Conference hbahba::cam_sports

And I might as well post the first reply.

I'll be out from 5:00 pm today until August 7th.  So the casting call for
the TV movie about the US Women's Olympic Gymnastics Team will have to go
without my wisdom and guidance during that period.

-Roland

>I'll be out from 5:00 pm today until August 7th.  So the casting call for
>the TV movie about the US Women's Olympic Gymnastics Team will have to go
>without my wisdom and guidance during that period.


As I stated in the Junk Note,   I'm out until August 13th.  See that note for
the rules you have to follow. 8^)


'Saw

  I'm taking the 1st 3 days of next week on the cape. Patty found a B&B on the
Cape that takes her Barter Dollars.

  VaaaaaaaaaCAshion.

  George

    
    I'm out of here the day after all losses by Cleveland teams unless the
    Yankees and Sox also lost, then I might be in depending on my mood.
    

    
    I'll be out till 19-Aug myself. Float around the West for two weeks
    then back to Portland teaching Tools at one of our VAR's

So far Roland, George, 'saw and Groaner have been outed.  I cain't say that 
I'm surprised about Groaner, but the others are a bit surprising.  Congrats 
to all of you guys, if isn't always an easy thing to do, especially in this 
notesfile.

boy have things changed in here while I was gone.

brews

Yep, today I'm an "outtie" with an "innie"......

RE: Brews (.7)

You can create a separate "in the closet" note if you wish.  It's a
free country... :-)

Cain't do that while 'saw is gone.  There is a new note creation moratorium 
until his return.

brews

>creation moratorium

I looked at this really fast and thought it said "crematorium"...

You can create notes while 'Saw is gone.  They just can't be "stupid" notes.
And the only ones checking are the faux mods - one of them thinks it's Q5,
and the other one thinks Kennedy was shot by the dwarf from Twin Peaks.

RE  <<< Note 284.11 by IMBETR::DUPREZ "It's Baseball And You're An American" >>>

>You can create notes while 'Saw is gone.  They just can't be "stupid" notes.
>And the only ones checking are the faux mods - one of them thinks it's Q5,
>and the other one thinks Kennedy was shot by the dwarf from Twin Peaks.

  You may be mistaken about the dwarf. Remember;

    "The owls are not what they seem." 

  George

    Breen's a mod?  When/what/who allowed that to happen?  BTW, billte 
    is signed out on the non-electronic billboard over here until 
    August 5, and TTom is galavanting around to God knows where for who
    knows how long, so basically this asylum is unattended...
    
    glenn
    

I'm not out, not any more.

I seen the arrows of my ways and have returned from the deep.

TTom

well, I guess I'll out myself, it really is the only way...

I'll be on the beach in Hawaii for a week and a half.  sees yas later.

brews

    I sneaked in here today between vacation trips and etc.
    
    I know nothing about twin peaks and television in general, never saw
    it, home improvement, seinfeld or any of them; if it's not on
    nickolodean which is all Phil watches (Lucy of all shows is his
    absolute favorite) I don't see it except for Niles and Frasier if I
    think of it on Tuesday nights.
    
    I do know that Kennedy wasn't killed by that Italian Mannlicher from
    the angle of the Depository, that is one of the few, unimpeachable
    facts to ever surface from the 10 zillion words published.  The Grassy
    Knoll was merely a blind (or in modern terms disinformation which
    comprises about 75% of the afore-mentioned zillion).
    
    Billte

And don't think I'm not looking once in a while.

Had some WONDERFUL events take place whilst I was on vacation.  On the first
Satrurday, I'm working furiously away on my book when WHAM, my PC just up and
shits the bed.

Fortunately, I had bought my brothers old one.  He had two MONDO disks in there
so I did the Bill Long thing, opened it up, swapped my disk in long enough to
transfer all those precious Word for Window files over, and was back at work in
half a day.

His modem card is screwed up though (gotta diddle with the jumpers I think) and
I haven't been able to dial in.

In the office getting some last minute things together for nexted week.


Properly flat-topped and ready for active duty,
'Saw

Well, I'm only going to be out to this notesfile, but since Thursday is a
holiday in the more Catholic parts of Bavaria (Assumption Day, in German
Mari� Himmelfahrt, or Mary's trip to heaven), I'll be in N�rnberg starting
on Monday, and then we get Friday off as a "bridge day".  So I won't be at
my desk again til 19-Aug, unless I decide to come in over the weekend and
try to catch up on my noting (there are still over 300 unseen notes in this
file alone).

Karen, you're off the first two weeks of September?  I'm off the five weeks
following them.  By the time I'm back, you'll be posting hockey scores again
(I take the liberty of hoping).

Steve

Then let you off to play bridge? Way cool!~

TTom

> Then let you off to play bridge? Way cool!~

I'm pretty sure I've already detailed the measures Germany's unions have
pushed through in their efforts to destroy labor's ability to compete in
the world market, but just in case...

Officially, we have a 35-hour work week.  We actually work 39 hours, with
the extra four hours a week going into a "free time account" (Freizeitkonto),
which is spent in two different ways:

1.  on designated days, like the Friday after a Thursday holiday or a full
    one or two weeks encompassing the twelve days of Christmas, the whole
    shop closes up (excepting emergency services), and those hours are
    subtracted from our accounts.  These days are called "bridge days"
    (Br�ckentage); and

2.  we take time off over and above vacation.

Because I'm committed to the customer for a certain number of hours per year,
I have never actually managed to get my free time account anywhere close to
zero.  I've never gone to the trouble of adding it up, but if you took our
thirty days of vacation, approximately ten public holidays, and the free time
account, we're actually responsible for working about nine and a half months
out of the year.  I typically make the corporation a present of about three
or four weeks of that.

Now, is this nuts, or what?

Steve

PS:  I won't record my time today, because all I'm doing is catching up on
notesfiles, work-related and otherwise.  Anyway, if I did record it, my
manager would probably get his wrist slapped by the Works Council
(Betriebsrat), also known as the Work Prevention Council, for permitting
me unauthorized overtime.  See the question above the signature.

As yes, Assumption Day.

My brother and I used to piss my mother off by always referring to it as
"Consumption Day".

"Assumption Day" in the "I'm out" note?

Not really what I had in mind...

>"Assumption Day" in the "I'm out" note?

Maybe it should be in the "I'm up" note?

    Or the UP Your Note?

  Two more days off Thursday and Friday.

  Ok, it's mostly for work around the house but so what:

      VAY - CAY - TION !!!!

  George

Good.  Frank will have time to defrag the disk...

  Unless he gives up and frags it instead.

  George

>  Unless he gives up and frags it instead.
>
>  George


I'm more a sniper type of guy than a fragger....  

Storage technology has some great jargon.

Perhaps the all-time:

	"always mount a scratch monkey"

TTom

  Is that where edp got that?

  I always wondered.

  George

I have friends that are quite capable of dropping someone at ranges above
1000 yards.  They have an attitude and a lingo all their own.  It's almost a
Zen thing.

As far as storage monkeys go, just don't be caught spankin' it....

re: scratch monkey

Yeah, edp uses it as his p-name.

It's a very commonly referenced jargon. Go into Altavista and you'll see
pages of references, including a note from feb 93 by edp.

TTom

I remember first seeing EDP's pname about 10 years ago.  The lore
at the time went something like this:

	A Field Service engineer had recently performed a routine
	PM on a PDP11 that was controlling a laboratory experiment
	involving a monkey.  Unfortunately for the monkey, the PDP
	didn't come up in an exactly stable fashion and the monkey
	perished.  Thus, resulting that in the future, before
	performing PMs on that machine, one should alway mount a
	scratch monkey...

Believe it, or not.

    
    No, the scratch monkey story isn't urban legend - it's documented,
    and names real live people - no FoFs...
    
    Joe

THOSE were the days.  PDP's and PMs, when a Field Service guy was assigned to
your account and you got to know him.

It was almost like small town America, where you knew the mailman, the milkman,
and the town's one cop.

I learned more from my field service guy than I learned from any professor....

	I'm out camping in the Green Mountains of Vermont
	until 8/22.  Yunz behave, now ya hear!

	Billte, I'll be waiting patiently for your response
	on the p_name wager.



	billl

    Still waiting fo yo response Billte!!!   I know the Steelers
    got themselves spanked by Jacksonville in a big way.  
    
    Somehow the Steelers got to get themselves obsolved from the
    physical punishment they seen to take on Opening Day.  
    
    Lloyd out for the season!????  Shades of 1995.
    
    I won't be back in here until Wedesnday, September 4, at the 
    earliest so let Hal and Groaner (Raven fans extroardanaire)
    have their fun.  I still say that Miller is the only thing that
    can guild the Steelers to SBXXXI.
    
    If'n Cowher goes to the flip-flop qb method, the Steelers will
    be in the "pitts" of the AFC, along with the Pats come December.
    
    
    billl

    Bill I told Glenn that the bet is Pats vs Steelers for most wins.  Jets
    are a longshot and I'll play that just as Vegas h'caps it (Jets to win
    more than 4, Steelers to win less than 10).
    
    

>    Bill I told Glenn that the bet is Pats vs Steelers for most wins.  Jets
>    are a longshot and I'll play that just as Vegas h'caps it (Jets to win
>    more than 4, Steelers to win less than 10).
    
    First I've heard of this Steelers-Pats thing... plus, I'd have thought 
    that the over-under on the Jets and their last place schedule would
    be higher than 4, but after this past Sunday I might have to re-think
    that.  Denver, last in the league in sacks last year with 30, rack up
    9 against the Jests, with O'D flopping to the turf (he'll take the 
    sack rather than throw it away; always has) for 8 of them, with two
    fumbles.  Such a shame...
    
    glenn
    

    No way, ya wimp!  You been spoutin' 'bout how the Steelers 
    loosin' O'D was monumental.  The O'line did all they could
    to prove you right.  But the factoid is that the Jests O'line
    is worst.  
    
    Bottom line...you build your All-NFL team around Grogan (HAHAHA)
    and O'D.  I'd take Terry B teamed with that bunch of loosers 
    from Clevescum and still woop yer butt!
    
    Guess yer not willing to back yer lip with yer reputation.
    
    
    billl

    billte 'splained to me offline that he got cold feet when he suddenly 
    realized that Rich Kotite is still the coach of the Jests... ;-)
    
    glenn
    

    re "cold feet":
    
    Must be due to age and lack of circulation.  That would splain
    his rah-rah for Grogan too.
    
    Any hows got back to the home front ahead of schedule, even with
    the pit stop at Kelly's in Groton.  Got the OK for vaca manyana.
    
    Looks like a fun day at the links.  See yunz Thursday.
    
    
    billl

    I'm saying nothing here I didn't say in the original note.  The
    Steelers will badly miss O'Donnell, he was critical to their success.
    
    Now it may be impossible to play qb with several million sitting in the
    bank.  If I was going to bet the Jets vs The Steelers straight up I
    would have offered it.  
    
    I take it the reasonable bet is off.

    
>    I take it the reasonable bet is off.
    
    What's the "reasonable" bet?  Pats-Steelers?  What the hell; I'll
    take it.  Even though the Steelers are outright decimated right 
    now, fielding only 10 or 11 of their starters from Super Bowl XXX.
    The Steelers might not be beating anyone for at least a few games
    here.  They were that bad on Sunday...
    
    glenn
    

    Now the pressure is on Long.
    
    To make it fair we'll do both bets and a tie on the Jets bet goes to
    me.  Long will need odds to match since he knows approximately what
    he'd be wearing for a week.
    
    If both bets lose it's two p-names to be served consecutively.  Split
    and it's no p-name.

>    Now the pressure is on Long.

	What the hail are you talking about?

	You spout off about how smart the Jets were and how dumb
	the Steelers were, all in regards to the O'D trade.  Now
	how do you figure the Patriots into the formula?

	Yer bafflin' me, dude.


	billl

    There's no bafflement.  You virtually admit (in fact just now did admit
    using the injuries as an excuse when the real reason is they don't have
    O'Donnell who WAS the team) that the Steelers are going nowhere and
    then find someone who thinks they "May" even lose as many as the Jets.
    
    So instead of making a real bet (Patriots) you're trying to conjure one
    up.  I'm giving you a great offer: both bets, two p-names with the one
    rider "Jets tie I win".
    
    And you're baffled?  I'm not, your full of what makes NH so lovable to
    Tommy.

I'm outta here.

Fran is due to hit the coast in a couple of hours. Right now, they're
showing it coming inland about right at the the SC-NC border.

So far, it looks like its going more north than west. Wilmington and
Raliegh look like they're right in the path. Then it's up I-95 to
Richmond, Washington and that there neck of the woods

In any case, I'm headed to the store afore they sell outta the essentials
like Budweiser and L'il Debbies.

So far, it looks a lot like Hugo who struck early one Friday morning and
pretty much trash the place. This time it's more likely to level Raleigh,
though.

Ta ta.

TTom

    
    
      > Bud and L'il Debbies.   :-)

Make that an O'Doul's an Li'l Debbie and I'm THERE.

Li'l Debbie's rule.

All right, here's the inevitable question from the expatrioutofit:

Please, sirs, what's a L'il Debbie?

Steve

>All right, here's the inevitable question from the expatrioutofit:
>
>Please, sirs, what's a L'il Debbie?
>
>Steve


Li'l Debbie is a brand of snack cakes.  I like 'em better than Drakes or
Hostess, and most places they cost less.

I don't eat a lot of stuff like that, but when I do, I like Li'l Debbie best of
all.

Thanks, 'Saw, I don't believe I've ever seen them.  Are they an East Coast
or New England phenomenon?  Come to think of it, a cousin of mine in LA has
a 7-11, I'll research the subject with him next time I'm there (which will
be in 10 days).

Steve

Where there's 7-11, there's L'il Debbies. Snack food supreme.

I don't know about y'all but I caint eat just any junk food with beer. I
really caint do no chocalote. I prefer things like Fig Newtons or oatmeal
cookies.

In any case, Fran came and went and decided it would be nicer to trash
Raleigh than Charlotte. The coast took it pretty heavy but this was no
Hugo.

TTom

    They have them out here.  Drake's finally moved into this region last
    month.

Maybe we need a L'il Debbie's note to record sightings in unusual
places...

>Maybe we need a L'il Debbie's note to record sightings in unusual
>places...

What orifice to you have in mind, Roland?

I've noticed a rather disturbing trend in junk food lateley. It's the no
fat craze that's invading our lives.

If'n I wanna eat crap, that's my constitutional right. If'n I wanna eat
something with no taste to go along with no calories, again, it's my
choice.

But the nexted thing you know they'll outlaw vending machines and you
won't see L'il Debbie advertising at sprots events and the like.

TTom

> Maybe we need a L'il Debbie's note to record sightings in unusual
> places...

I'll keep a lookout for them in LA.  There is no more unusual place than that.

Steve

Actually, I'm a big proponent of the no-fat/low-fat junk food.

As long as it doesn't taste no-fat/low-fat, then I'll eat it.  I figure, why
not.

I love ice cream.  But lately, I've been going with the Hood Lite, and it's
great.  Yeah, there's still fat there, but now I can eat ice cream and it fits
in a lot better with what I'm trying to accomplish.  And the Kraft Fat Free
whipped cream tastes good too.

I've lost twelve pounds since I started watching my weight, and hopefully by
Thanksgiving I'll have lost another ten anyway....


'Saw

>As long as it doesn't taste no-fat/low-fat, then I'll eat it.  I figure, why
>not.

That's the key. Most of the stuff tastes like what they're wrapped in.
Some of it's OK but you can have most of it.

TTom

    Well was that Lil Debbie who did so well in Dallas?
    
    Hood Lite passes as real ice cream but I know the best ice cream place
    in So. NH but I'm keeping it a secret they keep running out all the
    time but they have old fashioned bulk style for a buck and they give
    out about 1/2 pint in a cup.

Well, I've cut way, way back on my ice cream consumption, so a place like yer
pitchin' there, Bill, would be heaven indeed.....

      Lil' Debbies, is that the swirls?  I can sit and eat 2 packages of
    those at a time, thats why I only buy them once every couple of months.
    
      Now good jerky and beer go well together, especailly when out
    trolling and sunnin'.
    
      Tim

I never could get into jerky. Nor chewing tobacco which tastes
approximately the same. 

As for trollin and sunnin, I learnt one of natures secrets over Labor
Day. Namely, don't bring no cooler with a detachable lid for them beers.
On the firsted rapids of the float, the lead canoe lost most of his beers
when he sunk the cooler along with ever thing else in his canoe and the
lid floated away releasing his stache.

Luckily, I had coolers with built-in/on lids. Hail, I buy that kind cause
it's a hassle loosin your lid when you're drinking good.

TTom

    Just for kicks I decided to count the number of "jerky" offerings that
    Estabrooks genral store on Rt 2 in Jefferson had.  25.  And he doesn't
    even specialize.  They have that teriaki jerky now that's pretty good
    tho it's really smoked meat that's sealed rather than the dehydrated
    jerky that's in a jar.

    
    	Going to get educated for a week.
    
    Ron

    
    Will be out 2/11-2/14.  Getting educated for 4/5th of a week.
    
    I must be 1/5th smarter than Ron... :-) :-)

Tomorrow's the first day of a 4-day weekend here.  I immediately head for
N�rnberg Tuesday, so I'll be back in here next Friday.

Happy holidays to all of you.

Steve

|                               -< Long weekend >-
|
|Tomorrow's the first day of a 4-day weekend here.  I immediately head for
|N�rnberg Tuesday, so I'll be back in here next Friday.
|
|Happy holidays to all of you.
|
|Steve

Well, have a wonderful weekend and a nice holiday yerself.


'Saw