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Conference kaosws::canada

Title:True North Strong & Free
Notice:Introduction in Note 535, For Sale/Wanted in 524
Moderator:POLAR::RICHARDSON
Created:Fri Jun 19 1987
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1040
Total number of notes:13668

97.0. "Canada, Disney Style?" by STRATA::CARINI (Duj tlvoqtaH) Thu Aug 11 1988 04:32

    
      Can anyone who has been to Disney World in Florida, to the EPCOT
    Center, World Showcase, Canada Pavilion give me their opinion, as
    a Canadian, of it.  I've been to Canada many times and have talked
    to the people from Canada who work in the pavilion, but to me, it
    seems as if it is playing into the stereotype that 'all' Americans
    think about when they think of 'our 51st state to the north'.  The
    costumes alone, a lumberjack outfit, is degrating and I don't even
    live in Canada, it must be worse for you... 
    
    Any comments?
    
    Rich
    Hudson, MA
    
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97.1It's not degradingKAOM25::RICHARDSONHe who laughs bestThu Aug 11 1988 11:026
    	When you have to cut down as many trees as us Canadians, you
    have to be properly dressed. I mean there's a LOT of TREES an IGLOOS
    up here!!! 
    	Well I'm going to the cafe for a penguin sandwich.....
    
    Glenn 8')
97.2De-grade is pretty steep.KAOM25::RUSHTONRender the day obliviousThu Aug 11 1988 14:3526
>>a lumberjack outfit, is degrating and I don't even live in Canada, 
>>it must be worse for you... 
    
	Well Rich, I'm not sure what you mean by 'degrating' but I
do know that 'up' here we like to take grated cheese and put the little
bits back together again to form a large patty of cheese.  Then we hang
them up on a branch to freeze solid (or, further north above the treeline
we hang them on the windshield of a Ski-doo).  These are then used by our
kids as 'freeze-bees'.

	I like my lumberjack outfit, my wife even polishes my boots each
day with moose fat before coming to work.  The wife is really into the 
tree business, she can jump-start a chain-saw, gnaw through a tree in
seconds flat, and split 8 cords of firewood with her bare-feet.

	My father-in-law is into igloos - he eats them, especially the ones
with the soft, creamy centres!

	Well, gotta go and have some lunch - penguin soup, pemmican pat�,
minced yak hooves, all washed down with a flagon of maple syrup and
Moosehead beer...ummmmmmmmm!!

*bbuurrp*

Pat (I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK)

97.3Hope my Skidoo will start ...TRCO01::FINNEYKeep cool, but do not freeze...Thu Aug 11 1988 15:079
    Rich, don't pay any attention to the wags in .-1 & .-2 , they're only
    pulling your leg. My wife is in excellent shape, and she can only
    split 4 cords of wood with her bare feet.
    
    Gotta run, get my Gucci Lumberjack outfit on and grab my .303, going
    mosquito hunting this evening you know ...
    
    
    Scooter
97.4I can only afford a dogsleigh...KAOA05::FREREEric Frere @KAO DTN 621-2184Thu Aug 11 1988 17:1212
    If you guys don't stop, I'll
    
    sic my polar bear at you.
    
    Gone fishing...
    
    ...for supper...
    
    Can I borrow your auger?
    
    Eric
   
97.5Yer outa luck eh??KAOM25::RICHARDSONHe who laughs bestThu Aug 11 1988 17:4810
    Sorry... My auger is frozen to my daughter's tongue! Unfortunately
    my wife isn't very good at chopping wood, even WITH MOCCASINS ON,
    so I can't seem to get the igloo warm enough to thaw the auger off!!!
    
    Can anyone help??
    
    uh oh, I gotta go. The dogs are all tangled up around the snowshoes
    again......
    
    Glenn Two Igloos Richardson
97.6Joke time!KAOA03::HASIBEDERHave AMEX card, will travel...Thu Aug 11 1988 19:3616
    You must have heard the latest fishing/Newfie (person from Newfoundland
    for you foreigners) joke:
    
    Newfie is out on the ice to do some ice fishing...
    Start to make a hole in the ice and hears a booming voice say...
    "There are no fish here".
    Looks around, sees no one, moves further along the ice, and starts
    to make another hole... hears again...
    "There are no fish here!"
    Goes through the motions again of moving and making a hole and hears...
    "I told you, there are no fish here!"
    Frustrated, he shouts to the air "Who is this, God?"
    
    And the voice answers back "No you idiot, it's the Zamboni driver!"
    
    Otto.
97.7It's not Disney's faultSCOMAN::CARINIDuj tlvoqtaHFri Aug 12 1988 06:1322
    
     I hope you folks (that's Disneyese for 'people') realize that the
    Canadian Pavilion may have been designed by Disney Imagineers (that'
    Disneyese for 'Engineer') but your Ministry of Travel and Tourism
    (that's Canadian for 'Department of...', in case any Americans are
    interested...) had approved of every part of the Pavillon.  As a
    matter of fact, the pavilion shows a Circle 360 (that's Disneyese
    for 'All around ya') film, called, "O' Canada".  It's a very good
    movie showing the major cities (Canadian for 'Large group of Igloos'?)
    and their night life (not going to touch that one...) as well as
    some of the wilderness areas (in Canada? Nah...).  One of the most
    popular films in the parks.  The Disney people, in cooperation with
    the Minestry of Travel and Tourism, put together a new film.  It
    didn't show one city, just a lot of beaver and moose and many trees.
    There was so many complaints that the Disney people had to bring
    back the original film and had to scrap the new Circle 360 film.
    Seeing a film with trees all around you wasn't too thrilling, but
    you all know what it's like to be surrounded by trees, don't ya?
    
    So much for a serious inquiry,
    Rich.
    
97.8What did you expect from our government ?TRCO01::GENDRONFree advice is worth every cent!Wed Aug 17 1988 14:3214
    
    
    Just as a quick note re.7...
    
    You expected something different (or maybe I should have said 'better')
    from OUR governement?  As soon as you said it was approved by the
    Ministry of Travel and Tourism, I knew it would be something portraying
    Canada as undeveloped wildland!  They always do!
    
    But I've got to get back to teaching the kids how to harpoon whales,
    and run the dogsled, right after I change out of my lumberjack
    outfit...
    
    Dave
97.9The Fed's drop another oneOTOU01::CRAMWed Aug 17 1988 15:4918
    	I visited the World Showcase at Epcot 3 years ago. In comparison
    to the rest of Disney's acomplishments the Showcase is poor. The
    only good display's there are the US pavilion if one likes history
    and the Mexican one. I new something was wrong in the Canadian display
    when I noticed that the people had a distinct problem with their
    dialect.(no eh's).
    	When I got home I enquired re Canada's involment in the display
    and found out that when Diseny contacted the Fed's for their inputs
    they dropped the ball and did not respond. As a result the Canadian
    exhibit is an American Impression of Canada, and given the type
    of responses in this conference one can understand why Americans
    have some strange impressions of Canada.
    
    		... well back to work... sure glad these vax's are getting
    smaller. They fit in the dog-sled a little better, the Documentation
    is becoming a problem.
    
    	G'day EH
97.10A cold shoulderKAOM25::RICHARDSONHe who laughs bestThu Aug 18 1988 14:024
    
    Maybe we should put this topic on ICE for a while.
    
    
97.11Take to da store fer iceATSE::BROWNMon Aug 22 1988 16:099
    I saw this exibit the first year it started at Epcot and thought
    it was not to bad, stereotyped, but not bad. In fact I felt good
    we were represented.
    
    Well got to take to the store for ice for da previous reply and
    for da the herren(herring) and can't ferget the Players and ale
    for the scallop shuckers eh!
    
    
97.12Change in advertising focusCREDIT::LAWLERDuke for *GOVERNOR*Thu Aug 25 1988 14:2411
    
    Actually as an aside, I remember hearing that the Ministry
    of Tourism decided to tone down the "Undeveloped wilderness"
    ads, as they were having the affect of "scaring away" potential
    visitors.  As a matter of fact, most advertisements seeking
    to bring tourism to canada are now stressing the "european"
    city life, great shopping, dining and hotels.  Even Newfoundland
    is doing its best to appear Urban these days...
    
      Al_who_liked_the_wilderness_ads...
    
97.13... and no terrorsit runs on T.O. either!TRCO01::FINNEYKeep cool, but do not freeze...Thu Aug 25 1988 17:246
    re: .-1
    
    OK, FAR, where's the plan for the next Mudhawk Expedition, huh?
    Are we gonna roll the pole, or what?
    
    Scooter
97.14A ban on terrorsits!!KAOA05::FREREEric Frere @KAO DTN 621-2184Thu Aug 25 1988 21:356
    re: .13  > ... and no terrorsit runs in T.O either
    
    Can it sit and run at the same time??  Or is it terrorist with the
    runs??  If he does then he would certainly do a lot of sitting ;-)
    
    Eric_in_Ottawa_where_all_the_terrors_with_the_runs_are_in_parliment
97.15Is dat you over der scooter?CREDIT::LAWLERDuke for *GOVERNOR*Fri Aug 26 1988 08:339
    
    Re -.2 
    
      Howdy scooter,  Fancy tripping over you here - didn't recognize
    you with the snowshoes and parka, eh?...  :^)
    
      I'm still planning on a "great white north" expedition, but 
    mechanical problems have delayed it a bit, eh?...  (Can we use your
    derringer?  :^)
97.16TOPDOC::AHERNWhere was George?Fri Aug 26 1988 23:5313
    
    
    
    
    
    
                      "I'm a lumberjack, and I'm OK..."
    
    
    
    
    
    
97.17Now a word from our Sponsor...TRCO01::FINNEYKeep cool, but do not freeze...Mon Aug 29 1988 10:2111
    re: .-2
    
    yep, we can use my Derringer, if you can find it !
    (actually it's being held for ransom by an evangelist. He wants
    $150,000.00 or god is going to come and repossess the plane.)
    
    A 'terrorsit' is a seat on U.S. Air from Buffalo to Toronto.
    

    Scooter
    
97.18Another 'terror*' term...\INFACT::SCHWARTZCaught In the Daylight ZoneMon Aug 29 1988 17:085
re: .-1

A 'terroreat' is a meal on U.S. Air from <anywhere> to <anywhere>.

Russ Schwartz
97.19Ye Complete DiktionaryTRCA03::FINNEYKeep cool, but do not freeze...Thu Sep 01 1988 09:133
    ... and "terror" = U.S. Air.
    
    Scooter
97.20Otay lumberjacks?HAN05::LAZARUKTue Sep 06 1988 04:593
    Wait a minute!!  As I recall, those ok lumberjacks wore the clothes
    of their "dear Mama", just as their "dear Papa" did! 
    Chris
97.21I wish I'd been a girly....KAOM25::RICHARDSONHe who laughs bestTue Sep 06 1988 08:202
    Stop that!! It's silly!! I started out as a nice little idea about
    Canadians being stereotyped but now it's just got silly!!!
97.22... just like my dear papa !TRCO01::FINNEYKeep cool, but do not freeze...Tue Sep 06 1988 17:271
    I'm monotyped ... and I am not silly