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Conference 7.286::golf

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Created:Tue Feb 15 1994
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358.0. "Different Shafts for Different strokes" by SPKALI::THOMAS () Tue Aug 09 1988 15:44

    
    
    I have written in previous notes about a slicing problem with 
    my driver. I play staff woods and Ram tourgrind irons. To recap
    my problem I have a controlable slice with the driver. When I 
    use the 4 wood off of the tie I hit a straight stop of a slight
    5yrd. draw. I think the problem with the driver is leaving the face
    of the club open on contact. So, this past sunday I left the driver
    home and took out the 3 wood. With the 3 wood the drives were straight
    and of equal or longer distance of the driver. My question is that
    all of my clubs have stiff shafts. Would reshafting of the driver
    to a softer shaft tend to help bring the face of the club into
    alignment or would it make it worse?
    
    
    					Tom
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358.1VINO::RASPUZZIMichael RaspuzziTue Aug 09 1988 17:0311
    If you are slicing and you believe it is related to shaft stiffness,
    then a whippier shaft will make your slice worse because the club
    face will be lagging so much behind your hands. A stiffer shaft
    may cut down on your slice.
    
    Don't take that as a hard and fast rule. If you have fast hands,
    then you want a stiffer shaft. If you have relatively slow hands,
    then this may not be true. If you get a chance to play with a stiff
    shafted driver, see if your slice goes away.
    
    Mike
358.2Try the old wooden block exerciseDIXIE1::WESTCLGator GolferWed Aug 10 1988 09:5611
    Try this.  Take a wooden board, about one to two feet long.  Place
    it parallel to your intended line of play and outside of the ball
    by a couple of inches.  Using a long iron, take a few cuts at the
    ball.  You will quickly find out just where the club is going. 
    If you can swing without hitting the board, then you are on the
    right track, and your problem is with face alignment.  You may find
    that you are swinging from outside to inside, and, in that case,
    you can be hitting with a square, or even slightly closed, clubface
    and still slice the ball.  Good luck.
    
    Closs                        
358.3latest Golf Digest...CSMADM::NEILPeter C.Wed Aug 10 1988 10:0713

	re .0

	FWIW, there's a great article in the newest Golf Digest about
	shaft stiffness and torque resistance and how these factors
	affect different level players. Even though the main thrust
	of the article dealt with the effects of Graphite/Boron/etc
	type shafts it could still be very useful.

	Good luck,

	 Peter.
358.4STAY STIFF...MOVE THE BALL!!!MJOSWS::FAGLEYleavin' early...golf to playWed Aug 10 1988 12:4512
      In my case, I was able to correct a slicing drive by moving the
    ball forward in my stance and using a stiff shaft driver.  I was
    using a regular shaft driver and struggling, now with the stiff
    shaft I am hitting the ball much more straight.  If you already
    have a stiff shaft driver try moving the ball forward and playing
    it off your left heel (assuming you are right handed).  Until I
    got comfortable with the new ball placement, I concentrated on a
    spot about 3 inches behind the ball rather than on the ball.  Since
    your fairway woods seem O.K. this may be worth a try.
    
    Rick
 
358.5Maybe a lesson will helpFILM::PIELWed Aug 10 1988 13:5623
                      <I have the same problem>
    
      For what its worth, I also have the same problem with my driver.
    However, with a 3 wood, I usually fade or hook it. According to
    the pro that I take lessons from, the slicing with the driver is
    due to one of 3 problems:
     - playing the ball too far foreward in my stance.
     - an outside to in swing path.
     - hands starting the downswing rather than the hips.
    
     Now, these problems are unique to me, but you might consider them
    when your having problems. I suggest that you have a professional
    watch your swing with say the driver and another club that you hit
    well. He/she should able able to find the cause quickly. My lessons
    have certainly helped me, but I have still have a long way to go.
    
    
    
                  Good luck,
    
    
                             Ken--
    
358.6how about grip and equipment?NBC::BREENThu Aug 18 1988 18:2820
    I have the same problem.   I play left-handed and I notice this
    with many lefties.  The lower the wood the larger the slice.  The
    5 wood nets out the same as the driver.
    
    Putting the ball forward and putting more weight on right leg and
    avoiding inside outing the swing reduces slice to draw.
    
    However, I truly believe that the crux of the problem is grip and
    equipment.  I will problably try out a metal driver with a grip
    that is comfortable.
    
    I do not have this problem with low irons.  Also, I use "grip" to
    mean the club grip.  I just cannot change from an interlocking grip
    to a "Bob Mann" type overlap.  
    
    My message is to try changing the driver; hopefully at a friendly
    pro shop where I can try several.  Also the grip and the grip need
    to be considered.  ? dumb!!  Could my club have a right handed grip?
    
    See you at Tory Pines
358.7correction fade not drawNBC::BREENThu Aug 18 1988 18:302
    re my last.  I meant reduces slice to fade (or just reduces slice.
     I cannot for the life of me get any draw into my driver.