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103.1 | You asked for it | CHAMP::KEVIN | Kevin O'Brien | Tue Apr 21 1987 03:56 | 12 |
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Well Larry you asked for an opinion so here's mine. I've been known
to go out on the course and 3 putt 12 greens without a thought.
(Maybe that's the problem) Then I'll go out and have 27 or 28 putts
in a round. In my opinion it's not the putter or the puttee but
the player. There really isn't much need to change putters reguarly.
My ping is about 12 years old. I polish it up every spring with a
'magic cloth' and it looks like new. It also works just like last
year!
KO
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103.2 | timing is key to replacement | BCSE::SPT_BRINKLEY | | Tue Apr 21 1987 04:11 | 5 |
| I think it was Tom Watson who said the time to replace your putter
is when your putting good, not when your putting poorly.
Roger
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103.3 | good advice | USSCSL::MICHAELS | | Tue Apr 21 1987 05:41 | 17 |
| re .2 and .3
Gentlemen ,
Thanks for the reminder that it's the stroke not the putter
that makes the difference... Your correct advice saved me about
$40.00 to $60.00 which is what I would expect to spend. A friend
here in the office has told me a quote from Ben Hogan regarding
the subject of putting
"Selecting a stroke is like selecting a wife.... To each his own"
Personally... I think I'll stick to selecting a stroke !!!
Larry
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103.4 | It's not oversized putters, it's oversized putts! | AUTHOR::F_MCGOWAN | | Wed Apr 22 1987 20:07 | 11 |
| re. 2 "Change putters when you're putting well, not when you're
putting poorly." Looks like I'll *never* have to change my putter!
Lousy as I am on the greens, I've taken to the radical approach
of looking at the cup as I stroke, rather than at the ball. This
has two advantages: 1. I no longer "peak" (since I'm already looking
at the hole anyway), and 2. I seem to be getting a smoother stroke,
and am missing them by a lot less. In fact, I saved a couple of
pars last weekend, one of them from about 20'. It's quite a thrill
to see the ball suddenly come into view, rolling true to the hole!
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103.5 | Snead-style putting | MDVAX1::TATUM | | Mon Apr 27 1987 22:13 | 12 |
| My putting is so awful that I've started putting like Sam Snead.
Seems to be working well so far. All of the control is in the right
hand and it feels like rolling the ball underhand...a very natural
motion. Hardest part seems to be alignment rather than distance.
I have a Slotline putter that I got before changing styles. Anyone
know if there is a special `Snead' style putter available? Any
other `Snead-like' putters out there?
While on the subject, anyone have a systematic way to improve/learn
the short game (50 yards and in)? I have Tom Watson's book but
am not as enthusiastic about it as some people are.
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103.6 | Great tip... | STKHLM::LITBY | You're away! | Tue Apr 28 1987 08:58 | 14 |
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Re .4 -
Last season I felt that my putting was beginning to spite me - I
decided that I would have to try something new for this season.
This weekend at the putting green (the course isn't open yet) I
tried looking at the cup instead of the ball. It felt a little
strange initially, not looking at the ball, but after a while it
worked great! I think I will try this on the course next weekend to
see if it helps my score.
Thanks for the tip!
-- POL
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103.7 | Throw it to the pin | LOCH::KEVIN | Kevin O'Brien | Tue Apr 28 1987 18:23 | 23 |
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RE.5
> While on the subject, anyone have a systematic way to improve/learn
> the short game (50 yards and in)? I have Tom Watson's book but
> am not as enthusiastic about it as some people are.
I haven't read Watson's book so I don't know what it says, but I
have a technique that works for me. This only works for the bump
and run, if there's a trap to go over you'll need a different shot.
Anyway, the problem with this kind of a shot is 'feel'. "How hard
should I hit this sucker". What I do is to imagine that I'm throwing
the ball to the pin underhanded. I actually go through the motion.
This gives me the feel, I can imagine the ball landing on the green
and rolling to the pin. Now I know how far back to take the club
to make a normal swing (i.e. not quitting on the shot). It's not
perfect, but I'm closer to hole than when I started and I usually
make about � the putts. The rest of the time it's 2 putts and on
to the next tee with my bogey. Give it a try it just might save
a few shots.
KO
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103.8 | | CADLAC::DIAMOND | | Tue Apr 28 1987 20:13 | 22 |
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I'm not the greatest putter in the world but I consider myself pretty
good. I average about 1.5 putts per green all the time. Anything
under 8' and I will make it about 90% of the time. What helped me
is an organization called Putt-Putt golf. This is a miniture golf
course designed on using putting skills rather that luck or going
through windmills. They having Protours, which one can make a good
second income from. I am currently a member of the PPA (Professional
Putters Assiciation). This is sponsored by Putt-Putt of America.
When I was active in Putt-Putt I would play about 10 rounds a day.
Thats 180 holes. With this much practice you just have to improve.
I believe that putting is 90% feel, and 10% reading the green. Its
only with a lot of practice can you get that feel. Reading the greens
takes time also, but not as long. There are 2 Putt-Putts in the
Boston are. One in Brockton and another in Framingham. I only recomend
Putt-Putts. They are the only ones that are based on skills and
not luck that I know of.
Moving to NH from Syracuse NY I miss Putt-Putt. The ones in Mass are
a little too far to travel to.
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103.9 | A little Help | SPKALI::THOMAS | | Tue Apr 28 1987 20:38 | 30 |
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I'm no expect at the short game as it's the worst part of my
game but one thing that I have adapted from a Le Trevino putting
tip and used in my chipping(this year) is to look at the ball at
what you think is the impact point between ball and club. I used
to have a problem topping or hitting behind the ball when I chipped
the ball. Now concentrating at the impact point has eliminated
this problem. I still have a problem judging the force that is
required but I figure that with time and with picking the ball
consistantly the feel for the force will come.
A putting exersive that my uncle taught me years ago is to
take five balls and start putting to the hole from a distance of
2 feet. For each sunk putt you get two points. For each ball that
comes to rest one blade length away from the hole you get one point.
Seven points out of five putts and you increase the distance 1/2
foot at a time. Don't cheat!!!!!!!! Your only cheating yourself.
A second exersize is in warm up prior to going out. Take only one
ball to the practice green. Putt this ball for distance only. Don't
be worried if you don't sink any putts. Chances are that you will
spend much less time studying a putt on the practice green then
you will on the course. Also a good putt stops after the cup not
before it. It should stop within one foot of the cup. You can't
sink'm unless they get there. One final exersize is to pick out
the best putting player you know and challange him/she to a putting
game. One of you starts by choosing a hole and putting to it. First
one in wins that hole and chooses which hole to putt to next.
A dime or quarter a hole makes it interesting!
Tom
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103.10 | I don't believe it! | STKHLM::LITBY | You're away! | Wed Apr 29 1987 09:26 | 10 |
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Re .8
``Putt-Putt of America''? You have to be joking - I thought I had
heard everything, but this...
What I need right now is the ``Chip-Chip'' organisation...
-- POL
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103.11 | My solution | CALLME::MR_TOPAZ | It must be springtime | Wed Apr 29 1987 15:28 | 12 |
| Last year, I got confused when some people would advise me to look at
the hole when putting, and other people advised me to look at the
ball. So I invented an apparatus that I attach to the visor of my
golf cap while putting: it's a series of mirrors that is directly in
front of me, at eye level. With the mirrors, I can look at the ball,
the cup, and a point directly behind me (used for triangulation of the
line of the putt), all while looking straight ahead. With this
system, not only can I look at all the things I've been advised to
look at, but I also don't have to worry about lifting my head up,
since it's already there.
--Mr Topaz
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103.12 | It's all done with mirrors | DEC100::LITBY | You're away! | Wed Apr 29 1987 16:34 | 6 |
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Aha, Mr Topaz is back! Your contraption sounds interesting, however
I see a potential problem: What happens when the sun is in your
eyes? (Yeah, I know, you get a nice suntan...)
-- Mr Litby
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103.13 | | LOCH::KEVIN | Kevin O'Brien | Wed Apr 29 1987 19:43 | 7 |
| RE: .11
Now Mr Topaz... If you could add one more mirror so I could watch
the joggers at the same time.... I might but one from you!!
KO
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103.14 | hacker at heart | CSS2::GORDON | | Fri May 01 1987 00:03 | 14 |
| re:.9
; a good put stops after the cup not before it. ????
;
A good put drops in the cup.....
I think it was Bobby Jones that said something like the following:
" of course we will never know if the put which was on line but
ends up short would have holed out..but we do know that the ball
that runs passed did not hole out.....therefore play your puts
to die at the cup...!!!"
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103.15 | RESPONSE ZT | PYONS::RIGGEN | | Tue May 26 1987 20:35 | 11 |
| As a proud owner of the oversize putter I have to say that the feel
with the putter is better than my old Bullseye putter. In response
to the question if you should invest the money for a new putter
it's up to you and you're game. My problem has always been a feel
for distance and with the new putter I seem to be sinking more 8'-10'
putts than ever before as well as leaving the 20' within inches
rather than feet. I haven't played more than 4 rounds with this
new putter but so far I have one putted 14 holes. I have also noticed
that my accuracy has improved with the larger club head because
you can see how you are contacting the ball.
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