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108.1 | Fasssttt Greens - Pitching | ADVAX::KALLUNKI | | Mon May 04 1987 18:00 | 19 |
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Hi,
Yesterday I was playing Berlin CC and when I reached the first
green, very quickly realized it was going to be a long day... The
greens were faasssstttt. Till this time due to alll the rain/snow
of late, the greens were slow. I was hoping to get some needed advice
on pitching. The pins were up front leaving no room to pitch and
roll, along with the fact the fairway grass was high. Earlier I
was told to use the pitching wedge on ALL approach shots, because
the way the sand wedge will sometimes bounce and top the shot...
and the 60 degree wedge will dig deep and leave it short. I'd like
to get it on and close under these conditions... What is your
technique?
Thank you,
Walt
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108.2 | Cement mixer, putt-ee putt-ee | AUTHOR::F_MCGOWAN | | Tue May 05 1987 13:01 | 31 |
| Played both days this weekend! Had a good front 9 Saturday at Pine
Meadows in Lexington (for me - 10 over with one quadruple bogey,
and didn't make a putt longer than 4'). Played Unicorn Sunday for
the first time (on William St in Stoneham). Experimented with an
old blade putter to see if I could start sinking some of those makeable
putts - the experiment failed, so it's back to the Bullseye again.
The course itself is a little 9-holer that plays pretty tough. The
longest hole is a 499-yard par 5, but there are a couple of 440-yard
plus par 4's, and the par 3's are well trapped in front, so it takes
an honest shot to get on in 1.
I liked the course, despite a lousy score, fairly scabrous greens
(one temporary green was in use), and the starter's putting out
several 5-somes ahead of us! As you can imagine, that slowed things
down considerably. I'll certainly give it another try. The high
point of the round for me was a crushed 5-wood on the par 5, which
I reached in regulation (and then proceeded to 4-putt). After
struggling with fairway woods the past two seasons (and almost deciding
to leave them out of the bag altogether), I think I have a glimmer
of a solution: I now think of them as just funny-looking long irons,
rather than as woods. For some reason, that seems to be making the
difference between a horrible flub and a beautiful shot.
So for the moment at least the only club really giving me fits is
the putter. I was so ticked off that I putted the last hole with
the driver - knocked it stiff, a foot from the pin! Best putt of
the day...
Frank
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108.3 | Ball return machine | ADVAX::KALLUNKI | | Tue May 05 1987 15:37 | 17 |
|
Hi Frank,
That's pretty funny, I have been employing the same exact trick
regarding the woods. I too just treat them like irons concentrating
only on the face, the only difference being I play the ball more
on my left foot (I'm a righty).
When you have putting problems the only sure way of fixing them
is to putt, then try putting, then putt some more. I use a ball
return device my sister got for me, it's very good for teaching
distance and accuracy. I found the short putts to drop much more
probably just from the confidence I got from all that practice.
If you have a rug and a wall socket you're on your way...
When is the rain going to stop ????????????
wet in Maynard Walt
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108.4 | I used to play | VOYEUR::LEVESQUE | | Tue May 05 1987 17:54 | 20 |
|
Hey that trick sounds familiar, I've been trying to preach that
to people for years. I've always used my 3w off the fairway and
treat just like a one iron or two. I'll admit I prefer the one iron
for accurancy but its fun once and a while to go for a par five
in two. I play golf once a week right now,(I have a new son) so
each time out is a new adventure. I can get around the links in
about a two or three over par performance stiil though, it's not
a pretty round but I like to scramble. I use to have a MGA handicap
of 2. But after getting married and chained to the yard, I've had
to give up my golf time. Its still fun to get out and hack around
though. I do have one of thought putter shooters also. you know
putt the ball in and it fires it back at ya. I love watching the cat
stick her paw in there to see what going on. ZAP!!! out come the
paw and there goes kitty and her come mom BYE!!!
ps: I play Saturdays at 06:00 to avoid those slowwww crowds
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108.5 | woods vs 1,2 irons | ADVAX::KALLUNKI | | Wed May 06 1987 14:50 | 11 |
| When it comes to using woods vs irons... which club do you give
up to get the 1 or 2 iron in your bag? I see the pro's pulling
out a 2 iron on occasion and got to wondering what selection
most of them use? I hit the 3 iron 210 yds. and have often thought
of picking up a 2 iron and retiring the 5 wood. The only thing
stopping me is I'd be sacrificing the long/high shot which I use
to get back in the correct fairway.
Curiosity never killed the cat... but their paws definitely take
a beatin' !
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108.6 | The Cat's Meow? | AUTHOR::F_MCGOWAN | | Wed May 06 1987 18:19 | 18 |
| Hi, Walt:
Yeah, with all this rain, about all I've been able to practise has
been my putting. I'm concentrating on smoothness and not peeking
(my tendency is to look up and scuff the putt, leaving it way short
of the hole). For a while I tried lining up the putt and then just
watching the hole (or the spot I was trying to hit). It worked for
a while, but not for long!
I have one of those electric putting devices, and I have stopped
plugging it in, because often it spits the ball back out and leaves
it in the line. So I just putt till it's full and then go retrieve
the balls myself! My cat hasn't stuck his paws into it yet, but
he goes crazy chasing the ones I miss (or intercepting them on the
way).
Frank
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108.7 | | SPKALI::THOMAS | | Wed May 06 1987 19:25 | 9 |
| RE # .5
I just bought a new set of irons and because I hit my old two
iron well I went the whole route. I now carry 1-9,pitching and sand
wedges, putter, driver and four wood. That's 14 clubs and that's
the limit. If I had a choise between a five wood and a four wood
I would go with the five wood.
Tom
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108.8 | | ADVAX::KALLUNKI | | Wed May 06 1987 20:20 | 18 |
| Thanks for the info Tom,
I think it may well be worth a stroke or two swapping out at least
one of my woods for a long iron. The times I hit a green from way
out with a fairway wood I can count with two fingers...
Hi Frank,
One thing I have learned about putting, when you're on ENJOY IT!
What frustration ! I wonder if anyone putts consistently ? I read
another note where someone said they can two putt any hole... If
that person is reading this, it would be great to hear what steps
you take in setting up to get such results. Pleeaaaasssssseeeeee????
leave it thin, never goes in
Walt
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108.9 | 69!!!!!!! | ODIXIE::WESTCL | Gator Golfer | Sun May 10 1987 05:42 | 5 |
| Can't help but brag. Today I shot a 69 on my home course from the
championship tees. Hit 14 greens and had 30 putts. Had 3 birdies,
one bogey, and one penalty shot (but made par anyway). It was my
first sub 70 round in about 6 years. My arm is sore from patting
myself on the back!!!!
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108.10 | That ain't braggin' | AUTHOR::F_MCGOWAN | | Mon May 11 1987 13:24 | 13 |
| In the words of an old Texas buddy of mine: It ain't braggin' if
y'all kin do it. Congratulations! Just curious: how long have you
been playing, and how often do you play? There was an item in the
new issue of GOLF magazine, indicating that the average male golfer
shoots 23 over par for 18, and that 38% NEVER practice! I'm still
struggling to break 90 consistently (did it once last year and the
first time about 20 years ago) and have the feeling that my swing's
there, and my irons are getting better, my chipping's getting close
and all I need is more confidence on the greens and I'll be in the
low 80's. But 69!? Nice going.
Frank
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108.11 | Let's give him a big hand... | STKHLM::LITBY | You're away! | Mon May 11 1987 15:06 | 8 |
|
Re .9,.10
My hat's off too. I'm impressed - why aren't you working as a golf
pro somewhere instead of at DEC? My goals are more down-to-earth,
I'm trying to go below 90...
-- Mr Litby
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108.12 | And it's only May | LOCH::KEVIN | Kevin O'Brien | Mon May 11 1987 20:54 | 15 |
| I guess that this is a good spot for this story. A couple of weeks
ago I was playing a friendly match. We started on the back which
my partner and I won 3 up. The front was a different matter. After
the 4th hole we were 1 over (both bogyed #1) and were 1 down. The
5th hole is a par 5. I was hole high in 2 about 50 feet from the
pin. Clearly we will even the side on this hole. I hit an aweful
chip shot about 8 feet left of the pin. Our opponent chips in a
no brainer for birdie. I made the putt to tie, my partner birdied
6, they birdied 7 and my partner birdied 9. It was quite a match
to have 5 birdies in 5 holes. We played the side in 2 under par
and the 18 in 1 or 2 over. Not bad for a couple of hackers from
Vermont!
KO
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108.13 | Y O W ! | ADVAX::KALLUNKI | | Mon May 11 1987 21:26 | 21 |
| Re .9
69 ?? You must have been/are sky high after such excellence!
Sounds like target practice hittin' 14 holes in regulation... One
question... when it's going well I tend to start thinking "How
long till I screw this up?" Does it ever cross your mind? Or are
you actually looking forward to the remaining holes to do even better?
I feel if I could only maintain my optimism things would go much
smoother... I have been shooting an occasional 4 over for 9, and
can't seem to keep it going enough for a scratch 9 holes. But a
sub par 18 ? Do you give lessons?
Congradulations ! Love to hear it !
Walt
re .12
Seems like you guys were playing for a Mich Light ! (like a
case, that is) . Good battle.
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108.14 | | AUTHOR::F_MCGOWAN | | Mon May 11 1987 22:02 | 14 |
| re. 13
Hey, Walt, that's what happens to me: I start off well (as with
Saturday - booming tee shot, 8-iron on the green, then started
thinking, "Boy, I sure hope I don't mess up the putt," and left
myself a good 8' short, for a bogey) and can't or won't keep it
going. Too much history. It's like you can't believe you're really
capable of doing well. One encouraging thing: where I used to fear
using fairway woods, I now look forward to them. Just a matter of
changing your self-image from "I'm a hopeless hacker" to "I can
really play this silly game, after all."
Frank
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108.15 | Do the Right Thing | ADVAX::CLOSE | | Tue May 12 1987 23:12 | 43 |
| Re: .14 Yep, attitude is the whole thing once you have the
fundamentals down. I took up the game last year after a 13 or 14
year layoff. Awful, terrible, but I love playing. I quickly worked
my way down from about 115 to the high 90s. Once I dipped down to
93, and on one miracle day had an 89, but basically I was a 97-98
golfer. I didn't have a temper, but I would get down on myself and
decide early on that a round was "lost." Of course, then it was.
But late last season -- I played through December in Mass. -- I
seemed to calm down. I had been in most situations and knew what
to do. Sometimes I'd screw up, but at least I knew the right way
to handle a situation. I ended the season with a few 91s, and an
87.
This year I started where I left off!!! I don't know why, but I
feel more relaxed on the course. I can finally hit a 9 or a wedge
to the green without chilly-dipping. I can hit a 3 wook off the
fairway. I can even get out of sand!! All my rounds have been 92s
or 93s. I'm reasonably happy, but I'm blowing 4 or 5 strokes a round
missing -- get this -- 2 footers! I can put a 35 footer within 2
feet, no problem. Then I blow the tap in. Well, I'm working on
it.
Anyway, the main difference I think is that I know what to do, so
I can concentrate on doing it right. When I have a disaster, like
a quad due to lost ball and trees, I regroup and keep playing. I've
been studying my cards and I notice an interesting trend. Each time
I have a triple or a quad, I follow it with a couple of pars, or
a par and a bogey. At my level bogey is OK. Last year a quad meant
total collapse. You know, you can blow a lot of strokes and still
shoot a 91 0r 92.
This year I can't play much (three week old son), but when I play
I'm better and I really enjoy myself. I hum that song by Simply
Red: "The Right Thing." Great golf anthem, the chorus is "I'm going
to do the right thing." Every time I'm tempted to attempt a bonehead
shot, I hum that line and play it smart. Well, 95% of the time.
Sometimes, you just can't resist! ;-)
DC-who-will-finally-start-dropping-those-2-footers-and become-an-
85-golfer-this-year
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108.16 | Drive for show, and why not? | AUTHOR::F_MCGOWAN | | Tue May 12 1987 23:32 | 26 |
| re. 15 - That's the DEC motto, eh? "Do the right thing." I really
believe we set up a lot of artificial mental barriers (jeez, I'm
sounding like Norman Vincent Peale here), when we think of these
"magic" numbers. I had a hell of a time breaking 100 (must have
taken a good 5 years), but once I did, I never shot over 99 again.
I'm sure once I break 90 (on a "real" course), I'll be consistently
in the 80's, because I'll think of myself as someone who shoots
in the 80's! The fundamentals are there - even the putting, which
is even more mental than the rest of the game! If I can just stop
thinking of myself as a "lousy putter," I'm sure the putts will
start dropping.
As for the "right" shot vs. the "high risk" shot: hell, anyone can
chip it onto the fairway, but where's the thrill in that? Yeah,
you're right - that's REALLY dumb! Some of my best 4-irons have
been hit from amongst the heavy timber, only to carom off a limb
and wind up even deeper in the forest! But if you don't live for
the thrill of creaming a super drive off the first tee, in full
view of about a million other hackers ("Wow, did you see that?"
Are there any sweeter words ever spoken, at least on a golf course?),
you probably ought to take up tiddley-winks (not you, personally,
but someone who always plays it safe).
Frank-who's-on-the-verge-of-shooting-82-any-day-now-McGowan
start dropping. Maybe self-hypnosis ... nah, no gimmicks!
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108.17 | Thanks for the Congrats | ODIXIE::WESTCL | Gator Golfer | Wed May 13 1987 06:00 | 27 |
| re. .10
Thanks for the kind words Frank. I have been playing since college
days at the Univ. of Fla. (1960). Down here in Dixieland we play
all year, although I sometimes think it would be advantageous to
put up the clubs for a few months each year. I play once or twice
a week when the weather permits.
re. .11
Thanks to you too, Mr. Litby, for your tip 'o the hat. Believe
me, I play more golf than most club pro's I know, and don't work
near the hours! My hats off to you for setting up this conference
and monitoring it for us nuts!
re. .13
Walt, believe me, my arm is still sore from patting myself on the
back. I, too, am very subject to the screw up when I've got it
going. I had blown numerous chances at the sub 70 round over the
past year. I find that my best play comes when I can concentrate
totally on executing the shot at hand. I try to determine the exact
yardage and establish that mental image of the shot prior to pulling
the trigger. By the way, I had only to par the 18th for the 69.
I pulled the shot to the left and thought it was in the lake!!
Fortunately I found the ball on the far side of the lake and was
able to play it. Talk about a grown man almost crying!!!
Thanks again,
Closs
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108.18 | One of these day's | ADVAX::KALLUNKI | | Thu May 14 1987 20:32 | 18 |
| My friends and I play a local course Berlin CC, par 33 with no par
5's. One of my friends Tony shot a 37 last year leading the pack
for lowest 9 holes. This week alone Tony and I have gone to Berlin CC
4 times, three of which I shot a 38 . Last night I birdied the 5th
par'd the 6,7,8 th and if I par'd the 9th would've tied his 37.
But by the time we were teeing off the 9th it was 8:15 , we should
have easily finished the round at 7:30. The Berlin CC let 8 somes
go off because the league teeing off was too large. What frustration!
I could barely make out the green as I took the shot, hitting it too
hard and bogeying the hole... Tony if you are reading this you
better not be laughing !!!
Thanks to Closs's advice on taking it one shot at a time, and
visualizing (sp) the pre-shot, my game has become steadier. Watch
out Tony ...
Walt
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108.19 | | NESSIE::KEVIN | Kevin O'Brien | Fri May 15 1987 23:58 | 8 |
| Closs,
Shooting 69 really is an accomplishment. But the fact that
you got it up and down from the other side of the water on 18 shows
that you're a player too. If you ever need a partner!!!!!!
KO
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108.20 | Dec League - Stow Acres | ADVAX::KALLUNKI | | Tue May 19 1987 18:03 | 15 |
|
Hi Everyone,
I have been playing as an alternate in the DEC league. We play
at Stow Acres, tee times of 4:15 and 5:15. I have been lucky up
till last night in teeing off with the 4:15 crowd, due to the fact
they have been ending at 5:30 ish. By the time the last foursome
tee's off for the 5:15 group it's close to 7pm ! Many players to
date have only played 4 holes for the $10 greens fee... Seems Stow
dropped one monday league and picked up two, along with that and
previous weather cancellations it is total bedlam. My question is,
Will this continue? Stow says it's only "temper"ary.
Drivin' while blind
Walt
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108.21 | 1/O! | BEES::SCHLIESMANN | Barry Schliesmann | Mon Jun 01 1987 18:06 | 12 |
| Had my first hole-in-one this weekend!!
It was at Saddle Hill CC in Hopkinton, MA. - 6th hole,
161 yd par 3. The green is elevated, and the pin was tucked
tightly behind a trap on the right. I hit a 7 iron, and watched
the ball disappear behind the trap. When we got up to the green,
I thought the ball went over, so we began to walk to the other side
of the green to look for the ball. We passed the pin and looked down.
There it was! I had been playing really poorly up until that hole too.
I was six over after 5 holes. I guess the hole-in-one got me so excited
that I began to play well again. I shot an 81, my best round of the year.
I can feel the seventies not too far away!
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108.22 | I'm IMPRESSED!!!!! | NEDVAX::SNIDER | Larry K. Snider | Thu Jun 04 1987 15:18 | 3 |
| RE. -1
Congrats..........still lookin' for mine.
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108.23 | Awesome!!! | HEFTY::WELLSPEAK | Lord Beak | Mon Jun 08 1987 16:32 | 4 |
| Great shot Barry!!! My Conrats too. Hope you find the 70's
real soon.
Beak
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108.24 | I Must Be Dreaming | AUTHOR::F_MCGOWAN | | Tue Jun 16 1987 13:58 | 16 |
| Gotta do a little braggin'... thanks to a new set of irons (MacGregor
CG1800's) and [incredibly] keeping my head still till AFTER hitting
the ball, I managed to do something last Saturday I've been trying
to do since 1962: broke 40 for 9! In fact, shattered 40... 2-over
37 (7 pars, 2 bogeys).
I have my wife to thank (Slammin' Susie). She's been improving so
fast, I had to get better just to maintain the stroke-a-hole handi-
cap. She managed to break 50 the very next day!! I don't want to
admit how long it took me to do THAT!
It won't be long till she's only going to get strokes on the par
5's!
Frank
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108.25 | Glad to hear it | NESSIE::KEVIN | Kevin O'Brien | Tue Jun 16 1987 20:31 | 7 |
| RE .24
Frank,
I'm glad to see that your game has improved. You and SS must be
really enjoying the game now. It's fun to play but it's more fun
to play well. Congrats!!
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108.26 | Teacher's Pet | 25813::F_MCGOWAN | | Wed Jun 17 1987 17:43 | 11 |
| Thanks, Kevin. It sure is a lot more fun. I attribute my better
play to helping Sue - the more I tried to teach her (and she's one
hell of a fine student), the more I reinforced my own understanding
of the game. Her swing is now the prototype of what a good swing
is supposed to look like: anytime I lose that image, I just hand
her a club and ask her to take a swing with it. Great reminder!
Once her chipping and putting come together, watch out. But isn't
that what we all say??
Frank (Swing it, don't steer it) McGowan
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108.27 | Personal Best | LILAP::REHOR | | Wed Jun 17 1987 17:52 | 28 |
|
I've been golfing for 25 years and I finally broke 80. It happened
this last Sunday on a difficult course that I was playing for the
first time. The course was called Hidden Greens and the name was
very appropriate. Most holes were not visible from the tees (except
for par 3's) and the fairways were very narrow with thousands of
trees all over. The only saving grace was that there were no bunkers
on the course.
Generally I play fairly open courses where I can swing away. I
believe the tightness of this course caused me to swing more for
placement than distance. I had only about 4 drives that went into
the woods all day. On each one I was able to punch out to be in
position to save bogey. Also, it didn't hurt that I chipped one in on
17 for a birdie 2.
I've felt all along this year that my game is improving, although
my handicap isn't moving far. I attribute this to keeping statistics.
Following an article in Golf Digest this spring, I put a spreadsheet
on my pc to track holes, score, putts, fairways hit, greens in
regulation, missed shots, penalties, pars, and birdies. My score
average is 90, I hit only 30% of the fairways, and 25% of the greens,
putting is atrocious at 34 per round, pars at 5 and birdies at .8.
I believe the key is not so much in the statistics, but in the fact
that on each shot I'm trying my best to improve the statistics by
trying to hit the fairway, green, etc.
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108.28 | show me that good swing again | MEMFRE::KEVIN | Kevin O'Brien | Wed Jun 17 1987 20:09 | 29 |
|
RE: .26
You know Frank I think you're right. Helping someone else with
their swing tends to improve your swing. I was helping a couple
of people this spring and I found myself saying, stand up to it
square, grip it like this (show grip), start it back with the shoulder
hit with your legs etc....... True to form I started to make real
good contact with the ball myself. Funny how reviewing the
fundamentals makes you hit the ball better! One other thing that
stuck in my mind was, one of the guys I was helping asked me to
show him what I meant by staying behind the ball. I thought, 'oh
boy did I ask for it this time, I've got to make a good swing!'
I tried to make the best pass that I could, and it was a good one.
Well not long ago I was having all kinds of trouble with my iron
game. I couldn't hit a bull in the a** with a shovel let alone
a golf ball. I thought about that situation on the range, and just
tried to make a good swing. It worked, the game is starting to
come back. Now I just try to think about putting a good move on
the ball because 'I've got ot make a good swing.'
I must be one of the few golfers that doesn't say wait until the
chipping and putting comes around. I miss so damn many greens that
up and down is the strongest part of my game. I believe that I
could get it up and down from the ball washer if I had to. ^8)
Wait'll my irons come back!!!!!
KO
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108.29 | An overnight success after 25 years! | AUTHOR::F_MCGOWAN | | Thu Jun 18 1987 17:50 | 18 |
| Rep. 27
Way to go! That's my next goal (80 or under for a continuous 18).
I combined for a 77 last weekend, but it was 37 one day and 40 the
next (on different 9-hole courses), so that doesn't really count.
What's all the more impressive about your score is that you did
it while concentrating on location: the usual tendency (mine, at
least) is to start "steering" the ball, rather than just making
sure of alignment and then swinging normally. Not to mention the
almost irresistible urge to peek! Congratulations. All that work
of 25 years finally paid off! I'll be playing a pretty tight little
9-holer this Saturday, which will be a good test of my ability to
swing normally under trying conditions. If you don't hear from me
about it, you'll know I didn't have a lot of success...
Frank
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108.30 | You Call THAT Rough?? | DICKNS::F_MCGOWAN | | Mon Jun 22 1987 22:22 | 23 |
| Well, I did my bragging last week; not a lot of that this week!
That tricky little 9-holer (Petersham CC) really did me in (along
with a bad night's sleep). After the 6th, I just stopped counting,
it was so bad. Needless to say, my best shot (one of the few good
ones of the day) came on the final hole: stuck a 9-iron about 6
feet from the pin, and got my par.
I wanted desperately to get out again Sunday (kind of like being
thrown from a horse: you have to climb right back on before you
lose your nerve). Unfortunately, everybody and his brother decided
to play golf on Father's Day. After putting a ball in the rack and
waiting three (3) hours, my buddy and I decided it wasn't such a
great idea. Even if we'd managed to tee off before dark (we got
to the course at 7 a.m.), it would have been slow torture once we
got started. Wait'll next week!
Frank
P.S. Oh, yeah, after playing this misery-plagued 9-holer in Peters-
ham, I had very little sympathy for the pro's on the US Open course.
You call that "rough"? Hah! The Petersham fairways looked worse
than that!!
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108.31 | Make the stats work for you | HEFTY::WELLSPEAK | It's a Boy | Mon Jun 29 1987 17:13 | 35 |
| RE .27
I think you've misunderstood the reasons behind keeping
those stats. I too, read the article, and have kept stats on my
rounds. And while concentrating on each shot, trying to better
your stats for that particular catagory, helps and doesn't hurt
at all, the real reason for keeping these stats, is to help you
determine which part of your game needs the most work. If you find
yourself hitting 50% of the fairways and only 25% of the greens,
it's your iron play that probably needs the most work. If you're
not hiiting a good percentage of fairways, then this could cause
your Greens hit percentage to suffer, because of hitting out of
rough or woods often.
You mentioned you took an average of 34 putts a round, and stated
that was terrible. On the contrary. You're averaging 1.88 putts
per hole, and for an amateur, especially one who shoots over 80
for each round, that's not to shabby at all!!! After looking at
your stats, I would say you should spend some time on hitting more
accurate tee shots and/or hitting more accurate approach shots.
Hitting more greens will also encourage you to practice your putting
more, as you will have more birdie opportunities, and will want
to make some.
By the way here are my stats so far. Greens hit, 36%
Fairways hit, 55%
Avg. putts per/round, 34.48
What I get out of this is, I need to practice my iron play more.
I make good contact and hit the ball well, but because of the distance
I've been getting, these are new clubs and I'm hitting my 8 iron
155 to 165 yards, and my 5 iron about 190 to 195 yards, I've been
missing a lot of greens either long or short. I also have to learn
to putt better. I seem to be able to lag putt pretty well, but
am not making enough of those 6 to 12 footers.
I hope this helps you.
Beak
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108.32 | Isn't "shank" a 4-letter word? | DICKNS::F_MCGOWAN | | Mon Jul 06 1987 19:52 | 23 |
| My last two times out have been more trying than usual, owing to
an affliction known as "shanking." First it was just the pitching
wedge, so I decided to leave that safely in the bag; then it was
the 9-iron, so I switched to a choked-down, half-punched 8-iron.
Yesterday even THAT wouldn't do right!
I understand how shanks happen, and I even know (or think I do)
how they're happening to me (the more I try to make a smooth swing
and not look up, the more I make a lousy swing and look up!). I
have now lost all confidence in the short irons, and fear that at
the rate things are going, it'll be another week or so and ALL my
irons will be victims of shankitis.
Sure, all I have to do is relax and all my troubles will be over...
Anyone got any advice? Some kind of mantra I can mumble just before
starting the backswing ("don't look up" sure doesn't work)? I think
maybe the best medicine is taking a week or two off, not looking
at a golf club, and then giving it a try (but can I stand two weeks
of cold turkey? Probably "yes" if the alternative is a string of
shank-induced double and triple bogeys!
Frank
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108.33 | If all else fails... | ADVAX::KALLUNKI | | Mon Jul 06 1987 20:38 | 11 |
| Hi Frank,
I know what works with me when I "peak". Seems whenever I do
peak it is due to aiming the ball. Once I go back to hitting for
correct distance rather than direction I avoid picking my head up
and concentrate more on contact. Proper set-up will then give me
direction. If that doesn't work, tie a rope around your neck and
attach it to a weight... increase the weight until you reach the
desired result. I was up to 115 lbs. ...
Walt
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108.34 | You mean the snap fade | PLESIO::KEVIN | Kevin O'Brien | Tue Jul 07 1987 20:04 | 15 |
|
Frank,
Whenever a problem creeps into your swing, the first thing to
do is to review the fundamentals alingment, stance and grip. If
that doesn't work, go see a pro. I've seen people have that problem
so bad that there was no hope for the entire season. I've been
lucky it's never happened to me (insert small prayer here) but from
what I've seen, it's got to be devistating.
BTW we NEVER use "THAT WORD"..... It's called a snap fade or a
pitch out, but never "THAT WORD" :-}
KO
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108.35 | Duck Slice, Maybe? | DICKNS::F_MCGOWAN | | Tue Jul 07 1987 22:00 | 20 |
| rep 34
Yeah, I like that: "snap fade"...the second I'd s****ed, I turned
to my playing companion and said "Don't say it!" To which he replied
(innocently), "You mean 'shank'?"
With some trepidation, I took the sticks out into the back yard
last night, dropped a few whiffle balls, and did all the things
you're supposed to do: thanks be, I didn't snap-fade any of them.
It's just another example of how fear of bad results can cause a
bad result! Now all I have to do is make it happen on the course.
A friend (a relative tyro at golf) made the mistake of commenting
that the wedge was the most difficult club to hit, to which I re-
torted that it only seemed that way because it was the club you
used under the most stressful circumstances (except the putter,
of course, but few of us take a full swing with our putter).
Frank
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108.36 | Up and down at the same time | DICKNS::F_MCGOWAN | | Fri Jul 10 1987 21:05 | 16 |
| One of the elements of golf that make it such a mystery, and endlessly
fascinating and frustrating, is the apparent random nature of the
things that can go wrong: the round before last, my tee shots were
out there, long and straight, and I couldn't hit the wedge to save
my life (much less par); yesterday, after work, I got in a fast
(hah!) 9 at Leo J Martin, and could hardly keep my tee shots in
the 617 area code, but hit the wedge like I was born to it...
One other weird and wonderful occurrence: on the 13th (played the
back 9), I found myself with an uphill/downhill lie! The ball was
above my feet, on the side of a hill, but on the downward slope.
Naturally, after careful analysis of the situation (including con-
sidering declaring it unplayable, and taking a stroke), I pushed
a 4-iron into the trees! I gave myself credit for just making solid
contact...
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108.37 | Such Sweet Sorrow | DICKNS::F_MCGOWAN | | Mon Jul 20 1987 16:04 | 22 |
| How can a round be frustrating and satisfying at the same time?
Well, that's golf, I guess. SS (Slammin' Susie) and I played at
Millwood in Framingham Sunday. The Slammer had a fine day (she
started playing this year), hitting her tee shots long and straight,
and scoring a pretty legitimate (1 mulligan) 50 for the front 9.
I, her mentor, had a frustrating 48 (also with 1 mulligan), which
included 5 3-putt greens (all for bogeys), and one horrendous 8!
On completing the 14 holes (yes, 14), I had parred 4 of the final
6, but had committed atrocities on the other 2. The most satisfying
moment was canning a 40-foot putt for par (especially satisfying
after so many 3-putts). Oh, yeah, I missed a birdy on the 9th when
the putt rimmed the cup and rolled out...
Obviously, it's time to adjust the handicap! We negotiated, and
finally agreed she'd get a stroke only on holes longer than 350
yards (and I don't think she needs one on those, either...she's
a real quick learner). So, how was your weekend round? Has anyone
played either Candelwood or Cape Ann in Essex? We drove by them
Saturday, and I'm just curious.
Frank
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108.38 | Personal Best II | NANUCK::REHOR | I'd rather be golfing | Wed Aug 19 1987 20:10 | 18 |
|
After reporting my personal best (a 79) in this note a few months
ago, I can now top that one. In our club tournament this past weekend,
I shot a 77 for the first round. It was the first time I broke
80 on my home course. I followed it up with an 85 the next day
to win my flight by a comfortable margin.
I was in the 4th flight (15, 16, handicaps). The 162 was good enough
to win that flight, plus the 3rd and the 2nd flights. In addition, it
was just one stroke out of the 36 hole qualifying for the championship
flight.
Needless to say, I've received more that one accusation about being
a "sandbagger". All I can do is smile, ....all the way to the bank....
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108.39 | BREAKTHROUGHS | ADVAX::CLOSE | | Mon Aug 24 1987 21:19 | 89 |
| I think I've made a breakthrough and cemented it into something
I can count on (I hope). My last five rounds are 90-89-89-91-89.
The 91 included a 2 stroke penalty for a ball lost in the long rough
just off the fairway. In my mind at least, it's another 89.
For me this is big progress. I started playing golf last season
after a 15 year layoff. (As a kid I never played regulation courses
anyway, just par 3s). I started at about 115. I broke 100 in May,
'86, and spent the rest of the season diddling around in the mid
90s. My best last year was 93.
But this year I picked up where I left off. Shot lots of 93s and
94s to start, then gradually brought it down. Now I expect to break
90 every time. So far, for 3 weeks anyway, I have. Next stop, sub-85!
Why has this happened?
Well, for one thing I got my wedge play together. I'm not afraid
of it anymore ... in fact, I love that club. I'd rather hit a pitching
wedge from 40 yrds than face a 40 foot putt.
Then there's keeping the tee shots in play. That's just a matter
of slowing down, forgetting about distance, and serving it out there.
Sand play is now OK. Fairway irons are reliable. I lost my ability
to hit a fairway wood for a while, but now it's coming back. I find
that if I choke down on a club that's giving me trouble, swing slow,
and think only of making good contact, the club comes back pretty
well.
But, above all, it's in my head. Playing a fair number of rounds,
facing every kind of trouble, and making every bonehead mistake
has taught me lessons that I can rely on to score well (by my
standards) even if I'm not playing that well. I remember:
1. Never to give up. I expect 4-6 doubles in a round. I don't like
them, but I make damn sure I follow a double with a par.
2. Loosen my grip, particularly in tense situations. I can now avoid
my typical OB right shot on that lousy 14th at Sandy Burr by relaxing
my grip...fear of the OB markers used to make me take a death grip,
slice, and fulfill my worst fear.
3. Aim at the target. I used to get fancy and try to correct my
slice by aiming left. Of course, that only increased the slice,
and if I happened to hit straight I was then way left. I aim at
the target and trust in my swing. Most of the time it works.
4. Putting. Used to hate it. Now I love it. I concentrate on a straight
slow takeaway, and follow through on the target line. Easy advice,
right? I didn't do it for 2 years and was a lousy putter. Now I'm
typically using 31-34 putts per round.
5. Good attitude. Even Hogan said he expects to make three or four
bad hits per round. It used to make me furious. Now, for some reason,
the storm passes quickly and I bear down to save bogey, double,
triple, or whatever. I used to get discouraged and slap it around,
usually resulting in some horrendous score. I still get mad, but
now I stop myself quickly and remember to save what I can out of
a bad situation.
6. No mullies, no gimmes. I play with some hardnosed guys. We no
longer give mullies or putts. 6-incher? Putt it in. This is great
for the concentration.
That's what I've been doing to help myself. Now I know I need to
work on hitting par 5s in 2 sometimes, and in 3 all the time. I
still hit only 5 or 6 greens in reg. in 18 holes. I tend to lay
up safely, but now I'm going to use more club on the second shot
and see what happens. I also realize that I still have about 3
completely bonehead shots per round. The usual reason is getting
fancy and forgetting the most basic thing: hit the ball.
Still, I'm happy with how it's going. My three 89s were consecutive
rounds on the same course, but very different experiences. The first
time was a hot round that I almost blew on the last two holes (finished
double triple!). The second was a good back saving a bad front (47-42).
Yesterday was the opposite (42-47). In each of those rounds something
key was missing. Couldn't drive, or chip, or hit a fairway wood.
But I was able to fight back by going with what was working. For
me, that's a change. Last year I would have given up early and left
pissed.
Anyway, I hope to keep this on track. Last year my goal to to break
100. This year it's to break 85. It's amazing how many bad shots
you can hit and still score reasonably well. I try to remember that,
and maybe next week I'll shoot that 84.
Dave C
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108.40 | Re-incarnation of Game | STKHLM::LITBY | Where EAGLES dare... | Wed Aug 26 1987 10:11 | 30 |
|
Thanks Dave for your encouraging words. At the beginning of this
season, I developed a terrible slice problem, not only on drives,
but with every club in the bag except perhaps the putter. All this
made my scores go from the high 80s/low 90s to the 100s. And it
kept going worse.
I decided my swing needed intensive care, so I went to the pro, who
immediately discovered that my swing plane had deteriorated to a
point where the swing was incredibly outside-in. He gave me some
tips on how to rebuild the swing, and then suggested I try the
``baseball'' grip.
OK, I started to rebuild the swing using the new swing plane. Of
course, the slice went away, but I also lost the ability to make
contact with the ball in the process. I've now had two months of
gruelling practice, and terrible golf. But finally the new swing
is starting to work, after I forgot about trying to hit it into the
next county, and instead concentrated on making solid contact.
The day before yesterday it finally seemed to fall into place,
during a short 2-day golf vacation. I shot an 89, and that on a
very narrow course in the woods. I hit all my drives in the
fairway except two, which were HOOKS.
This breakthrough came at the critical moment. I was on the verge
of giving up, but now I can enjoy the game again - just about time
for the Swedish Digital Championship on September 3...
-- Mr Litby
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108.41 | Ups 'n downs | DICKNS::F_MCGOWAN | | Wed Aug 26 1987 20:32 | 22 |
| RE. 39 - Talk about "words to live by"! I plan to print that one
out and paste it inside my golf cap. My last few rounds have been
real rollerecoasters: par one then triple the next. Total inconsis-
tency. Played a course in Arundel, Maine last week (Dutch Elm, as
in the disease), started with a par, and should have gone home right
then. On one hole (short par 5) had the following sequence: Pulled
first tee shot deep into woods on left; sliced next tee shot deep
into woods on right; pushed fairway wood deep into right rough.
Three swings, three lost (brand-new) balls! On the next hole, a 202-
yard par 3, knocked 5-wood tee shot onto the green, then 3-putted!!
Desperate, went to Stow driving range at lunch today, to see what
I could discover about my alarming tendency to slice. Tried every
home remedy known to man (stronger grip, choke up on club, close
club face, etc) to no avail: then made a fundamental discovery -
I was bringing it back outside! Concentrated on the inside-out groove
and immediately got a major improvement. Jeez, what a frustrating
game! Well, I certainly can't give it up until I see whether the
new swing groove makes a difference on the course...
Frank
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108.42 | Recovery shot | STKHLM::LITBY | Where EAGLES dare... | Sun Aug 30 1987 12:35 | 36 |
|
---- Note by Walter (ADVAX::) KALLUNKI mis-clubbed... ---
Hi,
Boy ! What a season... the weather has been so nice in Mass.
this summer it has allowed for an abundance of great golf days.
I really enjoy hearing all the good news on personal best's.
It's such an exciting feeling when your game comes together
and produces a good round, or even one great shot.
I played Juniper Hill 2 weekends ago, we were the first group
out... 6AM . After being 5 over after the first 3 holes...
with a triple bogie on the 3rd. I ended up shooting a 3 over
74. I never broke the 80's before, and it was my first time
shooting par or better for 9 holes, with a 2 under 34 on the
back 9.
After which I quickly returned to playing my DEC handicap
of 7 over for 9.
One thing that happened I thought was funny... After shooting
the 74, I came home and watched the tube. A golf tournament
was on and they were announcing the scores after the first
18... Jack was 4 over that day ! Ok Ok Ok I know... if
he was playing the same course as me he'd have been 12 under.
Then again... just maybe ! hee hee ...
Keep the Golf News coming
Walt
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108.43 | Confidence Game | DICKNS::F_MCGOWAN | | Mon Aug 31 1987 17:46 | 16 |
| After last week's Disaster At Dutch Elm, I needed a shot of confidence
restorer, so yesterday I went out to my favorite (and only) 14-hole
course, Millwood in Framingham, where the longest hole is 460 yards
(par 5) and the fairways (mostly) are oceanic in width. Ah, what
a treat! Not having fairways that look like bowling alleys did wonders
for my mental condition, and I'm happy to say, for my score: I wound
up with a 44 for the front 9, and that included two horror-show triple
bogeys (on neither of which did I hit the ball all that badly, just
in the wrong places). The lower anxiety level made it easier for
me to avoid peeking, since I wasn't so concerned about having the
ball disappear into the forest primeval on just about every shot
except putts. A couple more sessions at Millwood and I may be ready
for a grown-up course again!
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108.44 | The Long & Short Of It | DICKNS::F_MCGOWAN | | Thu Sep 03 1987 20:03 | 13 |
| Had one of those strangely satisfying "bad" rounds the other day:
scored lousy, but walked off feeling okay because I'd done so many
things well that I'd been doing badly the past few times out (like
hitting tee shots and fairway irons). I don't know why I take so
much comfort in the phrase "if I'd only made a few putts." Maybe
because I'd been putting well when everything else was going
poorly. In fact, I'd been saving bogey and double bogey by knocking
in 6 to 10 footers because my long game had gone to pot. Now I seem
to have that back, and the short game is AWOL! Wonderful pastime,
golf...
Frank
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