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Conference back40::soapbox

Title:Soapbox. Just Soapbox.
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Moderator:WAHOO::LEVESQUEONS
Created:Thu Nov 17 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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782.0. "Memory" by RUSURE::EDP (Always mount a scratch monkey.) Tue Sep 03 1996 10:45

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782.1RUSURE::GOODWINSacred Cows Make the Best HamburgerTue Sep 03 1996 10:546
782.2Brain sucking hey!!KERNEL::FREKESExcuse me while I scratch my buttTue Sep 03 1996 12:137
782.3ALFSS2::WILBUR_DTue Sep 03 1996 12:257
782.4OTOOA::BERNARDPeace through Superior Fire PowerTue Sep 03 1996 12:279
782.5Star Trek needs help, too.NETCAD::CREEGANWed Sep 04 1996 16:3310
782.6FABSIX::W_WELCHThu Sep 05 1996 01:380
782.7Oh, yeah!?SHRCTR::PJOHNSONaut disce, aut discedeThu Sep 05 1996 08:427
782.8"Incorrect." "Grrr..."DECWIN::RALTOJail to the ChiefThu Sep 05 1996 11:004
782.9BULEAN::BANKSThink locally, act locallyFri Sep 06 1996 14:3968
782.10DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Fri Sep 06 1996 15:007
782.11MKOTS3::JMARTINI Need To Get Out More!Fri Sep 06 1996 15:252
782.12studies and studies and studiesSMURF::WALTERSFri Sep 06 1996 15:2837
782.13BULEAN::BANKSThink locally, act locallyFri Sep 06 1996 15:3822
782.14SMURF::WALTERSFri Sep 06 1996 15:4714
782.15BULEAN::BANKSThink locally, act locallyFri Sep 06 1996 15:5514
782.16SMURF::WALTERSFri Sep 06 1996 15:581
782.17TEXAS1::SOBECKYrunnin' against the windWed Sep 11 1996 17:547
782.18BUSY::SLABBaroque: when you're out of MonetWed Sep 11 1996 18:274
782.19RUSURE::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Thu Sep 12 1996 10:0011
782.20SMURF::WALTERSThu Sep 12 1996 10:166
782.21BULEAN::BANKSThink locally, act locallyFri Sep 13 1996 12:2810
782.22BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.yvv.com/decplus/Fri Sep 13 1996 12:484
782.23RUSURE::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Fri Sep 13 1996 14:1415
782.24BULEAN::BANKSThink locally, act locallyFri Sep 13 1996 14:3842
782.25BULEAN::BANKSThink locally, act locallyFri Oct 04 1996 10:2016
782.26SMURF::WALTERSFri Oct 04 1996 10:495
782.27BULEAN::BANKSThink locally, act locallyFri Oct 04 1996 10:576
782.28local minimum is past ?GAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaFri Oct 11 1996 11:576
782.29POLAR::WILSONCyou can not force me to careSat Nov 23 1996 05:481
782.30POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorSat Nov 23 1996 11:131
782.31BULEAN::BANKSSaturn SapThu Apr 03 1997 10:0842
I just love it when someone pours gasoline on a fire.

My advisor (who has her own agenda) put me on to what sounds like an
interesting recent study:

Leavitt, F. J. (1997).  False attribution of suggestibility to explain
   recovered memory of childhood sexual abuse following extended amnesia.
   "Child Abuse and Neglect," 21(3), 265-272.

Apparently, this guy has taken an instrument developed by those who would
say all "recovered memories" are merely "false memories," attributed to the
therapeutic process suggesting abuse, and therefore implanting false
memories.  The instrument evidently rates how suggestible a person is,
which the False Memory people say measures how easily such false memories
can be implanted.  As with yesterday, Broca's area is failing me, and I'm
not being at all clear in what should be a simple explanation.

Anyway, taking the instrument developed by the False Memory people, this
other guy (who is apparently on the "recovered memory" side) measured the
suggestibility of a bunch of people claiming recovered memories (in
techno-babble, "recovered memory of childhood sexual abuse following
extended amnesia" - it's important to remember that when researchers say
"amnesia," they mean something fairly different from what Hollywood means
when they use the same term).  He then compared the scores to a set of
controls, presumably age matched, although I do not know this for sure.

According to the abstract, which I got to view for, oh, 60 seconds, the
results were that those with "recovered memories" were significantly less
suggestible (on average) than the controls.  This adds fuel to the
arguments of the Recovered Memories people, in that it somewhat refutes the
claims made by the False Memory people that these memories are the result
of suggestion.

A couple of caveats:
  1) I haven't been able to score a copy of this study yet, so I can't\
     comment on any of the flaws in the study (and I'm sure it, like every
     other study I've seen, has some serious flaws)
  2) There's more than one conclusion a person could draw from the results

What's so neat (to me) about this study is that it's going to start another
round of a really huge arguments.  I'm hoping we'll get at least a little
flaming here.