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Title:Sports 93-96 Archive. No new notes allowed
Notice:Chainsaw's last standSPORTS_97
Moderator:HBAHBA::HAAS
Created:Mon Jan 11 1993
Last Modified:Tue Apr 15 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:302
Total number of notes:117855

228.0. "Roller Derby" by HELIX::MAIEWSKI () Wed May 31 1995 14:17

  Hold on to your helmets and send out your jammers, it's back. According to
ESPN three new teams have been formed, one in L.A., one in San Francisco, and
one in K.C. and they are trying to add more. 

  Roller Derby was really big as a made for TV sport about 30 years ago but it
eventually faded away. Now with the possibility of support from cable and a new
generation of fans they are trying once again. 

  To those not old enough to remember, Roller Derby is somewhere about mid way
between a legitimate sport and mud wrestling. Two teams of skaters mounted on
roller skates compete on an oval, the object being to score points by having
skaters on your team go out and lap skaters from the other team. 

  There are both men and womens teams and the most common strategy is to have
little fast people go out and try to lap skaters on the other team while larger
skaters are positioned at the back to defend against being lapped. Hockey like
checking and using elbows to take down an opponent is not only legal, it's
encouraged. 

  So crank up the TV's, rainy Sundays are no longer a reason for gloom, Roller
Derby is back!

  George
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228.1anything's better'n baseballHBAHBA::HAASmay not have happenedWed May 31 1995 14:195
First NASCAR. Now Roller Derby.

Maybe I will make it until Football Season.

TTom
228.2ONOFRE::MAY_BRMich fightsong=1bourbon,1scotch &1beerWed May 31 1995 14:254
    
    Joanie Weston is a babe.
    
    brews
228.3CAMONE::WAYIs C++ really D?Wed May 31 1995 14:4913
>    
>    Joanie Weston is a babe.
>    


Man, she was an Amazonian bleach-blonde when I was a kid and watching
roller derby.  

Back then it was the Bay Area Bombers with Joanie Weston and Charlie
O'Connell....


Man, does that take me back!
228.4HELIX::MAIEWSKIWed May 31 1995 14:557
  According to the piece on ESPN, several of the old stars are coming back
either as skaters or as coaches. Also it seems to be a family thing. They
showed one family consisting of a man and woman who had been skaters last
time around. This time he's a coach, she's skating and the kids, who are now
in their teens, are skating.

  George
228.5MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Wed May 31 1995 15:138
    
        I can only hope that they bring back Pretty Judy Arnold, Big Jim
       Otis and Harry The Rabbit Morgan as coaches. Seriously, roller
       derby is no more a sport than pro wrestling is. In fact, it's such
       a non-sport that when they made a feature film about it, non-actress 
       Rachel Welch was the only logical choice to play the title role.
       It used to be well-choreographed and fairly entertaining but it
       was not a sport.  
228.6CAMONE::WAYIs C++ really D?Wed May 31 1995 15:1414
My mom went to Roller Derby once when she was a kid (so we're talking
years and years ago).  She said she enjoyed it, and then when they flew
over the rail and landed on the floor they really did land on the floor.

But, she said that other than that it reminded her an awful lot of 
professional wrestling.

Nowadays, I believe they term it "Sports Entertainment"......


I'd watch it, at least once, to see if it is as fun as I remember.....8^)


'Saw
228.7response to 'Saw's p-nameIMBETR::DUPREZWed May 31 1995 15:486
To me, C++ would be B-

Hope this helps.

Roland
228.8CAMONE::WAYIs C++ really D?Wed May 31 1995 15:549
>
>To me, C++ would be B-
>
>Hope this helps.
>

Just a little bit o' programmer humor there.... 8^)


228.9ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Wed May 31 1995 16:303
228.10HELIX::MAIEWSKIWed May 31 1995 16:356
  Yes, C++ should have been D.

  Don't know what they were thinking. Well I do but they were thinking the
wrong thing, obviously no respect for history.

  George
228.11PTOSS1::JACOBRCertifiably InsaneWed May 31 1995 16:576
    Another Faux Sport, choreographed to the hilt.
    
    Write lock this bogus note, please.
    
    JaKe
    
228.12ONOFRE::MAY_BRMich fightsong=1bourbon,1scotch &1beerWed May 31 1995 17:405
   > Rachel Welch was the only logical choice to play the title role.
    
    She earned the title role in more ways than one.
    
    brews
228.13CNTROL::CHILDSJJS the BucketsMasterThu Jun 01 1995 08:277
    
    I went to the roller derby matches when they came to worcester aud
    back when it was the Auditorium. No way was that stuff fake........
    
    Always wanted it to be a Jammer........
    
    ;^)
228.14mike, are you in dream land?ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Thu Jun 01 1995 10:303
228.15Bay Area Bombers RULED......CAMONE::WAYIs C++ really D?Fri Jun 02 1995 09:2720
>  Yes, C++ should have been D.
>
>  Don't know what they were thinking. Well I do but they were thinking the
>wrong thing, obviously no respect for history.


Well, actually, if I remember correctly, the predecessors to C were B and
BCP.  There was speculation for a while that the next iteration might have
been P, because it followed C in BCP.

C++ came from Dennis Ritchie's C With Classes, but I don't know who it
was that put the ++ on it.  Probably some cutsie marketing type.  8^)

Actually, though C++ is good for one thing:  "Friends can see Friends Private
Parts".....


8^)

'Saw
228.16XCUSME::CREWSWhat we have here is failure to communicateWed Jul 12 1995 11:545
    One of the greatest events in sports history happened in 1963 when the
    LA T-Birds came from behind to beat the Detroit Devils and win  the
    World Championship!  Sorta ranks up there with Thomson's homerun!
    
    -- jb
228.17Does the WBA == WWF?SPIKED::SWEENEYTom Sweeney in OGOThu Jul 13 1995 10:148
>Sorta ranks up there with Thomson's homerun!

Nah,

	Something far more important.  Something like the Cleveland Crunch's
Soccer championship!

	zamboni
228.18ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the sameThu Jul 13 1995 10:362
228.19HTHHBAHBA::HAASimprobable causeThu Jul 13 1995 10:513
The Celtics won a couple of titles with Bird in the 80s.

TTom
228.20ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the sameThu Jul 13 1995 11:016
228.21boston city of losers who think they are winnersROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the sameThu Jul 13 1995 11:034
228.22does title move?HBAHBA::HAASimprobable causeThu Jul 13 1995 11:0610
So what yer saying is Cleveland aint no kinda sprots town?

I do have one question, though: when a team wins a title then moves does
the city get to keep the title or does it move with the team? For
example, does Indianapolis have a title?

The Raiders helped out in this regard cause they won titles in both
Oakland and LA.

TTom
228.23ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the sameThu Jul 13 1995 11:084
228.24weirdHBAHBA::HAASimprobable causeThu Jul 13 1995 11:288
		THE WORLD CHAMPION INDIANAPOLIS COLTS

Man, that sounds weird.

But, I'm writing down all these rules sos I can keep up.

TTom
228.25ROCK::HUBERFrom Seneca to Cuyahoga FallsThu Jul 13 1995 11:309
    
    IMHO (not that anyone asked), a title does _not_ move.  A team
    represents a city; just because later they represent a different 
    city, the past doesn't change.
    
    For instance, the Cleveland Rams won the NFL championship in 1945.
    Should St. Louis now have claim to that title?
    
    Joe
228.26CAMONE::WAYSoftware MorticianThu Jul 13 1995 11:357
Well, according to the Baseball HoF, the title stays with the franchise.

If you look at the Braves for example, they have WS titles as Boston and 
Milwaukee.


But that's just for baseball....
228.27bofHBAHBA::HAASimprobable causeThu Jul 13 1995 11:3911
Yeah, Joe, I asked for a_IM[H]O. I tend to agree with it, too.

I can see both the cities and the team staking their claim, though.

As for the Rams, Cleveland, LA or St. Louiee, what the hail we're they
doing while we was busy dropping nukes and the like? I mean, if'n all I
did during the big one (at least one of the big ones, it was big to those
in it) was play football, I'd keep it to myself. Or run for president
like Phil Gramm.

TTom
228.28another legend before his time.......CNTROL::CHILDSWatch out Big Brother's watching!Mon Jul 17 1995 16:424
    
    Hey Jim_bob_dallas_denver_Crews great to see you've survived!!!!!!!
    
    mike