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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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1873.0. "Digital Voice Processing?" by STORMY::RILEY (I *am* the D.J.) Mon Jan 23 1989 21:15

    
    Any recommendations on a "Digital Voice Processing" type of device?
    
    I've seen sales literature on a KORG DVP-1 which has 4 voice functions
    including vocorder and chorusing, but my local dealer doesn't have
    one in stock so I haven't heard it.
    
    Another dealer recommended some Roland device (list $1000) and that
    seemed way to high for what I thought I was getting.

    What I'm looking for is something which I think is the vocoder effect.
    (heavily used by funk groups such as Midnight Star?)
    
    If there's a similar topic in here, please point me to it.  I search
    for keyword = V* and title = "voc" and came up with nothing relevant.
    
    Thanks
    "jackin' the house", Bob
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1873.1one more timeANT::JANZENMr. MSI ECL TestTue Jan 24 1989 08:5442
    If there's one thing I love, it's writing the same article again
    for commusic after writing it for usenet newsletters, without a
    copy.
    	I have a 
    PAiA 6710(?) vocoder with my own style power supply.  The Vocoder 
9    was $100, supply parts were probably $25, and then I built it.
    This vocoder vocoded a pulse tone with a 
    professional FM announcer (off the radio) so that 9 out of ten words 
    were understandable.  However, it is sensitive, and external 
    limiters on the instrument and voice inputs should be used 
    (I never did this). It also has a 
    fuzz switch and various adjustments (instrument input level, voice
    input level, output level, sensitivity, through level etc.)  The mic 
    input doesn't amplify enough, so use the line input level,
    or a powerful mic.  There is no cabinet or chassis, it just screws
    into a 19" rack with the front panel supporting the PC board, so I
    put cardboard on the bottom to keep it from shorting out.  As Is.
    With manual.  I was one of the first owners, and sent corrections 
    of the manual back to PAiA.  I think they tried to give a reverb
    in return, but since there was no cover letter, I just sent it back.

    I didn't use it very often, just on one TV show and one live
    performance.  It was good for covering Laurie Anderson's O, Superman
    at home, but in live performance on my own pieces it wasn't as useful.
    It can be used as a sort of gate, so that the sound signal of drum 
    hits can allow sound from a chord on a synth to pass through.
    You can vocode anything you want, such white noise, chords
    (stick to open octaves and fifths, like laurie anderson, or it
    peaks out) or even pulse tones.  The vocoder impresses the color
    of a sound, such as your vowels, and its envelope, onto another sound, 
    if the other sound has enough harmonics in it to be impressed.  It 
    handles sibilants well enough, I guess.

    The vocoder has a bank of filters with voltage-controlled amplifiers
    on them.  the control inputs to the amplifiers are the voltages
    representing the amount of energy in the corresponding frequency
    bands of the "voice" input.  
    The original vocoder was built in the late 1930's as part of Bell
    Labs research into efficient ways of encoding voice for long telephone
    lines.
Tom
1873.2STORMY::RILEYI *am* the D.J.Tue Jan 24 1989 09:386
    
    Is this what you recommend then Tom?
    
    What else is out there?
    
    "jackin' the house", Bob
1873.3Hey Edd......STROKR::DEHAHNTue Jan 24 1989 13:337
    
    Doesn't a Yamaha SPX90 do vocoding? If so, that would be an excellent
    piece to add to your studio since it's a multieffects processor,
    with many functions. Although you can only use one at a time.
    
    CdH
    
1873.4Lotsa neat FX...WEFXEM::COTEVolume Support Specs. make it loud?Tue Jan 24 1989 16:464
    I'm not sure if it does vocording, but it is a very usable 'vocal
    processor'.
    
    Edd
1873.5ANT::JANZENMr. MSI ECL TestTue Jan 24 1989 19:503
    the spx90 does NOT do vocoding, nor ring modulation, my two old
    favorites.
    Tom