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Article: 2827
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Subject: 'Shame-on-Columbus' eclipse coming: astronomer
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 92 15:13:51 PST
 
	MIAMI (UPI) -- A Miami astronomer Monday named the upcoming
lunar eclipse the ``Shame On You, Christopher Columbus Eclipse''
because of its historical significance. 

	Jack Horkheimer, Executive Director of the Miami Space Transit
Planetarium said the Dec. 9 event is a repeat of a similar eclipse the
Italian explorer used to ``extort provisions from native Americans.'' 

	``Back in 1504 when Columbus was marooned in what is now St.
Anne's Bay, Jamaica and extremely short on supplies, he decided he
would frighten the natives into giving him anything he wanted,''
Horkheimer said.  ``Using his German almanac, he summoned the
chieftains to a meeting on the afternoon of February 29th knowing 
that a total lunar eclipse would occur a few hours later. 

	``Columbus told the chieftains that God observed with
disapproval how negligent they were in bringing provisions to His
chosen ones.  Therefore God would presently send them a clear token
from heaven of the punishment they were about to receive.'' 

	Horkeimer said a repeat of the 75-minute eclipse that natives
observed that evening will begin at 6:07 p.m. EST, and be most
spectacular in North and South America from a line drawn east of the
Mississippi River. 

	``They'll see a bit of it on the west coast, but Hawaii's not
going to see it,'' he said. 

	A lunar eclipse occurs when Earth is aligned directly between 
the Sun and the full Moon. 

	Horkheimer said the Moon could turn various shades of red as
Earth's shadow flows across its surface at speeds of more than 2,000 mph. 
The redness occurs from sunlight filtering through Earth's atmosphere.

	``The Indians were so frightened, that with great howling...
they came running to the ship, laden with provisions, beseeching
(Columbus) to intercede,'' Horkeimer said. ``So it seems like almost
cosmic justice that during the last month of the 500th anniversary of
a man of great ego and small principle that the heavens themselves are
proclaiming that Columbus was not such a nice guy after all by staging
a lunar eclipse that will appear almost exactly like the one in 1504.'' 

                                                            
    Shades of "A Connecticut Yankee in King Author's court!"
    
    Any connection, by chance?
    
    Cindy

    
    The effects of a lunar eclipse usually last about 3 months.  Solar
    eclipse effects can last from 6 months to a year, generally.  If you
    have your birthchart, see where 18 degrees of Gemini falls.  This
    area will be sensitized for about 3 months.  Depending on what house
    it occurs in, if any planets are aspected, and if you have any
    transits/progressions to the eclipse degree, you can determine what
    kind of impact this eclipse could have on you.
    
    Carole

    Wish I hadn't read this one .....
    
    The eclipse in gemini hits my Jupiter right about next week, in the
    house of my career.  Major and sudden changes expected here, especially
    with a tfso coming ... :-(

    
    Brian,
    
    I wouldn't look at this negatively!  Having the eclipse hit your
    Jupiter in the 10th house could very well indicate some new
    opportunities coming your way over the 3 month period after the
    eclipse.  Keep your options open and stay aware of what is out
    there.  If I were having this scenario in my own chart, I'd be
    very optimistic!
    
    Carole

    Carole,
    
    I need a class to understand the astrology terminology.  What
    does one look for on their chart to find 18 degrees of Gemini
    or figure it out in language an 8 year old could figure out?
    
    Joanne 

RE:         <<< Note 1773.7 by MAYES::FRETTS "at the turning point..." >>>
    
�    I wouldn't look at this negatively!  Having the eclipse hit your
�    Jupiter in the 10th house could very well indicate some new
�    opportunities coming your way over the 3 month period after the
�    eclipse.  Keep your options open and stay aware of what is out
�    there.  If I were having this scenario in my own chart, I'd be
�    very optimistic!
    
    On the other hand, it could indicate absolutely nothing apart from the
    fact that stars and planets constantly move their positions relative to
    the earth.
    
    Laurie.

    >remember that everyone has an eclipse every month. it's called a "new"
    >moon.
    
    But that is not the moon being eclipsed by the Earth's shadow.

    Jamie.

    
    Hi Joanne,
    
    Not having your chart handy, I don't know where this occurs
    for you.  Here is the symbol for Gemini:
    
         ______
          |  |
          |  |
         ------
    
    Look at your chart and see what house cusp(s) (the lines of the
    pie shapes) it corresponds to.  There is a possibility that
    Gemini might be intercepted, meaning it falls between two house 
    cusps so it is not reflected on the cusps themselves.
    Each sign is 30 degrees.  Once you locate where Gemini is in
    your chart, just look at the larger number next to it to get
    an idea at what degree the cusp starts at and count either
    forward or backward (or if intercepted, it will fall almost 
    smack in the middle).
    
    It's difficult to describe if you are not familiar with the
    chart wheel, and we don't have it in front of us.
    
    Carole
    

    Hey Carole,
    
    Do you remember where it falls on my chart?  I lost it.  I'd like to
    have another done though sometime.... when you're not too busy.
    
    mary

    
    No Mary, I don't remember where it falls exactly.  Sorry.
    
    If only I could just hook up to my Mac from here! ;^)
    
    Carole

    ... the miracles of modern technology.... :-)
    
    I'd really appreciate it if you could check it out for me....
    .... something's up, Carole... do you feel it?

    Yes, Carole, everything can be viewed in either light.  When I was
    looking at this, however, I was in my sickbed trying to balance an NEC
    laptop while resisting the urge to cough and make my throat feel even
    worse!  It's hard to remain positive all the time ;-)
    
    Brian

    
    Take care of yourself, Brian.
    
    
    Carole

    ... and try to stay positive... I know.. it's really hard to do
    sometimes.

    I just got thru with watchin the Full_Moon/Eclipes.
    From my View_Point in Northen_Mass. It took about an Hour and 45 Mins.
    The Reflected side of the Moon started on it's left side at around
    7pm and completed to a Full_Shinin_Moon at Around 8:45.
    It was ......Some_Thin_Else.    
    
                                              Al

  I saw about the first 2/3 of it, and it was the clearest lunar eclipse
  I've had the chance to observe. Beautiful. I didn't remember to try to
  tune in for spiritual energy. Did any else "hear" anything?

    I did magick during the eclipse... a beautiful spell it was too.. 

    I entered the original note.  I found out on Monday that I will be
    TFSO'd next week.  I am divorced and raising four boys alone yet I
    still feel very positive about my path and am truly excited about
    being challenged and motivated again.  I feel a lot of complacency at
    DEC right now.  The morale around here has been worse than any
    place I've ever worked.  I've tried to stay on top of everything but no
    one seems to care about their jobs anymore and the environment has been
    so unproductive.  
    
    I have the chance to build again and feel happy that I'll have some
    positive things happen in 1993.  We do have to create our own
    opportunities and remain steadfast in faith and grounded in love.  In
    the end all things work out and we are always so limited by what we see
    in the present without really looking down the road 20 years or so when
    the picture will be much more complete.  I like tapestries and often
    compare my life to one.  This is just on thread of many that will
    create a beautiful masterpiece one day.
    
    Remember...yesterday has passed beyond our reach-we can't cling to it,
    tomorrow is no more than a hopeful dream, we can't always count on it,
    but today is a coin in eternity's treasure...we have to rejoice in it.
                                                              

    
    RE: .22
    
    Wishing you much happiness!
    
    Carole

    Gawd !  Four boys and one parent !   
    You've got my highest respect.
    
    Glad you can see the positives in it.
    
    I'd probably be sitting in a corner, cutting out paper dolls and
    singing nursery rhymes to myself.
    
    				best of luck,
    
    				todd
    

    ...also wishing you much joy and happiness... 

    .22  Good luck, and best wishes.  Enjoyed reading your note.
    
    And thanks for the positive encouragement that came my way ....

                     
    Re.22
    
    Best wishes to you and your family always!  May something far 
    better come your way.
    
    Cindy

.22

	What a marvelous attitude you have!..  It always seems to 
	me that after all the 'doom and gloomers' one NOTE like
	yours and it feels okay.

	thank you, for that note...

	Yes, there is life after DEC, and wishing you the best of
	it.

	Mikki

    RE: .22
    
    I commend you on your inspiring attitude.  I'm confident that it will
    posture you on to many great things; I believe your boys are both a
    driver and a nourisher of that good energy.
    
    By the way, you easst-coasters got 100% of that eclipse (here in NM we
    got 65-70%).  I wish you one hundred percent sucess in your future.
    
    regards,
    Tony