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Created:Tue Feb 15 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
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1195.0. "Digital Challenge Cup III" by MRKTNG::LUCIANO (RICH LUCIANO @TTB) Tue Apr 02 1991 12:48

    It's that time of year again....and as many people have reminded me, 
    I volunteered to organized this year's tournament.
    
    For newcomers, the Digital Challenge Cup is a two-person team event, 
    with women's and men's divisions.
    
    Before I get to far down the planning road, I'd like to solicit your 
    ideas about the following:
    	- Where do you want to hold this year's event
    	- When do you want to hold this year's event
    	- Tournament format (previous years tournaments were two person 
    	  scrambles)
    	- Comments as to your price constraints
    
    
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1195.1St Andrews here we come!!YUPPY::MCSKEANEPWed Apr 03 1991 08:5320
    
    How about Scotland!!!!
    
    Well that might be a bit expensive for most of you to attend so instead of
    you all coming over here I'll visit you instead. Count me in for the
    competition wherever you hold it.
    
    I'd prefer it to be somewhere in New Hampshire and sometime in
    September as I hope to be out there around about that time visiting
    some friends, but I'm sure I can change my plans if need be.
    
    As to the cost if I'm going to spend 400 dollars getting there and a
    few hundred on hotels who cares how much the round costs! 
    
    I'll look forward to seeing you all whenever and wherever its decided.
    
    POL.
    
    P.S. Just like the Ryder Cup, CC III is heading back to Britain!!!!
                                        
1195.2ASABET::VARLEYWed Apr 03 1991 11:148
    Re: 1 - Why not have it at Sky Meadow ? It's a real nice event, doesn't
    happen very often and is anticipated all year by the players. I haven't
    played in any, but I've been in the Golf Notes file for a while. It
    seems to me that most of you like to play good places, and for
    something like this you deserve a nice place - even if it costs a
    couple of bucks more. Just my opinion...
    
    --Jack
1195.3Sky Meadow was last year and it was great!NHASAD::BLAISDELLKeep an even keelWed Apr 03 1991 13:296
    
      Jack, we did have it at Sky Meadow last year.  The idea was to play
    a different *great* layout every year.  Yes, the "Fox" has been on the
    discussed list! ;^)   My vote is for Ferncroft this year.
    
    -rick
1195.4Allright RichWALTA::LENEHANWed Apr 03 1991 13:4336
    
    Hi Rich,
    
    	Great of you to pick up where Rick left off... tough act to
    	follow though , previous years went great! 
    
    	I'm sure you'll have as much success... if you keep everything
    	the same as the last two years you can't go wrong.
    
    	
    format
    
    	What I would suggest you do is simply extract Rick's tourny
    	description/format from CC II and input it here. 
    
    Where-
    
    	We played Marlboro CC the first time, then Sky Meadow... 
        and they both were well liked. It appears most of the golfers
    	who enter are from Mass - New Hampshire area so making the
    	tourny too far south/west of Mass may be a problem (?) .
    
    	Maybe we could keep it simple- and traditional- and take
    	turns playing Marlboro + Sky Meadow . Meaning Marlboro CC
    	is this years course?
    
    When-
    
    	We have been making October the time frame and it's been
    	awesome, most of the golfers can get an october day off
    	versus anything in the warmer months... I'd stick with
    	october... the view was spectacular last year at Sky.
    
    	hope this helped
    
    	Walta
1195.5ANY where,time,format,costTRACTR::OSBORNEWed Apr 03 1991 13:5511
    I'm easy... (With regards to your questions that is)
    
    I'll go any where
             "  time
    Play     "  format
    at       "  cost.
    
    Phil Feeney and I (The Ding Dongs), will be there raring to go.
    
    Regards,
    Stu
1195.6My VoteSOFBAS::SULLIVANWed Apr 03 1991 17:4714
    
    I Think we should pick another track. A new course every year brings
    variety to our golfing attributes.
    
    There are a number of real nice layouts round these parts
    
    I vote for the NEW Players CLub at Sterling!!
    
    I have walked this course already with a member it's awesome!!
    
    My $.02 - Dave Sullivan "Banquet Chairmen" Providing the new
                             organizer re-elects me of course.
    
    
1195.7Even The Country Will Be New To Me!YUPPY::MCSKEANEPThu Apr 04 1991 05:4317
    
    I suppose I could delay my trip till October, I was holding off booking
    anything till I knew the exact date of the CC III so that I could plan
    my trip around it. As long as its not too late in October then there
    shouldn't be a problem.
    
    As to the venue all the courses will be new to me but why don't you
    hold it on a course that the competitors haven't played too often so
    that no one has an advantage over anyone else.
    
    I may not win it but I'm sure going to enjoy myself playing and meeting
    all you other noters. One final point please make it a course
    reasonably close to a hotel so I wont have too much trouble getting
    there and so that I can have a few beers afterwards without worring
    about getting back.
    
    POL.
1195.8SCCHPSTEK::SCOTTThu Apr 04 1991 18:066
    
    
    I SAY STERLING COUNTRY CLUB...I'M A MEMBER AND IT IS AWESOME...
    
    ROGER
    
1195.9Someplace new (for me)MR4DEC::TDAVISFri Apr 05 1991 15:568
I'm a member of Sterling, too. And for that reason, I suggest we play 
Shaker Hills, the new course in Harvard. (I like to play courses I 
don't ordinarily get a chance to play--even if it means I loose some 
of the home-court advantage). Or how 'bout the Fox, or the Orchards, 
or...is anyone a member of Salem, Winchester, Belmont, Wellesley, or 
Vesper???

Tom
1195.10New for me tooFLOGER::STOPERAMon Apr 08 1991 07:225
    I agree with Tom in his last reply, I'd also like to play a different
    course, what about Nashuatawc (sp?) where the Seniors play? Or the
    course in Fitchburg.
    
    peter
1195.11VarietyWALTA::LENEHANMon Apr 08 1991 08:1312
    
    Reply the last few;
    
    Hi,
    
    		
    	Sounds like everyone wants to play a different course each year.
    We could make that a tradition of the tourny....
    
    Tom-  Why not play Sterling?  I've heard it's quite a course...
    
    	Walta
1195.12Purely selfish motivesMR4DEC::TDAVISMon Apr 08 1991 11:5418
                     <<< Note 1195.11 by WALTA::LENEHAN >>>
                                  -< Variety >-
    
>    Tom-  Why not play Sterling?  I've heard it's quite a course...
    
>    	Walta

It is a great course (or will be), but it's MY course. And, from my 
purely selfish position, I want to play someplace new and different. 
That isn't to say that it wouldn't be wise for the tournament 
organizers to ignore my wishes, but since the our ideas and opinions 
have been generously solicited, I'm going to take advantage of that.

Now, Walta, if you'd like to challenge me to a little nassau after 
I've played at S.C.C. long enough to gain a home-court advantage, 
that's another story...

Tom
1195.13SA1794::TENEROWICZTMon Apr 08 1991 12:0410
    As an alternative...  why not play the matchs at the home course of the
    winning league?  If you represent a dec facility that plays a specific
    dourse what better test than to have other dec facilites try and beat
    you at your home course.
    
    
    Tom
    
    P.S.  If you want to drop it in my back yard and play Westover CC in
    Chicopee Ma. I wouldn't fight...:-)
1195.14Times a wastin'WALTA::LENEHANMon Apr 08 1991 16:0625
    
    Reply .12
    
    	Hi Tom,
    
    		Nassau? Did I here nassau? :)
    
    	Send me mail when you want to play, I'll be waiting... and I
    	hope ready!
    
    
    
    To all -
    
    	Monoosnock CC in Leominster is my home course... it's only nine
    	holes  par 35. But it's fun to play, and challenging. It's
    	a private course and usually very easy to get nine in after
    	work... I play there just about everyday after work. If anyone
    	would like to join me sometime, I usually tee-off around 4:00
    	- 4:30 ... just send me mail. 
    
    	Boy is it nice out
    
    	Walta
    	
1195.15{monoosnock is a-ok}DECXPS::WEWINGWed Apr 10 1991 16:4610
    re. 1195.14
    
    i played monoosnock cc regularly last summer (a friend of my
    brother's is a member).  very nice 9 hole course.  very
    freindly staff.  COLD beer in the bar.
    
    if you get the chance to play, it is worth it.
    
    hack nicklaus
    
1195.16How about July???POBOX::RAHEJAWed Apr 10 1991 18:257
    Rich,
    
    If you set it up for July (right before 15th or after 18th), the Golf
    Gods have decided that it would be a very succesful event(I checked
    with them).
    
    dalipf
1195.17RecommendationMRKTNG::LUCIANORICH LUCIANO @TTBMon Apr 15 1991 18:1016
    I want to focus on a location and a date:
    
    How about........September 10 at:
    			- Skymeadow (about $50 per player)
    			- Ferncroft (about $75 per player)
    			- Crumin Fox (about $50 per player)
    			
    Other comments:
    	- Sterling CC.....I would not book it at Sterling.  I visited 
    			  there last week, still alot of dust and dirt.  
    			  It some maturing.  Not worth the $70 fee.
    	- Ipswich CC......It's open again, but no outings allowed. 
    
    My vote is to end discussion by end of April.....I'd like to go to 
    Crumpin Fox....I've never played there, but its getting some great 
    reviews.
1195.18we vote for the FoxFRAGLE::STUARTI&#039;m in a sandtrap and cant get outTue Apr 16 1991 12:187
    
    September 10th at Crumpin' Fox sounds good to us !!
    
    "the checks in the mail"
    
    team of Stadler and Watson (both with good showings at Augusta !)
    
1195.19PUTTER::WARFIELDGone GolfingTue Apr 16 1991 19:168
>    How about........September 10 at:
>    			- Skymeadow (about $50 per player)
>    			- Ferncroft (about $75 per player)
>    			- Crumin Fox (about $50 per player)

My vote would be for the Fox.  However you may want to consider the date.
That's the same week as the Digital Seniors. 
1195.20"Lookin' Forward to It..."ASABET::VARLEYWed Apr 17 1991 10:309
    Rich, I was in the golf shop at The Fox talking to Ron Beck when you
    called about the tournament. We'd love to have the DEC folks come up
    in the Fall - it's the prettiest time of year.
    
     Starting next Monday I'll be working at TTB with the NAS and Desktop
    Publishing folks (Ken McDonnell/Howard Woolff), so if there's any way
    I can help with information, etc. let me know.
    
    --Jack
1195.21ThanksMRKTNG::LUCIANORICH LUCIANO @TTBThu Apr 18 1991 09:117
    Thanks for the two previous comments:
    	1) Digital Seniors running the week of Sept 10
    	2) an offer to help organize the tournament
    
    1)	I agree; what are you feelings toward a late September 
    	tournament?  What about late August?
    2)	I can use any and all help which is offered
1195.22Check out, OAK HILL!!!JUPITR::PERCUOCOTue Apr 30 1991 17:265
    Oak Hill in Fitchburg is a beautiful track!!
    It's in awesome shape and very challenging
    to say the least. Just my $.02 worth.....
    
    Tom
1195.23new england ccTOLKIN::HOGANThu May 23 1991 14:464
    
    How about a place called the New England C.C.. It is located in the
    Franklin area. It's believe Hale Irwin desinged it and it supposed
    to be an excellent track.
1195.24New England CC, great course, my vote for CCIIIROCK::DEVERELLWed May 29 1991 13:4710
    Played New England CC yesterday afternoon for the first time.
    This course is a beauty! Excellent fairways and greens.  Some
    really beautiful holes.  Not long on yardage but very challenging.
    Similar to Skymeadow in some respects.  
    
    Bring your best game to this course!  Poor shots are penalized.
    
    $35.00 for greens fee and cart (weekdays)
    
    /Dave
1195.25??ENGINE::PIELWed May 29 1991 13:558
            Dave,
    
                  can you provide directions on how to get there?
    
    
    
                               thanks,
                                       Ken
1195.26Stay tuned!!!!!MRKTNG::LUCIANORICH LUCIANO @TTBFri May 31 1991 08:1424
    Last year I volunteered to run CUP III.....I could use help!
    
    Here's my plan....
    	 - I want to make a decision on the course and date by next 
    	   Friday (June 7) so that we can start getting players.
    
    	 - If I have to run CUP III, I am going to do it at Skymeadow 	   
    	   (Nashua) on Sept 23.  Reason.....good course....easy for me to    
    	   coordinate from TTB.
    
    	 - HOWEVER....if some of you give me a call (DTN 264-2277), and 
    	   volunteer to coordinate logistics at another course, I will 	   
    	   consider those offers.  When you call, let me know the course, 
    	   the location, and the date you have tentatively reserved with 
    	   the course.
    
    	 - On Thursday, I will send a note out to all those who have called 
    	   me, with the above details; and together, we'll make a decision.
    
    Let's get the organizing behind us and get ready for::::::::::
    
    	      	   CHALLENGE CUP III.............
    
    
1195.27Under ConsiderationMRKTNG::LUCIANORICH LUCIANO @TTBMon Jun 03 1991 10:0514
    Currently under consideration for Digital Cup III:
    
    Course    	   Location  	       Cost 	 Includes
    Skymeadow 	   Nashua, NH	       $55  	 Golf
    	      	   	     	       	    	 Carts
    	      	   	     	       	    	 Light Lunch
    	      	   	     	       	    	 Prizes
    
    Crumpin Fox	   Bernardston, MA     $62  	 Golf
    	      	   	     	       	    	 Carts
    	      	   	     	       	    	 Driving Range 
    	      	   	     	       	    	 Bar-B-Que
    	      	   	     	       	    	 Prizes
    	      	   	     	       	    	 
1195.28LATVMS::RASPUZZIMichael Raspuzzi - LAT/VMS EngineeringThu Jun 27 1991 12:197
I'm psyched...  I'd like to play:

1) Sterling
2) Crumpin Fox
3) Sky Meadow

Mike
1195.29awesomeSONATA::FEENEYnon golfers live half a lifeFri Jun 28 1991 09:281
Shuttuck Inn in Jaffery. It will blow our minds and produce the best we have.
1195.30Masochism at its BestTRACTR::OSBORNEMon Jul 01 1991 11:117
    RE .29
    
    Phil, have you turned into a masochist?  The Shattuck In is absolutely
    brutal.  If your going out for a fun day, that is not the place for it. 
    It certainly would be interesting to see the scores come in though.
    
    Stu
1195.31The 1991 winners....SELL3::BLAISDELLTue Sep 24 1991 00:0727
                     MEN                    MIXED TEAM
            (___________________)       (___________________)       
             \       DEC       /         \      DEC        /
              \ Challenge Cup /           \ Challenge Cup /
               \  Champions  /             \  Champions  /
               /             \             /             \
           +=====================+     +=====================+
           |        1991         |     |        1991         | 
           |                     |     |                     |
           |    Steve Lacaire    |     |    Patty Ethier     |
           |    Andy Russo       |     |    Larry Hebert     |
           |                     |     |                     |
           +---------------------+     +---------------------+
    

     Don't have time to enter much tonight but wanted to mention that
   Steve and Andy shot a 6 under 65 which was a fantastic score today
   in the rain and cold COLD wind at Shattuck.  Several teams tied 
   at 2nd place with 68's.

     One other news flash.  Andy Russo had a HOLE-IN-ONE on the 2nd
   hole, the 147 par 3.

     Congratulations to all the winners and a big thank you to Rich
   Luciano for doing a such a great job running CCIII this year!

-rick
1195.32maybe next year !FRAGLE::STUARTI&#039;m in a sandtrap and cant get outThu Sep 26 1991 12:4910
    
    68 2nd place ?? bummer !! we had 70 with a triple on 16 !  
    
    personal thanks to Rich and anyone who worked on the CCIII !
    
    Any chance of getting all the stats posted ? Skins, Closest
    to pin, etc ...
    
    Randy
    
1195.33didn't want to disrupt the quiet in hereNHASAD::BLAISDELLKeep an even keelThu Sep 26 1991 14:0311
    
       Randy,
    
         I was going to put in the results and the usual stats, but this
       conference and topic has been so dead this week, I felt noone would
       be interested!
    
         As for skins, I don't have that info, and closest to the pin
       winners, all I know is that Andy Russo won one!  ;^)
    
    -rick
1195.34When it rains it poursMR4DEC::TDAVISFri Sep 27 1991 13:432
All I can tell you is that we had an eagle on one of the par 5s and it 
didn't live. Tough competition.
1195.35Eagle on 15JUPITR::PERCUOCOFri Sep 27 1991 14:1012
    We had the other Eagle on 15! My partner, Cliff Spates,
    Knocked in a 98 yd. wedge! It was a beautiful thing!
    
    Rich,
    
     How bout' posting the team scores. There were a few people
    Bragging before the round, I'd like to see how humble they
    are now!!
    
    		Great time, despite the weather!!
    
    					Tom
1195.36Final StandingsCIVIC::BLAISDELLFri Sep 27 1991 23:5267
                 Challenge Cup III  Standings


     Team Name                Players          out  in  tot       Eag.  Birds

1   Philosopher Kings     Lacaire/Russo         33  32   65        1     6
2   NFWays                Neil/Freel            34  34   68        1     4
3   --                    Paradise/Paradise     34  34   68        0     6
4   Deadly Weapons/Term.  Luciano/Bolger        35  33   68        0     4
5   New Breed             Hunt/Taylor           33  35   68        0     3
6   Whipples              Dangredo/Constanzo    35  34   69        0     4
7   Stadler/Watson        Stuart/DesRochers     33  37   70        0     5
8   Lemon-Stirs           Lenehan/Keene         35  35   70        0     4
9   --                    Smith/Lawler          34  38   72        0     5
10  Double Trouble        Deverel/Poulsen       39  33   72        0     4
11  You the Man           Fleming/Berglund      37  35   72        0     3
12  Lefty & Righty        White/Krysa           37  35   72        0     3
13  Bombers               Stopera/Mook          36  36   72        0     2
14  Shrooms               Percuoco/Spates       39  34   73        1     2
15  Tom & Dave            Davis/Doxey           38  35   73        1     0
16  --                    Corrigan/Spencer      39  34   73        0     3
17  Little Leo/Big Bomber Williams/Palatino     36  38   74        0     0
18  --                    Howes/Calvoa          37  38   75        1     3
19  Royalty               Simon/Fisk            37  38   75        0     2
20  Home Boyes            Reid/McKenzie         38  37   75        0     1
21  Gone Fishing          Muth/Steven           38  37   75        0     1
22  Southern Masters      McCarthy/Odabashian   37  38   75        0     0
23  Salt & Pepper         Longchamps/Gomes      38  38   76        0     2
24  Over the Hill         DeStefano/Timperly    38  38   76        0     2
25  Bill & Ted            Raspuzzi/Whitehead    40  36   76        0     0
26  Green Cutters         Ahearn/Clark          38  39   77        0     1
27  The Masters           O'Brien/Ryan          39  38   77        0     1
28  Power Company         Power/Mahoney         38  40   78        0     2
29  Wedge & Sprockett     Wilson/Breen          42  36   78        0     1
30  Woodheads             Chaisson/Wood         39  40   79        0     2
31  --                    Kruper/Heath          39  40   79        0     1
32  Hook & Slice          Sloan/McKay           43  36   79        0     1
33  BB's                  Burke/Blaisdell       41  38   79        0     0
34  Westfield Chargers    Hollister/Risko       39  41   80        0     2
35  Top Guns              Lavner/Anderson       40  40   80        0     1
36  Under Par             Callahan/Mercurio     43  37   80        0     0
37  Things Happen         Bedard/Bilbao         41  41   82        0     0
38  Big E                 Etheridge/Etheridge   40  43   83        0     1
39  Ding Dongs            Feeney/Osborne        43  41   84        0     2
40  Lefty & Fatts         Casavant/Capuano      41  43   84        0     0
41  --                    Ecker/Poirier         39  46   85        0     1
42  Chippers              Goulet/Brindisi       43  42   85        0     0
43  Two Balls Left        Souva/Houlihan        40  46   86        0     1
44  --                  * Ethier/Hebert         44  42   86        0     0
45  Eagles                Feltus/Garrity        44  44   88        0     1
46  --                    Moline/Linnehan       42  46   88        0     0
47  Ram Chargers        * Rameaka/Rameaka       45  44   89        0     1
48  --                  * Ware                  46  43   89        0     0
49  Mulligans             Fay/Doherty           42  48   90        0     0
50  Rum n' Cokers         Niskala/Saball        43  48   91        0     0
51  --                    McGrath/Boiteau       45  46   91        0     0
52  --                    Cook/Godfrey          47  45   92        0     0
53  Mutant Ninja Golfers  Solomon/Kistler       49  46   95        0     0
54  --                  * Murphy                49  52  101        0     0

      Tiebreakers

          Most Eagles
          Most Birdies
          Earliest Birdie starting from #1
          Matching holes starting from #1
    
1195.37Some stats and some whiningCIVIC::BLAISDELLFri Sep 27 1991 23:5952
        The following is how the CCIII contingent did hole by hole at 
    the Shattuck Inn.  

   Hole  #   1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9

       +    34    4   21   10   19   19   32   19   32     +190
    eagles        1
    birds    1   12    5    8    8    8    3    5    2


   Hole  #  10   11   12   13   14   15   16   17   18

       +    34   41   24   18   16   22   40   10   29     +234
    eagles                  1         2
    birds    0    5    6    7    5    6    3    6    2

        The back nine was the tougher nine.  The fierce dogleg #11 was
     the toughest hole and the downhill par 3 2nd hole was the easiest.

   re:  the BB's

     No excuses.  We were awful on the greens.  Took 35 putts and missed
  many short makeable birdie and par-saving putts  (8 ft and less). From
  tee to green we were fine with 0 penalty strokes, and really only had 
  trouble on #6 and #10 where we deserved bogies.  Frustrating day as the 
  week before in a harder rain we were 2 under for the 13 holes we played 
  as a scramble team.  I figured the leaders probably took in the range of 
  23-26 putts for the round and those teams that finished in the low 70s 
  took between 27-30 putts.  35 putts for a two man scramble team on greens
  a beautiful as those, was the height of silliness.   >8^{

      Time to go back to the right-handed stroke for next year....

     Again, congratulations to the Philosopher Kings on their fantastic
  round.  It wasn't even close as they were 3 shots better than their
  nearest competitors.  Deadly Weapons/Terminator  who made a huge mistake
  in judgement by changing the name of their team this year, still make a noble
  defense of the Challenge Cup title by finishing in 4th place.

     Oh, and we played an 18 hole round (with carts) in just under 7 hours!!
  Next year we gotta cap the number of teams/people so we don't have more than
  one group going off holes other than par 5's.
   
                      ARGHHHHHHH!
    
    -rick
    
    ps.   Rich and myself are looking for volunteers to run CCIV Next year.
          No,  .... it's fun .... it really is fun to run these things...
    
                   ;^)