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Conference napalm::musclecars

Title:Musclecars
Notice:Noter Registration - Note 5
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Mon Mar 11 1991
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:182
Total number of notes:5467

174.0. "Carter AFB dog problems.." by BSS::BUSSARD (In Too Deep to Touch the Bottom) Wed Jun 19 1996 13:46

    
    BSS::Bussard
    CXO01-2-129
    522-2144
    
    
    I installed a Carter AFB carb,  as I had one before and pretty well
    liked it.  It sits on a 283 in a '64 Impala SS I rebuilt last winter.
    Anyone have experience with thes carbs?  This one appears to _load
    up_,  loses it's idle,  and basically acts like a pig and then floods.
    I just got back from lunch and it's doing it again.  It could very well 
    be dirt in the bowl,  'cause it's done it several times on only 3000
    miles (since rebuild) and the last time there was all kinds of crap in
    the bowl,  which I suctioned out.  But cripes,  this happens way too
    often?
    
    Also,  the fuel filter is one of those pretty chrome/glass tube styles,
    and I'll bet they don't filter half-as-good as a paper filter.
    
    Ideas?  (no,  I'm not gonna getta Holley,  _yet_)
    Suggestions?   (   ditto above..   ;^}   )
    
    Rob
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174.1CRISTA::ROCHEFri Jun 21 1996 14:5515
    Rob,
    
     Does the stuff in the bowl have a fine texture and brown in color?
    I've had problems with all my carb equipped cars with this type of
    gunk in the bowls. It seems to be much more prevalant during the
    winters months with the oxygenated fuel they use in the Northeast.
    Something in the additives appears to be what's getting left behind.
    
     As far as the type of filter you are using. I run the same type as you
    on my '67 Firebird and my '71 Monte Carlo (had a Carter AFB, changed to
    a Holley 3837 for performance reasons) and have never had a problem. In
    fact my '85 K10 and '84 Z28 had more problems with the factory style
    filter in the Quadrajets letting more crud by. 
    
    Chris
174.2AFB foliage problems :^}BSS::BUSSARDIn Too Deep to Touch the BottomWed Jun 26 1996 13:2620
    
    Chris,
    
    Yeah,  the bowls both had the crud,  which was as you described.
    But when I pulled the left bowl, cripes,  there was  a damn tree in
    there!  The offending item looked to be a piece of grass or a sliver
    of wood,  although I didn't taste it to see if it was minty like a 
    toothpick. 
    
    Around here in COS we have oxegenated fuels in the winter,  that's the 
    probable cause of the gunk in the bowls.  So I'll run some cleaner
    through it once in awhile.
    
    So,  you like the Holley better huh?   The reason I picked up the AFB 
    was 'cause I liked the way I can practically rebuild it _on the car_,
    and it's simplistic design.  Do you think the secondaries are of a
    good design?  Sometimes it appears they should be opening sooner.
    
    Thanks man!
    Rob
174.3CRISTA::ROCHEMon Jul 08 1996 13:1420
    I put the Holley on 'cuz I got it cheap, $35 for a 3837 ('67 396 350hp)
    that the previous owner had purchased new and when bolting it on he 
    snapped the base. He had it sitting in his garage for years before I 
    bought it. Found someone to weld the aluminum base back together for $25 
    and walla, a never used '67 Holley. 
    
    I really never had any problems with the Carter AFB that necessitated
    me removing it. I had purchased a street/strip jet/needle/metering rod 
    kit so I set it up to perform well. Tom Fisher (those who have been around
    awhile will remember him) has a 300hp 350 GM crate motor with the
    Edelbrock AFB clone that he's worked wonders with. He spent weeks
    tweeking the jets and metering rods until he got the performance he was
    looking for. Yes, his carb ended up with crud in it too.
    
    I think he ran a best of 14.8 (Bruce Augenstein may be able to correct
    me on this) at something like 98+ in his 3:23 geared, 4spd '81 Malibu
    Wagon. Traction and gearing was his limiting factor. The engine, with
    the tuned carb was pulling hard.
    
    Chris