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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

285.0. "No Blue Moon" by INK::KALLIS (Support Hallowe'en) Fri Jan 16 1987 08:49

    The other day was a full moon.  A few things happened that were
    decidedly unusual, though not earth-shaking. [Example: I had a project
    in mind that I was going to do immediately after returning from
    work that night.  Some of the tools were in the trunk of my car.
    On the way to work (and I left early to make sure the workload wouldn't
    overflow into the time I'd set aside), my car died on the road.
    I was cable to make it back to the house, call the garage, and discover
    the only mechanic present didn't have transportation.  Eventuaslly,
    the mechanic came and nothing could be done to start the car: the
    carburator malfunctioned.  the car was towed to the garage, and
    when I arrived after work, the mechanic had left and nobody could
    find the key to the trunk; my project went down the drain for that
    night.  Oddly, the mechanic had never hidden keys like that before.]
    
    Tradition is that strange things happen on full (and to a lesser
    extent, new) moons.
    
    I'm opening this note for those who want to record unusual events
    during full or new moons.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
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285.1MILRAT::KEEFEFri Jan 16 1987 10:379
    On Wednesday or Thursday one of the copter pilots that does traffic
    reports commented that the full moon must be affecting the way people
    were driving that night.
    
    I usually notice drivers getting more aggressive a day or so before
    the full moon.
    
    	- Bill
    
285.2THE MOON ISN'T ANY DIFFERENT WHEN "FULL"EDEN::KLAESAlchemists get the lead out.Fri Jan 16 1987 11:0412
    	I cannot see how phases would affect people's behavior - at
    least in the physical sense - as it is just sunlight striking the
    lunar surface.
    
    	The Moon's relatively strong gravitational pull might affect
    some chemical balances in the brain (my theory), but at the "full
    Moon" phase, the Moon is no different distance or makeup-wise than
    any other time.  It is probably the mass-suggstion of full Moons
    causing strange things which affect people.
    
    	Larry
    
285.3In A Way, It IsINK::KALLISSupport Hallowe'enFri Jan 16 1987 11:208
    re .2:
    
    Not necessarily.  Full and New moons produce Spring tides (i.e.,
    additive to solar tides), "half" moond produce neap tides (opposing
    solar tides).  This _might_ have a physiological effect.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
285.4Back to the BasicsNEXUS::DEVINS256K WOMFri Jan 16 1987 12:1421
   Quick random thoughts:   

   Full moon occurs only when sun and moon in apposition (opposite sides
of earth).  If gravitational difference in that near-alignment (alignment
exact only during total eclipse of moon) is sufficient to create major
tidal differences, what else can it create?

   Relationship between gravity and electromagnetism still speculative but
nonetheless hotly debated in some quarters.  Who knows what electromagnetism
can do to synaptic functioning?  Synapsis appears to be electrochemical
process.

   Many CSC customers snuffle and snort a lot on phone during full moon,
and probably have hair growing out of their sleeves...



                                                  ? 8-)

   
285.5There is a differenceBCSE::WMSONIllegitimi non carborundumFri Jan 16 1987 12:4917
    I commute about 45 minutes to and from work.  A couple of years
    ago my carpooler and I noted a decided difference in the driving
    habits of those on the road with us - to a point where one of may
    a remark to the effect that "it must be full moon" and didn't think
    any more about it --- until aobut a month later we noticed the change
    again and I happened to know that it _was_ a full moon.  Since that
    time I have been watching the way people drive on a regular basis
    and very definitely drivers are more agressive, take more chances,
    are less courteous, and more thoughtless beginning about 2 or 3
    days before the full moon and tapering off very rapidly (1 day)
    afterwards.
    
    I won't propose an explanation of _why_ its true but it has been
    consistant for as long as I have been observing it.
    
    				Bill
     
285.6Animal instinctRAINBO::TBAKERTom BakerFri Jan 16 1987 14:0215
    RE: everybody
    
    Maybe "we" are looking in the wrong place for an explaination.
    
    On nights when I look up and see the full moon, sometimes I just
    want to howl!
    
    So, perhaps the effect isn't from the moon but rather from us seeing
    it.
    
    And, yes, this was a very strange full moon.  Mix a full moon with
    warmer than normal temps in the fall or winter and the psychie (sp?)
    can just go nuts!   I LOVE IT!!!!
    
    Tom
285.7RE 285.6EDEN::KLAESAlchemists get the lead out.Fri Jan 16 1987 15:336
    	As I said a few notes earlier, it could be the result of
    mass suggestions from our society over many generations of belief
    that the Moon affects human behavior.
    
    	Larry
    
285.8No "Full Moon Fan Clubs" registered ...INK::KALLISSupport Hallowe'enFri Jan 16 1987 16:2713
    Re .6:
    
    Again, not that simple.  There are many "moon related" examples
    in society -- and out of it.  My cats, for one, grow restless and
    in the case of the Siamese, somewhat feisty, close to the full moon
    -- and they're inside cats.
    
    I'll wager that not one person in 20 is aware of the phase of the
    moon unless they happen to be looking at it.  If so, "societal
    suggestion" wouldn't affect actions.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
285.9Individual Differences to Keep in MindNATASH::BUTCHARTMon Jan 19 1987 10:4775
    Some people who study themselves closely will notice a "full moon"
    period very strongly one month, then notice next to nothing the
    next.  They will perhaps conclude that there's nothing to it and
    chalk up their occasional "loonieness" to coincidence.
    
    If one makes a detailed study of one's birthchart one can track
    where the new and full moons will occur throughout the year.  A
    good ephemeris will give the degree and minute of the sign that
    the lunations occur in.  You can then check in your birthchart from
    month to month to see - and this is what is important - if any
    lunations are aspecting any of your natal planetary placements.
    My experience is that the months (and sometimes years) when they
    do not "touch" any of my natal planets by aspect, the effects of
    both new and full moons are rather muted.  But the months when my
    natal planetary placements _are_ touched by a lunation are a different
    story.
    
    The aspect made to the planet by the lunation is interesting to
    study.  Conjunctions, when either the new or full moon actually
    happens right on top of one the natal planetary placements, are
    very powerful, especially if that planet aspects the natal moon.  
    Squares and oppositions to natal placements can produce, in my own 
    (admittedly limited) experience, the "looniest" behaviors.  This
    seems especially true of a full moon that squares a natal planet.
    (Since the sun and moon are opposing each other, they will be
    squaring the planet from two different directions.  No wonder some
    people get a trifle giddy some months.)  Trines and sextiles are 
    traditionally believed to create lovely effects, but more often 
    (for me) simply mean that I sail through an otherwise difficult
    time, often wondering why I have such suddenly developed such 
    psychological stamina. 
    
    The House in the birthchart that the new and full moon occurs in
    tells you where the effects can occur most strongly.  In addition,
    the Houses in the chart that have the Signs Cancer and Leo on their 
    cusps will often feel repercussions too.  Incidentally, when the 
    new moons occur in those signs (which they do in the summer) I 
    hear most people being conscious of and remarking on new moon effects.
    In the winter, when the full moons occur in those signs (with the
    Sun being in Capricorn or Aquarius) I hear more people remark on
    and notice effects of the full moon.
    
    On a personal front:  This past month's lunation cycle had strong
    effects, internal rather than external.  My Sun is in Capricorn 
    and the full moon landed right opposite it, coinciding with the 
    solar return.  It occurred in the 6th and 12th Houses that have to
    with physical and emotional integration.  Effects?  I have enjoyed 
    (?) very intense dream states, especially last week, which seemed 
    bent on revealing which parts of myself were at war with each other.
    I also achieved great insight into how those warring parts sabotaged
    conscious will and intentions (Sun).  I also became more health-
    conscious (6th House) and began steps to clean up my act by developing
    better habits (also a 6th House concern).  And began learning a
    new discipline to harness the power of the subconscious (12th House)
    to assist the process.  This after becoming extremely aware of how
    that same subconscious tended to undermine efforts along that line
    (internal dialogue runs along the lines of "this is what I know
    I should do, (Sun in 6th) but this is what I feel I need" (Moon
    in 12th)).
    
    I also found myself having to concentrate hard on careful driving,
    feeling at times as if I had only narrowly escaped an accident.
    When I checked other planets that might have been "touched", that
    Other turned out to be an inconjunct (150 degree aspect) to natal
    Mars.  Internal state and outward actions out of sync, so to speak.
    Since Mars and Moon are in rough aspect in my natal chart, when
    a lunation puts them in rough aspect I tend to notice conflicts
    between inner needs and outer actions more than usual.  One nice
    effect though: transiting Uranus was inconjunct the full moon also
    and sextile to Mars.  Uranus rules my 7th House (relationships),
    where Mars is natally placed and is transiting the 5th House (fun
    and games).  Some very active socializing has been occurring this past
    week that I've been very "up" for.  (But I let my husband drive.)
    
    Marcia
285.10AAYUUUPBRAT::WALLISTue Jan 20 1987 12:2710
    
    
    Ask anyone who works in or who has worked with medical patients
    and you'll find a resounding YES to the question of whether or not 
    the  full moon effects folks  -  nor would you hear them say it
    was a positive effect.  I have and that's definately been my experience.
    
    Lora
                                 
285.11full moonsJJM::ASBURYFri Nov 20 1987 15:4818
    I have definitely noticed a difference in people's behavior    
    around the time of the full moon and, quite often, the new moon.
    Personally, I find that I am quite a bit more outgoing, lighthearted,
    and often downright silly around the time of the full moon. (I've
    read many times that we Pisceans are more affected by such things
    than most.) 
    
    What I find even more fascinating, however, is something I noticed
    while in college. I worked in our Computer Center, "fetching" output
    and answering questions, etc. Every so often, I would come in to
    work and the questions I would be asked and the malfunctions of
    the equipment would be numerous and really *off the wall*. 
    
    When this would happen, I'd usually remark, half serious, to the
    operator that "weird things are happening, must be a full moon..."
    Later in the day, I'd usually check the calendar and *sure enough!*
    it would be a full moon. This never failed! 
    
285.12And Its Well Known Throughout DEC!GRECO::MISTOVICHMon Nov 30 1987 12:454