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1680.1 | oh yeah... | BRYAN::TREBILCOTT | GM/EDS Account Group | Fri Jun 12 1992 17:20 | 4 |
| btw: I manged an 89 on that calculus final...the highest grade on a
math final that year...
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1680.2 | | HELIX::KALLIS | Pumpkins ... Nature's greatest gift. | Fri Jun 12 1992 18:06 | 21 |
| Re .0:
Some people think "psychic" ability is hereditary; others believe asnyone can do
it. I tend to believe the former, but will present both sides.
Heredity:
Some families show more than a trace of ability, and it often goes from
generation to generation. Simplest explanation is that a psychic is born
with facilities that others have missed out on. [Kinda the inverse of color-
blindness, which is also hereditary.]
Universal:
Some claim "everybody can do it" but that as we grow up, one or another
facility is suppressed. (E.g., learning how to talk bypasses and
negates the use of telepathy.)
The jury is out on both.
Steve Kallis, Jr.
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1680.3 | | ENABLE::glantz | Mike @TAY 227-4299 TP Eng Littleton | Mon Jun 15 1992 10:11 | 11 |
| If psychic ability exists, why would it be much different from any
other human ability?
Almost anyone can be taught to play piano. Some people learn how to
play without instruction (can do it naturally). Very few people will
ever play like Vladimir Horowitz.
Almost anyone can be taught how to exercise their psychic faculties.
Some people learn how to do it without instruction (can do it
naturally). Very few people will ever achieve the mastery of Rumi.
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1680.5 | Is it possible to have it but be afraid of it? | BRYAN::TREBILCOTT | GM/EDS Account Group | Tue Jun 16 1992 22:38 | 32 |
| Is it possible to have psychic ability but to not be able to draw on
them because of either fear or skepticism?
For example, after my best friend John died, the one I predicted his
death? Well, he came to me in dreams for several years afterwords, and
a lot of the times he would show up and I would say, "We've got to call
my mom! You've got to talk to her" and we'd rush to a phone and my mom
would answer. I'd say, "Mom, I've got Dr. Webster on the phone!" then
hand the phone to her and he say, "Hello? Hello?" But she would never
be able to hear him. When I would wake up I would tell her about the
dreams and she would say, "He was my friend too, I wonder why he
doesn't come to me in my dreams?"
I hypothesized that she didn't believe it was him, maybe, or she was
afraid. She was afraid to believe it was true...psychic abilities.
She always respected what I had (gift) but was more than a little
afraid of it. She had heard the spirit go into my room, but still
didn't want to believe what she had heard. She thought it was terribly
spooky that I was seeing spirits after my anyeurism.
Since I know her mother had had experiences (when I was in surgery, a
spirit came to my grandmother in the hospital and told her I was going
to be alright), so I have wondered if my mother had opened her mind,
that she would not be able to experience the same abilities?
That would support the theory that everyone has the ability but not
everyone is able to use it?
Elizabeth
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1680.6 | | SMILEY::GRIFFIN | Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty | Fri Jun 19 1992 14:17 | 6 |
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My personal belief is that, yes, personal beliefs and fears can prevent
someone from using psychic abilities, by unconsciously creating mental
blocks, and psychic barriers.
Beth
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1680.7 | Lost it? | STAR::SROBERTSON | | Wed Feb 03 1993 11:06 | 17 |
| I 'believe' yes...I also believe everyone has the 'capability'...
I know 'it' can be blocked for some reason and I don't know what that
reason is...could be from stress; focusing too hard on disturbing
situations; being caught up in the everyday humdrum and not allowing
the sensitivity to be recognized; or could it be that a more
'experienced' one blocking for you...dunno, but I do know it happens.
I used to be more sensitive than I am now and I'm not sure I like it!
This 'desensitization' occurred only recently, actually since I left my
first husband (dirty divorce). Now I find I don't retreat into myself
anymore and for the first time, I am happy! I never thought about it
and by writing this note, I am starting the analysis as to the 'whys'.
Anyone have any thoughts or have I truly lost my mind this time!!! ;)
Sandra
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1680.8 | Dad was frightened by the power. | CSC32::D_ROYER | Chi beve birra campa cent'anni. | Tue Jun 08 1993 17:34 | 16 |
| My Father would make strange statements, like "I will never see Him
Alive again," they always came true. He would dream of a place to go
hunting and see a deer there, and always came back with game.
I however have not done much of this, but just before Christmas a few
years ago, I was in the kitchen hanging lights around the windows, and
I told my wife, "I think I am going to fall!" She asked if I were
dizzy or anything, I said no, just a feeling. I walked near the stove
that was in the counter, and there was a small spot of oil there, My
heel slipped and I did a prat fall onto the stove, and bent it badly
and caused major pain to my posterior. That is my only incident.
Dave
Son of a seer?
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1680.9 | | VERGA::STANLEY | | Wed Jun 09 1993 18:04 | 1 |
| Yep...
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1680.10 | The lineage continues, it seems | ROMEOS::TREBILCOT_EL | | Sun Oct 09 1994 21:44 | 54 |
| It's been some time since I've put anything in here, but recent
incidents have occurred..
There is another note in here somewhere in which someone speaks of
their young child saying something to the effect of, "Remember when I
was the big person and you were little? Remember before ...?" The
child was remembering a past life, I believe.
My mother has become more open to things in the time since I put the
original note...and now there are more people in the family. I have a
young niece who has recently been showing some behavior which alludes
to her having ability of a phenomenon-type nature.
Her mother told us how recently when she was in a waiting room with
Kaila at a hospital, my niece (who is just under 3) kept pointing to a
man who was a perfect stranger and saying, "There's grandpa," and was
very insistent, even when her mother repeatedly told her no it wasn't.
I suggested to my mom that maybe in another life he was her
grandmother...who knew?
My mother told me recently of some other events that have been going on
with Kaila that would display evidence that she remembers things before
she was born.
For instance...she has the typical vocabulary skills of someone who is
about to turn 3...yet there is a certain song that comes on the radio
and Kaila not only knows every word, she sings it with perfect
clarity, and has since the very first time she heard it. It's not a
song she hears often either, and her mother can't explain her behavior
nor why the song seems to mean so much to Kaila. My mom says her eyes
just light up and, "You should see the look on her face when it comes
on..."
Kaila's mom doesn't seem to have any of the psychic ability, nor
belief. My brother has it a little, we think, but he won't talk about
it ... is a bit afraid of it it seems...
My mom wanted to know what I thought she should do...
I merely suggested that she not tell Kaila she is wrong about
something, but maybe ask her WHY she thought it. Like why she thought
the man was her grandfather or something...or when he was?
I don't believe children should be told they are wrong about their
feelings but how would you deal with a child who displays behavior
which implies she remembers being here before? There are other
incidents, and according to my own mom, they are gaining in frequency.
What do you (readers/noters) think about this? Would you just let
things go and see how it develops? Should we ask her questions?
Curious...
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1680.11 | *NOT* | KIRKTN::JJACK | Coca-Cola Red Hot Celtic | Sun Oct 09 1994 21:55 | 14 |
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Dear Curious,
Could it not simply be a case of the stranger you mentioned, resembling
her grandfather (i.e. Male, over 60 bald/grey).
Nothing in your entry makes me think for a minute that this child is
any different from any other.
My mates daughter, who's 2 years old, thinks Frank Windsor (who does
the TV adverts for Cornhill Insurance Over 60's plan) is her grandpa.
Does this mean this child has had previous past lifes as the
grand-daughter of Old, famous TV stars ????
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1680.12 | Not exactly the grandfatherly type! | ROMEOS::TREBILCOT_EL | | Sun Oct 09 1994 23:55 | 13 |
| She has only met one of her grandfathers, my dad, and he is WAY UNDER
60 years old and has blond hair, all of it, is very young and very
physically fit. No one would look at him and call him the typical
grandfatherly type. She has never met the other grandfather so she has
no basis upon which to call an old man in his sixties a grandfather...
So, re: -1, should we tell her she is wrong?
There are other incidents that I don't have all the details of, as she
is in Michigan and I am now in California, but i was wondering what you
"think" is the way to handle them, should they arise?
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1680.13 | | TNPUBS::PAINTER | Planet Crayon | Mon Oct 10 1994 13:12 | 18 |
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>So, re: -1, should we tell her she is wrong?
Well, I'm not -1, but I would definitely not tell her she is wrong.
That's what most parents do - denial of the child's reality based on
their own extremely limited one. Instead, ask her to explain more,
and you may be very surprised at the answers.
I particularly like the story of "Mister God, This Is Anna", by Fynn -
about a little girl who has insights far beyond her years, and how her
older friend Fynn interacts with her. Might give you some ideas. It's
a true story, too.
In the Mayan language, the words have meaning when spelled both
forwards and backwards. For the word 'baby', spelled backwards it also
means 'old soul'.
Cindy
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1680.14 | Childhood memories | DECWET::MEIKLE | | Mon Oct 10 1994 18:51 | 12 |
| I agree that you should not tell the child that she is wrong about her
memories. When my daughter was a similar age (between 2 and 3) she
asked me a similar question: "Mommy, do you remember when I was the
mommy and you were my baby?" It really floored me! I responded by
saying that I didn't remember, did she? Her response was on the order
of "Of course!"
All her life, I've believed that she was an old soul, and still do.
She lost her memories of being the mommy, but we know that we've
been together before.
Donna
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1680.15 | Just listen . it's a good idea! | ROMEOS::TREBILCOT_EL | | Tue Oct 11 1994 15:04 | 10 |
| Thank you for your input! I agree with you that we should not tell her
she is wrong.
Apparently the parents DO believe in these things but don't really know
how to deal with it. I guess if they just listen and not criticize
they may be able to gain some insight.
Thanks again for your input!
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