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559.1 | an early guess | TOOK::RASPUZZI | Michael Raspuzzi | Mon Mar 20 1989 20:06 | 7 |
| I guess I should answer my own note. After watching some TPC play
this weekend, I think we may see a new person with a green jacket
this year. Look out for Chip Beck. However, I'm siding with Ben
Crenshaw. He might have it all together by then. Who's next with
a reply?
Mike
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559.2 | Well, then again it could be... | MSEE::KELLEY | Custom clubs/club repair | Tue Mar 21 1989 07:58 | 9 |
|
Well, I will have to place two choises. The first in sticking with
my pick for the Golf Digest sweeps is Crenshaw, but I think Norman
may pull it out...! Look for Couples to be up there, but he doesn't
have the killer instinct...
Just 3� weeks to go...
Gene
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559.3 | My crystal ball says... | DNEAST::STEVENS_JIM | | Tue Mar 21 1989 08:10 | 6 |
| Is my buddy Tom Kite playing ?? If so, look for him to win it. He's
hot !!!
Jim
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559.4 | Seve to wear green coat once again.. | MAMIE::GORDON | | Tue Mar 21 1989 09:23 | 3 |
| I'll go with Ballesteros, after the last two "quiet" for him years
I feel he's about due to start playing like he means it...
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559.5 | A Strange Master's | NUTMEG::LUCIANO | | Tue Mar 21 1989 10:16 | 2 |
| I'll put my money on Curtis Strange. I think he needs a green jacket
in his wardrobe!
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559.6 | He's due for a major | SA1794::WELLSPEAK | Hope my little world will last... | Tue Mar 21 1989 10:28 | 5 |
| I feel that by then, you'll be seeing Greg Norman win his 2nd
or 3rd tournament on the U.S. tour. He will wear the green, should
he play in the masters. Look for Strange to give him stiff
competition.
Beak
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559.7 | Tom Kite | YUCATN::BILLINGSLEA | Untold millions, remain untold... | Tue Mar 21 1989 10:54 | 0 |
559.8 | Curtis on Green | JAWS::DIAZ | CMG/CDG/SAMG | Tue Mar 21 1989 11:03 | 21 |
| As I stated in the TPC note, I pick Curtis, but look out for Seve (my
sentimental favourite) and for Norman.
I would like to see at the beginning of the last round a score board
like TPCs, no long shots and at least 5-6 players within 3-4 strokes
of the leader, something like:
Beck -4
Norman -3
Ballesteros -3
Strange -1
Nicklaus even
Calcavechia even
Kite 1
Crenshaw 1
I think the bear is ready to give it another good try as he did at
TPC. I just hope he doesn't lose his touch in the last round.
Tavo
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559.9 | When's our tee time? | CSDPIE::GRYGLIK | When's our tee time? | Tue Mar 21 1989 11:20 | 13 |
| I like (in this order):
Mark Calcavecchia (after last year, he'll be back with
a vengeance!)
Jack Nicklaus (he said he's having fun again! If he
smells blood after play is through on Saturday afternoon, watch
out!)
Greg Norman (he's beginning to play better)
Mike
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559.10 | | HARLEY::DAVE | it's tee time !!! | Tue Mar 21 1989 11:55 | 4 |
|
The BEAR "IS" BACK!!!
dave
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559.11 | "GOLDEN BEAR is DOMINANT" | OURVAX::GLASS | | Tue Mar 21 1989 11:56 | 13 |
| Hi,
Wouldn't the Golden Bear like to continue his dominance at Augusta?
his overall record is:
****Total Masters entered = 30
Total green Jackets = 6
Second Place Finishes = 4
Top Ten Finishes = 19
****Winner of Masters in each of three(3) decades!!!!!!!!!!!
Top this record sports fans.
Tom
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559.12 | Year of the Kite | BTO::HOGANP | | Tue Mar 21 1989 12:04 | 3 |
|
This is the year of the Kite as in Tom. Norman will finish in the
top five along with Lyle, Calcaveckia(sp) and Strange.
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559.13 | | WORDS::NISKALA | Ahh, baseball season finally arrives | Tue Mar 21 1989 12:14 | 2 |
| Since I have chosen him in the GD Sweeps, I'll stick with him
in here. Greg Norman!!
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559.14 | | AQUA::STIRLING | | Tue Mar 21 1989 12:21 | 3 |
| pencil me in for watson i think the slump ends here.
dan
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559.15 | Calcavecchia will be wearing the green | DINSCO::BURKE | Jeff Burke | Tue Mar 21 1989 13:40 | 11 |
| Mark Calcavecchia is my choice. Mark has a good short game, is very long,
and there is no rough to contend with on those less-than-accurate shots.
I expect him to conquer the par 5s easily. BTW, Calcavecchia has taken
two weeks off and does not intend on speaking to the media while he gets
prepared for Augusta. He will probably visit the golf doctor -- Peter
Kostis.
Norman and Ballesteros will be on Mark's heels, followed by Couples,
Strange and Kite.
Jeff
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559.16 | One more time! | CRBOSS::HURLEY | | Tue Mar 21 1989 14:29 | 2 |
|
Jack.
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559.17 | New Name Heard Here | BOSHOG::VARLEY | | Tue Mar 21 1989 14:30 | 3 |
| I'll pick Joey Sindelar; good guy - animal long.
--Jack
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559.18 | Jack's back (ouch) | BTO::HOGANP | | Tue Mar 21 1989 14:41 | 6 |
|
Nothing would please me more than to see Jack do it again but I
just don't think he can string them together like he used to. I'll
be routing for him all the way. When I hear the expresion Jack's
back it dosn't mean the same as it used to.
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559.19 | GO Europe... | FNYFS::HEWSON | A harbour in the tempest... | Wed Mar 22 1989 07:16 | 15 |
| :-( I feel for the BEAR and would love to see him up there on Sunday-arvo
but it's a faint hope I feel.
:-> SEVE, yeah... his honeymoon is over, so to speak, and it's time
he got going again and showed us what he is capable of.
:-< GREG, all shot out ?.
8-) SANDY, as a fan I think he has more talent in his little finger
than most golfers could even dream of. If he gets the head together
he could be 10 in front at the line (IMO).
$.02,
BRIAN.
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559.20 | | DEMING::AUGUSTINE | We Will Survive | Wed Mar 22 1989 07:49 | 2 |
| I'll say Chip Beck has a chance.
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559.21 | One of these WILL win... | MSEE::KELLEY | Custom clubs/club repair | Wed Mar 22 1989 12:04 | 18 |
|
I think we would all like to see Jack win another jacket.
I am going to expand a little on my projected winner and say
that one og the following ten players "WILL" win the MASTERS...
Ben Crenshaw
Greg Norman
Fred Couples
Sandy Lyle
Tom Kite
Mark Calcavecchia
Lanny Wadkins
Paul Azinger
Seve Ballesteros
Chip Beck
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559.22 | | OBRIEN::KEVIN | Custom Clubs & Repair | Wed Mar 22 1989 12:56 | 14 |
| I can't see Crenshaw or Kite. Augusta is a course for the gambler
as well as taking what it gives you. Crenshaw's iron game is not what
it needs to be and for the "best putter in the game", the wand has done
him little good as of late. Kite is not aggressive enough to win
there. It takes a bold player with patience and talent. That's why
people like Ballesteros win there. I don't think that Couples,
Calcavecchia, Wadkins, Azinger or Beck have the patience to play
Augusta. I don't think Kite and Crenshaw are bold enough. That leaves
me with Norman, Lyle or Ballesteros. Of course I've been wrong before.
Win or lose though I still like to see Jack make 7 birdes on the back
nine on Sunday!
KO
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559.23 | And then again... | MSEE::KELLEY | Custom clubs/club repair | Wed Mar 22 1989 13:36 | 12 |
|
Kevin,
I think we are seeing a new Kite emerging this year. I think
he has a chance. I do agree that Ben is having problem with
his putter and otherwise, but he has a couple weeks to get it
together. Couples has the patience, he just has to keep his
concentration up to have a chance...! And even though I put
Seve on my list, I don't really think he has his game together
yet this year...! I guess Norman is my top pick of the bunch...
Gene
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559.24 | A new Kite is flying high this year.... | WORDS::NISKALA | Ahh, baseball season finally arrives | Wed Mar 22 1989 15:11 | 5 |
| I agree with Gene, Kite is getting aggressive, just note his
"choked down" 4 wood that almost rolled off the ?16th? green into
the drink. He had a 2 stroke lead at the time and probably should
have laid up. Let the others make mistakes, but he went for it,
BOLD move.
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559.25 | Watson's Tournament, too; Not just Jack's | CURIE::TDAVIS | | Wed Mar 22 1989 16:27 | 4 |
| If Tom Watson find's his putting stroke, he'll win by 3 strokes.
Big if.
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559.26 | Export license for the jacket... | SQGUK::NOCK | I'LL have a Babycham | Thu Mar 23 1989 07:00 | 13 |
| Don't right off Faldo - he a had a really consistent year last year
and if he makes a few birdies...
Or one of the "S"s, I mean Sandy or Seve.
Sorry US,
Paul of GB
P.s. I agree with the reply about Sandy's little finger... I remember
watching him at the Belfry - I stood by the side of the fairway
where all the drives were coming to rest. Sandy took out his 1-iron
and the ball came to earth 30yds furhter down the fairway!
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559.27 | DG Odds | DARTS::DIAZ | CMG/CDG/SAMG | Thu Mar 23 1989 10:30 | 31 |
| OK, here is the Golf Digest's chart on the 1989 Masters
Player Odds 1988
1. Seve Ballesteros 8-1 T11
2. Curtis Strange 10-1 T21
3. Mark Calcavecchia 10-1 2
4. Sandy Lyle 12-1 1
5. Greg Norman 12-1 T5
6. Tom Kite 15-1 44
7. Ben Crenshaw 15-1 4
8. Nick Faldo 20-1 T30
9. David Frost 20-1 8
10. Bernhard Langer 25-1 T9
11. Chip Beck 25-1 T21
12. Tom Watson 25-1 T9
13. Nick Price 33-1 T14
14. Craig Stadler 33-1 3
15. Lanny Wadkins 33-1 T11
16. Joey Sindelar 40-1 T39
17. Fred Couples 40-1 T5
18. Mark McCumber 40-1 24
19. Ken Green 40-1 -
20. Jack Nicklaus 50-1 T21
The 1988 column shows the position they finished last year with T for
tie.
As you can see, DG doesn't give the "Bear" that many chances.
Tavo
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559.28 | I'll try these | FILTER::PIEL | | Thu Mar 23 1989 12:29 | 18 |
| My top 3 picks are:
Tom Kite - because he is playing well of late.
Ben Crenshaw - seems to always be a shot or two away.
Seve Ballesteros - a gambler who has done well at Augusta in the
past.
Of course, Jack Nicklaus is always my sentimental favorite. Normally,
I might have gone with Curtis or Greg, but Curtis seems to have
lost something over the last several weeks and Greg always plays
well for 3 rounds then skies to a 74 or 76 for the fourth.
Ken--
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559.29 | | HEFTY::TENEROWICZT | | Thu Mar 23 1989 14:31 | 12 |
| Gee isn't it good that the odds mean absolutely nothing.....
They all start off even....
I'm looking for a new face to win this year. I can't say who
but if I had to develop a criteria I'd say someone who had played
the tournament a few years,placed in the top 15-20 and who has
won a few tournament on the tour. Perhaps someone looking for
their first Major.
Tom
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559.30 | Playoffs | BSS::RIGGEN | Colorado notesfile MEMBER | Thu Mar 23 1989 15:27 | 4 |
| A three way playoff between Seve, Greg and Strange with Seve winning
on the 17th.
Jeff
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559.31 | i'll take 2 | PHENIX::MCSHANE | | Thu Mar 23 1989 15:41 | 3 |
| KEN GREEN if he doesn't think
CURTIS STRANGE if he does think
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559.32 | | GIAMEM::R_TURNER | | Fri Mar 24 1989 08:28 | 1 |
| I pick Sandy Lyle
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559.33 | Nick Price | ESPN::BLAISDELL | Scuse me while I kiss the sky | Fri Mar 24 1989 09:03 | 1 |
|
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559.34 | Seve, i think | DUB01::OGRADY | | Fri Mar 24 1989 09:08 | 15 |
| I think SEVE has a point to prove this year.
I know his form is off so far this year but he feels
at home at Augusta, which i think is of particular
importance. As he said himself , he could have won
5 (!) Masters by now.
martin
P.S. All this speculation on who will win is futile.
In recent ('80s) majors very few have been able to
win more than once [ only Ballesteros, Floyd, Watson
etc ] so the likelihood is of a first time winner.
Look at the winners of the last 5 Masters.
84 Crenshaw, 85 Langer, 86 Nicklaus, 87 Mize
88 Lyle
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559.35 | Jim Hallet | RATTLE::TLAPOINTE | | Fri Mar 24 1989 09:32 | 12 |
| A true long shot.........
Jim Hallet by 2 strokes!!!!!!!!!
A few years back he surprised a number of people when as a amateur
he did so well at the Masters.
Also he's from New England, Cape Cod, so let's root for a local
pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tony
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559.36 | Brad Faxon | BANZAI::PAL | Paul Lemaire | Fri Mar 24 1989 09:45 | 6 |
| re: .35
If you want to root for a local boy, go with Brad Faxon (from
Somerset, Mass). He has been finishing higher than Hallet in most
tournaments this year. I'd have to look it up to be sure but...
if my memory serves...he finished in the top 15 or so in TPC;
I believe he had the same score as Curtis; won about $15K.
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559.37 | Faxon's finish in TPC... | MSEE::KELLEY | Custom clubs/club repair | Fri Mar 24 1989 09:55 | 6 |
|
RE: .36
Just an FYI. Brad Faxon has been playing real well. He shot a 287
at TPC, $19,575. Strange finished at 290, $6.673...
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559.38 | My Pick | ISLNDS::GARY | I'm the NRA | Fri Mar 24 1989 11:59 | 4 |
|
Mainly 'cause nobody else has picked him - Steve Jones.
-Alan-
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559.39 | Fredie baby | NSG018::STOPERA | skill is stronger than strength | Fri Mar 24 1989 12:56 | 3 |
| I have to go with sweet swinging Fred Couples, the man is always there
knocking on the door, he's in the top 10 this year on the money list,
and he's got the BEST swing on tour.
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559.40 | Curtis is ready | NBC::BREEN | | Fri Mar 24 1989 13:28 | 7 |
| If I just choose Frost can I get two picks?
NO! Then I go with Curtis Strange, his tips in GOLF have really
helped me.
And Gene since you left Curtis off your 10 picks I bet you a coffee
that none of your ten win it though it is a great list.
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559.41 | you're on...! | MSEE::KELLEY | Custom clubs/club repair | Fri Mar 24 1989 13:41 | 8 |
|
RE: .40
Sorry, don't know your first name?
You are definately on and Curtis doesn't stand a chance...!
Gene
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559.42 | More Master's Picks | AKOV11::GWILSON | | Fri Mar 24 1989 16:35 | 4 |
|
I'll take 'gentle' Ben Crenshaw for a favorite and Bill Glasson
for a long shot.
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559.43 | | MAMTS1::KVENEZIO | | Mon Mar 27 1989 09:26 | 18 |
| I'm ready to go 2 for 2 on picks. Here's my top 5.
Norman
Kite
Payne Stewart
Seve
Nick Faldo
Norman wins in a playoff over Kite. Kite birdies 17 and 18 to get
in the playoff only to lose on the 3rd playoff hole after hitting
in the water on 12.
Wild prediction of the week; One of the leaders will make "hole in
one" on 16.
Sentimental prediction of the week: Nicklaus takes an early lead.
Long shot prediction of the week: Calcavechia misses the cut.
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559.44 | NORMAN BY A MILE | CGOFS::D_SWITZER | | Mon Mar 27 1989 16:57 | 10 |
| The American media has been on Greg Norman's case about his lack
of tournament wins in the U.S.. Starting with his years Masters
I think he's going to show them that he is one of the best, if not
the best, player's on any pro tour.
My prediction is a walk away win for Greg Norman...
Dennis from "THE GREAT WHITE NORTH"
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559.45 | Pick The Six | CHEFS::NEWPORTP | | Tue Mar 28 1989 06:43 | 28 |
| USA 3 Europe 3
Just so as not to be too biased towards players this side of the
pond, I'll go for three from each side.
Although we don't get much coverage of your tour, I would say that
Chip Beck, Fred Couples and Mark Calcavecchia have the best chance
out of the US golfers.
From the European viewpoint, I have to go for Sandy Lyle, Nick Faldo
and Seve Ballesteros.
Sandy - Has come home from the US... it's not for a holiday. He's
got a habit of coming back from a lean spell. Watch him!!
Nick - If you want someone to hit the fairways ALL the time, Nick's
the one to follow. If the putter's hot he'll be around.
Seve - Believes in himself again after his win at Royal Lytham
and everyone knows he has something special in that golf
bag of his.
Looking forward to a late night on the 9th April.
Phil (Reading, UK).
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559.46 | Unrealistic and realistic bets | BIRKA::LITBY | ...and he built a Crooked House | Tue Mar 28 1989 10:09 | 10 |
|
For wishful thinking, Swedish amateur Christian Hardin (winner of
British Amateur championship and first-ever Swede to play in the Masters). No,
he's not related to Masters chairman Hord Hardin (expect some puns from the
TV commentators about that)
Realistically, Tom Watson. Time for him to come back!
-- Mr Litby
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559.47 | the upset of the golfing year | MAIL::SCHULZ | | Fri Mar 31 1989 15:53 | 1 |
| In a real shocker!!! ...it will be Danny Noonan!!!!
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559.48 | what .... who ! | DUB01::OGRADY | | Mon Apr 03 1989 10:01 | 6 |
| Who the hell is Danny Noonan ?
Is he the Mid-west Amateur champ or the Public course champ ?
He must be Irish with a name like that, so i'll go for him too !!
martin o'grady
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559.49 | Yup, Noonan it is.. | DNEAST::STEVENS_JIM | | Mon Apr 03 1989 12:37 | 8 |
| NOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNAAAAAAANNNNNN !!!!
NANANANANANANANA......
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559.50 | TOP THIS PREDICTION! | SANFAN::GRANT_JO | | Tue Apr 04 1989 17:13 | 6 |
| Not only will Mark McCumber win the Master's, but after he dons
the green jacket he will make rude remarks about the rich old lady
in the first row who kept throwing cheese sandwichs at him. She
will turn out to be the wife of the CEO of a major American corporation
and the CEO will, in revenge, force McCumber to quite golf and take
a job as a car hike in Pretoria, South Africa.
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559.51 | The Masters "BECKons" | AIMHI::CROCKETT | | Thu Apr 06 1989 13:49 | 2 |
| Chip Beck is due to win a major. He has been a great player the
last couple of years. I see him as having a good shot at winning.
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559.52 | Early finishers ? | CRBOSS::HURLEY | | Thu Apr 06 1989 16:09 | 2 |
|
Does anyone have any information on first round leaders at the Masters?
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559.53 | Super Mex | GOMETS::MCCARTHY | Mike McCarthy MRO4-2/C17 297-4531 | Thu Apr 06 1989 17:03 | 3 |
| Last I heard, Lee Trevino was at -5, with Nick Faldo a shot back.
Mike
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559.54 | | ENGINE::WARFIELD | Gone Golfing | Thu Apr 06 1989 18:07 | 8 |
| Re: .-1
>Last I heard, Lee Trevino was at -5, with Nick Faldo a shot back.
So much for Lee Trevino's argument that Augusta just wasn't suited to his
style of play! ;-)
Larry
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559.55 | It isn't | SA1794::WELLSPEAK | Hope my little world will last... | Fri Apr 07 1989 08:58 | 8 |
| Augusta isn't suited for his game at all. It favors a player
who is long, and who draws the ball, as oppossed to Trevino, who
fades or cuts the ball, and comparatively, is not a long player.
He just happened to have a hot putter yesterday. He said he rolled
a 12 footer in for a par on #1, a 25 footer on #2 and a 15 footer
on #3. After that he said the hole looked like a bucket!!!
Beak
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559.56 | Another GREAT MASTERS... | MSEE::KELLEY | Custom clubs/club repair | Fri Apr 07 1989 09:32 | 10 |
|
Another great Masters is shaping up. I don't think may people
expected Trevino to even be close to the top, including himself.
There are a lot of great holes left to be played and I am SURE
we will see the lead change many times and in the end Norman
will be on top. I couldn't believe how slow Norman was playing/
how much time he was taking on each shot (aparently Jack has
been giving him some pointers)...
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Hi,
Had the good fortune of watching Masters highlights on USA cable
last night!
Now I really can see what a fast green means. It is like "putting
in your bathtub and stopping the ball short of the drain.
Weather dictated the first days scores, but I feel that "youth"
will win out even though Jack is always my senimental favorite(as
well as a fellow Buckeye!).
The International field looked great and Seve/Nick are not to be
ruled out. Still, the long and hi shot maker will win it all.
SPRING HAS SPRUNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tom
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559.58 | Forecast | AKOV12::ROBBERTZ | | Fri Apr 07 1989 09:57 | 10 |
| What is the official weather report for the weekend at Augusta.
The report this morning showed rain, thunder, and snow.
With the expected weather change tomorrow what changes can we
expect in the format of the Masters ? Will they play the final
round on Monday or play additional holes on Sunday. I will be
out of the house some this weekend and plan to program the VCR.
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559.59 | Trevino's last stand... | DINSCO::BURKE | Jeff Burke | Fri Apr 07 1989 11:17 | 8 |
| I never thought Trevino would lead the board after the first round. This
guy is 49 years old! If he doesn't win, or place in the top 25, this will
be his last invitation to The Masters.
Go Merry Mex!!
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559.60 | fade to black... | MJOSWS::FAGLEY | beat the resident | Fri Apr 07 1989 11:57 | 6 |
| Trevino only needed 12 putts to play the front 9... he said in an
interview afterward that he can't play another round as well as
the first and is hoping to finish top 24...
...lookout if he has a 70 second round, he knows how to turn out
the lights...
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559.61 | Last year of exemption for Lee... | MSEE::KELLEY | Custom clubs/club repair | Fri Apr 07 1989 12:25 | 4 |
|
Ya, if Lee doesn't finish in the top 24 he doesn't get to come back again
next year. This is his last year of exemption from having won the
1984 PGA...
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559.62 | Nice going Lee | FILTER::PIEL | | Fri Apr 07 1989 14:10 | 14 |
| I was as surprised as others at Lee's score. But I want to mention
that Jack Nicklaus was at +1. I was surprised at his score too.
He recently was having back problems again.
Maybe this year we will see some of the older players fight it out
among themselves. Wouldn't it be something to see Jack and Lee dueling
to the wire in the final round !!
Anybody catch Crenshaw's putt ( forgot which hole)?
Ken
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559.63 | Speaking of putts..... | WORDS::NISKALA | Margo pulled a groin muscle. Whos? | Fri Apr 07 1989 15:27 | 8 |
| See the putt Jumbo Ozaki made at ?16? Commentators were saying
he'll be doing good to walk away with par on this par 3 with the
putt he had. He was on the upper level putting to the lower level,
which continued to slope downward. Tapped his putt, rolled to the
incline, down to the second level and started to pick up speed.
Hit dead in the middle of the hole for bird, if 2 inches either
way, he'd have rolled off the green. Yeah, I guess those greens
are tough.
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559.64 | Congrats to Faldo... | MSEE::KELLEY | Custom clubs/club repair | Mon Apr 10 1989 08:58 | 19 |
|
RE: .40
Well, I owe you a coffee... Stop by when you are in NIO... DAMN,
both Norman and Crenshaw out on a great finish and then to boggey
the 18th...! It was a GREAT tourney, the lead changed so many times
and all the big boys were right around the top, then they would
drop out just to put on another charge...!
I felt bad for Hoch, but he did have a great tourney. Would have
been nice for him to have dropped the putt on the first hole of
the playoff, but... I give Hoch a heck of a lot of credit for not
falling apart under the pressure (like Reid did)
Congrats to Faldo. He is one of the guys that I counted out after
the third round... And he one on a hole that he had nothing but
boggies on during all four rounds of the tourney... I guess some
of the press is making issue over his drop from casual water on
the winning hole...!
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559.65 | The drop made a difference... | DINSCO::BURKE | Jeff Burke | Mon Apr 10 1989 09:30 | 12 |
| Gene,
Scott Hoch got relief the previous hole from casual water, but he didn't
seem to get any advantage (I believe he even moved backwards). It appeared
Faldo really got a better approach by moving towards the right side of the
fairway, taking the water hazard almost out of play. Hoch's approach shot
looked very difficult from the left side of the fairway (looking directly
at the water hazard). I guess the bottom line is that Nick Faldo made the
birdie putt.
Jeff
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559.66 | 2 cents worth | ESPN::BLAISDELL | Scuse me while I kiss the sky | Mon Apr 10 1989 09:35 | 24 |
| > the playoff, but... I give Hoch a heck of a lot of credit for not
> falling apart under the pressure (like Reid did)
And how about Ballesteros? Reid I can understand since it was
the first time he had experienced the final day at the Masters,
but Seve had this thing won and became unglued on the back nine.
No excuse for someone that has been there a few times.
> Congrats to Faldo. He is one of the guys that I counted out after
> the third round... And he one on a hole that he had nothing but
Me too. He's got to rank as the top player in the world after
what he has done in the past year.
> of the press is making issue over his drop from casual water on
> the winning hole...!
Why should they? Hoch got a drop on the 1st sudden death hole
and Crenshaw got a drop on 18. Proves why they shouldn't let
baseball/football/hockey beat writers cover golf! ;^)
Ps. I love the Masters! What a great show.
-rick
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559.67 | You saw it here first | SQGUK::NOCK | I'LL have a Babycham | Mon Apr 10 1989 09:52 | 10 |
| See .26!
>Don't right off Faldo
Now why didn't I believe myself and put some money on it!
And congrats to the whole european contingent (even though it is
still small) - Woosnam, Olazabal and Seve all in the top 24. Not
bad from only 6 starters.
Paul
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559.68 | Great Show | FILTER::PIEL | | Mon Apr 10 1989 09:59 | 9 |
| Yes, congrats to Nick. I was another one who had counted him out.
Still, I couldn't believe it when the braodcast started and Crenshaw
had lost his lead so badly.
It was an exciting tournament with the lead changing so often.
I envy those who were there despite the weather conditions.
Ken
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559.69 | Presentation... | MSEE::KELLEY | Custom clubs/club repair | Mon Apr 10 1989 10:00 | 16 |
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RE: .65 & .66
I don't want to blow the issue of Faldo's drop even more out of
proportion, so I will just say that it was the Globe that I read
the article in...
Ya, Seve also blew up. He is known for having trouble with the
back nine...
I didn't get to see the jacket presentation, the last thing I saw
was when Faldo made the winning putt. Was there anything of note
that happened during the presentation...?
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559.70 | SMALL GREEN JACKET | DARTS::DIAZ | CMG/CDG/SAMG | Mon Apr 10 1989 10:33 | 15 |
| Re:< Note 559.69 by MSEE::KELLEY "Custom clubs/club repair" >
Since they were already one hour behind in the TV schedule, the
ceremony seemed kind of rushed. The only thing that I noticed was
that Nick's green jacket was at least one size smaller, and he also
noticed it.
When I turned on my TV at about 4:15 and they were showing Seve with
a bunch of birdies in front nine, I got really excited. Excitement
that turned to big disappointment, after seen him blow it in the back
nine.
Tavo
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559.71 | '89 Wrap-Up | CLOSUS::DCHAVEZ | Dale - CXN Colo Spgs | Mon Apr 10 1989 10:34 | 26 |
| Thoughts on the '89 Masters...
Well Greg Norman played himself out of another Masters!
Unlike the other's though, he has no one to blame but
himself for his bungled second-shot at eighteen. I was
really pulling for him to win one this time, but somehow,
eighteen got in the way again.
Isn't funny how everyone (including CBS) ignores players
like Scott Hoch...yet he deserved as much on-air time as
anyone. He played a superb round of golf.
Ben Wright? Who needs him. I was going to scream if he told
the Nick Faldo anecdote about him taking up golf late in his
teen years...how many times did we hear it?
Tip of the hat to Lee Trevino for playing two great rounds
at Augusta...he found out too late in his career that he CAN
play at the Masters.
Ben Crenshaw, like Norman should have been putting for a
birdie instead of a par on the eighteenth.
The weather really sucked this year!
Dale
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559.72 | Seve in the tank... great! | MJOFS::FAGLEY | beat the resident | Mon Apr 10 1989 11:11 | 13 |
| I enjoy pulling against Seve. I don't like the way he bangs clubs
into the turf and fusses over every shot. I really enjoyed the
15th (appx) when Norman wanted to putt, looked over at Seve on the
adjacent hole, realized he was taking forever and went ahead and
sank birdie. The crowd went wild, disrupted Seve, and he missed
a bunny! If he would putt instead of screwing around he'd have
played before Norman and probably made his putt! That was the end
of the line for Seve. He really irritated me with his foolishness
regarding relief on the path in the trees. He didn't like the first
ruling and ended up with no relief on the second... good for him,
(mr. crybaby).
Rick
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559.73 | in defense of Seve | CURIE::TDAVIS | | Mon Apr 10 1989 11:27 | 26 |
| < -< Seve in the tank... great! >-
< I enjoy pulling against Seve. I don't like the way he bangs clubs
Sorry you don't like Seve. I think he's a great golfer and a great
competitor.
< of the line for Seve. He really irritated me with his foolishness
< regarding relief on the path in the trees. He didn't like the first
You should know that Seve liked the first ruling just fine. It was Ken
Green who wasn't too pleased with it and asked for the R&A official to
provide the second opinion--much to Seve's chagrin, no doubt. (A good
ruling, though.)
I like players like Seve, Stadler, and Calcaveccio, who are
demonstrative about their emotions. Bobby Jones was a notorious
ranter. Although he learned to temper his temper for the public (and
for his own competitive advantage), when he retired from competition
he wrote that on weekend afternoon rounds with his father he enjoyed
letting a club "fly" from time to time. I'm not advocating club
throwing--in fact it's irritating and distracting when a playing
partner loses control--but I've never seen more than a grimace and a
wack or two at the ground from Seve; mild stuff by many standards.
Shows there's a living, breathing, emoting human being behind those
incredible, apparently automatic swings.
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559.74 | Too good to be unhappy about it all | SQGUK::NOCK | I'LL have a Babycham | Mon Apr 10 1989 12:13 | 10 |
| I'd agree, Seve does sometimes get too upset by external factors.
But he's still #1 and I like to see him win everything.
It was really noticeable in last years Open (oops that's _British_
Open for all of you) that he actually seemed to be happy and smiled
on his way round. The camera clicks, etc didn't get to him and he
pulled off a great final round - his attitude must surely have helped
enormously.
Come on Seve, _smile_ to keep winning
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559.75 | Congrats Nick | OBRIEN::KEVIN | Custom Clubs & Repair | Mon Apr 10 1989 14:10 | 14 |
| I can't say as I feel bad for Hoch. He gased the putt on 17 then 3
jacks the first extra hole. The second (from 2 feet no less) doesn't
even scare the hole! We call that the twitches for sure. I do feel
bad for Norman and Crenshaw. They both made made some BIG PUTTS near
the end to get into it. Then mistakes on 18. That's golf.
It was clearly Nick Faldo's time. If the putt in 17 hadn't dropped
it might still be rolling today. But after the near death experience
on the first extra hole, he was not to be denied. You could see it in
his eyes he was going to win. That second shot was a thing of beauty.
KO
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559.76 | SEVE - hard to beat over the long run!!! | WILKIE::GORDON | | Mon Apr 10 1989 14:18 | 7 |
| I'd take Seve everytime if I was to bet....HIS RECORD SPEAKS LOUDER
THAN HIS idiosyncrasies...
the third best scoring average at the masters....
and one of the best if not THE BEST player in the world...
Imay not like his antics but the man is a winner..so if your inclined
to pull against a winner...so be it..
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559.77 | | SA1794::TENEROWICZT | | Mon Apr 10 1989 14:21 | 18 |
| I can hear it now "Faldo backed into the championship,It's really
not a win at the masters...". Well I can say that Nick wasn't my
choise for winner but he did do one thing no one else did.
HE DID WHAT HE HAD TO DO. HE MADE THE SHOTS HE HAD TO WIN.
WHETHER THIS WAS A BOGGY OR A BIRDIE, he made the shots the
other guys didn't. This is the bottom line to winning. Winning
is simply playing within the rules and beating the other guys. it
doesn't say that you have to do it with style, or win with a birdie
on the last hole.
Congradulations Nick, You did wjat no one else seem to be able to
do yesterday. You won.
Tom
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559.78 | Fantastic ending to a great tournament | SA1794::WELLSPEAK | Hope my little world will last... | Mon Apr 10 1989 14:30 | 20 |
| Just a fantastic way to spend a Sunday afternoon!!! I enjoyed
it. Normans drive from +1 after 8 holes, to an almost incredible
finish. Crenshaws comeback during the last 4 holes. Reids exciting
play until 15. Seve until the same hole. Hochs unexpected finish,
and Faldos consistant round that gave him the win. He was probably
the golfer who was/is the most suited to playing under those
condidtions, and didn't crack under the extreme pressure their is
on the back 9 at Augusta on Sunday. My hats off to all who finished
and gave us all an exciting finish to this years Masters!!!
A few more comments. It was indeed Green, who insisted on the
2nd ruling on Seves ball on the damaged ground. Seve was going
to take the drop after the 1st ruling. And Norman didn't do anything
wrong when he made his putt on 16. Seve has the same view of Norman,
as Greg did of him. He should have looked over at Norman before
actually making his attempt, and he would have seen Normans ball
on the way to the cup. And I wouldn't say that anyone choked at
all. Until you've been in those shoes, and felt that kind of pressure,
I wouldn't criticise them.
Beak
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559.79 | GIVE EM A BREAK | BTO::HOGANP | | Mon Apr 10 1989 15:32 | 15 |
| I would just like to say to all you expert golfers, you know who you
are the ones that never hit a bad shot , never mis a big put and god
forbid never ever choke when the match is on the line. I can't believe
you can actually critisize these guys, Half of you hackers aren't
talented enough to carry thier clubs. If you bannana ball hitting duffers
and so good I guess I should expect to see next year teeing it up
with Seve and the boys.
Most of you noters just enjoyed the golf and appreciated the effort
these guys give under incredable cercumstances. My hat is off to you.
The rest of you stiffs, get your feet back on the ground remember
compaired to these guys you stink.
Pete ( tell it the way it is)
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559.80 | >:^( | ESPN::BLAISDELL | Anything you need...you got it! | Mon Apr 10 1989 15:45 | 9 |
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re: .79 Who are you directing your comments to ?? I went
back to reread all the replies, and nowhere did I see
the word "choke" or inflammatory criticism of a player
to warrant the kind of berating you were dishing out.
And so what if someone did? Everyone has a right to
an opinion. Sheesh, lighten up will you!
-rick
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559.81 | DID I SAY THAT!!!!!!! | BTO::HOGANP | | Mon Apr 10 1989 17:05 | 6 |
| Rather than go back an isolate the notes that angered me I will
apologize. I was way out of line. My Dad always said it takes a big man
to admit when he's wrong so from now on you can call me "BIG GUY"
although I feel about 2 inches tall. Oh well live and learn.
Pete (open a little wider and stick your other foot in your mouth)
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559.82 | "THE BUCKEYES ARE FOR REAL" | OURVAX::GLASS | | Mon Apr 10 1989 17:12 | 10 |
| Hi,
I truely enjoyed the Masters again and wish the weather had have
been better.
There is one(1) man who qualified for another Masters with his +3
showing and all of his native Ohians are proud that he has gone
there 31 times, won 6 and holds the 271 record.
By the way, anyone that qualified and finished the last two(2) days
is to be held in the highest regard by us golfers. Also, how many
of todays leaders will still be "hungry" at 50 like Jack or Lee?
Tom
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559.83 | Not to worry | ESPN::BLAISDELL | Anything you need...you got it! | Mon Apr 10 1989 17:37 | 5 |
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Pete, No sweat. It's obvious you wanted either Seve, Reid
or Hoch to win.
-rick_who_couldn't_even_shine_the_pros_shoes
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559.84 | Easy... | MJOFS::FAGLEY | beat the resident | Mon Apr 10 1989 18:02 | 14 |
| Pete,
Yea, your right, I couldn't carry their clubs, but that has nothing
to do with expressing opinion. I hope everyone enjoyed the Master's
as much as I did. I think everyone pulls for a golfer who's style
they like, and consequently against those they don't like. Seve
isn't my favorite, but I realize his excellence on the course is
hard to match. I really hoped Crenshaw or Norman would win and
was just pleasantly suprised to see competition as tough as Seve
falter.
Rick_hoping_you_chill_a_little
P.S. No offense taken if none intended!
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559.85 | brrrrrr | BTO::HOGANP | | Tue Apr 11 1989 09:22 | 4 |
| Rick, Point well taken just had an off day.
Pete ( is it cold in here or is it just me )
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559.86 | Better than Sex :-) | MAMTS1::KVENEZIO | | Tue Apr 11 1989 19:15 | 28 |
| What a week! It all started on Thursday's USA Network showing. 2+
hours, than Friday we got a bonus 1/2 hour, Saturday CBS takes it
till dark, and Sunday 'till 7:45. That's about 11-12 hours of the
finest golf all year.
What an ending. For you other Masters junkies, it was a typical
finish. The old saying "It's only a matter of time before the cream
rises to the top" is so much a part of the Masters. You look at
the leader board on Friday, Sat, and Sunday first the front than
the back nine and it continually brings the big names to the top.
A special question for the Brit's or Scot's across the pond--
During the Green Jacket ceremony, Faldo had what appeared to be
a mini Union Jack on his knee. Symbolic of the victory for his
countrymen back home. Did anyone else notice it? It was there and
then it was gone next time they panned back from Hord Hardin. Also
can someone tell me if there is a big fued between the Brits
and the Scots? I'm just one of those Yanks who spent too many days
on the golf course instead of going to history class.
I found it so much a part of history for Lyle (The Scot in the kilt)
handing off the Green Jacket to Faldo (the Brit with the flag).
Anyway, I was glued for every minute of televised coverage. Even
had the wife and my 7 year old and her friends glued to the tube
as silent as the crowd themselves with me. The exciting thing is
that next years tourney will be just as "Masterful"
Ken who_is_still_thinking_about_it_and_will_for_another_week_or_two
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559.87 | Info from GB | SQGUK::NOCK | I'LL have a Babycham | Wed Apr 12 1989 09:47 | 17 |
| Yes I saw the Union Jack. I thought it was one of those caps that
he'd put on his knee, I didn't really notice that it disappeared.
No _particular_ feud between England and Scotland _as such_. Scots
are however generally pretty nationalistic about things and have
many of there own laws. Without wishing to offend any Scots or go
into further detail in this conf, suffice to say that their isn't
any feud which would spill over into golf...
WRT green jackets... On the GB coverage, while you in the US had
commercials, our interviewers had Sandy on wearing his jacket. He
had some attachments to the cuffs of each sleeve (I don't know
what they call them but I've seen them on old military uniforms)
to go with his kilt. When he did the presentation these had been
removed - had someone objected?
Paul
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559.88 | my 2� | AZTECH::BILLINGSLEA | Mark \ DTN:522-5317 | Wed Apr 12 1989 11:25 | 24 |
| re: The MASTERS
Wow! What a course, what a tournament. Wow!
re: Seve
I don't think Seve is that "demonstrative" with his temper. At
last years International, I saw Paul Azinger *bury* his putter
into the 18th green after missing a very short putt. His caddy
spent quite some time fixing it up. Compared to that Seve is a
powder-puff (temper-wise).
re: Faldo
Good show!
re: Hoch
Oh well.
re: Sandy Lyle
I thought the kilt was really sharp (considering golf history,
etc.)
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559.89 | England Rejoice!! | CHEFS::NEWPORTP | | Wed Apr 12 1989 13:46 | 26 |
| Re .86
Ken, I don't think there is really any animosity between Nick
and Sandy. The press blow it up all out of proportion as they do
most things. The two guys want to win against one another obviously
and that's no bad thing. Let's just say there is a friendly rivalry
between them. I think they respect each other for what they are
at the end of the day - great golfers!!
One point that was amusing was on the British coverage Ian Woosnam
was passing comments on the situation/result. He was as delighted
for Nick as anyone and quipped 'I wonder if they have a jacket my
size for next year'. Sounds like he wants to make it a hattrick
of European wins.
Generally what a fabulous tournament as usual and well worth staying
up until 1.15am!! Mind you the whiskey bottle was a great companion
throughout the duration!! I think Nick's iron to the 11th must have
been one of the best I've seen with the pressure, the weather and
the non-existent daylight. Would I love to be able to do that!!
Nick - I love ya baby, you deserved it after last year's
disappointments.
Phil (whose is going to wrap the video tape in cotton wool)
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559.90 | #@%& | SQGUK::NOCK | I'LL have a Babycham | Wed Apr 12 1989 14:04 | 8 |
| What I'd like to know is just what did Faldo say to himself when
the putt went in. Watch his lips again on the video! It looked to
me like a 4-letter word, something like "goodness me I do believe
I have just won".
In GB, Ian Woosnam had a laugh about it so I think he caught it too.
Paul (lucky they don't have a big mike pointing at him)
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559.91 | Bucks?'s | DNEAST::FREEMAN_KEVI | The Squeeky Wheel = Neglect | Wed Apr 12 1989 17:12 | 4 |
| Did a SEARCH for $ and couldn't find a purse. What did the top
finisher get and what was the total purse?
Kevin,
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559.92 | $1.3M AND $200K | DARTS::DIAZ | CMG/CDG/SAMG | Wed Apr 12 1989 17:29 | 5 |
| Re:< Note 559.91 by DNEAST::FREEMAN_KEVI "The Squeeky Wheel = Neglect" >
If I remember correctly it was $1.3M purse and $200K for the winner.
Tavo
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559.93 | Gene - Thought you had Faldo | CBS::BREEN | | Wed Apr 12 1989 18:38 | 20 |
| Gene,
Looking forward to that coffee. Actually, I hadn't realized
that you had omitted Faldo from your list. The point I was making
was that besides the obvious greats of golf there are about 50 like
Hoch that can win at any time. Given his great chip on 17 I think
he had the nerve to win. Tremendous entertainment for the ?5th
year in a row.
Speaking of the globe (re the drop article by Madden*) was it
there that I saw a poll of pga players which rated Scott Hoch most
unpopular (Crenshaw most popular) just recently.
I got the feeling by the way that Lyle was definitely rooting
for Faldo. I was rooting for any American just like I always root
for the American league in World Series (another note I know).
* Madden is the globe writer who tried to compare scores of 1963
Open and 88 at Brookline to prove "definitively" that modern players
are better than their forbears. So take him with the grain of salt
Bill
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559.94 | almost. ken green | PHENIX::MCSHANE | | Thu Apr 13 1989 16:06 | 6 |
| what about the guy i picked KEN GREEN, he was right there all
weekend, i guess the wheels kinda fell off on aman corner, still
a good showing for a guy who calls the masters 5th on his list
of turnaments he rilly "wants"
3 putt bob
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559.95 | Scott Hoch - hero or villain? | CBS::BREEN | | Mon May 01 1989 14:36 | 17 |
| Scott Hoch whom was early referred to (see note 559.93) as most
unpopular PGA golfer (and my memory is back I am sure now it was
Joe Concannon of the Boston Globe) was whacked again by the Globe
Sunday (4/30) in a reference to Scott's verbally assaulting a writer
trying to interview Tom Watson (at last years Open).
Now I see Scott put on another superb performance and then donate
100 Gs to charity from his winnings. His behavior that I can see
is loose and friendly and outgoing.
Somebody help me. For what??? is Scott Hoch considered "unpopular"
(not with Bob Wrenn obviously)??
And / or What was the incident at the Open when Hoch "berated" a
writer who was interviewing Tom Watson.
bill
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