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    Rumor has it that Reggie Rembert (WR) of West Virginia is a 
    possibility.  I doubt it though - the Jets were never a team
    to let common sense rule their drafting.  Maybe things will
    be different with Steinberg...
    
    My personal interest is in who the Patriots will draft (also
    having a high pick).  My brother-in-law, in one of the rare
    moments when he says something that makes sense, suggests
    Percy Snow of Michigan State.
    
    If anyone has the official order, maybe we could start a
    "first-round draft predictions" note later...
    
    
    						Roland

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   Here's the order for the April 22-23 NFL Draft:
1.x Dallas		15. K.C.
2. Atlanta		16. New Orleans
3. N.Y. Jets		17. Buffalo
4.y Phoenix		18. Pittsburgh
5. New England		19. Houston
6. Tampa Bay		20. Green Bay (Cleve.)
7. San Diego		21. Green Bay
8. Chicago		22. Atlanta (Wash.)
9. Detroit		23. Minnesota
10. Seattle		24. L.A. Rams
11. Miami		25. Philadelphia
12. Seattle (Ind.)	26.z Denver
13. L.A. Raiders	27. N.Y. Giants
14. Cincimmati		28. San. Fran.

x-Selected Steve Walsh in Supp. Draft
y-Selected Tim Rosenbach"  "     "
z-Selected Bobby Humphrey  "     "

    Lions draft 7th?  I'll take it I guess...
    
    I'd like to see them draft McCants (yeah right) or Snow...
    After that, they don't need a RB.  I don't think they need a
    QB right now.  That rules out either Thompson, who I think 
    the Jets, or even NE could use.  If Rembert's Rice quality,
    I'd grab him, otherwise I'd say a lineman.  Anyone got list
    of top choices?

    Walt,
    
    I have a list of potential first rounders at home. 
    I'll try and post it tomorrow.  From what I remember-
    
    QB - Peter Tom Willis, Tommy Hodson  (potentail firsts)
    	 John Friesz, Jeff George, Mike Buck, Frank Bauer (after 1sts)
    
    RB - Blair Thomas, Anthony Thompson, Darrell Thompson
    
    WR - Reggie Rembert, Clarkston Hines (?, if senior)
    
    LB - Keith McCants, Percy Snow, Aaron Wallace, Johny Bailey
    
    Jeff 

>    QB - Peter Tom Willis, Tommy Hodson  (potentail firsts)
>    	 John Friesz, Jeff George, Mike Buck, Frank Bauer (after 1sts)
                                   ---------


     What are scouts saying about Mike Buck ?  Not very often a quarterback
     from the University of Maine was ever discussed as a draft possibility.

    .5
    
    I heard his (Buck's) name being tossed around in the Patriots
    Notesfile so I figured that I'd add it to the list.
    
    If Ware and Harris do not come out for the draft, then I don't
    think it's worth using a first rounder on any of these guys.
    
    Signing Neil Lomax and giving him an incentive based contract 
    would be a much better move than spending a first round pick, and
    first round money on those guys.  They might pan out in a few years
    but I don't think that they'd be worth it.
    
    There are quite a few teams without legitimate QB's- the Patriots,
    Raiders, Jets, Chargers, and the Cheifs come to mind immediately.
    
    Jeff

     The guy to watch in the draft is a MLB from Baylor. His last name is
     Francis, don't remember his first name. I saw two Baylor games this
     year he was amazing. He's huge 6'5" 240lbs and real fast. Just as good
     as Percy Snow. He can play DE and OLB also.

     Chuck

	Atlanta has the first pick, and they've been talking to the Broncos
about some trades. Atlanta still has another pick in the first round (from
Washington). They've spent the last couple of years beefing up on defense, and
now they really need offensive help. The rumors I heard were, Broncos get the
first pick overall, Atlanta wants Mark Jackson, Clarence Kay, Broncos 2nd round
this year, and the Broncos 1st, 2nd, and 3rd in `91'.

	I think the Donks would go for the first part of that deal, but I can't
see them being stupid enough to cripple themselves in `91' that way.

Mike JN

    .7 
    
    James Francis is the LB from Baylor.  I think that the scouts
    have him rated directly after McCants, Snow and Aaron Wallace 
    of Texas A&M. 
    
    .8
    
    Who would Denver draft with that pick?  McCants?
    
    Jeff

�    Who would Denver draft with that pick?  McCants?
    
Jeff,

	I think if Denver got #1 McCants would be a lock.

Mike JN

    	There's a lot of speculation that the Jets will trade their #1 pick
    to the Cowboys after Atlanta makes the first pick. I guess it make a
    difference who the Falcons snag. If the trade is made, the Jets get one
    of the Cowboys second round picks and Steve Walsh.
    
    Possibilities:
    
    Atlanta -  RB (Thompson?), WR, OL
    Jets    -  Trade (Walsh), DL, LB (McCants?)
    Pats    -  Trade (QB?), QB, C, RB, LB (Snow, Francis)
    
    Ken

    	Are there any really outstanding all around Tight Ends who block
    and catch available???
    
    Ken

Ken,

Three excellent TE's in this years draft:

Charles Arbuckle, UCLA, 6-2, 235, 4.85
Missed some playing time because of a knee injury, but played 
hurt and was still effective. Excellent blocker, good receiver, 
big boy.

Dave Colonna (Berman is gonna have a field day with this guy), 
Duke, 6-5.5(!), 240, 4.9
Needs some work, but has good hands, is a good runnerand is quick 
for his size. Needs help on pass blocking.

Scott Galbraith, USC, 6-2.5, 240, 4.8
Quick, good receiver, can go deep, decent blocker.

There are others, but these 3 seem to be the best this draft has 
to offer with the exception of Brian Ross from Texas A&M who is a 
project, but could surprise.

Daryll

    The Cowboys have said that they will be rebuilding in the off season. 
    Walsh has said that he doesn't see himself in a Cowboy uniform next
    year.  This all says that Dallas is willing to deal with somebody. 
    They need help at wide reciever and defensive line.  Who would the Jets
    be willing to part with in these areas?  Would the Jets keep 3 QB's
    (Eason, O'Brien, Walsh)?

    I can't answer you on that Mac, but I would say that the Jets could
    easily keep O'B, Eason and Walsh. They could develop Walsh over the
    next year and have him ready for 1991.
    
    Ken

    
    What about dallas boy Irvin Fryar for Steve Walsh???

    
    Steve Walsh is worth atleast two irving fryars.....
    
    mike

    Mac,
    
    If Michael Irvin and Kelvin Martin can stay healthy next year
    the Cowboys would be well off there, relative to their offensive
    and defensive lines. 
    
    Of course, if they had a top pick in the draft (Jets) they should
    definitely take the best available linebacker with that pick.
    
    Jeff                                                         

  Irvin Fryar is at the most worth a late second round pick. Guys with great
  speed and talent that don't produce are a dime a dozen specially at the 
  WR spot. I know, Dallas has 3 already in Dixon, Sheppard, and Ford and they
  are all 4 years younger than Fryar.
  
  Micheal Irvin and Kelvin Martin are quality recievers but both blew out knees
  this year, I don't know what the status of either one is now. The Cowboys
  need a top LB, WR, RB, DL. They do have 6 picks in the 1st 3 rounds of the
  up and comming draft. Rumor has it that a lot of college juniors will come
  out this year because of the fear that the NFL will go to a rookie salary
  structure soon. This maybe the last year for real big bucks for rookies.

  I'm Looking forward to the draft.

  Chuck

    .19
    
    Irvin Frays are not a dime a dozen hes a threat every time he gets
    the ball. And a punt return pro bowl type player.

    Irvin Frays a pro bowler?
    
    Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha
    
    Mark.

    Re:20
    
>>    Irvin Frays are not a dime a dozen hes a threat every time he gets
>>    the ball. And a punt return pro bowl type player.

      Your 100% correct. He has all the potential in the world but has only
      been an average WR (except the year they went to the Super Bowl).
      There are a lot of guys in the NFL with the speed and ability to go
      all the way every time they touch the ball but they don't do it often
      enough. To be nice I won't call him a head-case but I will say he must
      have a problem concentrating. He's a dime a dozen.

      Chuck

       re: Fryar the pro-bowler
       Candelpins or 'real' bowling?
                                         Denny

    Anyone know who the BEars are looking at?  I hope it is a lineman,
    offensive of defensive.  

    As far as Jeff George being the next Marino, I see him as, perhaps
    the next Kosar.
    
    Rich
    

    Re:.-1 George the next Marino or Kosar?
    
    Risking being a sour Boiler, I really don't think George will be that
    good.  But I could be wrong.
    
    Charles

    re -1
    
    George's delivery reminds me more of Kosar's when Bernie was at
    Miami. Half sidearm slinger.
    
    Rich
    

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    steve

    After the offensive coordinator for the University of Houston was
    promoted to head coach, the press was again after Andre Ware about his
    plans for next year.  Ware said that he will be back with the Cougars.
    
    It's starting to look like McCants will come out early.

    re < .12
    best TE in the draft has to be Eric Green out of Liberty he's 6'4"
    268 lbs...and a great blocker with good hands.....watch for him....
    
    the first pick in the draft will no doubt be McCants regaurdless
    of which team ends up with the pick...and he will come out...his
    faimly needs the money....now if only the Skins could get the top
    pick...ahhhh but they'd trade it away anyways....

    It's offical, McCants has declared himself for the 1990 draft.  I hear
    around here that the Atlanta organization is already talking with his
    representative.
    
    Roy L.

from USA Today:

Underclassmen that may declare for the NFL
	Junior Seau, LB, Southern Cal
	Andre Ware, QB, Houston
	Emmitt Smith, RB, Florida
	Major Harris, QB, West Virginia
	Jeff George, QB, Illinois
	Rodney Hampton, RB, Georgia
	Huey Richardson, LB, Florida
	Rob Moore, WR, Syracuse
	Mark Carter, S, Southern Cal

Technically, the underclassmen who are going into their 4th year are
*NOT* eligible for the draft because their entering class has not
graduated. Look for the lawyers to get involved.

TTom

    re .33:
    
    Someone on ESPN SportsCenter last night predicted that Junior Seau
    would not only declare for the NFL, but would be the #2 overall pick in
    the draft.
    
    How did Barry Sanders become eligible for the draft last year?
                                                     
    
    py

    re .34
    
    	Nobody contested it.  He declared himself eligible and nobody
    	wanted to spend the bucks to take it to court.
    
    	Personally, I don't see how they can stop any kid from declaring
    	themselves eligible.  What stops a kid that doesn't play football
    	from quitting school and getting a job?  College players should
    	be able to choose when their stock is highest and declare them-
    	selves eligible whenever they see fit.  They can finish school
    	in the off season if they want.
    
    Claybone

    
    He just said he was going to the NFL. The NFL knows they don't have a
    legal foot to stand on if they had said no, and a team wanted him. This
    all started with Cris Carter being declared ineligible by the NCAA for 
    signing with an agent. The NFL rule has been that if a player has NCAA
    eligibility, they can't be drafted. When Carter was declared
    ineligible, even though his four years of eligibility was not used up,
    the NFL had no choice but to let him in. The next year Ironhead Heywood
    wanted to come out as a Junior. What he did was to publicly declare
    that he signed with an agent, lose his eligibility, and get drafted in
    the supplementle draft. 
    
                                                   HOOT
    
    
    

    	For the NCAA and the NFL it's the end of a beoootiful friendship.
    Supposedly the worry of a wage scale for rookies is gonna bring
    a whole bevy of underclassmen.
    
    				/Don

    re: a whole bevy of underclassmen
       And I'll bet the Browns draft her to back up Bernice.
                                           Denny  ;^)

Denny --

the Official Chainsaw Thesaurus would have suggested the
acceptable sports term:  Plethora....

HTH,

    	For the NCAA and the NFL it's the end of a beoootiful friendship.
    Supposedly the worry of a wage scale for rookies is gonna bring
    a whole PLETHORA(Tm) of underclassmen.
    
    				/Don

       Thanx /Don, much more manly dontcha think?
                                     Denny

    Andre Ware is stilll saying he will be playing for the University of
    Houston next year.

    There is renewed speculation that Andre Ware WILL enter the draft this
    year.  Although he has stated that he will be back at UH next year, he
    has made recent statements that indicate he could change his mind.  At
    the very least, he is covering for himself no matter what decision he
    makes.  He stated that certain circumstances could make him decide to
    go pro early, but wouldn't elaborate further.

    	...and a possible wage scale for rookies if he waits until his
    senior year.
    
    				/Don

    He's not good enough to get signed for 1.2 mill a year.

                Mel Kiper's NFL Draft Picks
     
 Pos.  Team                 Player

  1.   Atlanta       *McCants, DE, Alabama
  2.   NY Jest       Blair Thomas, RB, Penn State
  3.   NE Patriots   *Andre Ware,QB, Houston
  4.   Tampa Bay     *Emmitt Smith, RB,Florida
  5.   San Diego     *Junior Seau,LB,Southern Cal
  6.   Chicago       Richmond Webb,OT,Texas A&M
  7.   Detriot       Reggie Rembert,WR,W.VA.
  8.   Seattle       Cortez Kennedy,DL,Miami
  9.   Miami         Renaldo Turnbull,LB/DE,W.Va.
 10.   Seattle       Darrell Thompson,RB, Minnesota
 11.   LA Raiders    Percy Snow,ILB,Michigan State
 12.   Cincinnati    James Francis,OLB,baylor
 13.   Kansas City   Rob Moore,WR,Syracuse
 14.   New Orleans   *Marc Spindler,DL,Pitt
 15.   Buffalo       Vince Buck,CN, Central State(OHIO)
 16.   Houston       Chris Singleton,OLB,Arizona
 17.   Pittsburgh    Jeff Aim,DL,Notre Dame
 18.   Green Bay     Mike Fox,DL,W.Va.
 19.   Green Bay     Dennis Brown,DL,Washington
 20.   Atlanta       *Rodney Hampton,RB,Georgia
 21.   Dallas        Anthony Thompson,RB,Indiana
 22.   Philadelphia  Greg McMurtry,WR,Michigan
 23.   LA Rams       Mohammed Elewonibi,OL,Brigham Young
 24.   NY Giants     Harold Green,RB,South Carolina
 25.   San Francisco Tont Bennett,OLB,Mississippi

* = Third Year Juniors

Others:


Reggie Cobb,RB,Tennesse     2nd Round
Barry Foster,RB,Arkansas    4th-6th Round
Marcus Wilson,RB,Va.        5th-8th Round
Jeff George,QB,Illinois     last 1st-2nd
       

    Pats taking Ware?  

    
    yea, right a black qb in new england?  highly unlikely..
    

    
    What are you implying here Dins??
    
    
    
    Steve

    Another linebacker for the Chargers?  I'd love it.  Is this guy from
    USC an inside linebacker?  We have Billy Ray and Leslie O'Neal on the
    ends.
    
    Live from Charger Central....
    
    Glenn

    I can't see the Pats drafting Ware in the first round....and it has
    nothing to do with his being black!!!  His expertise is in an offense
    that Raymond 'the ULTRA Conservative' Berry disdains.  He likes taller
    pocket passers....AND the feeling is that their is NO QB in this year's
    draft warranting such a high pick....including Ware.
    
    
    Nelly

    	Ware still hasn't decided what to do yet, or have I missed
    something?
    				/Don

    Ware is 6'2", maybe 6'3" .....
    
    I find it incredible that such an accomplished WR like Berry could
    be so conservative on offense.....

       It's actually easy to 'splain Dock. His brain started to shrink
    from hanging around 'Sullivans'.
                                   Denny

    Doc, that seems to be just a perception of some of the fans (and
    probably the media).  The Pats had trouble executing the basics,
    nevermind getting into some hi-tech offense.
    
    /Don, you haven't missed anything.  Ware is still saying he is going
    back to UH, but he has left the door open saying that circumstances
    could change that.  For now though, he is still a Cougar.

    Glenn, Junior Seau had a pretty awesome year with USC.  I was on the
    inside a lot, but he also blitzed frequently.  He's very quick, very
    aggressive, and is probably still filling out.  It's only recently that
    I heard that he was coming out, because I think that next year he's a
    junior (in school).  Unfortunately, I heard that Mark Carrier is
    probably leaving the Trojans as well, another underclassman.  The 'SC
    defense looked like it would be dominating next year.  Now, they could
    have a couple holes to fill.
    
    Seau is considered the best linebacker in the draft (potentially) after
    McCants, if it makes you feel any better.
    
    Dan

    Doc,
    
    The Patriots have no CURRENT plans to draft McHale!!
    
    
    Help this hopes,
    
    Nelly

    Lions -
    
    WR would be nice, but I don't think they need one on the first round.

    	If Berry is evaluating the talent in the draft, the Pats have
    no "plan" at all.  There is the potential that they could blow the
    best draft since the 2-14 season.  I hope Berry sticks with the
    team long enough so that he gets a good burn from the hot Jacksonville
    sun.
    
    				/Don

    re: .58
    
    Thanks Dan.  Junior Seau sounds good to me.  The Charger D is pretty
    solid as is, but a strong, aggressive inside linebacker would make it
    better.
    
    Glenn
    

    On Saturday Andre Ware officially announced that he would not return to
    UofH next year but would enter the NFL draft instead.  He had stated in
    the past that he would return for his senior year and a chance to
    repeat as the Heisman trophy winner.  When announcing that he would
    enter the draft he said that many things have changed since he first
    decided to stay in school.  He didn't elaborate, but you have to figure
    that the NFL's relaxation of their draft policy, and the move of Jack
    Pardee to the Oilers had alot to do with it.

    re .63
    
    I would guess that an even bigger factor is that the NFL is talking
    about implementing a salary cap for rookies effective in 1991.
    
    pete 

       Although back when he said he was staying in school he told us
    "I'm giving you my word, and my word is golden!"
                                           Denny

    re the last few:
    
    I had heard that Houston definitely plans to take Ware with their first
    pick (providing he's still available)...can anyone confirm?
    
    
    py

    I can't confirm it, and I can't see it happening. Houston needs
    Ware like they need Glanville .... :-)
    
    Moon has at least 3 years of quality ball left in him. The Oilers
    need an impact LB/DL, or a top-shelf CB .....
    
    I'd be floored if 1) Ware lasted that long, and 2) if the Oilers
    took him.
    
    Doc M

    My guess is that Detroit will beat the Oilers to the punch!!  Ware
    could step right into the Lions offense...and give them depth by moving
    Rodney Peete to the backup spot.  Or, they could draft Ware and trade
    him to the Oilers for Ernest Givins and a draft pick or another player.
    
    Having just started my mock draft the other night, I couldn't find
    another player better suited to be selected by the Lions with their
    first pick.
    
    
    Nelly

    I only had a quick chance to browse the headlines in the sports section
    this weekend, but I do remember seeing the the Oilers were definitely
    interested in Ware.  Actually that may be a good move for both parties. 
    Who is Moon's backup?  Ware would provide a good insurance policy since
    he is used to that type of offense.  The hometown draw wouldn't hurt
    either.  Meanwhile, Ware would have a chance to develop rather than be
    thrown into the fire.  He and Moon are friends (Moon bought a billboard
    in Houston congratulating Ware on winning the Heisman and Ware has
    consulted Moon about football).
    
    In other draft news, QB George out of Illinois is expected to announce
    today that he will enter the draft.

    
    Sounds like something Houston would do... replace one solid QB
    (WHO HAS PROVEN HE CAN NOT WIN THE BIG GAME, OR BEAT CLEVELAND,
    he's 2-9 lifetime) with a stiff...

    yawn .....
    
    
    Sound upset Paula .... perhaps you're afraid that Ware won't be
    around to replace Bernadette Lose-sar ?
    
    Talk about a QB unable to win the big one ... 0-3 vs. Mr Ed ...
    
    Now THAT is really degrading .....
    
    Doc

    
    Doc, how come you're always tired at work?  Day dreaming about
    the Oilers winning an AFC Central Title in 2034?

    Words seem to float around U of I that they expect Jeff George to be
    drafted 3rd overall by the Patroits....

    
    	If they take George with the third pick, they are HIGH on dope.

      RE -1 
    
    They will and they are.

       Great, the Pats will take another Big10 phenom from Illinois! Didn't
    they do that once before? 
                                        Denny

    No Illinois QBs you should say :)

       I'll lump all big10ers together til they show me different. Everett
    may kill the stereotype but he hasn't yet. Neither Have Harbaugh,
    Tomzack, Long, or any others other than Griese and Dawson.
                              Denny

    If like you said Denny that only Greise and Dawson are "different" and
    Everett has a chance then maybe you should lump all the other nine
    schools of the Big Ten together only :)

       Yeah, but who do the Boilers have to offer us this year!!
                                 Denny  ;^)

    
    Yo Denny,
    
    	Not only is he coming from the same school but he wears the
    same number and was quoted as saying that You-Know-Which-Wimp was
    his idol!!!!!
    
    			Mike

    Maybe secretly he is just admiring another #11 who helped recruited him
    to another college in the first place, but just too timid to say it
    open loud in Urbana....who the other #11:  Jim Everett!!
    
    Charles

    
    One of the rumors regarding the Packer draft is that they were going
    to package their two number 1's (theirs and Clevelands) for a high
    pick. This seems suprising since the draft appears deep and those
    choices should get a couple of excellent players. Any word on who they
    could be talking to and what player they are after?
    
    Also a question for you draftniks, besides defensive back what
    positions are the Packers most likely to shore up?

    Outside linebacker, CB and I hear a big running back. 

    Maybe John Hendry can help me with this.....
    
    Where can a person go locally (Massachusetts) to partake of the NFL
    Draft (other than at home watching ESPN)?  In years past, there would
    be a gathering at the Cityside or other Fanuel Hall location.....is
    there anyplace sceduled for this year?
    
    
    Thanks in advance,
    
    Nelly

    Nelly,
    
    The Patriots used to hold "Draft Centrals" in Boston, Springfield
    and Providence.  I know them well, I used to work the phones from
    Foxboro on Draft Day calling them up.  Sadly, between the move of
    the Draft to Sunday and the live coverage on ESPN, the need for
    the Draft Centrals became less and the team discontinued them.
    
    Sorry,
    
    John

    According to Joel Buchsbaum's Scout's Notebook '90, here's his "Mock
    Draft" for the first round:
    
    1.  Dallas - no pick - picked Steve Walsh in Supp Draft
    2.  Atlanta - LB Keith McCants, Alabama (Jr)
    3.  NY Jets - RB Blair Thomas, Penn State
    4.  Phoenix - no pick - picked Timm Rosenbach in Supp Draft
    5.  New Eng - QB Jeff George, Illinois (Jr)
    6.  TB - RB Emmitt Smith, Florida (Jr)
    7.  San Diego - LB Junior Seau, Southern Cal (Jr)
    8.  Chicago - DT Cortez Kennedy, Miami of Fla.
    9.  Detroit - OLB James Francis, Baylor
    10. Seattle - RB Darrell Thompson, Minnesota
    11. Miami - OT Richmond Webb, Texas A&M
    12. Seattle - DE Reynaldo Turnbull, West Virginia
    13. LA Raiders - LB Percy Snow, Michigan State
    14. Cincinnati - RB Rodney Hampton, Georgia (Jr)
    15. Kansas City - RB Harold Green, South Carolina
    16. New Orleans - DT Marc Spindler, Pittsburgh (Jr)
    17. Houston - LB Lamar Lathon, Houston (Jr)
    18. Buffalo - DL Ray Agnew, NC State
    19. Pittsburgh - WR Rob Moore, Syracuse (Jr)
    20. Green Bay - LB Chris Singleton, Arizona
    21. Green Bay - CB J.D. Williams, Fresno State
    22. Atlanta - RB Carwell Gardner, Louisville
    23. Dallas- OLB Aaron Wallace, Texas A&M
    24. Philadelphia - WR Reggie Rembert, West Va
    25. LA Rams - C-OG Bern Brostek, Washington
    26. NY Giants - QB Scott Mitchell, Utah (Jr)
    27. Denver -no pick - picked Bobby Humphrey in Supp Draft
    28. San Francisco - DB Pat Terrell, Notre Dame
    
    Live from Charger Central....
    
    Glenn

	So that's only 25 picks.

	I thought the draft went 28 picks per round, no matter how many teams
don't happen to have a first round pick?????

Mike JN

    A few quick comments... I'd be surprised to see Detroit
    pass up Reggie Rembert or Rob Moore as a WR.  They have excellent
    young LB's already. I doubt that the Pats will take George.
    The 49ers don't need DB's anymore and will probably take an OL.
    Rembert should go in the first round.
    
    Jeff

    There are 28 slots in the first round, 3 of them have been forfeited
    by teams using picks in the Supplemental Draft.  Dallas still
    technically has the first pick in the draft but has already used
    it for Walsh.
    
    John

    Word here in Upstate NY is that Buffalo will take a WR with their
    1st pick, Rob Moore would be a local fave...
    			Raider_Rich
    BTW, I dont think Percy Snow will be around when the Raiders pick
    

Last I heard, Rob Moore had not declared for this year's draft. He looks
like he's going to wait for the supplemental draft.

TTom

    re: back acouple
    
    I'd like to see Detroit pick up some receivers with GOOD HANDS.
    From what I saw last year (which wasn't much) defenses where no
    respecting the Lions passing threat nearly enough but looking
    more for the run.
    
    Cowboy
     

    Re: Percy Snow.  
    
    He graded out at a 6.4 while Keith McCants (7.9),
    Junior Seau (7.8), James Francis (6.6) and Chris Singleton (6.5) all
    graded out higher than Snow.  FYI.
    
    
    Glenn

    I wish to reinforce the statement made two or three replies back:
    
    Rob Moore is NOT eligible in the regular NFL draft.  He chose not to
    declare himself eligible.  He is expected to graduate early, thus
    making it possible for him to be (perhaps) the only player in a
    supplemental draft.
    
    Reggie Rembert and Greg McMurtry appear to be the top two receivers
    available in the 'regular' draft.
    
    
    Nelly
    
    P.S.  I'm gonna compare my mock draft to Buchsbaum's......make a few
    minor changes (maybe) and enter my SWAG draft in a day or two.  Last
    year I was disappointed at my prognostications....although it's hard to
    decide what makes for a successful mock draft.....number of players
    going to the right teams with the right picks?......number of players
    predicted to go in the first round actually going in the first
    round?....number of top ten picks chosen in the top ten?
    
    I think I had about 20-22 players picked in last year's first round
    actually going in the first....but very few to the right teams.
    
    
    

    Re: Percy Snow.....
    
    Did he get injured?  I've heard a lot of talk that he's hurt, thus
    reducing his draft value.  Can anyone confirm?
    
    
    Nelly

I thought the supplemental draft was no more, seeing that juniors are
eligible to declare for the regular draft.

Mike

    It was the supplemental draft last year, and teams involved in that
    last year will lose their picks this year.  But yes, the supplemental
    draft will be gone this year I think I read.

    According to Joel Buchsbaum's Scout's Notebook '90, here's his "Mock
    Draft" for the first round:
    
    1.  Dallas - no pick - picked Steve Walsh in Supp Draft
>>> 2.  Atlanta - LB Keith McCants, Alabama (Jr) (Jeff George)
>>> 3.  NY Jets - RB Blair Thomas, Penn State  (EARL ANTHONY PRO BOWLER)
    4.  Phoenix - no pick - picked Timm Rosenbach in Supp Draft
>>> 5.  New Eng - QB Jeff George, Illinois (Jr)(Keith McAnts)
>>> 6.  TB - RB Emmitt Smith, Florida (Jr)(Blair Thomas)
    7.  San Diego - LB Junior Seau, Southern Cal (Jr)
    8.  Chicago - DT Cortez Kennedy, Miami of Fla.
    9.  Detroit - OLB James Francis, Baylor
    10. Seattle - RB Darrell Thompson, Minnesota
    11. Miami - OT Richmond Webb, Texas A&M
    12. Seattle - DE Reynaldo Turnbull, West Virginia
    13. LA Raiders - LB Percy Snow, Michigan State
    14. Cincinnati - RB Rodney Hampton, Georgia (Jr)
    15. Kansas City - RB Harold Green, South Carolina
    16. New Orleans - DT Marc Spindler, Pittsburgh (Jr)
    17. Houston - LB Lamar Lathon, Houston (Jr)
    18. Buffalo - DL Ray Agnew, NC State
    19. Pittsburgh - WR Rob Moore, Syracuse (Jr)
    20. Green Bay - LB Chris Singleton, Arizona
    21. Green Bay - CB J.D. Williams, Fresno State
    22. Atlanta - RB Carwell Gardner, Louisville
    23. Dallas- OLB Aaron Wallace, Texas A&M
    24. Philadelphia - WR Reggie Rembert, West Va
    25. LA Rams - C-OG Bern Brostek, Washington
    26. NY Giants - QB Scott Mitchell, Utah (Jr)
    27. Denver -no pick - picked Bobby Humphrey in Supp Draft
    28. San Francisco - DB Pat Terrell, Notre Dame
    
    Live from Charger Central....
    
    Glenn

    Re: the supplemental draft.....
    
    The supplemental draft still lives!!!  The criteria for having it has
    changed.  About the only way a player can 'qualify' for it is by NOT
    leaving school early (ie..as a sophomre, junior, etc.) but by
    GRADUATING early.  Moore is slated to graduate in May (I believe) and
    he wanted to dedicate his time to his studies...not allowing for him to
    attend the Scouting combine and other NFL camps.  He is NOT leaving
    school early....but will be out of college AFTER the draft.  Thus, the
    NFL is already considering a supplemental draft where Moore will be the
    ONLY player eligible.
    
    I'm not making this up....it has been documented in Pro Football
    Weekly, as well as the Sporting News.
    
    
    Nelly

    I can't believe the Pats would pick another QB from the Illini!

       How come Mike? You've been following the Pats long enough that you
    should know better than to make a comment like that!
                                       Denny ;^)

    Mike,
    
    I'm having trouble with your logic.....
    
    I'm not a football historian, so giving specific names is impossible
    for me to provide, BUT.......
    
    I'd bet the ranch that somewhere in Notre Dame's storied past they had
    a QB who was highly rated yet turned out to be as soft as a puppy full
    of sneaker shit(tm)....yet that didn't make Joe Montana a bad selection
    in the draft.
    
    I'd bet my wife's mother (alright....that's not exactly a highly valued
    commodity!!)  that Pitt had some highly acclaimed QB that went on to
    sip BIGTIME in the pros.....yet that did not make Dan Marino a poor
    pick by the Dolphins!!
    
    So, why is it that just because Eason sucked pond water, George has no
    chance of being a quality NFL QB?
    
    Please 'splain
    
    
    Nelly

    Notre Dame QB :== John Huarte
    Pttsburgh  QB :== Matt Cavanaugh
    
    John

    Ok Nelly, I'll try. Say that your an incomptetent slof(tm).
    That means that you infected everything and everyone you come in
    contact with. So, ergo, the school you went to, your wife, kids,
    your car, the Digital office you work at all sip snail slime.
    See? Wasnt too hard to follow if your a Pats fan 8^
    			HTH, Rich
    

       Maybe Mike should've said :Why take another Big 10 qb, not just 
    Illinois".
                                                   Denny

    
    	Why all the talk about Jeff George?  What has he done?
    	His numbers are pretty good, but far from outstanding.
    	I saw him during a bowl game and I was not impressed.
    	Peter Tom Willis, on the other hand, did show me a lot.
    	He'd be a good 2dp for the Pats.  In a draft as good this
    	it would be a shame to gamble and lose on the 3rd pick
    	overall because there are going to be a lot of teams who will be
    	helped big time by this draft.  If we miss the boat here we
    	are going to be up the.... i'll stop
    
    	Jeff

>    He graded out at a 6.4 while Keith McCants (7.9),
>    Junior Seau (7.8), James Francis (6.6) and Chris Singleton (6.5) all
>    graded out higher than Snow.  FYI.
    
    Boy, these guys am smart!
    
    	--dan'l

    Nelly

      The problem with Percy Snow is he just isn't the great athlete that
      some had him pegged to be. In a pair of gym shorts and t-shirt doing
      drills hes not looking as good as the other ILB in the draft. Put 
      him on the football field and he's a force. In short he's a football 
      player. Somebody is going to get him cheap late 1st round might even
      might slip to the early 2nd round.

      The other guy in the draft that is falling fast is Bernard Clark,
      ILB from Miami. He's going to be a steal as a 6-7 round selection.
      Same thing as Snow, hes been titled a better football player than
      athlete. Anybody remember Chris Spielman(sp) now with Detroit.

      Nelly, I'm looking forward to your mock draft. If Anthony Thompson
      RB Indiana doesn't go in the 1st round, where do you think he will
      go. He's another one everybody seems to have forgotten about.

    Chuck

    Well, Jeff George is not really *from* *Illinois*, they just faked him
    a in-state resident status since he transferred intra-conference and
    must pay his own way, he's a down-home Hoosier.  Well, of course, in
    this sense even Eason is just a California, isn't he?
    
    Charles

Food for thought on Jeff George:

	The image I have of him is based on a picture in Sports Illustrated
	from his one year at Purdue.   Apparently, he hurt his ankle during
	a game late in the season, so they had to take him off on the golf
	cart to the lockerroom.

	The picture in SI showed George riding on the back of the cart
	with his mother, who came down on the field to make sure he
	was okay.    Whether she brought him some cookies and milk is
	unclear.
                
	Why does that make me think of Tony Eason?  

	Jeff George on the Patriots would be the biggest draft mistake
	they have ever made.   It would make Reggie Dupard's selection
	worthy of a Nobel Prize.

	With the third pick in the draft, with all the juniors coming
	out, the pick MUST BE an All-Pro player within two years to be
	considered successful in my book.

	I wish there was a no-doubt John Hannah or Anthony Munoz out
	there.  A ten year All-pro lineman...  since there isn't, I
	say go with an impact player on defense in round one and a
	lineman in round 2.  

    No, Jeff George has changed a lot since his Purdue days.  He wears a
    mustache now.  What a *man*.

    Doesn't matter who the Pats pick, they'll sip pond scum when they get
    to Foxboro.
    
    Are they cursed to mediocrity or what?

      >Anybody remember Chris Spielman(sp) now with Detroit.

      He played great football for Ohio St. I watched him play for 4 years
      and there was no one better!!!! Too bad he ended up with rag of a team!



Monty

    >   >Anybody remember Chris Spielman(sp) now with Detroit.

    >   He played great football for Ohio St. I watched him play for 4 years
    >   and there was no one better!!!! Too bad he ended up with rag of a team!
    
    Hey Monty, are you saying Ohio St is the rag team?  Surely, you don't
    mean Detroit.  The last half or third of their season was as good as
    anyone you could name.  I expect to see them giving alot of teams fits
    next season.
    
    Cowboy
    

    My own opinion on Percy Snow.
    
    
    I read in a previous note how 3 or 4? other linebackers were rated
    ahead of Snow.  I remember a wide receiver a couple years back who
    had ability but was the 3rd or 4th(hmmm coincedence?) rated receiver.
    He did not play for a big time school and turned out to be a 
    perinial ALL-PRO.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Jerry Rice of the San Francisco Forty Niners!!!!!!
    
    
    
    Snow will not let whatever team that drafts him(hopefully CHICAGO)
    down.

    
    Cowboy,
    Detroit was playing pretty good ball at the end of last season, but to
    say they were playing as well as anyone is really reaching.

    Ending the season with a 5-game winning streak is impressive,
    especially when play-offs weren't in the picture.  I wasn't
    saying that they could beat the 49ers, I was just saying that
    Detroit was putting it together as well as anyone.
    
    Cowboy
    

    The Redskins ended with a six game winning streak.
    
                              Steve J.

    GO SKINS!!!!!!!!!

    
    
    Doug Williams must have been riding pine at the time?  Was he?

    Atlanta has announced it will pick Jeff George with the #1 pick
    of the Draft.
    
    Mike
    

>    Atlanta has announced it will pick Jeff George with the #1 pick
>   of the Draft.
       There IS a god!!
                                            Denny

If they do, is there any word about dealing Chris Miller?

Mike

    No word on dealing Miller, Mike.  In todays Constitution Chris seemed
    to be of the opinion that the Falcons might trade George and that he
    wasn't worried about possible job insecurity.  
    
    Congrats to the Falcons for NOT drafting McCants, who it's now reported
    may have a bum knee to go along with his other troubles.  His draft
    standing his slipping quicker than a California mudslide.  Usually the 
    Falcons wait until *after* the draft to learn all the bad news on the 
    guy they took.  ;^(
    
    
    - ACC Chris

    
    From what I read, George was VERY impressive at the combine in Indy.
    
    What's supposedly wrong with McCants? The only thing I heard was that
    Atlanta, including their slimey coach, had questions to McCants' moral
    character to make obscene amounts of money to beat the hell out of
    people. That one always cracks me up. It reminds me of two things, 1)
    an Arlo Guthrie song and 2) that Dan Reeves isn't the only hypocrite
    coach in the league.
    
                                                   HOOT
    

    .126
    
    These are the negatives I've heard floating around about McCants-
    
    	-  He could only bench press 225 nine times  
    
    	-  He has a bum knee
    
        -  Possible headcase
    
    Jeff

    Hoot,
    
    McCants held a workout the other day for NFL teams to come check him
    out in things like how fast he runs, how much he lifts, etc (reminds me
    of a horse sale or slave auction :^( ).  NFL folks walked away less
    than impressed.  His 40 times were average, his lifting ability was
    average, and he's not as big as Alabama was listing him.  (Only 6-3,
    not 6-5.)  Top it all off with his reputation as being a head case and
    a recent report that his knee is a little "loose" and you get the
    picture.
    
    Based on past history the last thing the Falcons need is another head
    case underachiever.  (Perhaps he'll still be available when the Raiders
    pick though!  ;^)  )
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    

    On the bench press thing...
       The 'average' LB presses that weight 18 times, McCants could only 
    do 9.
    
                                        Denny

    re:  McCants
    
    	For a little comparison, McCants was able to do 9 presses
    of 225 pounds which is supposed to be below NFL Linebacker stds.
    They then tested Junior Seau and he benched 225 an amazing 26
    times.  Word has it that Seau has moved ahead of McCants as the
    best rated linebacker.
    
    Newc

    Sheesh, even I cain bench 225 8 or 9 times.
    
    Mark.
    
    

	Now I could be wrong, but last time I watched an NFL game, when
the quarterback was being chased by the outside linebacker, they didn't
stop the game, set up a bench, put 225 lbs on the bar and tell the chaser,
"let's see how many times you can bench this sucker".  And for what its
worth, when the Patriots brought John Hannah into their spring camp in his
rookie year, he weighed 305 pounds and some of the coaches said he was lazy.


				/Don

    Mark "saturday night" Lefebvre you are such a stud!  Perhaps the
    Falcons will draft you firsted!
    
    Oh, and Mark - how bout them Broons!  ;-)  Hehahehahawwww
    
    
    JD

    JD, it's not nice to talk with your mouth full.
    
    Mark.

    No doubt this McCants cat is capable of a whole lot better than he
    showed at his pre-auction "mini-camp".  The question is why's he in
    such lousy shape (Maybe he was studying so much he didn't have time to
    hit the weight room?  Heh heh!  :^( ) and, given his head case rep, is
    he worth gambling on with the #1 pick.  
    
    All things considered I think the Falcons are making the wise decision
    (for once) by passing on him.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
    

    I've said before and I'll say again:  NFL scouts and personnel
    departments fall victim to paralysis by analysis.  There's so much
    information available and so many times they can check someone out
    that sooner or later any scout is bound to find something wrong
    with a player, and then some small negatives are bound to overwhelm
    a lot of positives.  Perfectly good football players get overlooked
    because they don't fit the mold and that's why there are free agents
    and late round draft choices who make it every year.
    
    I'm not saying that the negatives about McCants aren't legitimate,
    but I do take a lot of these reports with several grains of salt.
    For one thing, the teams in the league may be trying to cover up
    their real intentions (Dick Steinberg has often said that that's
    one of the most useful things about the Buchsbaums and Kipers of
    the world, it gives them something to use as a smoke screen in
    pre-draft press conferences) and for another thing, if they can
    bad-mouth a prospect enough, they can use it against the prospect
    when it come contract negotiation time.
    
    John
                                                       

	It seems to me that the Falcons should trade down.  They
	have a good linebacking corp, and Miller is a good young
	quarterback.  The McCants bad mouthing might be a smoke
	screen to let the Falcons deal the first pick without
	embarrassment.

	Mike

    
    maybe he's doggin it to end up with a better team instead of doing
    it the Elway way....
    
    ;^)
    
    mike

    Another thing about these pre-draft workouts:
    
    If a player happens to have a bad day and runs a slower than normal
    40 yard dash time, for example, no matter how well he may do in
    subsequent workouts, he'll get stuck with that lousy time.  A lot
    of players figure it isn't worth the risk.
    
    John

    Hey Slasher, how's your Bench Press Workout on the 50 Yard Line video
    coming along?
    
    H�wk

    re . Combines 
    
    Chris, you're right - it does sound like a animal show or auction.
    And John's "paralysis by analysis" hits it on the head as well.
    
    I get the distinct impression that Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Richard
    Dent, Steve Largent, Everson Walls, Sam Mills and many others would
    have never survived a scouting combine.
    
    What ever happened to the most fundamental question :
    
    Can [insert player] PLAY the game of football ?
    
    DrM

    Stan White said it well once and I wish I could remember the exact
    quote:
    
    First, they get the great athletes.  Then, they get the great runners.
    Then, the basketball players.  Then, the weightlifters.  Then, the
    guys who look good.  And then when they've gone through all of those
    prospects, then they look in the mud to find the real football players.
    
    For those of you who don't know, Stan White was a 17th round draft
    choice out of Ohio State who went on to have a distinguished career
    with the Colts and Lions.  He is now an attorney.
    
    John

	I wonder if one of the considerations is money (Stupid kid! Of COURSE
it's money!)

   Okay, Okay. SORRY! I mean... more of a consideration than it used to be.

	Any more, the first pick is going to want what? 6 million? Plus a
signing bonus?

	So for that amount of money, do you take a chance on `a head case'? On
somebody who tries out at about half the strength of the `avg' LB? On somebody
whose not as big, as speedy, or as healthy (loose knees?) as originally
reported? If I was signing checks, you sure as hell wouldn't. If Atlanta was
smart, they could probably trade their first for a 2nd and a 3rd this year AND
next year. Maybe even more. I expect eventually, more and more teams are going
to start realizing that paying megabucks for an unproven College Kid is
slightly idiotic. Even a `Superstar' isn't worth as much as people think. Look
at Herschel Walker, Eric Dickerson. Bosworth and Mandaritch (sp) are perfectly
good examples of what you often get with a highly paid, highly touted, untried
College Kid. To be worth the money, they'd have to be the franchise.... and 
the NFL is finally beginning to realize that NO one person is the franchise.

Mike JN

    Mike, I think its a little premature to put Mandarich in that
    class, but otherwise I agree. How much time do you spend on a
    guy like Bozoworth? Now he may retire because of arthritic shoulders.
    Whats a poor GM to do? Mandarich didnt have the benefit from training
    camp, and I think if he gets some work during this years camp he can
    be a force....IMO.
    			Raider_Rich
    

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	INDIANAPOLIS (UPI) -- Quarterbacks Jeff George and Andre Ware are
trying to bring down linebacker Keith McCants in a reversal of on-field
roles to determine the top choice in this year's NFL draft.
	George, Ware and McCants were among about 25 underclassmen who
attended a special private NFL scouting combine Friday and Saturday at
the Indianapolis Colts training complex.
	Most players decided not to workout Saturday because of cold
weather and the fact most teams have watched players run drills in
private sessions. The regular combine conducted in February is at the
Hoosier Dome, but the stadium could was being used for Farm Aid IV.
	McCants worked out last Thursday before scouts from every NFL team.
George worked out for 15 teams last Thursday, seven others last week and
plans another session next Thursday at the University of Illinois.
	``I'm happy with my performances in those workouts,'' George said.
``They know what I can do. If anybody else wants to see what I can do,
they can come watch me next Thursday.''
	George set national prep passing marks at Warren Central High
School in Indianapolis, then went to nearby Purdue. After struggling
through his freshman season and watching coach Leon Burtnett be fired,
George announced he would transfer to Miami (Fla.).
	George again changed his mind and wound up playing for Illinois the
past two seasons before deciding the give up his final year of college
eligibility for a chance to be taken in the NFL draft on April 22.
	``I've heard I'll go anywhere from No. 1 to No. 10 or lower,''
George said. ``I don't see myself as No. 1. I want to do my best for the
scouts and let them decide where I should be drafted. I have no
preference where I go. I just want to play.''
	George ate breakfast Saturday with Atlanta coach Jerry Glanville,
whose team owns the draft's No. 1 pick. He also enjoyed a Friday night
dinner with New England officials, who have the No. 3 pick but are very
interested in George and fearful he might be gone by their current
selection. The Falcons had been expected to take McCants, but George and
Ware are also being considered.
	Another player whose stock has risen among NFL personnel directors
in Penn State running back Blair Thomas. He has made a strong impression
on Dick Steinberg, the New York Jets football operations director.
	``He was productive over a long period of time,'' Steinberg said.
``He finished last season extremely strong. He is a very fine player. We
have to figure out who is above him and who is below him. I don't know
if anybody is above him.''

    

    Here's the current edition of my mock draft...subject to change as soon
    as Jerry Glanville stops playing games with my mind!!!  My selections
    are in no way an indictment of players either low on the list or not on
    the list at all!!!  As a courtesy, you may want to try to pick the
    order of selection for the first 25 picks BEFORE tearing me apart!!
    It's hard as hell to feel comfortable with some of the guys I have
    still available late in the first round (ie. the Thompsons, Percy
    Snow..)....but rather than put two or three possibilities for every
    team...I just wung it!!!
    
    
    Nelly
    
    
    
    TEAM	    PLAYER		POS	COLLEGE		COMMENTS
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 1. Atlanta	Jeff George		QB	Illinois	Should I trust
								Glanville?

 2. NY Jets	Blair Thomas		RB	Penn State	Tough choice...
								hard to pass up
								top quality RB

 3. New England Junior Seau		OLB	USC		What to do?
								McCants? Ware?
								Pats love 
								Seau's work
								ethic

 4. Tampa Bay	Keith McCants		LB	Alabama		How far can he
								realistically
								drop? Look for
								Bucs to acquire
								Gary Anderson

 5. San Diego	Emmitt Smith		RB	Florida		Even with 
								Harmon and
								Sanders, Smith
								too good to 
								pass up (may
								take Webb)

 6. Chicago	Cortez Kennedy		DT	Miami (Fla)	Aging DL needs
								a boost

 7. Detroit	Andre Ware		QB	Houston		How can a run 
								'n shoot team
								pass up Ware?

 8. Seattle	Richmond Webb		OT	Texas A&M	Happy to see
								Webb still
								on the board

 9. Miami	Renaldo Turnbull	LB	West Virginia	Still need
								defensive help

10. Seattle	Harold Green		RB	South Carolina	To fill Curt
								Warner's spot

11. LA Raiders	Ron Cox			LB	Fresno State	LBer corp needs
								new blood

12. Cincinnati	James Francis		LB	Baylor		Makes up for
								loss of Reggie
								Williams

13. Kansas City	Reggie Rembert		WR	West Virginia	Need a QB....
								but Rembert's 
								too good to
								pass up

14. New Orleans	Mohammed Elewonibi	OG	BYU		Second-best OL
								in the draft

15. Houston	Chris Singleton		LB	Arizona		Offense is fine
								D needs 
								strengthening

16. Buffalo	James D. Williams	DB	Fresno State	Stock has risen
								recently..fills
								a need

17. Pittsburgh	Greg McMurtry		WR	Michigan	Desperate for 
								WR help..may
								be taking
								McMurtry too
								early!!

18. Green Bay	Jeff Alm		DE	Notre Dame	Need DL help

19. Green Bay	Darrell Thompson	RB	Minnesota	Power runner
								to complement
								passing game

20. Atlanta	Anthony Thompson	RB	Indiana		Amazed to see
								him still on 
								board...too
								good to bypass

21. Dallas	Percy Snow		ILB	Michigan State	stock dropped,
								still too good
								to let slip any
								further

22.Philadelphia Lamar Lathon		LB	Houston		DL all set, LB
								needs upgrade

23. LA Rams	Ray Agnew		DL	NC State	Need all the DL
								they can get

24. NY Giants	Mark Spindler		DL	Pitt		...or maybe
								RB Rodney
								Hampton

25. San Fran	Aaron Wallace		OLB	Texas A&M	Never enough
								LB's...good
								speed


Noteworthy ommissions:
---------------------

Oliver Barnett		DL	Kentucky

Mark Carrier		DB	USC

Rodney Hampton		RB	Georgia

Cary Conklin		QB	????

Scott Mitchell		QB	Utah

Peter Tom Willis	QB	Florida St.

Rob Moore		WR	Syracuse (not eligible in regular draft)

Vince Buck		DB	Central St. (?)

    Nelly,

        I'm not tearing into you. I know you enter a mock draft contest
    so I figured I pass along to you some Dallas draft scoop. Jimmy Johnson
    has stated that there 1st three picks (numbers 21,26,47 overall) must 
    start or see a lot of playing time this coming season. With the season
    Eugine Lockhart had last year I don't think too many rookies are going
    to take away his playing time. Besides Dallas has to many other needs.
    With that in mind Percy Snow is not a good pick for them. They want a 
    OLB in the 1st round and they are VERY high on Aaron Wallace. JJ likes 
    his size and speed. Wallace is really moving up the draft charts, but
    he should be around by the time Dallas picks. Now if Anthony Thomas would 
    only slip to the 26 overall pick.


    chuck

    Chuck,
    
    Thanks for the input.....my final revision is needed by the end of next
    week......I'm thankful for any quality info that I can get my hands on.
    
    
    Nelly

    
    
    Nelly
    
    I agree with the draft depends on what Glanville decides to do. I
    think he may be throwing up a smoke screen to fool everybody. And who
    can really tell what the Jets will do with thier pick?? I enjoy the
    draft because it is interesting to see what everyone thinks everyone
    else should do and take. I will pass along what I think will be the
    first 11 or so picks just to stir things up a little.
    
    Sasquatch
    
    
    Atlanta	Jeff George		QB	What will Glanville do?
    
    NY Jets	Blair Thomas		RB	Another draft day mystery
    
    New England	Andre Ware		QB	They want a QB so bad, they
    						are willing to take the
    						risk
    
    Tampa Bay	Emmitt Smith		RB	Someone to take the pre-
    						sure off of Testaverdi
    
    San Diego	Junior Seau		OLB	Delighted he is availble
    
    Possible run on defensive players!!
    
    Chicago	Keith McCants		LB	Believes he is the best LB
    						in draft
    
    Detroit	Cortez Kennedy		DL	Depth for DL needed
    
    Seattle	Oliver Barnett		DL	1st round suprise pick(1st)
    
    Miami	Jeff Alm		DE	Always seem to take a reach
    
    Seattle	Renaldo Turnbull	LB	Replace retired Bozworth?
    
    La Raiders	Richmond Webb		OT	Need OL help BAD!!
    
    Note: Jets may even reach and take Harold Green, as this would follow
          thier draft day antics.
    
    

    Re: .150,
    
    Having sorted thru a dozen or so of my 'preliminary' drafts to
    ultimately decide on the one I posted earlier, I can honestly say that
    every one of your picks has as good a chance of being correct as any of
    mine.  There are so many players of similar quality in this year's
    draft that it is bound to be the most interesting in a long time.
    
    I toyed with Barnett going to the Rams before I opted to put Ray Agnew
    in that spot.  I still feel uncomfortable about having Darrell and
    Anthony Thompson going 19th and 20th respectively.  Further, after
    getting Chuck's input re: Dallas and Aaron Wallace, I'm stuck with
    Percy Snow being available to the 49ers with the last pick in the first
    round!!!!  Why do I feel so uncomfortable with my mock draft?
    
    
    Nelly

    
    RE: .150
    
    No way the RAIDERS will take an O-lineman in the first round. I don't
    know why you think they are looking for O-linemen, but htat is not
    true. Last year's top pick, 1st pick in the 2nd round, Steve Wisnewski, 
    has been called a future perennial All-Pro from several ports 'o call.
    They just picked up All-Pro Max Montoya from Plan B. Don Mosebar and
    Bruce Wilkerson are solid performers. LT is the only question mark
    where ? (mental block, I can't think of his name) has been criticized
    but Art Shell (who is arguably the best to ever play the position) has
    confidence in him. The RAIDERS will go for a LB or maybe a RB in the
    1st round.
    
                                                   HOOT
    

    RE: Blair Thomas
    
    Papa Joe says he's the best running back he's ever coached.  That's
    pretty good considering Paterno coached Lydell Mitchel, Franco Harris,
    Curt Warner, DJ Dozier, etc.  I don't think there's a better running
    back than Thomas out there.
    
    RE: the draft
    
    From what I hear out of Pittsburgh, the Steelers will take Spindler if
    he's still available.  Can anyone confirm this?  The kid has enourmous
    all-pro potential.
    
    	--dan'l

    
According to the Sunday, Rocky Mountain News, here are MOCK 1st round 
drafts from 4 analysts.  They are Mel Kiper of Draft Report, Tom Hepler 
of OURLAD'S Guide to the NFL Draft, Joel Buchsbaum from Scout's Notebook 
and John Riegel, of Riegel's Ratings:

Here they are:
		    Kiper	Hepler	  Joel		Riegel
    
1.  Dallas -                    no pick
2.  Atlanta - 	    McCants	McCants	  McCants	McCants
3.  NY Jets - 	    Thomas	Thomas	  Thomas	Thomas
4.  Phoenix - 			no pick
5.  New Eng - 	    George 	George	  George	Seau
6.  TB - 	    Smith	Smith	  Smith		Smith
7.  San Diego -     Webb	Seau	  Seau		Webb	
8.  Chicago - 	    Seau	Kennedy	  Kennedy	Kennedy	
9.  Detroit - 	    Williams	Ware	  Francis	Ware
10. Seattle - 	    Kennedy	Webb	  Thompson	Turnball
11. Miami - 	    Turnbull	Francis	  Webb		Francis
12. Seattle - 	    Green	Hampton	  Turnbull	Williams
13. Raiders -	    Lathon	Singleton Snow		Snow
14. Cincinnati -    Francis	Lathon	  Hampton	Cox
15. Kansas City -   Ware	Thompson  Green		Rembert
16. New Orleans -   Spindler	Williams  Spindler	Mitchell
17. Houston - 	    Fox		Agnew	  Lathon	Singleton
18. Buffalo - 	    Rembert	Spindler  Agnew		Buck
19. Pittsburgh -    Singleton	Snow	  Moore		Spindler
20. Green Bay -     Barnett	Turnbull  Singleton	Alm
21. Green Bay -     Buck	Brostek	  Williams	McMurtry
22. Atlanta - 	    Hampton	Thompson  Gardner	Hampton
23. Dallas- 	    Thompson	Green	  Wallace	Elewonibi
24. Philadelphia -  McMurtry	Rembert	  Rembert	Wright
25. LA Rams - 	    Elewonibi	Barnett   Brostek	Carrier
26. NY Giants -     Thompson	Brown	  Mitchell	Gray
27. Denver 			-no pick 
28. San Francisco - Smith	Wooden	  Terrell	Terrell
    
    Live from Charger Central....
    
    Glenn

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	NEW YORK (UPI) -- Thumbnail sketches of the leading quarterbacks
eligible for the April 22-23 NFL draft (name, school, height, weight and
40-yard dash time listed):
	Jeff George, 6-4, 210. Illinois, 4.99. Classic drop-back passer.
Strong arm and quick release. Mobility and poise under pressure
questioned. Atlanta leaning toward taking him No. 3, although some are
wary because he lost experience by skipping senior year.
	Andre Ware, Houston, 6-2, 205, 4.63. Heisman Trophy winner coming
out after junior season, when he passed for 4,699 yards and 46 TDs. Will
go in first round. Can move out of pocket. Ideal run-and-shoot
quarterback. Question if he can be productive as drop-back passer. Might
not have to if Detroit or Houston draft him.
	Scott Mitchell, Utah, 6-5, 230, 4.91. Tall, southpaw with a strong
arm and quick release. Reminds many of Boomer Esiason. Good touch
passer, but a bit inconsistent. Comes out of passing offense. Another
junior who could be a first rounder.
	John Friesz, Idaho, 6-4, 210. 5.13. Productive drop-back passer in
college, where he played home games in a dome. Works hard, has good arm
and touch. Not a scrambler, and did not face top college competition.
Can go from anywhere between late first round and early third.
	Cary Conklin, Washington, 6-4, 220, 4.94. Helped himself with good
Hula Bowl. Has ideal QB size, good arm and plays hurt. Showed great
improvement as a senior, but still a bit inconsistent. Borderline
first-rounder.
	Peter Tom Willis, 6-2 1/2, 190, 4.95. Was not a starter until senior
year. Showed smarts and poise handling pro-style offense. His stock fell
some when he appeared fatigued in postseason and was not impressive at
scouting combine.
	Tommy Hodson, Louisiana State, 6-2, 200, 4.92. Four-year starter,
finished strong in 1989 after an off-year as junior. Streak passer who
appears unable to carry a team but could prosper with good supporting
cast.
	Mike Buck, Maine, 6-2, 225, 4.85. Built like a LB, and stands up to
the pass rush. Good leader with a strong arm, but has had knee surgery
and played light college competition. Impressive East-West Shrine game
helped.
	Kirk Baumgartner, Wisconsin-Stevens Point, 603, 200, 5.16.
Displayed an NFL arm while playing against Div. III competition. Looked
shaky Senior Bowl week but played well in the game. Probably won't go
before middle rounds and needs a couple of seasons to develop.
	Todd Ellis, South Carolina, 6-1, 205, 4.97. Was finally living up
to his promise when he suffered season-ending knee injury in eighth game
last season. Never mobile to begin with. A risky pick who could hit it
big or bust.
	Frank Baur, Lafayette, 6-3, 220, 4.96. Played two impressive
seasons in Div. I-AA, but suffered tendinitis in throwing elbow that
seemed to affect his throwing in Hula Bowl and Blue-Gray game. Must cut
down his high-risk passes.
	Major Harris, West Virginia, 6-0, 220, 4.55. Stock fell during
junior season last year. Can make big plays, but lacks discipline and is
short. Not as good from the pocket as on the run. Could be a
middle-round pick in this deep QB field. Might go to CFL, where he would
likely star.
	Others to watch: Troy Taylor, California; Neil O'Donnell, Maryland;
Tony Rice, Notre Dame; Reggie Slack, Auburn; Todd Hammel, Stephen F.
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	Blair Thomas, Penn State. 5-10 1/2, 194, 4.45. Best of a loaded field
of RBs, should go among top four picks. Capped comeback senior year with
outstanding Holiday Bowl against BYU. Can catch and make defenders miss.
Two drawbacks are size and major knee construction before his senior
year, but he held up well as a senior and could be a franchise back.
	Emmitt Smith, Florida, 5-9, 200, 4.54. Great strength, balance and
quickness. Consistent performer although lacking ideal RB's size and
speed. Good receiver and durable. First rounder, could be Tampa Bay's
No. 4. pick if the Buccaneers don't trade for a RB.
	Darrell Thompson, Minnesota, 6-1, 220, 4.42. Had best season in
1987 as a sophomore, but was outstanding in Senior Bowl last year. Great
size, speed and acceleration. Needs to break tackles better. Probable
first rounder.
	Rodney Hampton, Georgia, 6-0, 215, 4.44. Blazing speed, ability to
clear the pile on short yardage downs and excellent receiver. Has had
knee problems. Probable first rounder in crowded running back pool.
	Harold Green, South Carolina, 6-1 1/2, 216, 4.62. Tremendous
all-around skills for his size, among best receiving RBs in nation last
year. Outplayed Indiana's Anthony Thompson in East-West Shrine game, and
good postseason workouts have improved his stock. Should go in first
round.
	Anthony Thompson, Indiana, 5-11, 210, 4.64. Amazingly durable and
strong back who bench presses 415 pounds and squats 465. Makes up for
lack of breakaway speed with ability to bull defenders for extra yards.
Workhorse back should go in first round.
	Reggie Cobb, Tennessee, 6-0, 225, 4.57. One of most talented
runners in draft. Because he was twice suspended from the team at
Tennessee because of off-field problems, lesser backs will be drafted
before him. He could go as high as the second round, but carries a lot
of risk.
	Dexter Carter, Florida State, 5-8, 170, 4.44. Has held up well
despite size. Could do for some team what Dave Meggett did for Giants
last year. Has sprinter's speed, and will likely be used in passing
situations.
	Steve Broussard, Washington State, 5-7, 200, 4.45. Mini-back who
received little publicity in college but has really impressed at combine
workouts. Reaches hole quickly with darting running style. Good
receiver. But he has had shoulder injuries.
	James Gray, Texas Tech, 5-10, 205, 4.55. Productive, unflashy, back
who improved every year. Has good moves and makes sharp cuts. Did little
blocking as deep back in I-formation.
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	Anthony Johnson, Notre Dame, 6-0, 222, 4.65. Highest rated pure FB
in draft. Can run inside, block and catch although he is neither
exceptionally big nor fast. Underrated in college because FB gets
overlooked in Notre Dame's offense. Borderline first-rounder.
	Carwell Gardner, Louisville, 6-1, 230, 4.63. Was DE at Kentucky
before transferring to Louisville and moving to FB last season. Super
ability, blocks and catches well but lacks FB experience. Suspended from
Kentucky team after 1987 season. Went from off the board in preseason to
potential second rounder.
	Barry Foster, Arkansas, 5-10, 217, 4.57. Bursts out of amazingly
low stance, hits holes quick. Tough to bring down. A little small for
FB. Surprisingly left school after junior season but will go high in
lean year for FBs.
	Johnny Johnson, San Jose State, 6-2, 210, 4.59. Great all-around
athlete. Recruited as RB and played WR before settling at FB. Can play
HB, FB. H-Back or WR in NFL. Small forward on basketball team.
Unimpressive combine workouts and moodiness hurts his position.
	Leroy Hoard, Michigan, 5-10, 215, 4.6. Can play RB or FB. Good
receiver. Came through in big games. Would make fine backup or
third-round back because of versatility. Blocking and conditioning need
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	Thumbnail sketeches of top wide receivers and tight ends available
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	Reggie Rembert, West Virginia, 6-4, 195, 4.42 seconds. Tall and
gives up nothing in speed. Consistent deep threat. Needs to sharpen his
pass routes, which he should do through repetitions. Highest rated WR in
draft and first rounder.
	Alex Wright, Auburn, 5-11, 185, 4.35. Fastest of top WR prospects.
Stretches defense and cuts well for a sprinter. Can return kickoffs.
Vertical jump of 35 inches. Might be great, but has some trouble judging
ball in the air. Played for a running offense. Probable second rounder.
	Greg McMurtry, Michigan, 6-3, 200, 4.55. Big target, gets open deep
but needs to improve his speed and quickness off the line. Center
fielder for baseball team, turned down six-figure bonus as Red Sox'
first-round pick in 1986. May go in first round.
	Mike Bellamy, Illinois, 6-0, 190, 4.43. Developed into top notch WR
last year. Strong and fast, but drops passes he should catch and his
concentration wanes at times. Also returns kicks.
	Fred Barnett, Arkansas State, 6-0, 200, 4.43. Caught 95 passes in
four seasons in a wishbone college offense. Fast and excellent leaper
with a 40-inch vertical jump. Needs to develop pass routes and reads.
	Stacy Simmons, Florida, 5-9, 185, 4.33. Development hurt by knee
injury and playing in running offense in college. But he showed lots of
potential, and adds excitement as a return man.
	Ricky Proehl, Wake Forest, 5-11, 188, 4.5. Has enough speed to get
open and outstanding hands. Not much of an open-field runner. Would be
best used as a possession receiver opposite a burner.
	Shannon Sharpe, Savannah State (Ga.), 6-1, 225, 4.59. Brother of
Packers WR Sterling Sharpe. Good possession receiver, needs to work on
blocking and keeping his weight down.
	Clarkston Hines, Duke, 5-11, 170, 4.48. Set NCAA record with 38
career TD receptions. Lack of size and speed prevent him from going in
the first round. But he gets open, catches the ball and runs precise
routes.
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	Eric Green, Liberty, 6-4, 265. 4.79. Best of a weak TE field. Big,
fast, and a good blocker. Could be outstanding if he keeps working. Must
develop upper body to go along with big strong legs. Probable late
first-round, early second-round pick.
	Jesse Anderson, Mississippi State, 6-2, 242, 4.58. Played OLB and
FB in between stints at TE in college. Might end up at FB or H-Back.
Excellent runner after the catch. Blocking needs work.
	Mike Jones, Texas A&M, 6-3, 245, 4.7. Made great strides as a
senior. Can block, catch and run but often lacks intensity. Clutch
receiver.
	Charles Arbuckle, UCLA, 6-2, 239, 4.61. Seemed to miss having Troy
Aikman throw to him last year; stopped improving and lost standing as
No. 1 TE prospect. Great talent: 36-inch vertical jump and benches 375.
Has had knee injury and not much of a blocker. Could be an H-Back.
	Scott Galbraith, Southern Cal, 6-2, 257, 4.91. More of a blocker
than receiver, although his catching skills improved. Should fit in on a
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                          _D_r_a_f_t_ _C_a_p_s_u_l_e_s
                             _A_t_l_a_n_t_a
	Picks -- Nos. 1 and 20; 11 total
	Needs -- running back, defensive line, tackle, secondary
	Possibilities -- QB Jeff George, QB Andre Ware, OLB Keith McCants,
OLB Junior Seau or trade the first pick
	Trade bait? -- No. 1 pick
                             _N_Y_ _J_e_t_s
	Picks -- No. 2; 13 total
	Needs -- offensive line, wide receiver, defensive line, secondary
	Possibilities -- RB Blair Thomas, George, McCants, Seau
	Trade bait? -- None
                           _N_e_w_ _E_n_g_l_a_n_d
	Picks -- No. 3; 12 total
	Needs -- quarterback, secondary, running back
	Possibilities -- George, Ware, McCants, Thomas, RB Harold Green, RB
Rodney Hampton, trade up for No. 1 pick
	Trade bait? -- None
                            _T_a_m_p_a_ _B_a_y
	Picks -- No. 4; 12 total
	Needs -- running back, defensive line, offensive line, wide
receivers.
	Possibilities -- McCants, Thomas, RB Emmitt Smith, DT Cortez Kennedy
	Trade bait? -- Early-round picks for San Diego RB Gary Anderson
                            _S_a_n_ _D_i_e_g_o
	Picks -- No. 5; 13 total.
	Needs -- offensive line, tight end, secondary
	Possibilities -- T Richmond Webb, CB James Williams
	Trade bait? -- RB Gary Anderson
                             _C_h_i_c_a_g_o
	Picks -- No. 6; 14 total (3 of first 33).
	Needs -- defensive line, cornerback, offensive line, wide receiver
	Possibilities -- Kennedy, McCants, Seau, ILB Lamar Lathon
	Trade bait? -- Extra picks to move up
                             _D_e_t_r_o_i_t
	Picks -- No. 7; 14 total
	Needs -- defensive end, cornerback, wid receiver
	Possibilities -- DE Reynaldo Turnbull, Seau, Ware, WR Alex Wright,
WR Reggie Rembert
	Trade bait? -- QB Chuck Long
                             _S_e_a_t_t_l_e
	Picks -- Nos. 8 and 10; 12 total
	Needs -- running back, offensive line, tight end, defensive end,
inside linebacker, secondary
	Possibilities -- Green, Hampton, Smith, TE Eric Green, Turnbull, DE
Oliver Barnett, Williams
	Trade bait? -- None
                              _M_i_a_m_i
	Picks -- No. 9; 11 total
	Needs -- defensive end, outside linebacker, cornerback
	Possibilities -- Seau, Williams, Webb, DT Marc Spindler
	Trade bait? -- None
                            _L_A_ _R_a_i_d_e_r_s
	Picks -- No. 11; 12 total
	Needs -- Linebacker, offensive tackle, cornerback
	Possibilities -- Lathon, ILB Percy Snow, OLB James Francis, OLB
Chris Singleton
	Trade bait? -- Middle-round picks
                            _C_i_n_c_i_n_n_a_t_i
	Picks -- No. 12; 12 total
	Needs -- defensive end, linebacker, guard
	Possibilities -- Francis, Singleton, Hampton, DE Ray Agnew
	Trade bait? -- None
                           _K_a_n_s_a_s_ _C_i_t_y
	Picks -- No. 13; 11 total
	Needs -- wide receiver, defensive end, running back
	Possibilities -- Wright, Rembert, WR Greg McMurtry, Smith, Hampton,
RB Darrell Thompsonr
	Trade bait? None
                           _N_e_w_ _O_r_l_e_a_n_s
	Picks -- No. 14 overall, 11 total
	Needs -- defensive line, wide receiver, safety
	Possibilities -- Spindler, Agnew, Rembert
	Trade bait? -- QB Bobby Hebert
                             _H_o_u_s_t_o_n
	Picks -- No. 15; 12 total
	Needs -- cornerback, linebacker, center
	Possibilities -- Ware, Williams, CB Vince Buck, DT Mike Fox
	Trade bait? -- RBs Mike Rozier and Lorenzo White
                             _B_u_f_f_a_l_o
	Picks -- No. 16; 11 total
	Needs -- wide receiver, cornerback, defensive line
	Possibilities -- Spindler, Agnew, Fox, Rembert, Buck
	Trade bait? -- None.
                            _P_i_t_t_s_b_u_r_g_h
	Picks -- No. 17; 12 total
	Needs -- wide receiver, defensive end, linebacker
	Possibilities -- Spindler, Singleton, McMurtyr, OLB Ron Cox
	Trade bait? -- None
                            _G_r_e_e_n_ _B_a_y
	Picks -- Nos. 18 and 19; 13 total
	Needs -- defensive line, secondary, tight end
	Possibilities -- TE Green, Buck, OLB Aaron Wallace
	Trade bait? -- None
                              _D_a_l_l_a_s
	Picks -- No. 21; 14 total
	Needs -- running back, defensive line, secondary, tackle
	Possibilities -- Spindler, Wallace, D.Thompson, RB Anthony Thompson,
RB Steve Broussard, RB Dexter Carter
	Trade bait? -- QB Steve Walsh
	Picks -- No. 22; 13 total
	Needs -- wide receiver, offensive line, secondary
	Possibilities -- McMurtry, Rembert, Wright, WR Mike Bellamy, FB
Anthony Johnson, FB Carwell Gardner
	Trade bait? -- None
                             _L_A_ _R_a_m_s
	Picks -- No. 23; 12 total.
	Needs -- defensive line, cornerback, offensive line
	Possibilities -- G Mohammad Elewonibi, C Bern Brostek, CB Ben Smith,
CB Tony Stargell, DE Jeff Alm
	Trade bait? -- RBs Gaston Green or Greg Bell
                            _N_Y_ _G_i_a_n_t_s
	Picks -- No. 24; 11 total
	Needs -- defensive line, running back, safety
	Possibilities -- RB A. Thompson, Broussard, Carter, QB Scott
Mitchell, DE Rob Burnett, DE Craig Veasey
	Trade bait? -- CB Perry Williams
                          _S_a_n_ _F_r_a_n_c_i_s_c_o
	Picks -- No. 25; 10 total
	Needs -- Nose tackle, offensive line, linebacker
	Possibilities -- NT Tony Savage, DE Dennis Brown, ILB Jeroy
Robinson, T Glenn Parker, Elewonibi, Brostek
	Trade bait? -- RB Terrence Flagler, CB Tim McKyer
                             _P_h_o_e_n_i_x
	Picks -- No. 31; 11 total
	Needs -- running back, defensive line, secondary
	Possibilities -- Gardner, FB Barry Foster, RB A. Thompson, RB James
Gray, Broussard, Carter
	Trade bait? -- None
                           _I_n_d_i_a_n_a_p_o_l_i_s
	Picks -- No. 36; 13 total
	Needs -- offensive line, secondary, tight end
	Possibilities -- TE Jesse Anderson, C-G Tim Grunhard, C Frank
Cornish, G Keith Sims
	Trade bait? -- RB Eric Dickerson
                            _C_l_e_v_e_l_a_n_d
	Picks -- No. 45; 10 total
	Needs -- defensive end, offensive line, tight end
	Possibilities -- DE Joe Smeenge, TE Mike Jones, T Bill Schultz,
trade for first-round pick
	Trade bait? -- LB Clifford Charlton, WR Reggie Langhorne, CB Frank
Minnifield
                            _W_a_s_h_i_n_g_t_o_n
	Picks -- No. 46; 11 total
	Needs -- middle linebacker, defensive end, safety
	Possibilities -- Robinson, LB Darion Connor, ILB Bryce Paup
	Trade bait? -- None
                              _D_e_n_v_e_r
	Picks -- No. 52; 9 total
	Needs -- defensive line, tackle, tight end, cornerback
	Possibilities -- Robinson, NT Fred Washington, DE Willis Peguese
	Trade bait? -- None
                            _M_i_n_n_e_s_o_t_a
	Picks -- No. 54; 11 total
	Needs -- middle linebacker, free safety, wide receiver
	Possibilities -- WR Shannon Sharpe, WR Fred Barnett, DB Robert
Blackmon
	Trade bait? -- D.J.Dozier
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    I watched some Madison Square Garden network off of satellite last
    night and two NFL analysts said they expect both Tampa Bay and San
    Diego to trade down in the first round.
    
    Glenn

    Well Charles, I sure hope the Chargers and Bucs make the trade for Gary
    Anderson.  He lives in Tampa and loves it there, so if we trade him, I
    hope we trade him there and get Tampa's #1.   Then we'd have the #6 &
    #7 picks in the first round, and we'll draft Junior Seau and Richmond
    Webb.  Let's do it!
    
    Glenn

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	Richmond Webb, Texas A&M, 6-6, 290, 5.09 seconds. Moved from LG to
LT last year, and will probably stay at tackle. Greatly improved his
pass blocking and had outstanding Senior Bowl. Punishing drive blocker.
Top 10 pick.
	Glenn Parker, Arizona, 6-5 1/2, 300. 5.16. Outstanding size. Quick
for a big man. Never played football until junior college. Techniques
need work. Suffered a hairline right tibula fracture. Will be
24-year-old rookie.
	Bill Schultz, USC, 6-4, 287. 5.15. Played only one season at USC,
and drew little preseason publicity. Tough and strong, bench presses
over 400 pounds. Could also play G. Might need a few years before he is
ready to start.
                              _G_u_a_r_d_s
	Mohammed Elewonibi, BYU, 6-4, 285, 5.1. Outland Trophy winner as
nation's best interior lineman last year. Born in Nigeria, mother is
French-Canadian. Never played football until junior college. Big, smart,
mature and good pass blocker who might be tried at T. Negatives are five
shoulder operations, lack of experience and he will be a 25-year-old
rookie. Still, talent alone makes him a first rounder.
	Reggie Redding, Fullerton State, 6-3 1/2, 280, 5.18. Fine trap
blocker. Played T in college but will probably move to G in NFL. Needs
to work on pass blocking. Had trouble with Reynaldo Turnbull at Senior
Bowl practices. Late starter, began playing football as senior in high
school. Lot of ability.
	Keith Sims, Iowa State, 6-2 1/4, 310, 5.24. Massive, drive blocker
who keeps moving up and might go in the first round. Has started at T
and C as well as G. Bench press over 450 pounds. Was overweight in the
Blue-Gray game and must work to keep weight down.
	Tim Grunhard, Notre Dame, 6-2, 298, 5.16. Big, tough and fast.
Blocking techniques need work but he is versatile and excellent
long-snapper.
                             _C_e_n_t_e_r_s
	Bern Brostek, Washington, 6-2 1/2, 290, 5.31. Started all but one
game in four years of college. Not real athletic but strong and
amazingly durable. Can handle NT without help. Has played some G.
	Dean Caliguire, Pittsburgh, 6-3, 265, 5.12. Great competitor, works
hard and strong. Bench presses 420 and squats 615. Good run blocker.
Suffered broken ankle last season.
	Frank Cornish, UCLA, 6-4, 285, 5.34. Strong, durable, excellent
pass protector who needs to work on his run blocking. Benches 430 and
squats 520. Father Frank played DT for Dolphins and Bears.

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                    _D_e_f_e_n_s_i_v_e_ _i_n_t_e_r_i_o_r_ _l_i_n_e_m_e_n
	Cortez Kennedy, Miami, 6-2, 293, 4.85 seconds. Ideal 4-3 DT. Had
weight problems in college and only started one year, but showed a ton
of talent as a senior. Quick off the ball, fast, good power and can
split the double team. Only drawback is he is short. Certain first
rounder.
	Mark Spindler, Pittsburgh, 6-4, 290, 4.94. Coming out after junior
season, although he won't turn 21 until Nov. 28. Good outside moves and
fluid inside rusher. Bench presses over 420 pounds. Extremely
aggressive, but has history of knee injuries. First rounder.
	Ray Agnew, North Carolina St., 6-3, 280, 4.82. Outstanding lateral
movement and strength, benches over 500 pounds. Consistent inside force,
may end up at DE. Likely middle to late first rounder.
	Mike Fox, West Virginia, 6-6, 280, 4.99. Showed great improvement
senior year after moving from contain tackle to rush tackle. Dominates
middle of the line. Continued to move up with good off-season workouts.
A future All-Pro if he develops some finesse moves. Late first-round or
early second-round pick.
	Jeff Alm, Notre Dame, 6-5, 260, 4.93. Tall rusher, excels at
batting down passes. Height sometimes works against him on cut blocks,
though. Intercepted 3 passes and batted down 6 last year, but had just 1
sack. Could go in first round.
	Fred Washington, TCU, 6-2, 280, 5.05. Strong and hard worker. Great
competitor who can play anywhere along DL. Plays low and controls line
of scrimmage. Hindered by ankle injuries last year. Might be moved to
DE.
	Tony Savage, Washington State, 6-3, 305, 5.19. Wide body, pure
power rusher who often flushes passer from the pocket. Must control his
weight to retain mobility. Will play NT or 4-3 DT.
	Tony Siragusa, Pittsburgh, 6-3, 290, 4.89. Came back last year
after missing 1988 season because of major knee surgery. Was perhaps
best sophomore DL prospect in 1986, before knee injuries. Will be solid
4-3 DT if knees hold up.
                          _D_e_f_e_n_s_i_v_e_ _e_n_d_s
	Reynaldo Turnbull, West Virginia, 6-4, 245, 4.62. Has outstanding
pass rushing talents that are so much in demand. Played OLB in college,
but was used more like a DE and will probably play on the line in NFL.
Hard to throw over. Will be 24-year-old rookie. Probable first DE
drafted.
	Oliver Barnett, Kentucky, 6-2 3/4, 290. 4.81. Fast with good
acceleration. Underrated in college. Avid weight lifter, benches 420
pounds and squats 850. Played DT in wide-tackle six-man front, which is
like DE in pro defense.
	Craig Veasey, Houston, 6-2, 280, 4.92. Excellent pass rushing
technique. Applies pressure from inside and hustles. Could move to NT.
	Anthony Smith, Arizona, 6-4, 250, 4.84. Good pass rusher, but might
lack size to play DE in NFL. May switch to OLB. Will be used as pass
rushing specialist at start of his pro career. Nice spin move, but lacks
strenghth and bulk. Sat out Senior Bowl with knee injury.
	Joel Smeenge, Western Michigan, 6-5, 250, 4.7. Hybrid DE-OLB pass
rushing specialist, really moved up with impressive Senior Bowl week.
Can beat blocker wide on pass rush, and learned good inside move. Needs
to add bulk, but any pass rusher this good will be drafted in first two
rounds.

    FYI.......
    
    A couple more rumors.....
    
    Indianapolis offered Chris Hinton, Andre (?) Rison and their #2 pick
    for Atlanta's first pick in the draft (this deal was originally
    suggested by the FALCONS) and Atlanta turned it down!!!  Then, Mike
    Herok (?) (whoever the GM in Atlanta is) called Jim Irsay later asking
    him to re-open the talks.  Atlanta said that they would now make that
    very same deal (are you following this?).....and the two teams are
    currently deciding whether or not to go thru with it!!
    
    
    Another trade rumor:
    
    The Saints have offered Craig 'Ironhead' Heywood and Rueben Mayes (in
    addition to a draft pick) to the Eagles for Keith Jackson!!!
    
    Lastly,  the Patriots are said to be leaning strongly towards trading
    down in the first round if Jeff George and Blair Thomas are taken with
    the first two picks in the draft.
    
    
    
    Nelly

       According to reports last night, the Pats now have the hots for
    Andre Ware. Maybe they're as confused as we always thought they were.
    They DO need a Qb though.
                                             denny

    Gil the Thrill Fennerty, ex-Holy Cross star running back, and current
    CFL star, will sign a contract wif the N'orleans Saints today -
    according to the Canadien networks.   Big news in Canada ! ;')
    
    JD

       He had over 1200 yds in the CFL last year, made the All-CFL team.
                                           Denny

    
    
    Atlanta traded the first pick in the draft to Indianapolis
    for Chris Hinton, Andre Rison, Indy's 2nd and 5th round picks 
    plus Indy's 1st pick in next years draft.
    
    
    Sasquatch
    
    

    The Colts will never get any better if they keep making stupid trades
    like this one and the Dickerson trade.  They give up too much for
    too little.  Thank you, Jim and Bob Irsay.
    
    John

       Colts must sign George by 5:00 today, or the deals off.
                                      Denny

    The latest transactions:
    
    San Diego traded Garry Anderson to Tampa Bay for a third round pick in
    1990 and a conditional 2nd round pick in 1991, contingent on Anderson
    signing with Tampa Bay by noon Saturday.
    
    San Francisco traded RB Terrence Flagler, DE Dan Stubbs and 1990 third
    and 11th round picks to Dallas for a 2nd round 1990 pick acquired from
    the Vikings and a 3rd round pick acquired from the Chiefs.
    
    The Atlanta-Indianapolis trade is contingent on the Colts signing Jeff
    George by midnight tonight.
    
    
    Nelly

    re .167
    
    The Colts are crazy. Nuff said.

    George won't pull an Elway because he grew up in Indianapolis.  A
    sports announcer said this morning that he grew up in a suburb of Indy
    and by 5:00 today he could have enough money to buy it.
    
    	--dan'l

    
    Stupid trade for the Colts... Wasn't Trudeau supposed to be the
    savior... then Chandler...  What are these guys doing!

    Chandler was a steal for the Colts.  What they need now is not another
    unproven QB but a new owner.  
    
    BTW, good article in SI this week describing the 86 49ers draft by Bill
    Walsh.
    
    Charles

Bring the Colts back to Baltimore, give them a QB who wears a crew-cut
and high-tops and they just might do well.  Other than that, not a
chance!

    
    What is Chandler's stats? Maybe he's not making it back from his latest
    injury? He certainly showed enough promise to make this look like a
    stupid deal on the Colts part unless he isn't making it back.....
    
    mike

    
    Another thing how many years are the Colts quaranteed sellouts at the
    Dome? Perhaps time is running out and they're signing the local
    hero to put people in the seats. Kinda of like some team around
    here did.
    
    :^)
    
    mike

The real stupid part is to trade George's only protection player (Hinton). 
Dickerson will retire without Hinton to blow open the holes. 

Jeff

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	Thumbnail sketches of the top linebacker prospects in Sunday's NFL
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	Keith McCants, Alabama, 6-5, 256, 4.51. Was expected to be Falcons'
No. 1 pick, until he hired the wrong agent, refused to workout for
scouts and news leaked of an old knee injury. His attitude has scared
off teams but he has to be a top five pick. Combines a lineman's size
with LB's speed and tenacity. Can line up almost anywhere on the field.
May play ILB, or even DE. Franchise player.
	Junior Seau, USC, 6-2, 240, 4.61. Born Tiaini Seau Jr. in American
Samoa, his friends call him Junior. Combines great speed with 440-pound
bench press. Raw talent overcomes his lack of college experience. Rated
amazingly high for someone who started just one year in college and
passed up senior season. Nobody seems to mind his bad Rose Bowl. Certain
first-round pick.
	James Francis, Baylor, 6-4 1/2, 245, 4.76. Underrated in college
despite starting three seasons and making things happen. Blocked 8 kicks
and 5 passes, intercepted 4 and recovered 3 fumbles last year. Throws
blockers around. Played three years of basketball for Baylor, appearing
in NCAA and NIT tournaments. First rounder.
	Chris Singleton, Arizona, 6-2, 245, 4.62. Not as flashy as other
top OLB prospects but steady performer and hard worker. Benches over 425
pounds. Missed Senior Bowl to give bone marrow transplant to twin
brother Kevin, who suffers from leukemia. Only crowded LB field can keep
him out of first round.
	Ron Cox, Fresno State, 6-1 1/2, 238, 4.63. Coming out after
outstanding junior season. Pass rusher, must prove he can play in
coverage. Another question is whether his ability was inflated by weak
college opposition. First or second rounder.
	Aaron Wallace, Texas A&M, 6-3, 230, 4.5. Great natural talent.
Speedy blitzer who must hit the weight room and learn how to drop into
coverage to make it big in NFL. Erratic senior season probably knocked
him from first round but will go in top three rounds.
	Tony Bennett, Mississippi, 6-1 1/2, 234, 4.62. Perfect LB: fast,
tough and has a pet python. Avid weight lifter, benches 425 and squats
600. Needs development, especially on pass coverage. Probably second
rounder because of LB surplus.
	Terry Wooden, Syracuse, 6-2, 232, 4.62. Good blitzer, and has speed
to cover backs although it will take some work. Needs to get stronger,
and is coming off non-serious knee injury suffered in East-West Shrine
game. Second rounder.
	Andre Collins, Penn State, 6-1, 220, 4.74. Played S first two years
at Penn State. Naturally, his strong point is pass coverage. Good
special teams player. Lacks LBs size, but is well-coached, smart and
disciplined.
	Darion Conner, Jackson State, 6-2 1/2, 256, 4.77. Great physical
talent, but raw and did not face top college competition.
                        _I_n_s_i_d_e_ _l_i_n_e_b_a_c_k_e_r_s
	Lamar Lathon, Houston, 6-3, 248, 4.54. Big, aggressive and fast.
Can play any LB spot, outside or inside. Suffered fractured sternum in
car accident last summer and missed half of 1989 season with knee
injury. Is passing up senior season, in part, to pay for rehabilitation
for his crack-addicted sister. Lacks experience but talent makes him
first-round pick.
	Percy Snow, Michigan St., 6-1, 238, 4.68. Probably best pure ILB in
draft. Wide neck, powerful body makes him ideal for run stuffing. Also
excellent in coverage. Started every game last three years. Played MLB
of 4-3 in college, often lining up behind a DT. Needs to work on his
reads and reactions a bit. First rounder.
	Jeroy Robinson, Texas A&M, 6-1, 242, 4.59. Capped an outstanding
first year at ILB with a fine Hula Bowl and impressive postseason
testing. Was a backup OLB in 1988. Bench presses close to 500 pounds and
amazingly quick. Inexperienced.
	Bryce Paup, Northern Iowa, 6-4, 240, 4.99. Ferocious tackler,
played DE and OLB before settling in at ILB at Div. I-AA school. Best
suited for ILB in 3-4. Works hard, will do what it takes to make it in
NFL. Has some trouble getting outside on sweeps.

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                           _C_o_r_n_e_r_b_a_c_k_s
	J.D. Williams, Fresno St., 5-10, 175, 4.29. Fastest player in
draft, with 38-inch vertical jump. Blocked 6 kicks in 1988. Excellent
bump-and-run cover man. Has trouble on the runs, perhaps because of
size. Best of a mediocre group of CBs, will go in first round.
	Vince Buck, Central (Ohio) St., 6-0, 200, 4.77. Big, strong,
four-year starter at small college. Might have trouble adjusting
coverage to NFL-calibre receivers. Will return kicks until ready to play
CB.
	LeRoy Butler, Florida State, 5-11, 192, 4.48. Moved from FS to CB
last season. Still has some problems on man-to-man coverage, but handles
zone and forces run well. Plays hurt and returns kicks. If he falters at
CB, can move back to FS.
	Tony Stargell, Tennessee State, 5-11, 179, 4.38. Overlooked but
excellent small-college coverage CB. Started four years and has perfect
CB mentality: he is confident and not afraid to gamble. Not invited to
February combine, but might sneak into the first round.
                             _S_a_f_e_t_i_e_s
	Mark Carrier, USC, 6-0, 185, 4.5. Could start at FS as a rookie.
Follows former Trojans safeties Ronnie Lott and Dennis Smith. Won Jim
Thorpe award last year, as junior, for best DB in nation. Great range,
can make big plays but drops interceptions. Probable first DB pick.
	Pat Terrell, Notre Dame, 6-0 1/2, 200, 4.48. Played WR two years
before moving to FS. Has size, speed and strentgh. Reads QBs and
anticipates well. Not much of a hitter on running plays. Late first,
early second round.
	Robert Blackmon, Baylor, 5-11, 195, 4.59. Well-built, hard hitter
who will probably play SS because he lacks the speed for CB. Around the
ball a lot but can be beaten outside by speed WRs. Finished senior
season strong, intercepted 8 passes.
	Ben Smith, Georgia, 5-11, 185, 4.45. Really moved up with fine
senior season and combine workouts. Played CB and FS, and could be used
at either spot. Prefers S.
	Alton Montgomery, Houston, 6-0, 200, 4.56. Big hitter, capable of
intimidating receivers. Plays like extra LB sometimes. Coverage skills
need improving but has the makings of a good SS.
	Harlon Barnett, Michigan State, 5-11, 190, 4.55. Played CB, FS and
SS in college. A little small for S and may lack cover skills for CB,
but has fine range and agility. Could fit in well on nickel and dime
packages until he's ready to start.

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	First pick in every NFL draft (drafting team in parantheses):
	1990--Jeff George, QB, Illinois (Indianapolis)
	1989--Troy Aikman, QB, UCLA, (Dallas)
	1988--Aundray Bruce, LB, Auburn (Atlanta)
	1987--Vinny Testaverde, QB, Miami (Tampa Bay)
	1986--Bo Jackson, RB, Auburn (Tampa Bay)
	1985--Bruce Smith, DE, Virginia Tech (Buffalo)
	1984--Irving Fryar, WR, Nebraska (New England)
	1983--John Elway, QB, Stanford (Baltimore)
	1982--Kenneth Sims, DE, Texas (New England)
	1981--George Rogers, RB, South Carolina (New Orleans)
	1980--Billy Sims, RB, Oklahoma (Detroit)
	1979--Tom Cousineau, LB, Ohio State (Buffalo)
	1978--Earl Campbell, RB, Texas (Houston)
	1977--Ricky Bell, RB, Southern California (Tampa Bay)
	1976--Lee Roy Selmon, DE, Oklahoma (Tampa Bay)
	1975--Steve Bartkowski, QB, California (Atlanta)
	1974--Ed Jones, DE, Tennessee State (Dallas)
	1973--John Matuszak, DE, Tampa (Houston)
	1972--Walt Patulski, DE, Notre Dame (Buffalo)
	1971--Jim Plunkett, QB, Stanford (New England)
	1970--Terry Bradshaw, QB, Louisiana Tech (Pittsburgh)
	1969--O.J. Simpson, RB, Southern California (Buffalo)
	1968--Ron Yary, T, Southern California (Minnesota)
	1967--Bubba Smith, DE, Michigan State (Baltimore)
	1966--Tommy Nobis, LB, Texas (Atlanta) -- NFL
	Jim Grabowski, RB, Illinois (Miami) -- AFL
	1965--Tucker Frederickson, RB, Auburn (New York) -- NFL
	Lawrence Elkins, WR, Baylor (Houston) -- AFL
	1964--Dave Parks, WR, Texas Tech (San Francisco) -- NFL
	Jack Concannon, QB, Boston College (Boston) -- AFL
	1963--Terry Baker, QB, Oregon State (Los Angeles) -- NFL
	Buck Buchanan, DT, Grambling (Kansas City) -- AFL
	1962--Ernie Davis, RB, Syracuse (Washington) -- NFL
	Roman Gabriel, QB, North Carolina State (Oakland) -- AFL
	1961--Tommy Mason, RB, Tulane (Minnesota) -- NFL
	Ken Rice, G, Auburn (Buffalo) -- AFL
	1960--Billy Cannon, RB, Louisiana State (Los Angeles)
	1959--Randy Duncan, QB, Iowa (Green Bay)
	1958--King Hill, QB, Rice (Chicago Cardinals)
	1957--Paul Hornung, RB, Notre Dame (Green Bay)
	1956--Gary Glick, DB, Colorado A&M (Pittsburgh)
	1955--George Shaw, QB, Oregon (Baltimore)
	1954--Bobby Garrett, QB, Stanford (Cleveland)
	1953--Harry Babcock, E, Georgia (San Francisco)
	1952--Bill Wade, QB, Vanderbilt (Los Angeles)
	1951--Kyle Rote, HB, Southern Methodist (New York)
	1950--Leon Hart, E, Notre Dame (Detroit)
	1949--Chuck Bednarik, C, Pennsylvania (Philadelphia)
	1948--Harry Gilmer, QB, Alabama (Washington)
	1947--Bob Fenimore, HB, Oklahoma A&M (Chicago Bears)
	1946--Frank Dancewicz, QB, Notre Dame (Boston)
	1945--Charley Trippi, HB, Georgia (Chicago Cardinals)
	1944--Angelo Bertelli, QB, Notre Dame (Boston)
	1943--Frank Sinkwich, HB, Georgia (Detroit)
	1942--Bill Dudley, HB, Virginia (Pittsburgh)
	1941--Tom Harmon, HB, Michigan (Chicago Bears)
	1940--George Cafego, HB, Tennessee (Chicago Cardinals)
	1939--Ki Aldrich, C, Texas Christian (Chicago Cardinals)
	1938--Corbett Davis, FB, Indiana (Cleveland)
	1937--Sam Francis, FB, Nebraska (Philadelphia)
	1936--Jay Berwanger, HB, Chicago (Philadelphia)

    Did Major Harris even get drafted?  Can't pick his name out of the
    miniscule print in my paper.
    
    	--dan'l

    They only had rounds 1-5 yesterday, rounds 6-12 are today.  Major
    hadn't been drafted through round 4.
    
    John

    I thought McMurtry was slated to go in the early second round at
    the latest?  Any ideas why he was still available for the Pats'
    4th pick?
    
    Mark.

       He was drafted by the Dead Sox too. Mark. But I still caint figure
    out why he lasted so long. Glad he did though. Anyone have info on the
    Pats Qb pick? John?
                                             Denny

    Hodson was a 4-year starter at LSU.  The Tigers had 3 great seasons
    while he there and faltered badly when he was a senior.  He was
    fine but the team around him was awful.  Tough kid, good arm.  I'm
    personally not convinced that he will be the QB of the future, but
    no one felt Steve Grogan would develop the way he did either.
    
    I honestly don't know why McMurtry lasted so long.  I know we had
    him rated very highly.
    
    John

ROUND ONE
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 1. Dallas --  (used selection in 1989 supplemental draft)
 2. Indianapolis (from Atlanta) -- Jeff George, qb, Illinois
 3. New York Jets -- Blair Thomas, rb, Penn State
 4. Phoenix --  (used selection in 1989 supplemental draft)
 5. Seattle -- Cortez Kennedy, dt, Miami
 6. Tampa Bay -- Keith McCants, lb, Alabama
 7. San Diego -- Junior Seau, lb, Southern California
 8. Chicago -- Mark Carrier, db, Southern California
 9. Detroit  -- Andre Ware, qb, Houston
10. New England from Seattle -- Chris Singleton, lb, Arizona
11. Miami -- Richmond Webb, t, Texas A&M
12. New England (from Indianapolis thru Seattle) - Ray Agnew, dt, 
                                           North Carolina State
13. Los Angeles Raiders -- Anthony Smith, de, Arizona
14. Cincinnati -- James Francis, lb, Baylor
15. Kansas City -- Percy Snow, lb, Michigan State
16. New Orleans -- Renaldo Turnbull, de, West Virginia
17. Houston -- Lamar Lathon, lb, Houston
18. Buffalo -- James Williams, db, Fresno State
19. Dallas (from Pittsburgh) -- Emmitt Smith, rb, Florida
20. Green Bay (from Cleveland) -- Tony Bennett, lb, Mississippi
21. Green Bay -- Darrell Thompson, rb, Minnesota
22. Atlanta (from Washington) -- Steve Broussard, rb, Washington State
23. Pittsburgh (from Minnesota thru Dallas) -- Eric Green, te, Liberty
24. Philadelphia -- Ben Smith, db, Georgia
25. Los Angeles Rams -- Bern Brostek, c, Washington
26. New York Giants -- Rodney Hampton, rb, Georgia
27. Denver (used selection in 1989 supplemental draft)
28. San Francisco -- Dexter Carter, rb, Florida State
  

 ROUND TWO
 ---------

 1-26. Dallas -- Alexander Wright, wr, Auburn
 2-27. Atlanta -- Darion Connor, lb, Jackson State
 3-28. New York Jets -- Reggie Rembert, wr, West Virginia
 4-29. Seattle (from New England) -- Terry Wooden, lb, Syracuse
 5-30. Tampa Bay -- Reggie Cobb, rb, Tennessee
 6-31. Phoenix -- Anthony Thompson, rb, Indiana
 7-32. Chicago -- Fred Washington, dt, Texas Christian
 8-33. Chicago (from San Diego) -- Ron Cox, lb, Fresno State
 9-34. Seattle -- Robert Blackmon, db, Baylor
10-35. Detroit -- Dan Owens, de, Southern California
11-36. Indianapolis -- Anthony Johnson, fb, Notre Dame
12-37. Los Angeles Raiders -- Aaron Wallace, lb, Texas A&M
13-38. Cincinnati -- Harold Green, rb, South Carolina
14-39. Miami -- Keith Sims, g, Iowa State
15-40. Kansas City -- Tim Grunhard, c/g, Notre Dame
16-41. Houston -- Jeff Alm, de, Notre Dame
17-42. Buffalo -- Carwell Gardner, fb, Louisville
18-43. Pittsburgh -- Kenny Davidson, de, Louisiana State
19-44. New Orleans -- Vince Buck, db, Central State (Ohio)
20-45. Cleveland -- Leroy Hoard, rb, Michigan
21-46. Washington -- Andre Collins, lb, Penn State
22-47. San Francisco (from Minnesota thru Dallas) -- Dennis Brown, dt,
                                                   Washington
23-48. Green Bay -- Leroy Butler, db, Florida State
24-49. Los Angeles Rams -- Pat Terrell, db, Notre Dame
25-50. Philadelphia -- Mike Bellamy, wr, Illinois
26-51. New York Giants -- Mike Fox, dt, West Virginia
27-52. Denver -- Alton Montgomery, db, Houston
28-53. San Francisco -- Eric Davis, db, Jacksonville State



 ROUND THREE
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 1-54. Minnesota (from Dallas) -- Mike Jones, te, Texas A&M
 2-55. Atlanta -- Oliver Barnett, de, Kentucky
 3-56. New York Jets -- Tony Stargell, db, Tennessee State
 4-57. San Diego (from Tampa Bay) -- Jeff Mills, lb, Nebraska
 5-58. Phoenix -- Richard Proehl, wr, Wake Forest
 6-59. New England -- Tommy Hodson, qb, Louisiana State
 7-60. San Diego -- Leo Goeas, g, Hawaii
 8-61. Chicago -- Tim Ryan, dl, Southern California
 9-62. Detroit -- Marc Spindler, de, Pittsburgh
10-63. Dallas (from Seattle thru New England) -- Jimmie Jones, dl, Miami
11-64. Chicago (from L.A. Raiders) -- Peter Tom Willis, qb, Florida St
12-65. Cincinnati -- Bernard Clark, lb, Miami
13-66. Miami -- Alfred Oglesby, dt, Houston
14-67. San Diego (from Indianapolis) -- Walter Wilson, wr, East Carolina
15-68. San Francisco (from Kansas City thru Dallas) -- Ron Willis, wr,
                                                 Florida State
16-69. Buffalo -- Glenn Parker, ot, Arizona
17-70. Pittsburgh -- Neil O'Donnell, qb, Maryland
18-71. New Orleans -- Joel Smeenge, de, Western Michigan
19-72. Houston -- Willis Peguese, de, Miami
20-73. Cleveland -- Anthony Pleasant, de, Tennessee State
21-74. Minnesota -- Marion Hobby, de, Tennessee
22-75. Green Bay -- Bobby Houston, lb, North Carolina State
23-76. Washington -- Mohammed Elewonibi, g, Brigham Young
24-77. Philadelphia -- Fred Barnett, wr, Arkansas State
25-78. Los Angeles Rams -- Latin Berry, rb, Oregon
26-79. New York Giants -- Greg Mark, de, Miami
27-80. New England (from Denver thru Dallas) -- Greg McMurty, wr, Michigan
28-81. Pittsburgh (from San Francisco thru Dallas) -- Craig Veasey, dt,
                                                      Houston

 ROUND FOUR
 ----------

 1-82.  Denver (from Dallas) -- Jeroy Robinson, lb, Texas A&M
 2-83.  Indianapolis (from Atlanta) -- Stacey Simmons, wr, Florida
 3-84.  New York Jets -- Troy Taylor, qb, California
 4-85.  Phoenix -- Travis Davis, dt, Michigan State
 5-86.  Washington (from New England) -- Cary Conklin, qb, Washington
 6-87.  Tampa Bay -- Jesse Anderson, te, Mississippi State
 7-88.  Chicago -- Tony Moss, wr, Louisiana State
 8-89.  San Francisco (from San Diego thru L.A. Raiders) -- Dean 
                                          Caliguire, c, Pittsburgh
 9-90.  Seattle -- Chris Warren, rb, Ferrum
10-91.  Detroit -- Robert Hinckley, lb, Stanford
11-92.  Cincinnati -- Mike Brennan, t, Notre Dame
12-93.  Miami -- Scott Mitchell, qb, Utah
13-94.  Indianapolis -- Bill Schultz, t, Southern California
14-95.  Los Angeles Raiders -- Torin Dorn, db, North Carolina
15-96.  Kansas City -- Fred Jones, wr, Grambling
16-97.  Pittsburgh -- Chris Calloway, wr, Michigan
17-98.  New Orleans -- DeMond Winston, lb, Vanderbilt
18-99.  Houston -- Eric Still, g, Tennessee
19-100. Buffalo -- Eddie Fuller, rb Lousiana State
20-101. Cleveland -- Harlon Barnett, db, Michigan State
21-102. Green Bay -- Jackie Harris, te, Northeast Louisiana 
22-103. Indianapolis (from Washington) -- Alan Grant, db, Stanford
23-104. Minnesota -- Alonzo Hampton, db, Pittsburgh
24-105. Detroit (from L.A. Rams) -- Chris Oldham, db, Oregon
25-106. Indianapolis (from Philadelphia) -- Pat Cunningham, t, 
                                         Texas A&M
26-107. New York Giants -- David Whitmore, db, Stephen F. Austin
27-108. Tampa Bay (from Denver) -- Tony Mayberry, c, Wake Forest
28-109. Washington (from San Francisco thru L.A. Raiders) --
                         Rico Labbe, db, Boston College

 ROUND FIVE
 ----------

 1-110. New England (from Dallas thru Washington) -- Junior Robinson,
                                      db, East Carolina
 2-111. Denver (from Atlanta thru Washington and New England) -- 
                                      Jeff Davidson, g, Ohio State
 3-112. New York Jets -- Tony Savage, dt, Washington State
 4-113. New England -- Jon Melander, t, Minnesota
 5-114. Tampa Bay -- Ian Beckles, g, Indiana
 6-115. Phoenix -- Larry Centers, rb, Stephen F. Austin
 7-116. Minnesota (from San Diego thru Dallas) -- Reggie Thornton, wr,
                                      Bowling Green
 8-117. Chicago -- Pat Chaffey, rb, Oregon State
 9-118. Detroit -- Jeff Campbell, wr, Colorado
10-119. Seattle -- Eric Hayes, dt, Florida State
11-120. New England (from Miami thru Dallas) -- James Gray, rb, Texas Tech
12-121. Atlanta (from Indianapolis) -- Reggie Redding, te, Fullerton State
13-122. Cincinnati -- Lynn James, wr, Arizona State
14-123. Los Angeles Raiders -- Stan Smagala, db, Notre Dame
15-124. Kansas City -- Derrick Graham, t, Appalachian State
16-125. New Orleans -- Charles Arbuckle, te, UCLA
17-126. Houston -- Richard Newbill, lb, Miami
18-127. Kansas City (from Buffalo) -- Ken Hackemack, dt, Texas
19-128. Pittsburgh -- Barry Foster, rb, Arkansas
20-129. Cleveland -- Rob Burnett, de, Syracuse
21-130. Washington -- Brian Mitchell, rb, Southwest Louisiana State
22-131. Minnesota -- Cedric Smith, rb, Florida
23-132. Green Bay -- Charles Wilson, wr, Memphis State
24-133. Philadelphia -- Calvin Williams, wr, Purdue
25-134. New York Jets (from L.A. Rams) -- Robert McWright, db, Texas
                                      Christian
26-135. New York Giants -- Craig Kupp, qb, Pacific Lutheran
27-136. Denver -- Le-Lo Lang, db, Washington
28-137. Miami (from San Francisco thru L.A. Raiders and Washington) --
                                       Leroy Holt, rb, Southern California

>    Did Major Harris even get drafted?  Can't pick his name out of the
>    miniscule print in my paper.

Harris' agent is talking with teams in Canada.  He was projected as a middle-to-
late round pick in the NFL.


Joe

    I'm certain now that Harris should have stayed in college an extra
    year. But I also believe that if a team drafted Harris, and was
    patient, they'd have a gem in a few years ....
    
    Can somebody give me some info on Lamar Lathon of UH ? He's a ILB
    drafted by the Oilers, but it seems that the Oilers could have used
    a impact OLB even more ... I guess that this was one of those "best
    player available" picks .... 

       The raiders took Harris in the 12th round.
                                        Denny

Only 18 out of the 38 juniors were taken in the draft this year. The deal is 
these guys give up their senior yr of eligibility. This means that less than
50% of the younsters fooled by the agents actually got picked up. 

Jeff

       I'm sure they'll all go back to school in order to earn their
    dug-rees anyhow!
                                       Denny  ;^)

    Yo Mid - Here's the info on Lathon according to Buchsbaum:
    
    ILB-OLB Lamar Lathon
    
    Vitals:  6-3, 238, 4.53 before surgery, Houston
    
    Notes:  Outstanding hurdler in high school.  Prop 48 casualty in 1986. 
    Late-season starter in '87.  Starting outside linebacker in '88. 
    Injured in an auto accident in July '89.  Suffered a fractured and
    dislocated sternum.  Missed opener but came back to start the second
    game at middle linebacker.  Injured right knee (tore anterior cruciate
    ligament and cartilage) in practice the following week and had
    reconstructive surgery.  
    
    Positives:  (Before surgery)  Big, strong and vry fast, with good
    athletic ability.  Very aggresive and nasty.  Can fly to the ball. 
    Excellent range in pursuit.  Can stack the run and shed blockers.  Has
    the speed to run with backs on coverage.  Shows flashes as a blitzer. 
    Can play any LB position and is big enough to play down on passing
    downs.  
    
    Negatives:  Very limited experience and is coming off major knee
    surgery.  Inconsistent.  Takes false steps.  Will bite on fakes. 
    Overreacts.  Overzealous and hot-headed at times.  Needs to develop and 
    refine techniques, to mature and to fully rehabilitate his knee.
    
    Summary:  Could be a super prospect if he is healthy and improves his
    skills.  In some ways, he reminds me of former Tennessee State LB
    Waymond Bryant (4th pick in 84 draft) who also played for Jack Pardee
    when Pardee coached the Bears.
    
    Live from Charger Central....
    
    Glenn

    
>    Positives:  (Before surgery)  Big, strong and vry fast, with good
>    athletic ability.  Very aggresive and nasty.  Can fly to the ball. 
>    Excellent range in pursuit.  Can stack the run and shed blockers.  Has
>    the speed to run with backs on coverage.  Shows flashes as a blitzer. 
>    Can play any LB position and is big enough to play down on passing
>    downs.  
  
    Sounds like the impact player the Oilers need at OLB. The type of
    guy teams run away from.
      
>    Negatives:  Very limited experience and is coming off major knee
>    surgery.  
    
    Oh joy ! :-( The guy trashed his *ACL* ?! How many people come back
    100% from that injury in any sport, much less football !
    
>    Inconsistent.  Takes false steps.  Will bite on fakes. 
    
    OK, good coaching can take car of that.
    
>    Overreacts.  Overzealous and hot-headed at times.  Needs to develop and 
>    refine techniques, to mature and to fully rehabilitate his knee.
 
    He'll fit right in with Dishman eh ? :-)
    
    All in all, I've got to wonder about this pick. ACL injuries are
    no laughing matter. That's *major* surgery, of the Bernard King/Danny
    Manning/ Ron Harper variaty. It helps that he's young, which means
    a better chance at 95% recovery (doctors say that your knee can
    NEVER be the same again after an ACL operation). 
    
    I've got to believe that :
    
    1) The Oilers could have gotten Lathon a little later in the draft.
    2) Pardee made this pick because he knows hime from college, which
    can be good an bad.
    3) The Oilers could have packaged their number 1 and a RB and moved
    up to get McCants or Seau.
    
    I'll wait and see on this pick.
    
    
    BTW, Thanks a lot Glenn.
    
    Doc   
    Summary:  Could be a super prospect if he is healthy and improves his
    skills.  In some ways, he reminds me of former Tennessee State LB
    Waymond Bryant (4th pick in 84 draft) who also played for Jack Pardee
    when Pardee coached the Bears.
    
    Live from Charger Central....
    
    Glenn

    Doc -
    
    You're going to have to hold back your enthusiasm! ;-)
    
    Glenn

(From Clarinews)

Subject: Team-By-Team Draft List
 
	NEW YORK (UPI) -- Team-by-team list of the NFL draft picks,
including round drafted, name, position and school:
                               _A_F_C
                             _B_u_f_f_a_l_o
	1, J.D. Williams, CB, Fresno State; 2, Carwell Gardner, FB,
Louisville; 3, Glenn Parker, T, Arizona; 4, Eddie Fuller, RB, LSU; 6,
John Nies, P, Arizona; 7a, Brent Griffith, G, Minnesota-Duluth; 7b,
Brent Collins, LB, Carson-Newman; 7c, Fred De Riggi, NT, Syracuse; 8,
Marvcus Patton, LB, UCLA; 9, Clarkston Hines, WR, Duke; 10, Mike Lodish,
DT, UCLA; 11, Al Edwards, WR, NW Louisiana;
                            _C_i_n_c_i_n_n_a_t_i
	1, James Francis, LB, Baylor; 2, Cincinnati, Harold Green, RB,
South Carolina; 3, Bernard Clark, LB, Miami; 4, Mike Brennan, T, Notre
Dame; 5, Lynn James, WR, Arizona State; 6, Don Odegard, DB, Nevada-Las
Vegas; 7, Craig Ogletree, LB, Auburn; 8, Doug Wellsandt, TE, Washington
State; 9, Mitchell Price, DB, Tulane; 10, Eric Crigler, T, Murray State;
11, Tim O'Connor, T, Virginia; 12, Andre Riley, WR, Washington.
                            _C_l_e_v_e_l_a_n_d
	2, Leroy Hoard, RB, Michigan; 3, Anthony Pleasant, DE, Tennessee
State; 4, Harlon Barnett, DB, Michigan State; 5, Rob Burnett, DE,
Syracuse; 6, Randy Hilliard, DB, NW Louisiana; 7, Scott Galbraith, TE,
USC; 8, Jock Jones, LB, Virginia Tech; 9, Eugene Rowell, WR, Southern
Mississippi; 10, Michael Wallace, DB, Jackson State; 11, Clemente
Gordon, QB, Grambling; 12, Kerry Simien, WR, Texas A&I.
                              _D_e_n_v_e_r
	2, Alton Montgomery, DB, Houston; 4, Jeroy Robinson, LB, Texas A&M;
5a, Jeff Robinson, G, Ohio State; 5b, Le-Lo Lang, DB, Washington; 6,
Ronnie Haliburton, TE, LSU; 7, Shannon Sharpe, WR, Savannah State; 8,
Brad Leggett, C, USC; 9, Todd Ellis, QB, South Carolina; 10a, James
Szymanski, DE, Michigan State; 10b, Anthony Thompson, LB, East Carolina;
                             _H_o_u_s_t_o_n
	1, Lamar Lathon, LB, Houston; 2, Jeff Alm, DE, Notre Dame; 3,
Willis Peguese, DE, Miami; 4, Eric Still, G, Tennessee; 5, Richard
Newbill, LB, Miami; 6, Tony Jones, WR, Texas; 7, Andy Murray, RB,
Kentucky; 8, Brett Tucker, DB, Northern Illinois; 9, Pat Coleman, WR,
Mississippi; 10, Dee Thomas, DB, Nicholls State; 11, Joey Banes, T,
Houston; 12, Reggie Slack, QB, Auburn.
                           _I_n_d_i_a_n_a_p_o_l_i_s
	1, Jeff George, QB, Illinois; 2, Anthony Johnson, FB, Notre Dame;
4a, Stacey Simmons, WR, Florida; 4b, Bill Schultz, G, USC; 4c, Alan
Grant, DB, Stanford; 4d, Pat Cunningham, T, Texas A&M; 6, Tony Walker,
LB, SE Missouri; 7, James Singletary, LB, East Carolina; 8a, Ken Clark,
RB, Nebraska; 8b, Harvey Wilson, DB, Southern; 9, Darvell Huffman, WR,
Boston U.; 11, Carnel Smith, DE, Pittsburgh; 12a, Gene Benhart, QB,
Western Illinois; 12b, Dean Brown, G, Notre Dame.
                           _K_a_n_s_a_s_ _C_i_t_y
	1, Percy Snow, LB, Michigan State; 2, Tim Grunhard, C-G, Notre
Dame; 4, Fred Jones, WR, Grambling; 5a, Derrick Graham, T, Appalachian
State; 5b, Ken Hackemack, DT, Texas; 6, Tom Sims, DT, Pittsburgh; 7,
Dave Szott, G, Penn State; 9, Michael Owens, RB, Syracuse; 10, Craig
Hudson, TE, Wisconsin; 11, Ernest Thompson, RB, Georgia Southern; 12,
Tony Jeffery, WR, San Jose State.
                            _L_A_ _R_a_i_d_e_r_s
	1, Anthony Smith, DE, Arizona; 2, Aaron Wallace, LB, Texas A&M; 4,
Torin Dorn, DB, North Carolina; 6, Marcus Wilson, RB, Virginia; 7, Garry
Lewis, DB, Alcorn State; 8, Arthur Jimerson, LB, Norfolk State; 9, Leon
Perry, RB, Oklahoma; 11a, Ron Lewis, WR, Jackson State; 11b, Myron
Jones, RB, Fresno State; 12a, Major Harris, QB, West Virginia; 12b,
Demetrius Davis, TE, Nevada-Reno.
	1, Richmond Webb, T, Texas A&M; 2, Keith Sims, G, Iowa State; 3,
Alfred Oglesby, DT, Houston; 4, Scott Mitchell, QB, Utah; 5, Leroy Holt,
RB, USC; 6, Sean Vanhorse, DB, Howard; 8, Thomas Woods, WR, Tennessee;
9, Phil Ross, TE, Oregon State; 12, Bobby Harden, DB, Miami.
                           _N_e_w_ _E_n_g_l_a_n_d
	1a, Chris Singleton, LB, Arizona; 1b, Ray Agnew, DT, North Carolina
St. 3a, Tommy Hodson, QB, LSU; 3b, Greg McMurty, WR, Michigan; 5a,
Junior Robinson, DB, East Carolina; 5b, Jon Melander, T, Minnesota; 5c,
James Gray, RB, Texas Tech. 9, Shawn Bouwens, G, Nebraska Wesleyan; 10,
Anthony Landry, RB, Stephen F. Austin; 11, Sean Smith, DE, Georgia Tech;
12, Ventson Donelson, DB, Michigan State; 12, Blaine Rose, G, Maryland.
                             _N_Y_ _J_e_t_s
	1, Blair Thomas, RB, Penn State; 2, Reggie Rembert, WR, West
Virginia; 3, Tony Stargell, DB, Tennessee State; 4, Troy Taylor, QB,
California; 5a, Tony Savage, DT, Washington State; 5b, Robert McWright,
DB, TCU; 6, Terance Mathis, WR, New Mexico; 7a, Dwayne White, G, Alcorn
State; 7b, Basil Proctor, LB, West Virginia; 8, Roger Duffy, C, Penn
State; 9, Dale Dawkins, WR, Miami; 10, Brad Quast, LB, Iowa; 11, Derrick
Kelson, DB, Purdue; 12, Darrell Davis, DE, Texas Christian.
                            _P_i_t_t_s_b_u_r_g_h
	1, Eric Green, TE, Liberty; 2, Kenny Davidson, DE, LSU; 3a, Neil
O'Donnell, QB, Maryland; 3b, Craig Veasey, DT, Houston; 4, Chris
Calloway, WR, Michigan; 5, Barry Foster, RB, Arkansas; 6, Ronald Heard,
WR, Bowling Green; 7, Dan Grayson, LB, Washington State; 8, Karl Dunbar,
DT, LSU; 9, Gary Jones, DB, Texas A&M; 10, Eddie Miles, LB, Minnesota;
11, Justin Strzelczyk, T, Maine; 12, Richard Bell, RB, Nebraska.
                            _S_a_n_ _D_i_e_g_o
	1, Junior Seau, LB, USC; 3a, Jeff Mills, LB, Nebraska; 3b, Leo
Goeas, G, Hawaii; 3c, Walter Wilson, WR, East Carolina.; 6a, John
Friesz, QB, Idaho; 6b, Frank Cornish, C, UCLA; 6c, David Pool, DB,
Carson-Newman; 6d, Derrick Walker, TE, Michigan; 7a, Jeff Novak, G, SW
Texas State; 7b, Joe Staysniak, T, Ohio State; 7c, Nate Lewis, WR,
Oregon Tech; 7d, Keith Collins, DB, Appalachian State; 8, J.J.
Flannigan, RB, Colorado; 9, Chris Goetz, G, Pittsburgh; 10, Kenny Berry,
DB, Miami; 11, Tommie Stowers, TE, Missouri; 12, Elliott Searcy, WR,
Southern.
                             _S_e_a_t_t_l_e
	1, Cortez Kennedy, DT, Miami; 2a, Terry Wooden, LB, Syracuse; 2b,
Robert Blackmon, DB, Baylor; 4, Chris Warren, RB, Ferrum; 5, Eric Hayes,
DT, Florida State; 6, Ned Bolcar, LB, Notre Dame; 7, Bob Kula, T,
Michigan State; 8, Bill Hitchcock, T, Purdue; 10, Robert Morris, DE,
Valdosta State; 11, Daryl Reed, DB, Oregon; 12, John Gromos, QB,
Vanderbilt.
	_x_ _x_ _x_ _Q_B_,_ _V_a_n_d_e_r_b_i_l_t_.
                               _N_F_C
                             _A_t_l_a_n_t_a
	1, Steve Broussard, RB, Washington State; 2, Darion Conner, LB,
Jackson State; 3, Oliver Barnett, DE, Kentucky; 5, Reggie Redding, TE,
Fullerton State; 6, Mike Pringle, RB, Cal State-Fullerton; 8, Tory Epps,
NT, Memphis State; 9, Darrell Jordan, LB, Northern Arizona; 10, Donnie
Salum, LB, Arizona; 11, Chris Ellison, DB, Houston; 12, Shawn McCarthy,
P, Purdue.
                             _C_h_i_c_a_g_o
	1, Mark Carrier, S, USC; 2a, Fred Washington, DT, TCU; 2b, Ron Cox,
LB, Fresno State; 3a, Tim Ryan, DL, USC; 3b, Peter Tom Willis, QB,
Florida St; 4, Tony Moss, WR, LSU; 5, Pat Chaffey, RB, Oregon State; 6,
John Mangum, DB, Alabama; 7, Bill Anderson, C, Iowa; 8, James Rouse, RB,
Arkansas; 9, Johnny Bailey, RB, Texas A&I; 10, Terry Price, DT, Texas
A&M; 11a, Brent White, DE, Michigan; 11b, Roman Matusz, T, Pittsburgh;
12, Anthony Cooney, DB, Arkansas.
                              _D_a_l_l_a_s
	1, Emmitt Smith, RB, Florida; 2, Alexander Wright, WR, Auburn; 3,
Jimmie Jones, DL, Miami; 5, Stan Smagala, DB, Notre Dame; 9, Kenneth
Gant, DB, Albany State, Ga.; 11, Dave Harper, LB, Humboldt State;
                             _D_e_t_r_o_i_t
	1, Andre Ware, QB, Houston; 2, Dan Owens, DE, USC; 3, Marc
Spindler, DE, Pittsburgh; 4a, Robert Hinckley, LB, Stanford; 4b, Chris
Oldham, DB, Oregon; 5, Jeff Campbell, WR, Colorado; 6, Maurice Henry,
LB, Kansas State; 7, Tracy Hayworth, LB, Tennessee; 8a, Willie Green,
WR, Mississippi; 8b, Roman Fortin, G, San Diego State; 9, Jack Linn, T,
West Virginia; 10, Bill Miller, WR, Illinois State; 11, Reginald
Warnsley, RB, Southern Mississippi; 12, Robert Claiborne, WR, San Diego
State.
                            _G_r_e_e_n_ _B_a_y
	1a, Tony Bennett, LB, Mississippi; 1b, Darrell Thompson, RB,
Minnesota; 2, Leroy Butler, DB, Florida State; 3, Bobby Houston, LB,
North Carolina State; 4, Jackie Harris, TE, Northeast Louisiana; 5,
Charles Wilson, WR, Memphis State; 6, Bryce Paup, LB, Northern Iowa; 7,
Lester Archambeau, DE, Stanford; 8, Roger Brown, DB, Virginia Tech; 9,
Kirk Baumgartner, QB, Wisconsin-Stevens Point; 10, Jerome Martin, DB,
Western Kentucky; 11, Harry Jackson, RB, St. Cloud State; 12, Kirk
Maggio, P, UCLA.
                             _L_A_ _R_a_m_s
	1, Bern Brostek, C, Washington; 2, Pat Terrell, S, Notre Dame; 3,
Latin Berry, RB, Oregon; 6, Tim Stallworth, WR, Washington State; 7,
Kent Elmore, P, Tennessee; 8a, Ray Savage, LB, Virginia; 8b, Elbert
Crawford, C, Arkansas; 9, Tony Lomack, WR, Florida; 10, Steve Bates, DE,
James Madison; 11, Bill Goldberg, DT, Georgia; 12, Dave Lang, RB,
Northern Arizona.
                            _M_i_n_n_e_s_o_t_a
	3a, Mike Jones, TE, Texas A&M; 3b, Marion Hobby, DE, Tennessee; 4,
Alonzo Hampton, DB, Pittsburgh; 5a, Reggie Thornton, WR, Bowling Green;
5b, Cedric Smith, RB, Florida; 7, John Levelis, LB, C.W. Post; 8, Craig
Schlichting, DE, Wyoming; 9, Terry Allen, RB, Clemson; 10a, Pat Newman,
WR, Utah State; 10b, Donald Smith, DB, Liberty; 12, Ron Goetz, LB,
Minnesota.
	1, Renaldo Turnbull, DE, West Virginia; 2, Vince Buck, DB, Central
State (Ohio); 3, Joel Smeenge, DE, Western Michigan; 4, Demond Winston,
LB, Vanderbilt; 5, Charles Arbuckle, TE, UCLA; 6a, Mike Buck, QB, Maine;
6b, James Williams; LB, Mississippi State; 7, Scott Hough, G, Maine; 8a,
Gerry Gdowski, QB, Nebraska; 8b, Derrick Carr, DE, Bowling Green; 9a,
Broderick Graves, RB, Winston-Salem; 9b, Lonnie Brockman, LB, West
Virginia; 10a, Gary Cooper, WR, Clemson; 10b, Ernest Spears, DB, USC;
11, Webbie Burnett, NT, Western Kentucky; 12, Chris Port, G, Duke.
                            _N_Y_ _G_i_a_n_t_s
	1, Rodney Hampton, RB, Georgia; 2, Mike Fox, DT, West Virginia; 3,
Greg Mark, DE, Miami; 4, David Whitmore, DB, Stephen F. Austin; 5, Craig
Kupp, QB, Pacific-Lutheran; 7, Aaron Emanuel, RB, USC; 8, Barry Vorhees,
T, Cal State-Northridge; 9, Clint James, DE, LSU; 10, Otis Moore, DT,
Clemson; 11, Tim Downing, DE, Washington State; 12, Matt Stover, K,
Louisiana Tech.
                           _P_h_i_l_a_d_e_l_p_h_i_a
	1, Ben Smith, CB, Georgia; 2, Mike Bellamy, WR, Illinois; 3, Fred
Barnett, WR, Arkansas State; 5, Calvin Williams, WR, Purdue; 6, Kevin
Thompson, DB, Oklahoma; 7, Terry Strouf, T, Wisconsin-LaCrosse; 8, Curt
Dykes, T, Oregon; 9, Cecil Gray, DT, North Carolina; 10, Orlando Adams,
DT, Jacksonville State; 11a, John Hudson, C, Auburn; 11b, Tyrone Watson,
WR, Tennessee State; 12, Judd Garrett, RB, Princeton.
                             _P_h_o_e_n_i_x
	2, Anthony Thompson, RB, Indiana; 3, Richard Proehl, WR, Wake
Forest; 4, Travis Davis, DT, Michigan State; 5, Larry Centers, RB,
Stephen F. Austin; 6, Tyrone Shavers, WR, Lamar; 8, Mickey Washington,
DB, Texas A&M; 9, David Bavaro, LB, Syracuse; 10, Dave Elle, TE, South
Dakota; 11, Dempsey Norman, WR, St. Francis, Ill.; 12a, Donnie Riley,
RB, Central Michigan; 12b, Ken McMichel, LB, Oklahoma.
                          _S_a_n_ _F_r_a_n_c_i_s_c_o
	1, Dexter Carter, RB, Florida State; 2a, Dennis Brown, DT,
Washington; 2b, Eric Davis, DB, Jacksonville State; 3, Ron Willis, WR,
Florida St.; 4, Dean Caliguire, C, Pittsburgh; 6, Frank Pollack, T,
Northern Arizona; 8, Dwight Pickens, WR, Fresno State; 9, Odell Haggins,
DT, Florida State; 10, Martin Harrison, DE, Washington; 11, Anthony
Shelton, DB, Tennessee State;
                            _T_a_m_p_a_ _B_a_y
	1, Keith McCants, LB, Alabama; 2, Reggie Cobb, RB, Tennessee; 4a,
Jesse Anderson, TE, Mississippi State; 4b, Tony Mayberry, C, Wake
Forest; 5, Ian Beckles, G, Indiana. 6, Derrick Douglas, RB, Louisiana
Tech; 7, Donnie Gardner, DE, Kentucky; 9, Terry Cook, DE, Fresno State;
10, Mike Busch, TE, Iowa State; 11, Terry Anthony, WR, Florida State;
12, Todd Hammel, QB, Stephen F. Austin.
                            _W_a_s_h_i_n_g_t_o_n
	2, Andre Collins, LB, Penn State; 3, Mohammed Elewonibi, G, Brigham
Young; 4a, Cary Conklin, QB, Washington; 4b, Rico Labbe, DB, Boston
College; 5, Brian Mitchell, RB, Southwest Louisiana; 6, Kent Wells, DT,
Nebraska; 9, Tim Moxley, G, Ohio State; 10a, D'Juan Francisco, DB, Notre
Dame; 10b, Thomas Rayam, DT, Alabama; 11, Jon Leverenz, LB, Minnesota;
	_e_n_d

(From Clarinews)

Subject: NFL Round-By-Round Draft List
 
	NEW YORK (UPI) -- Round-by-round list of Sunday's NFL draft (listing
pick, team, player, position and school):
                           _F_i_r_s_t_ _r_o_u_n_d
	1, Dallas (used selection in 1989 supplemental draft). 2,
Indianapolis (from Atlanta), Jeff George, QB, Illinois. 3, New York
Jets, Blair Thomas, RB, Penn State. 4, Phoenix (used selection in 1989
supplemental draft). 5, Seattle (from New England), Cortez Kennedy, DT,
Miami. 6, Tampa Bay, Keith McCants, LB, Alabama. 7, San Diego, Junior
Seau, LB, USC. 8, Chicago, Mark Carrier, S, USC. 9, Detroit, Andre Ware,
QB, Houston. 10, New England (from Seattle),  Chris Singleton, LB,
Arizona. 11, Miami, Richmond Webb, T, Texas A&M. 12, New England (from
Indianapolis through Seattle), Ray Agnew, DT, North Carolina St. 13. Los
Angeles Raiders, Anthony Smith, DE, Arizona. 14, Cincinnati, James
Francis, LB, Baylor.
	15, Kansas City, Percy Snow, LB, Michigan State. 16, New Orleans,
Renaldo Turnbull, DE, West Virginia. 17, Houston, Lamar Lathon, LB,
Houston. 18, Buffalo, J.D. Williams, CB, Fresno State. 19, Dallas (from
Pittsburgh), Emmitt Smith, RB, Florida. 20, Green Bay (from Cleveland),
Tony Bennett, LB, Mississippi. 21, Green Bay, Darrell Thompson, RB,
Minnesota. 22, Atlanta (from Washington), Steve Broussard, RB,
Washington State. 23, Pittsburgh (from Minnesota through Dallas), Eric
Green, TE, Liberty. 24, Philadelphia, Ben Smith, CB, Georgia. 25, Los
Angeles Rams, Bern Brostek, C, Washington. 26, New York Giants, Rodney
Hampton, RB, Georgia. 27, Denver (used selecton in 1989 supplemental
draft). 28, San Francisco, Dexter Carter, RB, Florida State.
                           _S_e_c_o_n_d_ _R_o_u_n_d
	29, Dallas, Alexander Wright, WR, Auburn. 30, Atlanta, Darion
Conner, LB, Jackson State. 31, NY Jets, Reggie Rembert, WR, West
Virginia. 32, Seattle (from New England), Terry Wooden, LB, Syracuse.
33, Tampa Bay, Reggie Cobb, RB, Tennessee. 34, Phoenix, Anthony
Thompson, RB, Indiana. 35, Chicago, Fred Washington, DT, TCU. 36,
Chicago (from San Diego), Ron Cox, LB, Fresno State. 37, Seattle, Robert
Blackmon, DB, Baylor. 38, Detroit, Dan Owens, DE, USC. 39, Indianapolis,
Anthony Johnson, FB, Notre Dame. 40, LA Raiders, Aaron Wallace, LB,
Texas A&M. 41, Cincinnati, Harold Green, RB, South Carolina. 42, Miami,
Keith Sims, G, Iowa State.
	43, Kansas City, Tim Grunhard, C-G, Notre Dame. 44, Houston, Jeff
Alm, DE, Notre Dame. 45, Buffalo, Carwell Gardner, FB, Louisville. 46,
Pittsburgh, Kenny Davidson, DE, LSU. 47, New Orleans, Vince Buck, DB,
Central State (Ohio). 48, Cleveland, Leroy Hoard, RB, Michigan. 49,
Washington, Andre Collins, LB, Penn State. 50, San Francisco (from
Minnesota through Dallas),   Dennis Brown, DT, Washington. 51, Green
Bay, Leroy Butler, DB, Florida State. 52, LA Rams, Pat Terrell, S, Notre
Dame. 53, Philadelphia, Mike Bellamy, WR, Illinois. 54, NY Giants, Mike
Fox, DT, West Virginia. 55, Denver, Alton Montgomery, DB, Houston. 56,
San Francisco, Eric Davis, DB, Jacksonville State.
                           _T_h_i_r_d_ _r_o_u_n_d
	57, Minnesota (from Dallas), Mike Jones, TE, Texas A&M. 58,
Atlanta, Oliver Barnett, DE, Kentucky. 59, NY Jets, Tony Stargell, DB,
Tennessee State. 60,  San Diego (from Tampa Bay), Jeff Mills, LB,
Nebraska. 61, Phoenix, Richard Proehl, WR, Wake Forest. 62, New England,
Tommy Hodson, QB, LSU. 63, San Diego , Leo Goeas, G, Hawaii. 64,
Chicago, Tim Ryan, DL, USC. 65, Detroit, Marc Spindler, DE, Pittsburgh.
66, Dallas (from Seattle through New England), Jimmie Jones, DL, Miami.
67, Chicago (from LA Raiders), Peter Tom Willis, QB, Florida St. 68,
Cincinnati, Bernard Clark, LB, Miami. 69, Miami, Alfred Oglesby, DT,
Houston. 70, San Diego (from Indianapolis), Walter Wilson, WR, East
Carolina.
	71, San Francisco (from Kansas City through Dallas), Ron Willis,
WR, Florida St. 72, Buffalo, Glenn Parker, T, Arizona. 73, Pittsburgh,
Neil O'Donnell, QB, Maryland. 74, New Orleans,  Joel Smeenge, DE,
Western Michigan. 75, Houston,   Willis Peguese, DE, Miami. 76,
Cleveland, Anthony Pleasant, DE, Tennessee St. 77, Minnesota, Marion
Hobby, DE, Tennessee. 78, Green Bay, Bobby Houston, LB, North Carolina
St. 79, Washington, Mohammed Elewonibi, G, Brigham Young. 80, 
Philadelphia, Fred Barnett, WR, Arkansas St. 81, LA Rams, Latin Berry,
RB, Oregon. 82. NY Giants, Greg Mark, DE, Miami. 83, New England (from
Denver through Dallas, Greg McMurty, WR, Michigan. 84, Pittsburgh (from
San Francisco through Dallas), Craig Veasey, DT, Houston.
	85, Denver (from Dallas), Jeroy Robinson, LB, Texas A&M. 86,
Indianapolis (from Atlanta), Stacey Simmons, WR, Florida. 87, NY Jets,
Troy Taylor, QB, California. 88, Phoenix Travis Davis, DT, Michigan
State. 89, Washington (from New England), Cary Conklin, QB, Washington.
90, Tampa Bay, Jesse Anderson, TE, Mississippi State. 91, Chicago, Tony
Moss, WR, LSU. 92, San Francisco (from San Diego through LA Raiders),
Dean Caliguire, C, Pittsburgh. 93, Seattle, Chris Warren, RB, Ferrum.
94, Detroit, Robert Hinckley, LB, Stanford. 95,   Cincinnati, Mike
Brennan, T, Notre Dame. 96, Miami, Scott Mitchell, QB, Utah. 97,
Indianapolis, Bill Schultz, G, USC. 98. LA Raiders, Torin Dorn, DB,
North Carolina.
	99, Kansas City, Fred Jones, WR, Grambling. 100, Pittsburgh, Chris
Calloway, WR, Michigan. 101, New Orleans, Demond Winston, LB,
Vanderbilt. 102, Houston, Eric Still, G, Tennessee. 103, Buffalo, Eddie
Fuller, RB, LSU. 104, Cleveland,  Harlon Barnett, DB, Michigan State.
105, Green Bay, Jackie Harris, TE, Northeast Louisiana. 106,
Indianapolis (from Washington), Alan Grant, DB, Stanford. 107,
Minnesota, Alonzo Hampton, DB, Pittsburgh. 108, Detroit (from LA Rams),
Chris Oldham, DB, Oregon. 109, Indianapolis (from Philadelphia), Pat
Cunningham, T, Texas A&M. 110, NY Giants, David Whitmore, DB, Stephen F.
Austin. 111, Tampa Bay (from Denver), Tony Mayberry, C, Wake Forest.
112, Washington (from San Francisco through LA Raiders), Rico Labbe, DB,
Boston College.
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	113, New England (from Dallas through Washington), Junior Robinson,
DB, East Carolina. 114, Denver (from Atlanta through Washington and New
England),     Jeff Davidson, G, Ohio State. 115, NY Jets, Tony Savage,
DT, Washington State. 116, New England, Jon Melander, T, Minnesota. 117,
Tampa Bay, Ian Beckles, G, Indiana. 118, Phoenix, Larry Centers, RB,
Stephen F. Austin. 119, Minnesota (from San Diego through Dallas),
Reggie Thornton, WR, Bowling Green. 120, Chicago, Pat Chaffey, RB,
Oregon State. 121, Detroit, Jeff Campbell, WR, Colorado. 122, Seattle,
Eric Hayes, DT, Florida State. 123, New England (from Miami through
Dallas), James Gray, RB, Texas Tech. 124, Atlanta (from Indianapolis),
Reggie Redding, TE, Fullerton State. 125, Cincinnati, Lynn James, WR,
Arizona State. 126, Dallas (from LA Raiders), Stan Smagala, DB, Notre
Dame.
	127, Kansas City, Derrick Graham, T, Appalachian State. 128, New
Orleans, Charles Arbuckle, TE, UCLA. 129, Houston, Richard Newbill, LB,
Miami. 130, Kansas City (from Buffalo), Ken Hackemack, DT, Texas. 131,
Pittsburgh, Barry Foster, RB, Arkansas. 132, Cleveland, Rob Burnett, DE,
Syracuse. 133, Washington, Brian Mitchell, RB, Southwest Louisiana. 134,
Minnesota, Cedric Smith, RB, Florida. 135, Green Bay, Charles Wilson,
WR, Memphis State. 136, Philadelphia, Calvin Williams, WR, Purdue. 137,
NY Jets (from LA Rams), Robert McWright, DB, TCU. 138, NY Giants, Craig
Kupp, QB, Pacific-Lutheran. 139, Denver, Le-Lo Lang, DB, Washington.
140, Miami (from San Francisco through Washington), Leroy Holt, RB, USC.
                           _S_i_x_t_h_ _R_o_u_n_d
	141, San Diego (from Dallas), John Friesz, QB, Idaho. 142, Atlanta,
Mike Pringle, RB, Fullerton State. 143, NY Jets, Terance Mathis, WR, New
Mexico. 144, Tampa Bay, Derrick Douglas, RB, Louisiana Tech. 145,
Phoenix, Tyrone Shavers, WR, Lamar. 146,  San Diego (from New England
through Dallas), Frank Cornish, C, UCLA. 147, Chicago, John Mangum, DB,
Alabama. 148, San Diego,  David Pool, DB, Carson Newman. 149, Seattle,
Ned Bolcar, LB, Notre Dame. 150, Detroit, Maurice Henry, LB, Kansas
State. 151, Indianapolis, Tony Walker, LB, Southeast Missouri State.
152, LA Raiders, Marcus Wilson, RB, Virginia. 153, Cincinnati, Don
Odegard, DB, UNLV.
	154, Miami, Sean Vanhorse, DB, Howard. 155, Kansas City, Tom Sims,
DT, Pittsburgh. 156, Houston, Tony Jones, WR, Texas. 157, Buffalo, John
Niess, P, Arizona. 158, Pittsburgh, Ronald Heard, WR, Bowling Green.
159, New Orleans, Mike Buck, QB, Maine. 160, Cleveland, Randy Hilliard,
QB, Northwestern Louisiana. 161, New Orleans (from Minnesota through
Dallas and LA Raiders),    James Williams, LB, Mississippi State. 162,
Green Bay, Bryce Paup, LB, Northern Iowa. 163, Washington, Kent Wells,
DT, Nebraska. 164, LA Rams, Tim Stallworth, WR, Washington State. 165,
Philadelphia, Kevin Thompson, DB, Oklahoma. 166, San Diego (from NY
Giants through Dallas), Derrick Walker, TE, Michigan. 167, Denver,
Ronnie Haliburton, TE, LSU. 168, San Francisco, Frank Pollack, T,
Northern Arizona.
	169, Buffalo (from Dallas through New England), Brent Griffith, G,
Minnesota-Duluth. 170, NY Jets (from Atlanta), Dwayne White, G, Alcorn
State. 171, NY Jets, Basil Proctor, LB, West Virginia. 172, Phoenix,
Johnny Johnson, RB, San Jose State. 173, Buffalo (from New England),
Brent Collins, LB, Carson-Newman. 174, Tampa Bay, Donnie Gardner, DE,
Kentucky. 175, San Diego, Jeff Novak, G, SW Texas State. 176, LA Raiders
(from Chicago), Garry Lewis, DB, Alcorn State. 177, Detroit, Tracy
Hayworth, LB, Tennessee. 178, Seattle, Bob Kula, T, Michigan State. 179,
Chicago (from LA Raiders), Bill Anderson, G, Iowa. 180, Cincinnati,
Craig Ogletree, LB, Auburn. 181, Cleveland (from Miami), Scott
Galbraith, TE, USC. 182, Indianapolis, James Singletary, LB, East
Carolina.
	183, Kansas City, Dave Szott, G, Penn State. 184, Buffalo, Fred De
Riggi, DT, Syracuse. 185, Pittsburgh, Dan Grayson, LB, Washington State.
186, New Orleans, Scott Hough, G, Maine. 187, Houston, Andy Murray, RB,
Kentucky. 188, San Diego (from Cleveland), Joe Staysniak, T, Ohio State.
189, Green Bay, Lester Archambeau, DE, Stanford. 190, San Diego (from
Washington), Nathaniel Lewis, WR, Oregon Tech. 191, Minnesota, John
Levelis, LB, C.W. Post. 192, Philadelphia, Terry Strouf, G,
Wisconsin-LaCrosse. 193, LA Rams, Kent Elmore, P, Tennessee. 194, NY
Giants, Aaron Emanuel, RB, USC. 195, Denver, Shannon Sharpe, WR,
Savannah State. 196, San Diego (from San Francisco), Keith Collins, DB,
Appalachian State.
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	197, Detroit (from Dallas), Willie Green, WR, Mississippi. 198,
Atlanta, Tory Epps, NT, Memphis State. 199, NY Jets, Roger Duffy, C,
Penn State. 200, LA Raiders (from New England through Dallas), Arthur
Jimerson, LB, Norfolk State. 201, LA Rams (from Tampa Bay), Ray Savage,
LB, Virginia. 202, Phoenix, Mickey Washington, DB, Texas A&M. 203,
Chicago, James Rouse, RB, Arkansas. 204, San Diego, J.J. Flannigan, RB,
Colorado. 205, Seattle, Bill Hitchcock, T, Purdue. 206, Detroit, Roman
Fortin, G, San Diego State. 207, Cincinnati, Doug Wellsandt, TE,
Washington State. 208, Miami, Thomas Woods, WR, Tennessee. 209,
Indianapolis, Ken Clark, RB, Nebraska. 210, New Orleans (from LA
Raiders), Gerry Gdowski, QB, Nebraska.
	211, Buffalo (from Kansas City), Marcus Patton, LB, UCLA. 212,
Pittsburgh, Karl Dunbar, DT, LSU. 213, New Orleans, Derrick Carr, DE,
Bowling Green. 214, Houston, Brett Tucker, DB, Nothern Illinois. 215,
Buffalo (used selection in 1989 supplemental draft). 216, Cleveland,
Jock Jones, LB, Virginia Tech. 217, Indianapolis (from Washington),
Harvey Wilson, DB, Southern. 218, Minnesota, Craig Schlichting, DE,
Wyoming. 219, Green Bay, Roger Brown, DB, Virginia Tech. 220, LA Rams,
Elbert Crawford, C, Arkansas. 221, Philadelphia, Curt Dykes, T, Oregon.
222, NY Giants, Barry Vorhees, T, Cal State-Northridge. 223, Denver,
Brad Leggett, C, USC. 224, San Francisco, Dwight Pickens, WR, Fresno
State.
                           _N_i_n_t_h_ _R_o_u_n_d
	225, Dallas, Kenneth Gant, DB, Albany State, Ga. 226, Atlanta,
Darrell Jordan, LB, Northern Arizona. 227, NY Jets, Dale Dawkins, WR,
Miami. 228, Tampa Bay, Terry Cook, DE, Fresno State. 229, Phoenix, David
Bavaro, LB, Syracuse. 230, New England, Shawn Bouwens, G, Nebraska
Wesleyan. 231, San Diego, Chris Goetz, G, Pittsburgh. 232, Chicago,
Johnny Bailey, RB, Texas A&I. 233, Detroit, Jack Linn, T, West Virginia.
234, LA Raiders (from Seattle through Dallas), Leon Perry, RB, Oklahoma.
235, Miami, Phil Ross, TE, Oregon State. 236, Indianapolis, Darvell
Huffman, WR, Boston U. 237, New Orleans (from LA Raiders), Broderick
Graves, RB, Winston-Salem. 238, Cincinnati, Mitchell Price, DB, Tulane.
	239, Kansas City, Michael Owens, RB, Syracuse. 240, New Orleans,
Lonnie Brockman, LB, West Virginia. 241, Houston, Pat Coleman, WR,
Mississippi. 242, Buffalo, Clarkston Hines, WR, Duke. 243, Pittsburgh,
Gary Jones, DB, Texas A&M. 244, Cleveland, Eugene Powell, WR, Southern
Mississippi. 245, Minnesota, Terry Allen, RB, Clemson. 246, Green Bay,
Kirk Baumgartner, QB, Wisconsin-Stevens Point. 247, Washington, Tim
Morley, G, Ohio State. 248, Philadelphia, Cecil Gray, DT, North
Carolina. 249, LA Rams, Tony Lomack, WR, Florida. 250, NY Giants, Clint
James, DE, LSU. 251, Denver, Todd Ellis, QB, South Carolina. 252, San
Francisco, Odell Haggins, DT, Florida State.
	253, Minnesota (from Dallas), Pat Newman, WR, Utah State. 254,
Atlanta, Donnie Salum, LB, Arizona. 255, NY Jets, Brad Quast, LB, Iowa.
256, Phoenix, Dave Elle, TE, South Dakota. 257, New England, Anthony
Landry, RB, Stephen F. Austin. 258, Tampa Bay, Mike Busch, TE, Iowa
State. 259, Chicago, Terry Price, DT, Texas A&M. 260, San Diego, Kenny
Berry, DB, Miami. 261, Seattle, Robert Morris, DE, Valdosta State. 262,
Detroit, Bill Miller, WR, Illinois State. 263, Denver (from Indianapolis
through LA Raiders and Dallas), James Szymanski, DE, Michigan State.
264, New Orleans (from LA Raiders), Gary Cooper, WR, Clemson. 265,
Cincinnati, Eric Crigler, T, Murray State. 266, Washington (from Miami),
D'Juan Francisco, DB, Notre Dame.
	267, Kansas City, Craig Hudson, TE, Wisconsin. 268, Houston, Dee
Thomas, DB, Nicholls State. 269, Buffalo, Mike Lodish, DT, UCLA. 270,
Pittsburgh, Eddie Miles, LB, Minnesota. 271, New Orleans, Ernest Spears,
DB, USC. 272, Cleveland, Michael Wallace, DB, Jackson State. 273, Green
Bay, Jerome Martin, DB, Western Kentucky. 274, Washington, Thomas Rayam,
DT, Alabama. 275, Minnesota, Donald Smith, DB, Liberty. 276, LA Rams,
Steve Bates, DE, James Madison. 277, Philadelphia, Orlando Adams, DT,
Jacksonville State. 278, NY Giants, Otis Moore, DT, Clemson. 279,
Denver, Anthony Thompson, LB, East Carolina. 280, San Francisco, Martin
Harrison, DE, Washington.
                          _E_l_e_v_e_n_t_h_ _R_o_u_n_d
	281, Dallas, Dave Harper, LB, Humboldt State. 282, Atlanta, Chris
Ellison, DB, Houston. 283, NY Jets, Derrick Kelson, DB, Purdue. 284, New
England, Sean Smith, DE, Georgia Tech. 285, Tampa Bay, Terry Anthony,
WR, Florida State. 286, Phoenix, Dempsey Norman, WR, St. Francis, Ill.
287, San Diego, Tommie Stowers, TE, Missouri. 288, Chicago, Brent White,
DE, Michigan. 289, Detroit, Reginald Warnsley, RB, Southern Mississippi.
290, Seattle, Daryl Reed, DB, Oregon. 291, New Orleans (from LA
Raiders), Webbie Burnett, NT, Western Kentucky. 292, Cincinnati, Tim
O'Connor, T, Virginia. 293, San Francisco (from Miami), Anthony Shelton,
DB, Tennessee State. 294, Indianapolis, Carnel Smith, DE, Pittsburgh.
	295, Kansas City, Ernest Thompson, RB, Georgia Southern. 296,
Buffalo, Al Edwards, WR, NW Louisiana. 297, Pittsburgh, Justin
Strzelczyk, T, Maine. 298, Philadelphia (from New Orleans), John Hudson,
C, Auburn. 299, Houston, Joey Banes, T, Houston. 300, Cleveland,
Clemente Gordon, QB, Grambling. 301, Washington, Jon Leverenz, LB,
Minnesota. 302, Chicago (from Minnesota through LA Raiders), Roman
Matusz, T, Pittsburgh. 303, Green Bay, Harry Jackson, RB, St. Cloud
State. 304, Philadelphia, Tyrone Watson, WR, Tennessee State. 305, LA
Rams, Bill Goldberg, DT, Georgia. 306, NY Giants, Tim Downing, DE,
Washington State. 307, LA Raiders (from Denver), Ron Lewis, WR, Jackson
State. 308, LA Raiders (from San Francisco), Myron Jones, RB, Fresno
State.
                            _1_2_t_h_ _R_o_u_n_d
	309, Dallas (used selection in 1989 supplemental draft). 310,
Atlanta, Shawn McCarthy, P, Purdue. 311, NY Jets, Darrell Davis, DE,
Texas Chrisitian. 312, Tampa Bay, Todd Hammel, QB, Stephen F. Austin.
313, Phoenix, Donnie Riley, RB, Central Michigan. 314, New England,
Ventson Donelson, DB, Michigan State. 315, Chicago, Anthony Cooney, DB,
Arkansas. 316, Indianapolis (from San Diego), Gene Benhart, QB, Western
Illinois. 317, Seattle, John Gromos, QB, Vanderbilt. 318, Detroit,
Robert Claiborne, WR, San Diego State. 319, Cincinnati, Andre Riley, WR,
Washington. 320, Miami, Bobby Harden, DB, Miami. 321, Indianapolis, Dean
Brown, G, Notre Dame. 322, LA Raiders, Major Harris, QB, West Virginia.
	323, Kansas City, Tony Jeffery, WR, San Jose State. 324,
Pittsburgh, Richard Bell, RB, Nebraska. 325, New Orleans, Chris Port, G,
Duke. 326, Houston, Reggie Slack, QB, Auburn. 327, New England (from
Buffalo), Blaine Rose, G, Maryland. 328, Cleveland, Kerry Simien, WR,
Texas A&I. 329, Minnesota, Ron Goetz, LB, Minnesota. 330, Green Bay,
Kirk Maggio, P, UCLA. 331, San Diego (from Washington), Elliott Searcy,
WR, Southern. 332, Philadelphia, Judd Garrett, RB, Princeton. 333, LA
Rams, Dave Lang, RB, Northern Arizona. 334, NY Giants, Matt Stover, K,
Louisiana Tech. 335, Phoenix (from Denver), Ken McMichel, LB, Oklahoma.
336, LA Raiders (from San Francisco), Demetrius Davis, TE, Nevada-Reno.
_e_n_d_ _d_r_a_f_t_ _l_i_s_t

    Reggie Slack went in the 12th round to Houston. That's at least
    5 rounds too late, but I'm glad he's an Oiler. 

(From Clarinews)

Subject: NFL Draft Breakdown
 
	Defensive backs, 50. Linebackers, 47. Wide receivers, 46. Running
backs, 45. Defensive ends, 27. Defensive tackles, 23. Quarterbacks and
tackles, 20 each. Guards, 19. Tight ends, 16. Centers, 10. Punters, 4.
Nose tackles, 3. Kickers, 1.
                          _B_y_ _C_o_n_f_e_r_e_n_c_e
	1, Independents, 79. 2, Pacific 10, 43. 3, Southeastern, 37. 4, Big
Ten, 30. 5, Southwest, 27. 6, Atlantic Coast, 17. 7, Big Eight, 14. 8,
Big West, 11. 9, Southwestern Athletic, 9. 10, Southland, 8.
                            _B_y_ _C_o_l_l_e_g_e
	1, Southern Cal, 10. 2 (tie), Notre Dame and Miami, 9. 4, Texas
A&M, 8. 5 (tie), Florida State, Houston, Louisiana State, Pittsburgh and
West Virginia, 7. 10 (tie), Michigan State, Tennessee, Washington and
Washington State, 6. 14 (tie), Arizona, Fresno State, Minnesota,
Nebraska, Syracuse and UCLA, 5.

(From Clarinews)

Subject: Major Harris says he never expected to get drafted
 
	NEW YORK (UPI) -- Major Harris, selected in the final round of the
NFL draft, Tuesday said he was only surprised that he was drafted at
all.
	Harris nearly led West Virginia to a national title as a sophomore
and finished among the top five Heisman Trophy candidates the last two
years, but was the 19th quarterback selected. The Los Angeles Raiders
spent the 317th pick of the 331-selection draft on him.
	Harris said he is sure he can play in the NFL, but sensed a lot of
doubts among the 28 teams.
	``I didn't think I would get drafted, I could just tell,'' he said.
``I never got a phone call from an NFL team in my life.
	``It's kind of ironic, a guy up for the Heisman two years in a row,
who they said did everything, could get all this negative press all at
once ... that he couldn't make it. After three years of starting there,
all I heard was I don't belong.''
	NFL scouts say Harris' style is better suited to the wide open
Canadian Football League, where he might end up. The British Columbia
Lions own his CFL rights.
	Harris applied for the NFL draft as a junior. He was the second
player in NCAA history to pass for 5,000 yards and run for 2,000.
	``I did that in three years and if I stayed another year, I would
have done something else that no one's ever done,'' he said. ``I knew it
wasn't going to be based on ability but it's so funny -- I'm getting the
most publicity. If I wasn't good enough to go higher than 12th, then how
come everyone's talking about it so much?''
	The Mountaineers lost to Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl following
the 1988 season when Harris was a sophomore and finished fifth in
Heisman voting. He was third last year.
	``He took a team that was not even on the map and made them TV's
darlings,'' said his agent, Ed Abram.
	Before the draft, all Harris heard was negative. He is considered
short for an NFL quarterback at 6-foot and his powerful arm was knocked
as inaccurate. The freewheeling that made him so exciting in college
makes him a liability among structured NFL offenses.
	``All I know is you give him the ball and points go on the board,''
West Virginia Coach Don Nehlen said.
	Despite that endorsement, Nehlen and Harris have been perceived to
be at odds. Harris and Abram said they heard that Nehlen gave NFL scouts
poor reports on Harris. Nehlen denies that, and Harris and Abram say it
doesn't matter.
	``A lot of people say he hurt me but I didn't dwell on it,'' Harris
said. ``He's probably mad because I didn't stay.''
	Harris says lasting until the 12th round did not shake his
confidence. But he takes no solace in getting drafted by the Raiders, a
team known for taking chances on players other NFL teams pass on.
	Also, the Raiders' Art Shell is the only black head coach in a
league that is known for trying to turn black college quarterbacks into
defensive backs and receivers.
	``I don't look at it like a last chance -- what difference does it
make what round a guy goes in -- and I don't look at it like I need a
team that gives last chances,'' he said. ``I kind of look at it like
whoever wants to win will give me a chance and whoever gives me a
chance, will win.
	``It was probably a smart move on their part -- they got the best
available player in the draft on the last round.''
	Even British Columbia Lions spokesman Doug Griffing said ``We're
aware of their (Raiders) history.
	``Of the 28, they're more apt to give a 12th-round choice a shot
than other teams.''
	Harris said he had no contact with anyone from the NFL until
Raiders Coach Art Shell phoned Monday night to tell him he was drafted.
Harris said he would be happy to go the Raiders' mini-camp but expects
to play in Canada.
	``If I had dreams, it was to play football,'' said the Pittsburgh
native who grew up a Cleveland Browns fan. ``It was never for what
team.''
	The Raiders would hold Harris' NFL rights for four years if he
plays in Canada, but it sounds like Shell is keeping an open mind.
	``All this guy has done is win,'' Shell said. ``He stayed on the
board for a long time and we felt this guy was deserving to go higher
than we picked him. We feel he is a quality individual who knows how to
win football games. He's a winner, he has escape ability and a strong
arm.''
	Abram said he was expecting to talk with the Raiders soon and in
negotiations with the Lions was looking for $1.5 million over three
years.

    I am not saying that Harris being black has anything to do with it, but
    in a few years we may very very very very likely see that Harris turns
    out to be a much much much much better player than Jeff George.  Then,
    Harris will be the one laughing, George will be the one laughing too
    (he got the money) and the only one sorry will be....the Colts.
    
    Charles

    	George's stock shot up after he was impressive in the workouts.
    Personally I don't think those workouts tell you anything except
    a guy can look impressive working out.  Practice heros.  Or in this
    case practice millionaire.
    
    				/Don

    
    Is there an echo echo echo echo in here?
    

   	Why didn't Dee Dowis get drafted?

   Here's a college quarterback that runs and passes for record yardage,
   leads his team into the top twenty in the nation, then draft day and
   what? Nothing. He'd be out of the Airforce in a few years, but does
   anybody care? NoooOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooo!

   Very suspicious that he is a media hero one day, and suddenly nobody is
   interested in him come draft day. I think it's because he's white.

   Mike JN

    I think it was because :
    
    1) He's a wishbone QB who throws maybe 8 passes a game. He *ran*
    for record yardage, but passing ? heh heh heh ...
    
    and
    
    2) He played for the Air Force. Dee is going to be fying missions
    over Beruit (or something) the next four years.
    
    re George,
    
    Until a month ago, Andre Ware was the best QB in the nation. HAnds
    down, no questions asked. He had the numbers to back it up. Then
    supposedly, his arm wasn't as strong a peole thought (SAY WHAT ?),
    he played in a R&S (didn't stop Lomax or Kelly, and quite a few
    NFL teams have elements of it in their offense) ect etc ect ...
    
    Then all of a sudden Jeff George becomes The Messiah .... give me
    a break. 
    
    George might be good, but Indy gave up too much for him. They fell
    for the shitck hook, line, and sinker ....
    
    Go Andre !!!!

    Actually, there were questions about Andre Ware for much longer
    than the last few weeks.  I don't know if either George or Ware
    will be much more than average.  I believe since Ware played in
    a run n shoot, it was questioned about whether or not he could play
    a more conservative style.  hey, he may be the next Joe Montana
    - or the next Sonny Sixkiller.  One thing you have to remember is
    that quarterbacks are rated highly on the type of game they played
    in college.  The Run n Shoot is not yet, thankfully, a full fledged
    pro offense - just like the wishbone and option aren't.  QBs from
    those programs usually have more questions than those from pro set
    offenses.  And it ain't just QB's.  Look at Tom Rathman.  5 career
    catches in college.  Had a 'no hands/bad hands' rap.  he caught
    70+ passes last year.  I could go on and on.  
    
    JD

    The scouting combines hold these workouts and it gives the scouts
    and coaches more reasons to be negative than positive about a player.
    Like I've said many times, the longer you check out a prospective
    player, the more you find wrong with him.
    
    Still Paralysis by Analysis.
    
    John

    Has anyone mentioned or heard in here what Ditka and the Bears were
    doing on draft day?
    
    From what I heard, Ditka was calling the perspective pick and insisting he
    verbally agree to sign a contract before training camp or else the Bears
    would not draft him.  Ditka wanted no holdouts in camp.  In the first
    round, he wanted Ray Agnew out of NC State.  Agnew said he would not
    verbally agree to a contract, so the Bears took Marc Carrier out of USC
    who said he would sign a contract.  Carrier was not a considered a 
    first-rounder, but since he agreed to sign, Ditka took him.  
    
    I have mixed feelings about this.  Is Ditka hurting the team by not
    drafting the best available, or is he helping the team by drafting
    rookies who will be there from day one and not cry over a few thousand
    in a $100+ thousand contract?
    
    	--dan'l

    re: Dowis...
    
    Just in case you're serious...
    
    If I remember correctly, Dowis is slated for pilot training.  The
    commitment for AF pilots is now 9 years (including pilot training) as
    opposed to the 5 years that Staubach, McConkey, and other service
    academy graduates have put in.  9 years is a long time to wait.

   A couple weeks ago, Dee Dowis was at the opening of a Sports Cards
   store in Castle Rock signing autographs. I took my kid in, and stopped
   to talk to Dee for a bit. He said he is going to stay on at the Academy
   in a Coaching capacity. Not bad duty, hey?

   Re: Ditka
   	I like it.

   Mike JN

    Didn't Marty Loutham do that also a couple of years ago...stay on as a
    quarterback coach for Bart Weiss for a year or so before heading into
    Pilot Training?  
    
    Who says jocks at the AFA don't get special deals!  Can't beat that.

    Whoa!  Nine years?  I thought it was 7 (including flight school)
    no matter flavor of the service you're in.
    
    Claybone

Lasted I knew Claybone, the commitment was 5 years, starting after
flight school if any.

The interesting story with Phil McConkey was that Conks was a chopper
pilot.  After his training (fergit how long) he was assigned to sea
duty.  Well, here's this pilot who never gets airsick, but he gets
wicked seasick.

So the Navy futzed around, and after four years of his commitment
it was generally agreed that he'd be excused from the last year
of it due to his seasickness.  He had a tryout with the Giants
and made the team.

Then the Navy decided he'd have to do his fifth year.  So, back in
the Navy for another year.  Following that, he tried out with
the Giants again and made it again.

Now, he's running for Congress....

Chainsaw

    	Hey 'Saw, speaking of McKlunkey I heard a political ad on WFAN
    for him the other morning.  Seems he's running for office.  That's
    the only kind of running he could ever do.  8^)
    
    				/Don

    'Saw,
    
    	There is nothing *interesting* about Phil McConkey...;^)
    
    Claybone

Gee, seems to me he managed to run pretty well through the 
Donkeys secondary in the 1986 Super Bowl.  You know, the first
of Elways big choke jobs...surely you haven't forgotten.

Yes, he is running for Congress.  Someone told me he had a pretty
witty reason why, but I can't remember what it was.  Something about
it being easier than returning punts for the Giants 8^)

I have to respect the guy, because it isn't easy not to play ball for
five years and then to make a team....

'Saw

    re: last few.
    
    The flight training commitment in the AF (don't know about the Navy)
    has gone up a couple of times;  in the late 1970s it went up to 6 or 7
    years after flight training versus the previous 5-year commitment, and
    my classmates had to all sign statements that they would accept the new
    commitment length even though their original service contracts stated
    otherwise (one guy sued the AF and was able to hold them to the
    original service commitment).  A couple of years ago, it went up again;
    last year, when AFA's John Steed was drafted by Dallas, it was said
    that he probably wouldn't play for Dallas since unlike Staubach, who
    had a 5-year commitment, Steed would be tied up for 9 years with pilot
    training and his initial AF flight commitment.
    
    FWIW...there is talk about increasing it again, but it will probably
    never fly (pun intended).

    In 1979 when I was considering the AFA, it was 2 years of flight
    school + 5 years committment.  For non-pilots it was just 5 years.
    Now it's up to 7 after flight school?  Geez, I'll bet that may
    hurt their recruiting.........
    
    Claybone

    
    Did I read this here or the local newspaper? It's worth repeating
    though: One scout thought that compared to George, Tony Eason reminded
    him of George Patton in the field.
    
    -Dick
      

    Re:.-1
    Not surprising, considering several key scenes and episodes in George's
    career: his mom accompanying him going off the field on a cart in a
    game as a freshman in Purdue amidst boos from the home crowd; his dad
    saying all the words for him when he decided to leave Purdue for Miami;
    blaming his freshman mistakes and failures on his line, his receivers,
    his fans, never himself; fleeing from facing the possibility of an
    unfamiliar offense with Fred Akers (after he left it was a relief not a
    disappointment among Purdue players and fans, despite his talents);
    fleeing from Miami after spending a few months with Steve Walsh, Craig
    Erickson and Jimmy Johnson, who refused to commit to George
    (correctly); the list goes on and on.  They guy has yet to face up to
    any adversity without running away from it.
    
    Charles

    I think there is something wrong in Major harris lasting as long
    as he did in the draft. When I recall how JD's fav QB, Doug Flutie,
    was scoffed up by the NJ Generals while being drafted in the 7th
    (?) round by the Rams, there appears to be something wrong - OR
    - that draft may have been terribly lean.
    
    In any case I think Harris has more to offer than Flutie did coming
    out of college.
    
    Rich
    

Rich,

	I agree.  In time, I think Harris can be what people
	dreamed Flutie could be in the pros.  I hope he gets
	a shot in the CFL, because the NFL isn't giving him
	one.

Mike

Take a look at this week's SI for a less-than-otpimistic article on
Jeff George.  Apparently, the key thing that sold the scouts on George
was his performance in three workouts, 2 indoors where he threw a
total of about 300 ball and one outdoors where he threw 30 passes.
The #1 pick was sealed when they asked George to air out his arm
and see how far he could throw.  With a receiver starting 25
yards beyond the line, George threw an 81 yard strike... 

SI mentions that George has a history of not finishing what he
starts, blames others when things go bad, and being akin to Dan Fouts
in terms of mobility.... I quick drop, after that, forget it.
Somthing about the look in his eye makes me wonder about him,
though.  I can't get Tony Eason out of my mind.

    St Douglas of the Heights (tm) was the 11th round pick of the Rams,
    285th player chosen, in the 1985 NFL Draft.  He was a territorial
    pick of the Generals, because they had the automatic rights to all
    BC players.
    
    John

Doggonit there Doug!

You see, I usually get my SI on Friday.  It's a welcome edition to the
mailbox, as I get the mail when I get home, let the wolf in and
feed him, then crack a beer, sit down, put my feet up, and read
SI, usually cover to cover..

Now, dadgum it, ya done spoilt one a th'articles fer me  8^)


This is gonna be a wonderful friday afternoon! yeee-hah

'Saw

    Chainsaw, you mean you actually read the articles, not just look at da
    pictures?  :-)
    
    H�wk

Yep, Hawkster.  I don't tell too many people, but I can read...

I have to confess I did linger for a while on the picture of Steffi
in lasted week's issue...

Chainsaw

   
    > and being akin to Dan Fouts in terms of mobility.... 
    
    Hey Ross, when you say Fouts, make sure your head is bowed! :-)
    
    Live from Charger Central....
    
    Glenn

>    Hey Ross, when you say Fouts, make sure your head is bowed! :-)
>    Glenn

No offense intended... Dan Fouts is probably the QB I most enjoyed
watching.  Tough, quick release, great at reading D's.

And I also thought Chuck Muncie was the best RB I ever saw play... when
he was straight, he was better than Payton, Dickerson, Dorsett.   A real
horse.

    Fouts was the toughest sonofagun I ever saw (along with Pastorini),
    and a great QB, but his lack of mobility, and ineffectiveness under
    pressure lost him points in my book. I'm afraid I saw him for too
    many years in the pre-Coryell era ....
    
    But in the early and mid-80's ... Fouts to Winslow ... Fouts to
    Joiner ... Fouts to JJ ... to Chandler ... to Munice outta the
    backfield .... it was incredible to watch ....

    Ross-  I didn't take any offense, I was just givin' ya a hard time.
    
    Glenn

>I have to confess I did linger for a while on the picture of Steffi
>in lasted week's issue...
    
    Me too.  In fact, with all that cash she get, if she got a nose job,
    I'd marry her!
    
    Dan

    Not as much as Joe Montana, but Dan Fouts had a tough of Namath in him
    too.
    
    Dan

    Fouts = choker.  Put on a good show, never won nothin'.
    
    Nuff said.
    
    NAZZ