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218.1 | | BONK::CHEQUER | Simple, Don't you forget about me. | Wed Sep 28 1988 15:39 | 4 |
| Here's a vote for Erasure, but I'v never seen them live. But you
never know... one day.
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218.2 | No-one could be so low down-to give in to sweet temptation-WANNA BET??!! | CHEFS::MICOTTIN | | Wed Sep 28 1988 18:50 | 7 |
| Well worth seeing! As you can probably tell by the title of this
topic, they did their version of `Oh L'amour'(alla Dollar),and it
was superb! What I didn't know was that they actually recorded it
first! How dare Tereze Bazar etc. ruin an excellent song like that!
Vicky
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218.3 | | KERNEL::JWILLIAMS | | Wed Sep 28 1988 18:54 | 13 |
| I reckon their new single - can't remember the name of it though
- is one of their best.
When they first started out, their music and his voice was so similar
to that of Alison Moyet that I was angry with the other chap for
splitting up with her to produce another protege, but I think its
getting better as they go on.
Like listening to the music but don't particularly care for watching
their videos or seeing them live. They don't seem to add much value
to the song.
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218.4 | Bet you give me no soul! | CHEFS::MICOTTIN | | Thu Sep 29 1988 13:26 | 6 |
| The `other guy' is Vince Clarke, and he really is the `Brains' behind
the group. Andy Bell is really just a *floozy* who can sing pretty
well, but it's Vince who writes the brilliant songs.Their new single
is `A little respect' by the way. Good stuff!!
Vicky
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218.5 | not so | 45610::BROWNM | | Mon Feb 13 1989 14:43 | 6 |
| you swine,
andy bell also writes the songs, infact all of them are co-written
by each other. andy also advertises erasure, unlike vince.
mattyb
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218.6 | Great live! | KURMA::CBAILLIE | | Thu Sep 07 1989 14:36 | 5 |
| I saw Erasure at the Glasgow Barrowlands 2 years ago and they were
great. They are playing a gig at the S.E.C.C. on 2/3rd December this
year and I can't wait to see them again....
Chris
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218.7 | | SUBURB::SCOTTV | I couldn't quite believe it! | Thu Sep 07 1989 18:15 | 5 |
|
Am going to the NEC one --- can't wait!
Vicky
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218.8 | Erasure Single Sales!! | KURMA::CBAILLIE | | Tue Sep 12 1989 12:45 | 25 |
| Calling all Erasurettes!!!!!!
Here's a list of all Erasure's singles to date:
Title Approx. Highest Chart
Sales Position
Crackers International (E.P) 400,000 2 (1980)
Sometimes 375,000 2 (1986)
A Little Respect 210,000 4 (1988)
The Circus 180,000 6 (1987)
Victim of Love 140,000 7 (1987)
Ship of Fools 130,000 12 (1988)
It Doesn't Have To Be 125,000 12 (1987)
Chains of Love 90,000 11 (1988)
Who Needs Love (like that) 25,000 55 (1985)
Oh l'amour 24,000 85 (1986)
Heavenly Action 9,000 100 (1985)
And the albums.............
The Innocents 630,000 1 (1988)
The Circus 560,000 6 (1987)
Wonderland 120,000 71 (1985)
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218.10 | What's it called.....? | KURMA::CBAILLIE | | Wed Sep 13 1989 11:55 | 9 |
|
Who heard the new Erasure single on the radio this morning?
It's good, in't it?
But what is it called...........?
Chris.
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218.11 | Mmmm...Liked it I think... | SUBURB::SCOTTV | I couldn't quite believe it! | Wed Sep 13 1989 13:02 | 9 |
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Something about Drums...`Drumbeat' or something like that
- like a lot of Erasure stuff, I didn't like it at first, but, as
usual, I'll be singing it and praising it after the third or fourth
hearing - there have only been two of theirs I haven't liked, out
of all of their albums: Sexuality and Pennslyvania 65000.
vIcky
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218.12 | That's it!!!!!! | KURMA::CBAILLIE | | Wed Sep 13 1989 13:47 | 9 |
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I remember now.....it's called DRAMA!
Re 218.11
What's Pennslyvania 65000???????????????
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218.13 | | SUBURB::SCOTTV | I couldn't quite believe it! | Wed Sep 13 1989 16:23 | 4 |
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I'ts on `The Innocents' - basically instrumental - Don't like
it....
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218.14 | Oh that!!!!!1 | KURMA::CBAILLIE | | Thu Sep 14 1989 09:40 | 6 |
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Oh, Sixty Five Thousand......nah don't like it either. I do like Weight
of the World though.
Now THAT'S good....................
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218.15 | | SUBURB::SCOTTV | I couldn't quite believe it! | Thu Sep 14 1989 12:58 | 6 |
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Do I know it?
Which Album?
V
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218.16 | Erasure Information Services Ltd!!! | BHUNA::CBAILLIE | | Thu Sep 14 1989 14:44 | 10 |
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Course you know it.
It's on The Innocents.
It's the last song and is dead good!!!!!
What else do you like?????????????????
Chris.
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218.17 | | SUBURB::SCOTTV | I couldn't quite believe it! | Thu Sep 14 1989 16:53 | 9 |
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have you got the tape or CD? I know there are several extra
numbers on them that aren't on the LP, which I've got!! I'd appreciate
you recording it for me actaully - can I send you a tape?
V
S - what's your name?
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218.19 | ITeC | AYOU08::BELL | | Thu Sep 28 1989 15:40 | 4 |
| hi Chris it's Brian Gotch from ayrshire itec here how are you getting
on up in south queensferry.
Brian fae ayrshire itec.
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218.20 | Polite request | BURYST::EDMUNDS | $ no !fm2r, no comment | Thu Sep 28 1989 18:08 | 1 |
| Please keep personal notes to others to mail - thanks.
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218.21 | Next album? | KURMA::CBAILLIE | | Wed Oct 11 1989 12:33 | 6 |
|
When is the 5th Erasure album due for release? I've heard it is the
middle of October.................any more info.
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218.22 | WILD! | SUBURB::SCOTTV | Flying High Tonight | Fri Oct 13 1989 13:08 | 4 |
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Indeed, something like the 14th I believe - called `WILD',
and it probably will be...
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218.23 | GO GET IT!!!!!!!!!! | YUPPY::WILDERD | The Wild Thing | Mon Oct 16 1989 12:08 | 3 |
| It's out TODAY .
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218.24 | Be the 10th caller on 557 4000! | KURMA::SPOTTER | Info Freako | Mon Oct 16 1989 23:15 | 11 |
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I won the new Erasure album this morning on Radio Forth, unfortunately
I don't have a turntable and don't think I will ever buy another, so
it's up for grabs at a mere 4 squid ... I'm not posting it!
For anyone interested the question I answered were:
1. Apart from Erasure, Yazoo, and Depeche Mode what other group
dir Vince Clarke have a hit with?
2. Which band does Andy Bell sing for? --- a real toughie!
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218.25 | Wild thing | KURMA::CBAILLIE | | Tue Oct 17 1989 11:42 | 11 |
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Well, who's bought Wild!?
I bought the CD last night and was quite surprised that it only lasts
38 mins, but on first hearing it sounds quite good. There are 11 tracks
on it including Drama!, Piano Song, Blue Savanna, Brother and Sister,
Star(?), and I think one called 2000 miles.
Has anyone else bought it yet....and if so, what do YOU think?
Chris fae South Queensferry near Edinburgh, Scotland.
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218.26 | | HPSRAD::ARTHUR | 50,000,000 Elvis fans can't be wrong! | Tue Oct 17 1989 15:10 | 3 |
| Stuart I don't want your record however Vince Clark may have had a hit with
The Assembly (with Fearghal Sharkey formerly of the Undertones) with "Never
Never". Wasn't Clarke also in The Silicon Teens?
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218.27 | | SUBURB::SCOTTV | Flying High Tonight | Tue Oct 17 1989 18:03 | 5 |
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Didn't Vince write `I bet you never listened to your father'
for Feargal Sharkey?
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218.28 | In Concert | KIRKTN::CBAILLIE | | Fri Dec 15 1989 10:31 | 13 |
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I went to see Erasure at the S.E.C.C. in Glasgow on 3rd December. The
concert was excellent. They sung 24 song (all of Wild! and a mixture
of all their "old" hits).
Andy was as weird as ever, Vince (never-to-smile) was his usual cheery
self! The stage was a desert island (I think!) with massive plants
all around blowing out smoke. They were especially good singing
Supernature and Drama!
LONG LIVE ERASURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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218.29 | Our eyes are open, when it suits us to see. | STAR::VILETT | Letters to a friend | Fri Dec 22 1989 18:13 | 55 |
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Oh thank God thank God thank God...
I FINALLY found the topic where all the Erasure fans have been hiding.
After searching through all of RADIO_RADIO and NEW-WAVE I was pretty
sure there just wasn't one. But now I just noticed the "Oh L'amour"
title and said "nah, couldn't be".
I hope no one minds that I'm participating, just because I don't live
in England (sometimes wish I did, though)...I have been following
Erasure ever since I heard "Oh L'amour" one late night on a college
radio station in the summer of '86 and I thought "hey, that's a cool
song, who are these guys?" Little did I know, it was once again Vince
Clarke in action (at the time Depeche Mode and Yaz (sorry, I have to
call them "Yaz" because I'm from the U.S., something about a copyright
infringement with a country music label, I think) were a couple of my
favorite bands - still are, come to think of it) Anyway, went out the
next day and managed to find one copy of "Wonderland" hidden away in a
record store and bought it on a whim. After one listen I was completely
hooked.
I bought "The Circus" the day it was released in the states. It is
still my favorite album of theirs, even though Oh L'amour is still my
all-time favorite song (that was such an incredible song, how come it
didn't make it very high up the charts?)...but Sometimes and Don't
Dance are ties for my second favorite. I then caught them on their 2nd
U.S. tour and was totally blown away. What a great show! Bell did
everything but set the stage on fire...it was there that I picked up a
flyer for the group "I Start Counting" who are available here only on
imports. Have any of you Brits seen/heard these guys? No one here has,
and I think they're great. But that's another topic.
Then came "The Two Ring Circus"...nice mixes, but I'd take the
originals any day. Then "The Innocents"...I liked it at first, but
pretty soon all the songs started sounding the same. Uh oh, I thought,
as all the singles from The Innocents started shooting up the charts, has
Erasure gone the way of so many of my other favorite groups? i.e.
reduced to boring poppy drivel by commercial success, although I will
agree with previous letters that Weight Of The World is a great song.
I did see that tour as well, though, and it was once again an excellent
show. Bell has a stage presence that is only rarely rivalled. So
I gave them the benefit of the doubt and later on my enthusiasm
returned with "The Hardest Part" and "She Won't be Home" on Crackers
International. What excellent songs!
Now "Wild!" is out and Erasure is once again my favorite group. I think
someone may have pointed out to them a while back that their songs were
all starting to sound the same, because "Wild!" shows a very refreshing
diversity of styles; each song on the album stands out from the others
in its own way. Good stuff.
All for now. Nice to be aboard.
Roland
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218.30 | SECC Concert - Jan 18 1990 | KIRKTN::FBLAKE | | Thu Feb 01 1990 12:55 | 14 |
|
I also went to see Erasure in Glasgow and I agree with Chris that they
were excellent. I was impressed by the stage set and the way Andy Bell
strutted about provocatively!!!!!
I hear that Blue Savannah, from Wild! is going to be their next single,
I really like that song.
The only thing that dissappointed me about the merchandise on sale at
the concert was that the Programme was not a programme, it was a song
book for Wild! which I already had as the CD insert. I didn't realise
this until I had paid my �4.00 and left the stall.
Fiona.
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218.31 | Gimmie gimme gimme | SHAPES::BROWNM | I get this feeling I'm in motion... | Thu Feb 01 1990 14:50 | 38 |
| I lost the Erasure note, but now I'm back.
I better indroduce myself as Mattyb the vinyl junkie. I have all
Erasure's 7" & 12" singles, including all but the first 3 limited
editions and `Crackers International' PT 2, plus a few German 12"s.
If anyone has the above record I would be glad to buy it.
I think that some of the best Erasure tracks are the b-sides, such as;
`She Won't Be Home'
`Love Is Colder Than Death'
`When I Needed You' ------ Their best song, easily.
`March On Down The Line'
`My Heart... So Blue' ------ This is also their best song.
`Don't Suppose' ------ This another best song.
`Soldier's Return'
`In The Hall Of The Mountain King'
`Supernature'
Plus I also think the following are perfect examples of what pop should
be;
`Phantom Bride'
`Reunion'
`Oh L'Amour' (Live)
`My Heart So Blue' (Orchestral)
`Spiralling' (Orchestral) --- I could die to the end of this song
`Brother And Sister'
`Imagination'
Well there you go!
If anyone wants a full discography, I will copy it in from Record
Collector Magazine.
Mattyb
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218.32 | "Oh, Blue Savannah song, woh woah blue..." | SHAPES::BROWNM | A sound formed in a vacuum... | Wed Feb 07 1990 12:17 | 4 |
| `Blue Savannah' has been released as a promo CD. Cost is �10 (in
Record Collector)
Mattyb
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218.33 | Go for it. | MASALA::SHARRIS | I'LL have a Babycham | Wed Feb 14 1990 13:19 | 5 |
| Managed to get my hands on the American Import maxi-single of Drama
at the weekend, It has two different mixes on it and if you get the
chance to buy this SNAP it up is great and very limited.
Steve.
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218.34 | Act 2 & Krucial mixes | SHAPES::BROWNM | _____Ecky Thump !_____ | Wed Feb 14 1990 16:27 | 4 |
| Does it have the same tracks as the 2 UK 12" singles?
matty
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218.35 | Blue Savannah | SHAPES::BROWNM | All is not enough | Thu Mar 01 1990 11:24 | 8 |
| Any predictions on where Erasure's new single will peak? I reckon No4.
I'm off to buy any format I can get my hands on tommorrow. The remix
12" is supposed to be great. Does anyone know what the b-sides are?
Are they any good?
matty
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218.36 | No, number 3! | KURMA::CBAILLIE | | Fri Mar 02 1990 12:38 | 10 |
|
I think it will get to no. 3 in the charts. I bought the 12" of Blue
Savannah yesterday and it really is great. The beat is faster than on
the CD version, so it is more dance-ish. The B-side has 2 songs, but I
can't think of their names something like NO G.D.F!
Also, I think the sleeve is really nice. It is very simple, but
effective. A blue (funnily enough!) sky with an orange sun.
Chris.
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218.37 | I like the sleeve too | SHAPES::BROWNM | Cuts like a blunt plum | Fri Mar 02 1990 13:07 | 5 |
| I just bought the 12". The b-sides are `Runaround On The Underground'
and `No G.D.M.'. Can't wait for the remix 12" and cassingles.
matty
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218.38 | Erasure live on TV | SHAPES::BROWNM | Cuts like a blunt plum | Fri Mar 02 1990 14:50 | 4 |
| Erasure live at the Docklands Arena BBC2 11pm March 9 (Friday night)
matty
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218.39 | argh! | SHAPES::BROWNM | Cuts like a blunt plum | Mon Mar 19 1990 10:32 | 9 |
| I'm annoyed at Mute. They put an exclusive mix of `Blue Savannah' on
the remix CD single. Why didn't they put it on the remix 12". I
haven't got a CD player, so what do I do?
I am glad that the record is No3. It must climb next week due to the
release of the remix 12". Erasure's first No1 maybe?
matty
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218.40 | "racing 'cross the desert.." | YUPPY::WILDERD | PARTYMAN | Mon Mar 19 1990 13:54 | 7 |
| Matty ,
I thought "Stop!" went to no. 1 , didn't it?
I thought the Savannah video was naff, can't he keep his shirt ON!
David
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218.41 | No | SHAPES::BROWNM | Cuts like a blunt plum | Mon Mar 19 1990 13:59 | 8 |
| No Stop made No2. So did Sometimes. What bugged me about the Crackers
International is that the radio only played Stop, and I think that's
what Mute wanted. But I, and my friends, thought that She Won't Be
Home was the best track and would have helped sell more with it being a
Christmassy song.
matty
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218.42 | Blue Savannah - limited edition 3rd 12" remix | SHAPES::BROWNM | This is MY decade! | Mon Mar 26 1990 10:38 | 16 |
| The 3rd 12" of `Blue Savannah' is an interesting item indeed! Tracks
are `Blue Savannah' Der Deutsche Mix I & II. The ...II mix is on the
remix 12" anyway, but for those who haven't got it yet it's a hip hop
type of beat which works OK with the song. But the ...I mix is in
Kraftwerk `Tour De France' style. I love it!!!
The package is nice too. The outer sleeve is a large (ie. about
13"x13") white card sleeve with Erasure `Blue Savannah' hand stamped on
the front. Also there is a stamp saying `Limited edition of 10000
copies". The sleeve inside it just a blank white sleeve and the record
itself comes in a paper bag, as do the others. The record is one sided
and the label is just white with black on it, making it look like a
promo. Nice item. Value should treble within 5 months.
matty
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218.43 | 2nd 12" remix | SHAPES::BROWNM | This is MY decade! | Mon Mar 26 1990 12:13 | 8 |
| The second 12" has the Der Deustche Mix II (hip hoppy version) on it
and also a remix of No GDM and an untitled remix of Runaround On The
Underground. These two mixes are also in the hip hop style.
This will rise in value too.
matty
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218.44 | I'm a phophet and I don't know it! | KIRKTN::CBAILLIE | | Wed Mar 28 1990 11:35 | 7 |
|
I was right.......it got to number 3 in the charts (Note 218.36)
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218.45 | Could've made it to the top | SHAPES::BROWNM | This is MY decade! | Wed Mar 28 1990 12:37 | 6 |
| It would have peaked higher if it had been helped with a little
promotion. They're on tour in the states at pres. and I didn't see any
displays in the shops. But then again, No3 ain't bad.
matty
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218.46 | Starry starry night... | PAKORA::CBAILLIE | | Fri May 18 1990 10:07 | 6 |
|
I see Star is the next single to be released from Wild! Any comments on
this.......
Chris.
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218.47 | This is what I think; | IGETIT::BROWNM | Technoterrible | Fri May 18 1990 13:06 | 9 |
| I think Star is OK, but I don't reckon it'll be as a big as Blue
Savannah. I just wish they'd release Brother And Sister - now that's
Top 3 material! The best thing about Erasure is their B-side, quality
AND quantity. I like the fact that the 12" of Star will probably come
with 2 new brilliant songs, both will be better than Star, and each
format will contain a different version.
matty
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218.48 | Supernature! | KURMA::CBAILLIE | | Fri May 18 1990 15:36 | 6 |
|
One of my favourite B-sides is the B side of You Surround Me -
* SUPERNATURE *
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218.49 | Value for money or what! | IGETIT::BROWNM | Technoterrible | Fri May 18 1990 18:48 | 6 |
| I love Supernature, but my favourites are `When I Needed You'
(Melacholic Mix) and Don't Suppose (Country Joe Mix). I reckon I have
about 20 non LP Erasure b-side.
matty
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218.50 | "From Moscow to Mars" | PAKORA::CBAILLIE | | Mon Jun 11 1990 12:34 | 10 |
|
Erasure - The Wild! Party
*************************
Erasure + 3 major acts
Milton Keynes Bowl
Saturday 1st September 1990
Tickets �15
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218.51 | remix 12" | IGETIT::BROWNM | Technoterrible | Mon Jun 11 1990 14:32 | 12 |
| I picked up the Star remix 12". It contains an `Interstellar Mix' and
a `Soul Mix' of the title track, plus a `24 hour Technicolour Mix' of
Drealike State. The Soul Mix is different to say the least, and the
record is well worth buying on this merit, but the other mixes are
terrible. Dreamlike State isn't stuck in my head, like most other
Erasure b-sides end up, and is quite forgettable. But that first mix
of Star is terrible, just like the mixes on the ordinary 12".
That's my opinion, but the cover is nice, and it is limited edition.
matty
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218.52 | Disco diva y flamenco chico ! | ARRODS::WHITEHEADJ | Change of mind | Tue Aug 14 1990 13:58 | 8 |
| Doesn't anybody like the song "La Gloria" from the "Wild !" album.
Definitely one of the best.
It's a complete p*ss-take of a flamenco style song and in concert,
Andy will dress up a la flamenco etc. Excellent fun.
Ariba ! Ariba ! Ariba ! Andale ! Kiss all them working day blues
away......
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218.53 | | IGETIT::BROWNM | Go away Iraqi invasion | Tue Aug 14 1990 18:36 | 7 |
| I hate it! When are they going to release `Brother An Sister'???
matty
ps I saw the Mexican Mix of Who Needs Love Like That for 50 quid at
Vinyl Addiction in Leeds!
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218.54 | Wanna go to a really Wild Party? | PAKORA::CBAILLIE | | Wed Aug 15 1990 15:56 | 14 |
|
Is anyone out there going to the Wild party in 2 weeks time at the
Milton Keynes Bowl? It should be a good show. I've heard Adamski are
one of the 3 support bands plus it is being broadcast live on Radio 1.
Is the Bowl a good venue for such a concert? I went to see Madonna
at Wembley and the sound system there was amazing, so I hope the
Bowl is just as good or I'll be megga disappointed 8-()
Chris.
P.S. Yes, I like La Gloria - sorry Matty!!
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218.55 | | IGETIT::BROWNM | Go away Iraqi invasion | Fri Aug 17 1990 09:46 | 8 |
| Wow Chris, you put a note!!!
I'm not going to the Milton Keynes do, so if any of you go could you
listen out any new songs they might do, and maybe give us a review of
the gig?
matty
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218.56 | Just l@@k! | KIRKTN::CBAILLIE | | Fri Aug 17 1990 10:15 | 5 |
|
What ya mean? I've put in LOADS of replies to this topic!
Chris.
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218.57 | | IGETIT::BROWNM | Go away Iraqi invasion | Fri Aug 17 1990 13:51 | 4 |
| re-1,
OK you're right. But you don't note anywhere else! And why is your
node named after a curry?
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218.58 | Voulez Vous, Ah Ha!! | KIRKTN::CBAILLIE | | Mon Aug 20 1990 12:03 | 7 |
|
I heard on the radio this morning that the next Erasure album is only
going to be cover versions of ABBA songs. Is this true or is it just a
wind up??
Chris.
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218.59 | | IGETIT::BROWNM | Go away Iraqi invasion | Mon Aug 20 1990 13:12 | 4 |
| Going on Erasure's past it could be true! I think it's actually a good
idea, though `Gimme Gimme' OTT = Over The Top!
matty
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218.60 | And they've covered up the sun... | XSTACY::NBLEHEIN | | Tue Oct 15 1991 15:46 | 13 |
| Well nobody's replied here in a while so it's time to set the ball
rolling again.
Has anyone bought the Chorus L.P. yet ? It came out yesterday. It
should debut at no.1 like the last two l.ps as they're on a roll at the
moment even by their standards.If it's as good as the two singles then
it should be a right cracker. Still where can they go from here?
Reactions please,
Niall
p.s. Could the person who posted the sales figures for the first three
l.ps please post an update . It's been a while and I'd like to see the
figures for Wild!.
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218.61 | Songbook?? | PETRUS::THERTH | confuse the cat ltd. | Wed Feb 12 1992 11:57 | 8 |
| I'm looking for the words of "wonderland".
I think that they haven't been included to the lp.
Is there something like a songbook available, maybe for keyboards?
thomas
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218.62 | A little request!!! | FILTON::PONTER_J | | Thu Aug 12 1993 14:50 | 13 |
| Hi there, its been a while since anyones replyed and I wondered if
anyone one out there could copy some of the tracks from note .31, these
are the ones I have never heard: Love is colder than death, March on
down the line, Don't suppose, Soldiers return and In the hall of the
mountain king. I would be very grateful as I have followed Erasure
since Sometimes was released, but never really had the chance to get
hold of all their stuff.
Cheers.
John
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218.63 | Not much help... | WOTVAX::GILLILANDP | Not very Tuna-friendly | Thu Aug 12 1993 17:40 | 7 |
| Well the noter in .31 left a couple of years ago (2 years ago last Monday
to be precise. Anybody know what happened to him? Last reference to him
that I can find in this conference is 611.1300) so he is unlikely to be
able to help you. As for copying the stuff, you'd probably be best
taking this up off-line if you get any offers.
Phil Gill.
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218.64 | | WOTVAX::FIDDLERM | Who's gonna pay for my crashed car | Thu Aug 12 1993 17:55 | 7 |
| re-1.
Whatever happened to Matty B? He took our addresses, and promised to
let us know when he was going to take the charts by storm, but I never
heard any more...
Mikef
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