Conference marvin::uk_music

    I have the first single (`The Sun Rising'), that's pretty good.
    
    I read the review of their next single, which really put it down.  But
    it did say the LP contained some good tracks, and that they sounded
    like New Order.  That's indication enough for me to put it on my wanted
    list.
    
    
    matty
    
    ps.  I like their record covers.

Ta!

Didn't realise "Hello" was their second single. 

Yeh, the covers are different - dead way out man !

Peter

In last weeks NME Gedge stated that he felt sorry for the Beloved because they 
have tried to get chart success with so many different styles .. he reckoned
if they didn't have the chart hit with "Hello" their would have went thrash!

Stuartp

I looked in the local Woolies last night for mega bargains ... nowt!
Though I did get a free Buzzcocks CD because I bought 4 other CDs, this was
from an American company called "Ed and Mays CD Giveaway Store" in the Rosslyn
area of Boston ... check it out!

    
    
    <-- .1   The new album is called HAPPINESS, and Q Magazine gave
    it a **** rating.
    
    Q reader 

    They were on TC last night and stated New Order and Pet Shop Boys as
    big influences.  I spy a bit of Kraftwerk in there too!
    
    
    matty

    I wouldn't much like to get a **** rating.

    There's a track called `Your Love Takes Me Higher' (Depth & Desire mix)
    on a free Record Mirror EP, with this weeks mag.
    
    
    matty

Matt, thanks for that last bit of info...Must get that tomorrow providing
they're not sold out. 

Bought the album on CD today (no extra tracks sob, sob, sob.)
It is a reet mixed bag. I agree when they say its something along the lines
of New Order and Pet Shop Boys (very pianoey in places).The second track 
features a Human Leaguish sounding girl and the track Scarlet Beautiful has the 
lead singer putting on his guttural voice, sounding remarkably like Holly 
Johnson.

On the whole, I'm not disappointed with this.....yet !

    The tracks on the EP is apparently and exclusive remix of their 1st
    single.
    
    
    matty

Managed to get the original CD single of "Your Love Takes Me Higher" yesterday
which contains much better remixes than the ones featured on the re-release CDS
(original cover features a group photo - how they used to look!, the re-release 
a drawn hand...in that style again!)
Original CDS has the track "Paradise" which I think is really really good.
I believe this was originally released in 1989 and flopped.

Also quite surprised to see another CDS by the band from 1988 which I just had 
to buy! The band name then was just simply "Beloved" rather than "The Beloved".
The main track on this is "Loving Feeling" (not on the new album) which was a 
real pleasant surprise. I features a girl singing, and frankly its impossible to 
keep your feet still listening to this one. Second track on this is "Acid Love"
which has voice-overs making it sound rather like an acidic version of Yello.
Third and final track is a 6 min+ remix of "Loving Feeling which is exceptional.
Incidentally, this track begins with someone snorting something!

I really rate this band. I've got the feeling a lot of credit is also due to 
their producer Staveley-O'Duffy. They are extremely talented in the way they 
can come up with tracks in such completely different styles.

[Thanks goes to Craig Harris for telling me about these two early CDs, on sale 
at Hott Waxx in Warrington]

Band playing at the Hacienda soon........

Peter

Just seen Adrian's Record Store catalogue. Found out that Happiness is not their 
first LP! They must have spawned quite a few singles from this LP "Where it is".
"This Means War", "Surprise Me", "Hundred Words" and "Happy Now" all listed.
Never heard of any of these.

On ringing the store, however, all are deleted !!! So now I'm angry that I have 
found out they exist yet I can't get them. 

"Time After Time" released today in all usual formats and also a limited
edition 7" pic disc in 3D sleeve. 

This isn't their strongest track, but nevertheless, should do well.

    Peter, do you like Scarlet Beautiful?  I reckon it would go Top 8ish

Yeh - it surprised me when they released Time After Time because there are much 
stronger tracks on the album like the last two. Methinks they will release the 
last track at Christmas time because of the sleigh bell intro.

Scarlet Beautiful would have been a better single. Sounds a bit like Holly 
Johnson...but much better... a a brill intro...

Managed to get an early 12" at Our Price in Manchester:
Surprise Me/Having Fun/Forever Dancing- main track features a bit of sampling 
from Madonna's Holiday... cheek or what.... 

Peter

>>> Yeh - it surprised me when they released Time After Time because there are
>>> much stronger tracks on the album like the last two. 

	I guess that I'm alone.  I reckon that Time After Time is the best song
on an album choc-full of excellant songs.  

-Brian.

Don't you think "Don't You Worry" is a bit wimpish ???

Still think "Hello Dolly" is the best mix they have done to date.

    I like Don't You Worry, but dislike Hello Dolly!  Bloody good LP
    though.  I reckon they could be the new Pet Shop Boys.  Whatever
    happened to the Pet Shop Boys?  I've looked for some early 12"s but
    can't fond any.
    
    
    matty

Jon is currently working on mixes for Erasure, E-Zee Possee and Propaganda !!!

    Peter,
    
    Can U type a list of the Beloved records you have, or have seen.
    
    
    matty

I have:	
		Happiness CD
		Hello - 7" boxed
		Hello - CDS
		Hello - 12"
		Hello - 12" remix
 		The Sun Rising - CDS
		The Sun Rising - 12" remix
		Your Love Takes Me Higher - CDS (original release)
		Your Love Takes Me Higher - CDS re-release
		Your Love Takes me Higher - Shaped Pic Disc
		Loving Feeling - CDS
		Forever Dancing - 12"
		Time After Time - 12"
		Time After Time - CDS
		Time After Time - 7" Pic Disc in 3D sleeve (nice !)

I now exists and want:
		
		Forever Dancing - 7"
		Loving Feeling/Acid Love - 7" Poster Sleeve
		This Means War - 7"

		Happy Now/Righteous Me/Kiss Goodbye/Pennies Came - 12"
		Hundred Words/Slow Drowning/In Trouble - 12"
		Loving Feeling/Feeling Lovely Mix/Acid Love - 12"
		This Means War/Let It Begin/Saints Preserve Us - 12"

		Where It Is - LP + free 7"

I am looking for remix 12" of Time After Time but I don't believe it's been
released.

    Thanks alot!

More on Jon Marsh working with Erasure...

Apparently he was asked by them to choose any song from their back-catalogue 
to remix... supposedly just for club use.

Methinks Mute are planning a remix album of Erasure's greatest hits.

    They've already done that, well sort of.  ie The 2 Ring Circus.
    
    I hate it when they put out these remix LP's.  The only 3 good remix
    LP's have been PSB's `Disco', which was only #3.49 when it came out,
    and Madonna's `You Can Dance' 'cause it was all joined together (making
    it good for parties) and contained a great new track ("Spotlight"),
    though the price was too steep.  Then there's the "2 ring Circus" by
    Erasure which wasn't anything spectacular except for the fact that the
    vinyl version came as 2 45rpm 12", and the CD and cassette contained 9
    extra live tracks, though these had already been released on the 3
    "Circus" 12"s.  
    
    Just for posteririty I'd like to say, PSB's "Disco" contains a track
    called "In The Night" which has since been used as the theme music for
    the Clothes Show, and also "Paninaro" which was released on 12" only in
    Italy and made No1!!!  Great tracks both.
    
    Then the Erasure LP.  On side 'd' there are 3 orchestral versions on
    som slow LP tracks that are really worth listening to.  Great
    arrangements by Flood (a Mute person).  You can only admire Erasure for
    this.
    
    
    matty

>>>    I hate it when they put out these remix LP's.  The only 3 good remix
>>>    LP's have been ...

	Disputed!  Have you heard the Imagination remix album.  Great stuff!
	(OK, so I got it for �2.99, but that's got nothing to do with it -
	can you tell when I'm lying? :-).  Great versions of lottsa their hits,
	I particularly like "Body Talk".  I can't remember what the album is
	called, something like "Imagination - All the hits".  Great title, eh?

-Brian_who_hasn't_been_drinking_at_all

P.S.  I'm not a chart watcher, so could someone out their tell me what happened
to "Time After Time"?  Have The Beloved achieved the public acclaim they so 
richly deserve?

   I heard Time After Time for the first time on the radio a few
   nights ago.  I am now very tempted to purchase it.

    RE-2.  I don't like Imagination, especially after I say them do `Body
    Talk' live at some Italian festival last year.  I think it was the
    supposed to be the new version, similar to that on their remix LP.
    
    RE. last 2.
    I demand to know why the Beloved single hasn't sold!  There's no
    justice.
    
    
    matty

Just managed to get hold of the original release of Your Love Takes Me Higher
(1989). This features three really good mixes which I have never heard before:
The Pod Went Pod Mix, Magic Juan's Sex Mix and a DJ mix...
...Still trying to track down some of their really early stuff when they were
a four-piece.

Peter

    I got the re-release 12" and wasn't impressed with any of the 4 mixes,
    nor the mix on that RM EP either.  I DO like the normal 7" version
    though.
    
    To be honest I'm not into any of the mixes on that tape you did me, but
    I just like the plain songs.  I really like Scarlet Beautiful.  That's
    got to be in my top ten songs of the year, maybe the top 5 even!
    
    
    matty

Managed to track down a white label promo copy of their first LP "Where It Is"
complete with press release for a princely sum of �12.

This is a compilation of all their independent releases.

Continuing their trend of working in different styles, savour the delights of
Big Country-sounding guitars on one track and a Matt Johnson-like voice on 
another! But the overall sound is like that of The Smiths, which isn't a bad 
thing.

Not as instantly catchy and rich as "Happiness", nevertheless an interesting
album.

Peter

Where It Is (compilation LP of all their independent releases on Flim Flam)
has been re-issued. CD version features 2 extra tracks comparing it to original 
vinyl LP release. Unsure if this has ever been available on CD before.

Peter

Matty's already announced the new single "It's Alright Now" available on 29th
October. Unfortunately there will be no remix 12".

There's a new LP out in November called "Blissed Out" which contains various 
remixes, mixes and hard to obtain tracks. 8 tracks on the LP, 11 on the CD and
16 on the cassette.

Also a video containing the clips from "Hello", "Time After Time"(proper version
ie. "dirty" version !), "Your Love Takes Me Higher", and "The Sun Rising".

Anyone managed to track down the US 12" of "Sun Rising" on Atlantic Records 
which contains 4 new mixes of "The Sun Rising" and 2 of "Up Up And Away" ?

Peter

Anybody heard of System 7 ? System 7 is a group made up of Steve Waddington and 
various producers (Paul Oakenfold etc)
 
I bought the CD single of Habibi at the weekend and I'm quite impressed although
the vocals are a bit SEALish. 

Has anybody heard the album, and if so would you recommend it ? 

    I think the most important point about System 7 is that the person
    behind it all is Steve Hillage.  the album got OK reviews (8 out of 10
    ish).  Buy it, then you can tape a copy for me ;-)
    
    Mikef

    
    I didn't know there was a Beloved note. Tedious trivia follows...
    
    Jon Marsh used to be my brother's best mate at school when they were
    both about nine. Mind you, he used to be just plain old Jonathan Marsh
    back in them days.
    
    Trevor

Check out the C'est La Vie mix of "Celebrate your Life" on the latest 12"...

if you like a good pianoey tune and a beat that gradually builds from a tap to a 
stomp...excellent.

    
    	Just got conciense which has thier single "Sweet Harmony"
    
    	Some excellent trax on the album - very mellow and relaxing.