone
    stands up.
    
    
    matty
    
    ps.  I fell asleep too.  I did try to enjoy it.
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717.1LARVAE::BRIGGSThey use computers don't they?Tue Aug 07 1990 19:5022
    My views:
    
    Cliff continues to produce high quality hit records, well produced well
    sung and still original. Look at the stuff he's produced over the last
    7-8 years. Having said this I am not a particular fan but I have to
    hand it to him.
    
    The Shads? Well I am a big fan but have to agree. Hank is capable of SO
    much more (as evident on some of the early mid-70s material he
    produced. However, I understand Hank is 110% Jehovah's witness and only
    continues to record as a source of income. Hence the obligatory annual
    album of covers and predictable live performances (minimal effort
    required for maximum financial gain).
    
    Clapton? Well what can he do without material? Great guitarist but
    really, to call him a songwriter. Clapton fans extol Wonderful Tonight.
    Yes, niceish song but Cliff would never have even considered it as a
    single. The only REAL good thing he's written was Laydown Sally. Great
    song, great backing. I AM serious here!
    
    Richard
    Basingstoke
717.2Yawwwnnnn!CHEFS::PRICETMissing College life like....Wed Aug 08 1990 10:256
    
    I watched some of it, best cure for insomnia known to man, Yawn, I feel
    tired just thinking about it.
    
    Tim
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717.3no mention yet, or were you all asleep by then ?IOSG::STANDAGEWed Aug 08 1990 10:266
    
    What did people think of Floyd at the end ?
    
    K.
    ~~
    
717.4BURYST::EDMUNDS$ no !fm2r, no commentWed Aug 08 1990 10:5610
    There's plenty of TV I don't like. There's plenty of music I don't
    like. That doesn't mean I think it should not be on TV, or exist as
    music. (I'd be perfectly happy if every soap stopped yesterday).
    
    Cliff may not appeal to you (or me as it happens), but he does appeal
    to a huge audience - he's had over 100 singles released in this country
    and every one of them has reached the top 30. Not a bad record: one
    that Madonna et al stand no chance of equalling. Obvioulsy a lot of
    people like these performers...prehaps a little tolerance and less
    selfishness, Matty?
717.5IOSG::WILCOCKALook, just Trust me .....Wed Aug 08 1990 11:188
    re .3
    
    I was there, lots better. But In total, I thought the programme was
    Fairly good, but missed most of the highlights off (eg. Paul Mc Cartney 
    doing Live and let die - wicked, and the rest of the Floyd.)
    
    	A.
    
717.6What about Production?LARVAE::BRIGGSThey use computers don't they?Wed Aug 08 1990 11:3311
    
    What IS impressive these days is the actual TV production and camera
    work. Use of small hand held cameras, that aerial camera thingy,
    ultra-wide angle lenses and superb sound quality. These were all in
    evidence on the Knebworth programme. I first really took notice of
    these techniques on the Mandela broadcast. You could actually work out
    the fingering Clapton was using AND even see the make of pickups he
    had. I somehow can't believe the sound quality when you're actually
    there is as good.
    
    Richard
717.7.IOSG::WILCOCKALook, just Trust me .....Wed Aug 08 1990 12:0914
    > I somehow can't believe the sound quality when you're actually
    > there is as good.
    
    The sound, obviously, is not as good, but the programme just didn't 
    capture the atmosphere, which is probably why some people found it
    boring. Although I do agree with the filming, which was a lot more
    professional and pleasing to watch than some concerts I could mention.
    eg. Roger Waters at the Berlin Wall, but there are other reasons why
    that was bad when it shouldn't have been whoch I won't go into.
    
    	Andy.
    
    		
    
717.8And this week's benefit is for ....AYOV27::IMCPHERSONIt just came off in my hand!Wed Aug 08 1990 14:0837
    I don't know about anyone else, but I'm getting slightly tired of
    all of these 'big concerts'.
    
    When Live Aid was on I was glued to the screen for the full 10-12
    hours, or whatever it was.
    I even sat through acts that I was not particularly interested in
    as there was a 'buzz' about the whole event.
    
    It seems now that we are having one of these Concerts in aid of
    whatever every couple of months and they have lost something.
    I now tape them and use the old 'fast forward' to the acts I like.
    
    The Mandella one was ok, Knebworth appeared bland watching on the
    television (I'm a great Eric fan and although the notes and voice
    was there the set lacked something)
    
    And as for the John Lennon Tribute ! I'm glad John wasn't around
    to see it.
    
    Maybe these Concerts are in the 'you had to be there man!' class
    and TV should get back to showing concerts by individual artists
    so that the artist can play whatever he/she wishes to play to his/her
    audience so that the viewer can get the best of a performance.
    
    I'm not a great fan of Sir Cliff. Yea the guys got a good voice
    and old Hank can play some licks, but I felt slightly sorry for
    the guy giving it his all to a crowd who appeared to be humouring
    him while waiting for 'real rock' artists to take the stage.
    
    Don't mean to offend anyone, just my opinion.
    
    Ooops sorry, should I possibly have used the old 'flame on'.
    
    Iain
    
    Maybe I'm just upset because Sidney Devine didn't appear !
    (Only joking, honestly!)
717.9Compilation albums lead to compilation concerts?CHEST::SAXBYWed Aug 08 1990 16:3116
    Who's Sidney Devine?
    
    Anyway, I felt probably this Knebworth thing must have been better
    there than it looked/sounded on TV. I only watched up to about 11, but
    the only act I felt really gave a good account of themselves was Tears 
    for Fears who carried on regardless of the apalling downpour in which 
    they played!
    
    FWIW (not much I guess) I thought the Lennon concert was the best 
    'compilation' concert I'd seen since Live Aid, as all the acts tried
    to do something different with the old standards. Whether they added
    anything (Terence Trent D'Arby - who I normally have little time for)
    or not (Kylie - predictably!), at least they all made some kind of 
    effort not to just copy the (unbeatable, IMHO) original.
    
    Mark
717.10TASTY::JEFFERYTears of disbelief spilling out of my eyesThu Aug 09 1990 12:2810
I'm really tired of these big concerts as well. I don't think Pink Floyd
played at Knebworth though, wasn't it just David Gilmour, Nick Mason and
Rick Wright? ;-)

The best thing to do with these concerts is non participation.

I'm off to see The Wonderstuff, The Pixies and Sonic Youth soon.
No "Wonderful tonight" to be found!

Mark.
717.11YUPPY::PANESThe Apache Twins- 3 minute pop orgasmsThu Aug 09 1990 15:109
                       <<< Note 717.9 by CHEST::SAXBY >>>
             -< Compilation albums lead to compilation concerts? >-

>    Who's Sidney Devine?
 
  He's a Scottish C&W singer, who I believe used to work on local radio
in Glasgow. Interesting sort of cove - but his music.....

Stuart
717.12MACNAS::DKEATINGI couldn&#039;t give a Crying Gazza!Thu Aug 09 1990 16:013
.9�    Who's Sidney Devine?

    Scotland's answer to Daniel O'Donnell :-)
717.13D O'D rules!CRATE::SAXBYThu Aug 09 1990 16:429
    
    Re .12
    
    Ah, all is clear now...
    
    Where can I buy all his recordings on CD?
    
    Mark
    
717.14eh ?COMICS::LANGHarvey Lang UK/CSCThu Aug 09 1990 18:529
    re .11
    
>   He's a Scottish C&W singer
    
    I would be v-e-r-y careful about describing Steak & Kidney as a 'singer'
    
    Harv
    
    {Bring on Fran & Anna]