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Conference noted::decnis

Title: DEC Network Integration Server (DECNIS)
Notice:Please read note 1 to use this conference effectively
Moderator:MARVIN::WELCH
Created:Wed Sep 18 1991
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3660
Total number of notes:15082

3651.0. "connect a B1202-NN to a DVNEA-MX" by JGODCL::CLEEUW () Mon May 26 1997 06:55

    Does anyone have experience with setting up a B1202-AA (DECnis 500/600
    W631 ATM board with a DAGGM-AA board in it) and the DVNEA-MX?
    It seems we require something called like tunnelling but thid is new to
    me.
    Any help in this would be welcome (Note is also cross posted in the ATM 
    notes conference).
    We currently are trying to set up a link between the B1202-AA in a
    DECNIS 600 and the DVNEA-MX in a DEChub900 in order to be able to
    donwnload an image into the DECnis 600 via this ATM link.
    Regards - Cees van der Leeuw  (vdleeuw@mail dec .com)
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3651.1Load and Dump over ATM are not SupportedGALVIA::thebe.ilo.dec.com::RawlingsMon May 26 1997 12:0414
	Hi,

	Can you be more specific about what protocols etc
	you expect to run between the two systems?

	If what you are aiming is is to have the DECNIS
	load and/or dump across ATM you are out of luck.
	Load and dump of the DECNIS are not supported over ATM.
	
		Regards,
			Mark Rawlings
			(DECNIS ATM)
	
3651.2Any other way to load a file ?JGODCL::CLEEUWWed May 28 1997 02:5510
    Mark,
    what I'm trying to do is to get a large file into the DECnis, via the
    B1202's ATM link in oreder to check if this link is operating properly.
    This should be a check for the verify of the repair of these B1202
    boards.
    If I interpret your response correctly then this loading of a file via
    the aTM link is not supported ?
    Is there another way that you know of, except the loopback test for the
    B1202's ATM card, to check if the ATM link is OK ?
    Regards - Cees
3651.3Pass traffic THROUGH the DECNIS not into it.GALVIA::thebe.ilo.dec.com::RawlingsWed May 28 1997 06:5529
	Cees,

	I don't really understand what you are trying to achieve?

	What I think I understanding is
		a) You are repairing boards
		b) You don't trust the onboard diagnostics
		c) You want to pass files into/out of the
			DECNIS and compare the two?

	The way to test a reparied DECNIS/linecard  
	is to pass large files THROUGH it, not INTO it.

	By passing files into the DECNIS you are limited by the
	speed at which the MOP/BOOTP protocols run on the MPC.
	(These are not highly optimised protocols). This type of
	test does not provide much of a challenge to the linecard.

	By passing files through the DECNIS using FTP or DECNet-Copy
	you are more likely to get data through the system faster,
	thus testing the Linecard/DECNIS more fully.

	I would suggest that your testing should involve
	passing data through the DECNIS/linecard, and not into it.

		Regards,
			Mark	
	
3651.4JGODCL::CLEEUWThu May 29 1997 03:199
    Mark,
    you are correct that I want to pass a file through the line card.
    I would like to downline load the DECnis image via the ATM card into
    the decnis itsself as part of the final testing for the ATM card.
    We use such an approach for all line cards we repair so far and I would
    like to know if this approach is also is possible for the ATM card and
    if yes how correctly to set up the B1202 for it.
    
    Cees.
3651.5Might be possible with MPC IIIGALVIA::thebe.ilo.dec.com::RawlingsWed Jun 04 1997 07:1939
	Cees,

	OK, what you are doing is using the process of loading the
	DECNIS image via a specific line-card to test that specific
	line-card. You do not want to use the passing of traffic 
	*through* the DECNIS as the test.

	The ATM linecard, and the new HSSI linecard, do not support 
	Loading of the System image at boot time, so this is not an
	option on either MPC II, or III.

	However, my understanding is that with the MPC III, there are 
	two regions of FLASH into which System images can be written.

	It is possible to update the 'inactive' flash region whilst the
	system is running, and to then re-boot using the new Flash region.

	I have not performed this operation so I would suggest you read
	the relevant documentation to work out 

		How to configure TFTP as the download protocol over 
		ATM Mult prot encapsulation

		How to push an image to a specific flash region over
		TFTP

		How to make the updated flash region the region
		used at the next reboot.

	This will allow you to pass a DECNIS image through the
	linecard under test, and to boot it as a test of it's 
	correctness.

	This does imply that you have a fully booted and configured
	DECNIS before you start.

		Regards,
			Mark.
3651.6use update and show commandsMARVIN::HIGGINSONPeter Higginson DTN 830 6293, Reading UKWed Jun 04 1997 18:0315
Just one thing to add to Mark's reply:


	Provided you use the "update flash ..." command you
	can then use the "show flash" console command to
	check the correctness of the flash write since it
	rechecks the sumcheck fields on the file and header
	contents.

	If you use "add flash ..." then the sumcheck is
	computed after the transfer and you are unlikely
	to spot any errors whatever you do.

Peter