Conference back40::soapbox

    WGAS?

    
    	Hey, if it got you out of the abortion note for even a nano-
    	second, apparently you do.
    

    What are you talking about?

    Fashion.  Humph.  Go figure.

    I do not wear clothes that advertise unless I
    get the clothes for free or I AM ADVERTISING
    (wearing a t-shirt with Joe's Garage Shop, etc)
    for someone who had a special interest.
    
    BUM EQUIPEMENT
    COCA COLA
    CHAMPION
    JUST DO IT (atheletic shoes)
    
    That kind of stuff I don't buy.  
    I have removed labels
    that were affixed to the outside of a 
    garment.  OK, I confess, I do wear 
    LL Bean clothing with their logo on
    the outside for all to see, but only
    because of the sale and some of their
    stuff you just can't get (quality-wise
    or Polortec fabric) anywhere else.

    I also do not purchase clothing that advertises. I do wear a number of
    t-shirts that have Vertigo (DC Comics "mature" line of comics. Their
    description, not necessarily mine) characters on them. ie. Death and
    Sandman t-shirts, etc. No names of companies or else a copyright DC
    Comics in small print at the bottom and occasionally a GraphitiDesign
    logo on a sleeve. 
    
    I have gotten a couple of T's that advertise certain casinos or Miami
    Beach or such and a couple of college jersey's, but those were gifts. I
    also have a couple of Pepe' wear t-shirts that were gifts, but I wear
    those because the very bestest friend who bought them for me calls me
    pepe' (French for grampa, not Spanish for Peter, I think) This is
    because the 75 Newport I was driving, I called an old Pepe'Mobile one
    day. It's been Pepe' ever since.
    
    I don't believe in advertising without compensation either. I don't
    like it on clothing or on car bumpers (dealer's names) or on
    appliances, but whatchagonnado? It's there and I live with most of it.
    
    Bright Blessings,
    
    PJ (or Pepe' what ever you want)

    Wow, I was just talking about this very thing with a buddy of mine,
    yesterday.  I don't wear anything with logos, adverts, etc.
    no walking billboard for me.  Not even Bulls stuff!  Ok ok,
    I do have a small plastic Packers helmet on my screen...
    
    
    Mike
    

    I think there is a difference if you have team logos, if you happen to
    be a fan.  I guess it shows your support or whatever.  I tend to avoid
    that sort of stuff, but I do have jackets from Bradley University and
    DePauw as those were the Universities my kids attended.  I was proud of
    them and the institution and had no problem advertising for them.
    
    I do not wear Coca Cola, etc stuff.  It is, however, impossible to
    avoid the logos on running shoes.  Other than that, I tend to avoid
    named stuff.
    

    All my "golf" shirts have some sort of Digital thing on 'em.  Only wear
    them for the shows where they are handed out, "casual" days at work or
    around the house for the most part.
    
    I have some tee shirts from France that have a little logo on the
    sleeve that says DECATHLON.  It's the equivalent of Sports Authority or
    other mega-sports store over there.  (I'm not eligible anymore, but
    couldn't resist.)
    
    Otherwise, there is the "running shoe" problem.  What are you supposed to
    do?  Sand 'em off?  Paint over them?
    
    I wear some logo socks for a running shoe store in my neighborhood,
    because a friend owns it.
    
    (Truth in advertising: I am exercise "phobic".  I am not a "runner"! A
    little cycling from time to time, and playing with the dog, at most.)
    
    I have some other shirts that are from places: Beach towns, etc.  Do
    they count?
    
    Jeans all have some sort of logo, but the belt usually covers most of
    it.
    
    The rest are freebies that only see the light of day when the laundry
    gets really deep.  (It is a mistake to own more than ten pr. of
    underwear!)
    
    I wear a tee shirt with the Brasilian flag (Brasilian Portuguese does
    not have a "Z"...).  I grew up down there & have a soft spot for it.
    
    I used to be real anti logo, except for the high school jacket.  But
    now I'm jaded, I guess.
    
    FJP

    <--------nerd
    

    re: .10
    
    Can't deny that.  No pretense of hiding it.
    
    FJP
    

    me
    :(_

    
    .0
    
    Since advertising is part of the cost of products. By wearing products
    that advertise you are keeping costs down, so in effect you are 
    getting paid.
    
    
    

With all due respect, I think that people who spend too much time
worrying about this topic need to spend more time getting a life.

Most respectfully,
Peet

    And if anyone wants to take that advice to heart, you may be interested
    in my new "Get A Life"(R) brand t-shirts. $19.95, L XL and XXL.
    

    <guffaw>

    .13
    
    I disagree. The bottom line is my Korean made Nike should only cost
    about $75 instead they are $120 because of Air Jordan commercials.
    
    Smile'in Jack

    jack,
    
    the last I checked Nike's are now made in Indonesia, and Nike is
    looking to move to Viet Nam, as the minimum wage in Indonesia has been
    boosted from 1.60 to 2.55/day, or something closer to a living wage for
    the economy there.
    
    $120 for a shoe that cost less than 12 dollars to manufacture and ship
    to the US?  Nice money if you can keep your conscience asleep in the
    back of your head.  I personally don't think much of Spike Lee of
    Michael Jordan for making this much money on the backs of other people.  
    
    meg
    
    

    
    Meg
    
    I physically took my shoe off before writing my Note and it does say
    made in Korea. 
    
    Smile'in Jack

    and here I thought they had moved all their production away from Korea,
    as the workers there are demanding something resembling a living wage. 

this probably belongs in the TTWA note, but what is driving this
sudden attack of consumer ethics and morality?

this "off-shore" manufacturing practice has been going on since
i was a kid. i remember (probably around age 8) admiring a new
baseball glove (Spaulding, i think) and noticing it was made
in some far away eastern land. 

now, i wonder what wages they paid those poor souls back in...
never mind. 

    
    	Now that all these grossly-overpaid celebrities have made all
    	their millions endorsing these same products, they can afford
    	to turn around and bad-mouth these same companies without be-
    	ing personally affected.  And it makes them appear to care a-
    	bout people in general.
    

    We talked about this in some earlier 'box version (or maybe even
    this one), but I occasionally enjoy repeating myself, so I'll throw
    in two cents:
    
    I never wear anything bearing the name of any product, or even a
    sports team, with one exception (a cap that I chose for its color,
    to be more visible to the kids in a crowd).
    
    The kids can wear clothes with sports team names on them, but that's
    it, no other product names.
    
    I cannot accept the claim that people who wear product advertising are
    helping to keep down the price of the product.  Do we really think
    these companies are passing on any such savings (which could not be
    isolated and identified, in any event) to the consumers?  Bwah-hah. 
    The free advertising provided by walking billboards is strictly gravy
    for these companies.  It doesn't bother me, though, so have at it.
    
    Chris

    The only adverclothing I wear are the T-shirts I get at the charity
    bicycle rides.  I don't mind advertising the Colin County Volunteer
    Center, the Ride for Life, the Cycle to Recycle, etc.
    
    Bob

-1 ditto plus my Calloway cap. that's it for me.

    I have two Calvin Klein belly shirts with the huge cK logo across the
    front.  I do like them.  They tell everyone, "Hey!  I paid way too much
    just to fit in and look socially acceptable!!  Look at me!!"

    
    >I never wear
    
    You must not wear athletic shoes at all then ? I cannot think of any
    runner/cross trainer, whatever that does not bear the name or logo.
    Unless of course you wear Peter Pan Getaways or Johnny Go Fasters 
    etc >;-)).
    
    Smile'in Jack

    
    	RE: April
    
    	Belly shirts?  If that means that they're only 1/2 shirts, I
    	think I know the real reason that people are constantly star-
    	ing at you.
    

    Well, they go nicely with my hip huggers.  8)

    
      Actually, I wear these things.  Because people give them to me.
     That and books.  They know I read a lot and I wear rags, so they
     try to help me out.  I have T-shirts with logos of companies I've
     never even heard of, jokes I don't get, rock group tours (at least
     I think they are), college teams.  "Go Greenmen !" kind of thing.
    
      I prefer them to the books.  Why do people give me science
     fantasy books ?  The only scifi I read is the hard stuff, with
     real science in it.  And mostly, I prefer non-fiction.  I guess
     they think I'm the type.  Bad guess.
    
      bb

   .30  i would have figured you for non-fiction all the way.

	(and no, Doctah, it's not because i'm so much smarter than
	 everyone else, thank you very much)

"Go Greenmen!"?  I guess there _is_ life on Mars.

    I would have thought people wear Nike,Reebok etc,etc for 1 of 2
    reasons.
    
    a) They feel comfortable whilst running/pole vaulting/playing baksket
    ball etc. (Small %)
    
    b) They are sadly trying to impress total strangers that they can
    afford to spend xyz on a t-shirt/shorts,trainers etc and thus make
    themselves feel superior. (Large %)
    
    

    
    	Somewhat related:
    
    	Troy Aikman has been fined $40K for wearing Adidas sneakers
    	in pre-season football games, because Adidas is not an NFL-
    	sanctioned footwear maker.
    

If the shoe fits, wear it.  Unless it's not officially sanctioned.