Conference 7.286::golf

	...all of the above, except maybe cigars.  They can help keep the bugs
away in the spring.  Add cigarettes to the list.  Smokers think the whole world
is their ash tray and constantly litter.

	John

-Carts

-Clueless people (not necessarily bad golfers; some good 
 players are clueless, too...)

-Slow players

-"Outings" (ever get stuck playing behind one? 6-hour round
 guaranteed)

    How about Out of Bounds stakes (Boy do I hate em!)
    
    		-ed

    
    	Golfers who hit from the wrong side of the ball.  They're a major
    	pain in a scramble, ya know?  Always stepping on the coin!  Can't
    	talk technique or hooks & fades with 'em either since they use 
    	the opposite body parts as everyone else.  
    
    	And damn my luck, I'm playing with 2 of them this weekend!!
    
    	Only good thing about 'em is you can borrow a glove when it's 
    	really cold.
    

    
    	Anxiously awaiting Severiano's well thought out reply...
    
    

And you'll pay the drinks again!!

You didn't know that I can hit it both sides but play lefty just to through 
you off!!

    
    	Well, Tiger, I guess I was fortunate just once this weekend.  The
    	only time I didn't pay was when I was on your team!  
    	Watson

    People that generalize about people that smoke.
    
    I smoke. I don't light up around the greens/tees. Only smoke walking
    down the fairway. All butts go in my back pocket, not on course.

    re: -.1
    
    Hope you don't put your butts in back pocket while still lit! :-))))
    
    Things I would like to see banned on a golf course?
    
    	* Carts
    	* Slow players including those who are some 250 to 300 yards from
          the green and wait for the foresome on the green to get off
          before they dub their shots.
    	* Right handed golfers.
    	* People who can't add their scores "properly".
    	* People who think they know all the rules.
    	* People who don't know any rules.
    	* Golfers with poor etiquette.
    
    Jerry

	RE: .10
	good for you, that's the way it should be and I apologize for the
	generalization.

	-jt

    Add drinkers to the list. Drinkers think the whole world is their trash
    can and constantly litter. Beer cans,bottles,coffee cups, water
    bottles.
    

re: .13 drinkers
The same as with smokers, I don't think we want to generalize that are "drinkers" 
who trash a course.

I would change that to:

Anyone who throws garbage outside the bins, be it cans, bottles, paper, cigarette 
buts or cigar wrappings (which are as prevalent this days as the rest of other 
trash).

	   Now that you mention it... I wish they would get rid of those
	signs that say "No alcohol allowed."  And those empties `all' us
	drinkers leave laying around the fairway should be thought of as
	hazards!

					Tim

    I THINK WE SHOULD BAN ALL OF YOU MOANERS OUT THERE !!!
    
    WHY CAN YOU NOT JUST ACCEPT THE WAYS IN WHICH THE GAME HAS DEVELOPED
    AND IS PLAYED. YOU ARE ALL TRYING TO MAKE EXCUSES FOR YOUR OWN BAD
    GOLF. !!! SO TOUGH S*** !!!

I'm not sure exactly what "MOANERS" refer to. But I can think of it in two 
ways:

1. Some people expect "PERFECT" condition courses. Very, but very few public 
courses can come even close to that. So you're going to find hard pan, 
debris, divots, etc. So stop complaining about it or join Augusta National, 
the only course I know that closes for the summer and paints the water for 
the Masters.

2. Nobody has a perfect repeatable swing, not even the pros. So if you chunk 
or skull it, yeah, vent a little, but let go after that and don't blame 
anything else but yourself, but don't take yourself too seriously.

(And now the golf counceling office is closed ;-)

    RE: .16
    
    Who the heck is moaning? And what has this subject matter got to do
    with making excuses for "your own bad golf"? 
    
    I assume that your use of capital letters is intentional after seeing
    your comment "SO TOUGH S*** !!!" - real nice touch there. 
    
    Well, if you enjoy playing 6 hour rounds etc. the more power to you...
    have fun.
    
    Jerry

    
    RE .18
    
    I actually enjoy my 6 hour rounds of golf.
    In fact maybe we could arrange a game one day ?
    I have the pleasure of playing 6 hours and not being in the home or in
    the 19th which is a few good points.
    
    I apologise if I offended your intelligence by using BLOCK CAPITALS !!
    

re: .19

You enjoy 6 hour rounds? A 6 hour round in not "playing golf".
A 6 hour round is: "Hit your shot. Go to your ball. Wait 10
minutes while the people in front of you wait 10 minutes for
the people in front of them. Repeat until you're so frustrated 
that you wonder why you're not doing something else."

Then again, maybe we can find all the people who enjoy 6 hour
rounds, and open a special club just for them. Of course, they'd
have to install lights, because there wouldn't be enough daylight
to accomodate all the slow players...  

    Hi,
    
    We all love the game right? 

    
    I think we will keep our own preferences of how we enjoy our rounds of
    golf to ourselves and continue with the subject at hand; which in this
    case I think we have expressed our opinions clearly!
    
    Thank You !!
    
    

>    I think we will keep our own preferences of how we enjoy our rounds of
>    golf to ourselves and continue with the subject at hand; which in this
>    case I think we have expressed our opinions clearly!

There is very little censorship here, so you are entitled to your own 
opinion, as long as you don't get too personal.

For the most part people prefer to play at a constant pace, not a start/stop 
pace. That translates into a 4 to 4 1/2 hour round. So when you expressed 
that you prefer a 6 hour round, you are affecting the people behind you.

I'm sure you knew you were going to get some noise from that comment

    I realise that it affects others on the golf course, which is WHY we
    would life to see it banned from the golf course, and is also the
    talking point of this subject.
    
    I think the matter at hand is now resolved and that we shall continue
    with the original topic (RE.22)
    
    My sincerest apologies for any inconveniences I may have caused!!
    
    Thank You !
    

    what wrong with a 6 hour round...???
    
    
    
    
    	3 hours first 18,,,3 hours 2nd 18...
    
    sounds like a good day to me...{;^)