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Title:Soapbox. Just Soapbox.
Notice:No more new notes
Moderator:WAHOO::LEVESQUEONS
Created:Thu Nov 17 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:862
Total number of notes:339684

744.0. "Summer '96" by CNTROL::JENNISON (It's all about soul) Thu Jun 20 1996 16:13

    
    	A place for people to laugh, dance, sing or cry about
    	the season. 
    
    	It just seems more appropriate than the Spring '96 topic.
    
    
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744.1EDITEX::MOOREGetOuttaMyChairThu Jun 20 1996 16:153
    
    It's already over 100 degrees here in Dallas.  My cigarettes
    practically light themselves when I smoke outside.
744.2CNTROL::JENNISONIt's all about soulThu Jun 20 1996 16:187
    
    	I didn't complain about the snow or cold this winter, so I
    	have full rights to complain if it gets too hot in the summer.
    
    	The rest of you, well, we took names.
    
    
744.3It "boils" down to thisDECWIN::RALTOJail to the ChiefThu Jun 20 1996 16:278
    In addition to my earlier rant, I'll offer a pseudo-scientific
    observation that in my experience, it's easier to get yourself
    warmer when it's cold than to get yourself cool when it's warm.
    
    Yeah, yeah, swimming pools... :-)  But you can't sleep in one,
    so there.
    
    Chris
744.4POWDML::HANGGELIHeartless JadeThu Jun 20 1996 16:2725
    	
    I'm a-gonna raise a fuss, I'm a-gonna raise a holler
    About a-workin' all summer, just to try to earn a dollar
    Every time I call my baby, try to get a date
    My boss says "No dice son, you gotta work late"
    Sometimes I wonder what I'm a-gonna do
    Cuz there ain't no cure for the summertime blues
    
    Well my mom and poppa told me, "Son, you gotta make some money
    If you wanta use the car to go a-ridin' next Sunday."
    I didn't go to to work, told the boss I was sick
    "Now you can't use the car 'cause you didn't work a lick"
    Sometimes I wonder what I'm a-gonna do
    Cuz there ain't no cure for the summertime blues
    
    I'm gonna take two weeks, gonna have a fine vacation
    I'm gonna take my problem to the United Nations
    Well I called my Congressman and he said, quote:
    "I'd like to help you son, but you're too young to vote"
    Sometimes I wonder what I'm a-gonna do
    Cuz there ain't no cure for the summertime blues
    
    
    -- Eddie Cochrane
    
744.5FABSIX::P_OHALLORANI'll think of somethingThu Jun 20 1996 21:557
    
    It sure won't be easy this summer especially with everything I must do
    like...waterskiing, vollyball, the beach :^), bbcue's, softball,
    baseball, outside cafes. It won't be easy but I think I can do it :^)
    
    
    
744.6THEMAX::E_WALKERThu Jun 20 1996 21:584
         No beaches here, but plenty of good places for camping. Now that
    the rainy season should be over, it's time to take the top off the
    Bronco. Nothing better than a 4-wheel drive, a case of beer, and a few
    assault weapons for a weekend excursion. 
744.7FABSIX::P_OHALLORANI'll think of somethingThu Jun 20 1996 22:093
    
    throw in a white water rafting trip and thats one helluva weekend.
    
744.8POLAR::RICHARDSONHere we are now, in containersThu Jun 20 1996 22:121
    And the K-Y! Don't forget the K-Y!
744.9BIGQ::SILVAI'm out, therefore I amThu Jun 20 1996 22:343

	KY and rubbers don't mix. Use a water based lube
744.10FABSIX::P_OHALLORANI'll think of somethingThu Jun 20 1996 22:354
    
    I don't remember mentioning anything about bringing along women
    
    
744.11FABSIX::P_OHALLORANI'll think of somethingThu Jun 20 1996 22:367
    
     <<< Note 744.9 by BIGQ::SILVA "I'm out, therefore I am" >>>
        >  KY and rubbers don't mix. Use a water based lube
    
    
    nevermind, Im outta here.
    
744.12THEMAX::E_WALKERThu Jun 20 1996 22:464
        Ahem, back to the subject, never been on a rafting trip but they
    look like fun. Kinda expensive, though. Anyone out there ever try it?
    Is it worth the price?
    
744.13FABSIX::P_OHALLORANI&#039;ll think of somethingThu Jun 20 1996 22:558
    
    It's great, I've done it a few times in Maine and it's not too
    expensive providing you get 8-10 people. It's all divided into
    catagories 1-5. 5 being the best. The best time to organize one is
    during the spring and/or early summer because of all the snow melting
    causing the mountain springs to really get all the rivers going. 
    
    
744.14CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowThu Jun 20 1996 23:434


 Summer's here and the time is right for Dancin' in the Street
744.15do you know?FABSIX::P_OHALLORANI&#039;ll think of somethingThu Jun 20 1996 23:484
    
    Van Halen, tell me the name of the album.
    
    
744.16THEMAX::E_WALKERThu Jun 20 1996 23:491
         no, no...not Van Halen, unless it was a remake. 
744.17FABSIX::P_OHALLORANI&#039;ll think of somethingThu Jun 20 1996 23:597
    
    Van Halen, Diver Down 
    
    maybe it was a remake but Van Halens version is the first time I heard
    the song.
    
    
744.18CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowFri Jun 21 1996 00:2921

>      <<< Note 744.17 by FABSIX::P_OHALLORAN "I'll think of something" >>>

    
>    Van Halen, Diver Down 
    
>    maybe it was a remake but Van Halens version is the first time I heard
>    the song.
    
 

   Eeesh, do I feel old..the original was by Martha and the Vandellas, 
   back in the mid 60's..The Grateful Dead used to do a pretty darned good
   rendition of it.




 Jim   

744.19MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Fri Jun 21 1996 01:008
re: Dancin' in the Streets

The only rendition of this I could recall was done by The Mamas & The Papas.
I've got it on CD on something called "TM&TP 16 of Their Greatest Hits", but
I could have sworn I'd been listening to it on LP years ago (and I haven't 
had CDs for more than 4 years). The only TM&TP LP I can find in my collection 
is "If you can believe your eyes and ears", so I dunno. Mebbe the ex- took 
that album years ago.
744.20THEMAX::E_WALKERFri Jun 21 1996 01:533
         I know I've heard it sometime in the past couple of days on this
    annoying oldies station my co-workers insist on blasting all night.
    After a while, though, one song just blurs into another.......
744.21avvagoodweegendGIDDAY::BURTS.I.S.Fri Jun 21 1996 03:448
>one song just blurs into another.......


It's a small world after all,
It's a small world after all,
It's a small world after all,
It's a small, small world.

744.22GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheFri Jun 21 1996 09:557
    
    i don't like summer.  too hot.  well, it's not the heat,  it's the
    humidity.  i much prefer spring and fall.  i don't think i complained
    too much about winter (winter itself, not the bozos that made winter
    annoying), so i am gonna complain about summer.  take it away!
    
    
744.23ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsFri Jun 21 1996 13:444
    
    I love summer!!!!! happy happy joy joy.. tanning season is upon us.
    blessed be the sun worshippers, for they will enjoy eternal tans.
    blessed be the sun worshippers, for they will enjoy melanoma.
744.24AIMHI::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaFri Jun 21 1996 15:1912
    Summer time,
    and the living is easy.....
    
    Perhaps... fight you way outta your driveway due to the tourist. Humid
    days, hot nights... Fight your way thru the crouds to your driveway
    cause the icecream truck has stopped in front of your house, and there
    is a traffic cop, and now your lawn is littered with the entire
    neighborhoods icecream wrappers. I'll tell yha. I get no respect.:)
    Then there is the clothing, yes, watching the women go past the frozen
    foods in the supermarket... aaahhh! There is a God!:) 
    
    
744.25THEMAX::E_WALKERFri Jun 21 1996 18:143
         Yeah, summer's great. Except for the flash-flood I drove through
    on the way to work today, and the winds and hailstorms and terrified
    tourists cluttering the highways...
744.26FABSIX::P_OHALLORANI&#039;ll think of somethingFri Jun 21 1996 21:414
    
    Watching a thunderstorm at the beach while sitting on a deck.
    
    
744.27THEMAX::E_WALKERFri Jun 21 1996 21:483
         Race day, July 4. Time trials starting next week, if I can get up
    at 4:00 AM to watch them. The really good wrecks always happen during
    the trials. 
744.28Vasholz again?SSDEVO::LAMBERTWe &#039;:-)&#039; for the humor impairedFri Jun 21 1996 22:176
   re: .27 

   I can see 'em from the couch in my living room, with binocs...  :-)

   -- Sam  (Woodland Park resident)

744.29MFGFIN::E_WALKERFri Jun 21 1996 23:538
         I'm in Cascade, so I'm right across the highway. You ever go up on
    the Peak for the race? It's great to watch, if you're above timberline
    with a good view of the road. Hope the top doesn't get snowed out again
    - that was a real bummer. I think most of this year's winners will be
    Japanese - they've been putting the most money into their vehicles for
    the past couple of years. They've been running mostly in the unlimited
    class, but that will change. They've got some good, experienced drivers
    too. 
744.30CSC32::M_EVANSI&#039;d rather be gardeningSat Jun 22 1996 18:3513
    Several hours this week pulling weeds, once I get finished with my
    garden I have one of my neighbors to hand weed to the point where
    others can find the rows and hoe it.  Summer looks just like the rest
    of the past year, except it is green.
    
    The Scarlet bush beans are in bloom and making a tasty and colorful
    additions to salads around this place.  The tom's are flowering, and
    despite my best efforts to sexually frustrate them, the peppers are
    setting fruit.  
    
    Good to be home to play.
    
    meg  
744.31ACISS2::LEECHMon Jun 24 1996 16:582
    Yippie!  It's raining!  (no sarcasm here...it was 90-something at
    lunch, and the air was so moisture laden that a fish could breathe it)
744.32CHEFS::COOKSHalf Man,Half BiscuitTue Jun 25 1996 08:485
    Going up to Oxford in the Summer is always nice.
    
    Punting along the river,drinking loads of cider and falling in the
    river is always a great tradition.
    
744.33SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Tue Jun 25 1996 11:506
    .32
    
    > Punting along the river...
    
    YOu wouldn't happen to have a construction plan for a 20-foot punt,
    would you?
744.34CHEFS::COOKSHalf Man,Half BiscuitTue Jun 25 1996 11:599
    Er,nope.
    
    Can`t say I do.
    
    You tend to hire punts on an hourly basis from Oxford,rather than 
    construct them and float it down the river.
    
    
    
744.35possibilities...GAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseTue Jun 25 1996 13:554
    
      A 20 foot punt ?  Do you play for the N.E. Patriots ?
    
      bb
744.36COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertTue Jun 25 1996 17:2658
Tornado touches down in Virginia; rainfall sets record in Pennsylvania
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Copyright � 1996 Nando.net
Copyright � 1996 The Associated Press

FAIRFAX, Va. (Jun 25, 1996 1:53 p.m. EDT) -- A rare tornado in the
Washington area damaged 25 homes and knocked out power to more than 100,000
customers. The storms also produced hail as big as golf balls and lightning
that set fire to apartment buildings.

A utility company mechanic working to restore power in Washington died today
after she touched a high-voltage power line.

The storm system also battered Pennsylvania with large hail and record rain,
and more than 200,000 homes and businesses lost electrical service there and
in Maryland, West Virginia and Ohio.

The tornado moved eastward through the densely populated area during the
afternoon Monday.

"We started to hear rumbling, our ears started popping and then we heard
things flying around," said Gabe Joseph of Centreville. Joseph said he and
his wife herded their children into the basement.

"The skies just opened up," said Walter Evans, manager of the Fair Lanes
bowling alley in Centreville. "The rain was torrential. We have a bunch of
trees in front of the building. They were just leveled."

Fairfax County fire officials condemned five homes and declared 20 others
uninhabitable until repairs were made. About 47,000 customers still had no
electricity this morning, said Patty Campbell, a spokeswoman for Virginia
Power.

In Henrico County, simultaneous lightning strikes started fires in two
apartment buildings about 75 yards apart, damaging 20 apartments and
displacing about 20 people, fire officials said.

In Washington, 38-year-old Delores McRae was killed today while she was
trying to repair a downed line for Potomac Electric Power Co. A woman
seriously burned in Oxon Hill, Md., by a kerosene lamp she was using during
the power outage.

More than 150,000 customers were blacked out in Maryland, where the storms
brought wind up to 75 mph and a funnel cloud that apparently never touched
down.

In Pennsylvania, wind up to 68 mph lashed the western part of the state,
knocking out power to 51,000 homes and businesses.

Officials recorded 3.11 inches of rain at Pittsburgh International Airport,
a record for the date. The old record was 2.38 inches, set in 1950.

The storms also cut power to more than 30,000 customers in West Virginia,
where some small streams were out of their banks, and to some 12,000
customers in Ohio.

Copyright � 1996 Nando.net
744.37FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn&#039;t free.Tue Jun 25 1996 18:556
    
    	re -1
    
    	which of the seven seals got broken?
    
    
744.38POLAR::RICHARDSONHere we are now, in containersTue Jun 25 1996 21:514
    Though it is not an official form of measure, the golf ball has been
    consistently used to describe the size of hail.

    The grapefruit is used to measure cysts, I believe.
744.39THEMAX::E_WALKERTue Jun 25 1996 21:552
         I saw hail once that was actually golf ball sized or larger. But
    that was at about 12000 feet. Never heard of grapefruit sized hail. 
744.40POLAR::RICHARDSONHere we are now, in containersTue Jun 25 1996 22:033
    That's just it, hail is never mentioned until it reaches the size of a
    golf ball. Cysts are never mentioned unless they are the size of
    grapefruit.
744.41CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue Jun 25 1996 23:479

 At one time we saved some golf ball size hail in our freezer..the same golf
 ball sized hail that wiped out the roofs on the whole neighborhood..I've seen
 pictures of grapefruit sized hail that fell in Northwestern Colorado.



 Jim
744.42GIDDAY::BURTS.I.S.Tue Jun 25 1996 23:495
The hailstones in "Twister" were pretty impressive.  But the MOST impressive 
thing was the "non cling" mud that failed to stick to the 4WD!


\C
744.43CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue Jun 25 1996 23:538

 I don't think those hailstones looked realistic, though..




 Jim
744.44THEMAX::E_WALKERTue Jun 25 1996 23:574
         They were actually big chunks of ice launched out of a machine
    that was towed ahead of the truck during the scene. So in a way, the
    movie hailstones were identical to the real thing. See "Twister: First
    Look" on HBO.
744.45THEMAX::SMITH_Ssmeller&#039;s the fellerTue Jun 25 1996 23:591
    Ed, you did that better than the commercial.
744.46BIGQ::SILVAI&#039;m out, therefore I amWed Jun 26 1996 09:076
| <<< Note 744.37 by FABSIX::J_SADIN "Freedom isn't free." >>>

| which of the seven seals got broken?

	If it's broken, then you better get down there to try and save it's
life!
744.47MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Wed Jun 26 1996 20:1119
re: Summer '96

It seems as though I'm still waiting for it. Weather around my place has been
more like either Spring or very late Summer. Usually by this time, we're in
the midst of a very hot humid spell. Instead, except for a week or so in
mid-June, and a half week  or so in mid-May (both of which times when, it was
hot and humid), we've had nothing but dry, breezy warm days and cool (I'm
talking lower 50s) nights, except for the many days that were cool and damp/
rainy/cloudy.

Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not necesarily complaining about the lack of
hot humid weather, although I must admit that the risk exists that I may have
opened the swimming pool for nothing for the first time in 12 years - if we
don't get some heat before mid July, that will be the end of it - but haven't
the past 10 months or so, at least in the Northeast, been way below normal
in terms of temperate-ness?

I think Global warming is failing, Phil.

744.48POLAR::RICHARDSONHere we are now, in containersWed Jun 26 1996 20:427
    Well, some scientists claim that global warming will bring on the next
    ice age due to the salt water flow not getting under the polar ice cap
    due to it rising because of the heat in the rest of the world. North
    Ameica and Northern Europe would be hit hard.

    It might be a good idea to buy some beach front property in Africa
    somewhere. I hear it's going cheap.
744.49THEMAX::SMITH_Ssmeller&#039;s the fellerWed Jun 26 1996 20:452
    Too bad we won't be around to see it
    
744.50POLAR::RICHARDSONHere we are now, in containersWed Jun 26 1996 20:462
    Actually, they say it could take as little as a decade for Canada to be
    under 10 feet of snow and ice.
744.51MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Wed Jun 26 1996 20:582
What's African beachfront going for in Canadian dollars?

744.52POLAR::RICHARDSONHere we are now, in containersWed Jun 26 1996 20:591
    before or after the GST?
744.53ROWLET::AINSLEYDCU Board of Directors CandidateThu Jun 27 1996 00:275
    re: .47
    
    Marina says you'd better keep that pool open until we get there.
    
    Bob
744.54DECWIN::JUDYThat&#039;s *Ms. Bitch* to you!Thu Jun 27 1996 11:357
    
    
    	Jack,
    
    	Fear not, the hot humid weather is expected to arrive this
    	weekend.  May be in the 90's on Sunday.
    
744.55GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheThu Jun 27 1996 16:304
    
    if dat's the case, i just may be visiting our mont-man after work on
    sunday.... :> :>
    
744.56USAT05::HALLRThu Jun 27 1996 17:355
    
    Hi to Marina, Bob.  tell her I appreciate the laughts vial aol.
    
    
    Sorry folks, my typing is worse than usual.......
744.57Heres some fun...CSC32::SCHIMPFThu Jun 27 1996 21:2914
    
    
    How about a week ( 7 day..6 nights ) in the Gulf of Mexico...Via
    Corpus Christi...lots of fishing and some diving....TONS OF SUN!
    3 openings still avail. if anyone is interested?
    
    
    Aug.- Sept.; Sea of Cortez for another Week of BLISS....Fishing,
    Diving.. and of course.. the SUN...
    
    
    sin-te-da
    
    
744.58SCASS1::BARBER_AbacksliderThu Jun 27 1996 21:301
    How much?
744.59exitCSC32::SCHIMPFFri Jun 28 1996 07:525
    Gulf...$375.00
    
    Sea of Cortez...Idunnoyet..
    
    
744.60Another thing to hate about summerDECWIN::RALTOJail to the ChiefFri Jun 28 1996 10:566
    Poison ivy, did I mention poison ivy?  One of my kids is covered
    with poison ivy rash this morning.  He was safer playing in the snow
    all winter, than he was retrieving a ball in the woods for ten
    seconds in the summer.
    
    Chris
744.61a few grams of prevention...WAHOO::LEVESQUEfeeling stronger every dayFri Jun 28 1996 11:071
    Clue your kid into avoiding the shiny leaflets three.
744.62Judgment call went the wrong wayDECWIN::RALTOJail to the ChiefFri Jun 28 1996 11:298
    > Clue your kid into avoiding the shiny leaflets three.
    
    Oh I have, but he'd overthrown his friend's ball into the woods, and
    he felt obligated to retrieve it for him.
    
    A new ball would've been cheaper...
    
    Chris
744.63WAHOO::LEVESQUEfeeling stronger every dayFri Jun 28 1996 11:4011
    > Oh I have, but he'd overthrown his friend's ball into the woods, and
    >he felt obligated to retrieve it for him.
    
     And what did you tell him to do when he'd (inadvertently or
    intentionally) exposed himself to PI? Unless he's _really_ allergic,
    washing with soap soon after exposure prevents epidermal reactions.
    I regularly have to walk through poison ivy to get to a secluded spot
    for relief of the natural outcome of liquid ingestion where we play
    b-ball at lunch. Exposure is no problem because the sweat on my legs
    coupled with the shower within an hour of exposure prevents the oils
    from achieving sufficient contact to cause the reaction.
744.64re: poison ivyASABET::DCLARKSBU Technology GroupFri Jun 28 1996 11:508
    there's a product called Tec-Nu (I get it at CVS) that does a good
    job of 'unlocking' the poison ivy oils from your skin. The earlier
    you apply it, the better it works, but it works good on cases where
    the rash is already in progress. For advanced cases, put a lot on
    and let it sit for a while, then wipe it off gently. I weed-whacked
    my field a few weeks ago (with a ground cover of poison ivy), and
    rubbed myself down with Tec-Nu before I showered; no problem at
    all.
744.65NUBOAT::HEBERTCaptain BlighFri Jun 28 1996 11:524
You'll be scratchin' like a hound,
The minute you start to mess around...f
        POISON I-VY-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y
        PO-O-O-ISIN I-VY-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y
744.66CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowFri Jun 28 1996 12:114

 late at night when you're sleepin'
 poison ivy come a creepin' around..
744.67Nobody saw the PI leaves, including himDECWIN::RALTOJail to the ChiefFri Jun 28 1996 12:167
    > And what did you tell him to do when he'd (inadvertently or
    > intentionally) exposed himself to PI?
    
    Nothing, since I wasn't there.  He didn't realize he'd exposed
    himself until this morning when he woke up with the rash.
    
    Chris
744.68MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5&#039;2&#039;&#039; 95 lbs.Fri Jun 28 1996 12:181
    What does PI mean???
744.69 MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5&#039;2&#039;&#039; 95 lbs.Fri Jun 28 1996 12:181
    
744.70CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowFri Jun 28 1996 12:208

 follow the discussion Jack, and I bet you can figure it out.




 Jim
744.71MagnumAMN1::RALTOJail to the ChiefFri Jun 28 1996 13:523
    PI = Private Investigator, badge number 3.14
    
    Chris
744.72ACISS1::SCHELTERFri Jun 28 1996 15:125
    <--  good'uns
    
    
    Mike
    
744.73It's FrrrridayAMN1::RALTOJail to the ChiefFri Jun 28 1996 15:2212
            <<< Note 744.67 by DECWIN::RALTO "Jail to the Chief" >>>
    
    > Nothing, since I wasn't there.  He didn't realize he'd exposed
    > himself until this morning when he woke up with the rash.
    
    I just re-read this, and you know, it looks pretty bad out of
    context.  Sounds like "Tales of the Flasher".
    
    It would've been worse if I'd said "he'd exposed himself to the P.I.",
    though.
    
    Chris
744.74FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn&#039;t free.Sun Jun 30 1996 12:5414
    
    
    	re: poison ivy
    
    	gad, I've had poison ivy so much in my life I think it's just a
    ritual of summer. :) I react severly to poision ivy (even if I wash it
    off right away) and it spreads along me like wild fire. Still doesn't
    stop me from going in the woods and banging around. Even tho' I know
    what all the poisonous plants look like (oak, sumac, ivy), I still get
    a case at least once every summer. Sometimes I need prednisone(sp?) to
    clear it up.
    
    	
    jim
744.75TROOA::TEMPLETONRealistic DreamerSun Jun 30 1996 22:5816
    Went out yesterday and got myself something I have wanted for years, a
    garden pond.
    It started to rain while we were on the way home, it kept on raining
    all night.
    This morning the back yard was a bog, by the time the sun and wind had
    dried it up enough to walk on, it was too hot to stay out.
    When there was enough shade for me to go out and work in, the skeeters
    were out.
    My pond is still sitting by the back door waiting to go out. I did not
    even get a chance to lay out the shape I want.
    Maybe I should have put this in the TTHT but it is a summer thing, yes?
    
    Ah well, to-morrow is supposed to be less humid and not as warm and I
    plan to be out there bright and early.
    
    joan
744.76MFGFIN::TILLBERGMAT. BOY - American LoserTue Jul 02 1996 23:505
        I wish I had your problem, my friend. It has not rained in my
    village now for three months. The drought has killed all my sheep and
    14 of my goats. I cannot afford to have irrigation ditches dug, and my
    family and I are toiling night and day trying to save the crops. Life
    is very hard here this year. 
744.77FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn&#039;t free.Wed Jul 03 1996 08:326
    
    	re: .76
    
    	Yer too much...:)
    
    
744.78NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Jul 03 1996 10:592
Wait a second.  Are those dried-up goats you're offering for the 10 year old?
How about a little truth in advertising?
744.79CHEFS::COOKSHalf Man,Half BiscuitFri Jul 05 1996 12:069
    At the moment it`s chucking it down cats and dogs. It`s it absolute 
    crap July.
    
    So stick that in your village and smoke your pipe. What happened to
    good ol` Global Warming and the greenhouse effect??
    
    I guess people must have gotten rid of their greenhouses,`cos it`s
    not as hot as it has been.
    
744.80wacky tempsNABSCO::MUNNSdaveMon Jul 08 1996 16:024
    115 degrees F in Cleveland, Oklahoma over the holiday weekend.  Felt
    like living in a furnace with a hot wind drying you out.  Fortunately,
    the water sports helped us survive.  60 degrees F in Colorado Springs 
    today, too cold to go outside !
744.81BIGQ::SILVAI&#039;m out, therefore I amMon Jul 08 1996 17:065
| <<< Note 744.80 by NABSCO::MUNNS "dave" >>>

| Fortunately, the water sports helped us survive.  

	GAK!
744.82FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn&#039;t free.Mon Jul 08 1996 17:115
    
    	It's VERY humid out here in Hudson MA right now....I'm still
    cooling down almost 30mins after my run.
    
    
744.83BIGQ::SILVAI&#039;m out, therefore I amMon Jul 08 1996 17:203

	Try taking a shower......
744.84NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Jul 08 1996 17:251
Dave, Cleveland is in another one of those "O" states.  HTH.
744.85POWDML::HANGGELIHeartless JadeMon Jul 08 1996 17:274
    
    Oh?
    
    
744.86ACISS2::LEECHMon Jul 08 1996 18:105
    It was 90+ here yesterday (one bank sign said "95", but I wonder how
    accurate it was)...really didn't seem too bad, though.  The
    humidity must have been much lower than the usual 95%.
    
    Nice bit of extended weekend weather, actually. 
744.87BSS::DSMITHRATDOGS DON&#039;T BITEMon Jul 08 1996 18:509
    
    >60 degrees F in Colorado Springs today, too cold to go outside !
    
     What it's been running close to 90 the past few days here in CS 60
    feels just GRATE! Hang around till it gets down to -15 then its cold.
    
    60 in CS feels just fine, only wish I could go fish'n
    
    Dave
744.88THEMAX::SMITH_SI (neuter) my (catbutt)Mon Jul 08 1996 18:544
    I couldn't believe it walking outside today. Compared to yesterday it's
    FREEZING.
    -ss-shivering-at-the-thought
    
744.89Ran into a rainstormCSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue Jul 09 1996 01:3815


 Hurricane Bertha is on the move..



      that's why if you please
      I am on my bended knees
      Bertha don't you come around here anymore..




 Jim
744.90THEMAX::SMITH_SI (neuter) my (catbutt)Tue Jul 09 1996 01:501
    Catchy
744.91FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn&#039;t free.Tue Jul 09 1996 08:217
    
    
    115mph winds at last weather forcast. Damage was less than expected in
    the islands. 30% chance that it'll hit Florida.
    
    
    jim
744.92Batten down the hatches!COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertThu Jul 11 1996 10:524
The map at http://www.hawaii.edu/News/localweather/atl.latest.gif predicts
Bertha making landfall at Wilmington, NC, heading back out to sea at Norfolk,
and then passing right over the elbow of the Cape.

744.93WAHOO::LEVESQUEbon marcher, as far as she can tellThu Jul 11 1996 10:551
    Swell. Daughter #1 lives in Kitty Hawk, and #2 lives in Chesapeake.
744.94...for intergovernmental use only...COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertThu Jul 11 1996 11:0256
wtnt42 knhc 110909 cor
tcdat2
...for intergovernmental use only...
hurricane bertha discussion number  29
national weather service miami fl
5 am edt thu jul 11 1996
...corrected...72hr vt point is not inland... 
recon observations indicated that the eyewall had deteriorated but
then reappeared a few hours later.  central pressure was holding
near 972 mb and the plane reported some very warm temps...18 to 19
deg c at 700 mb...in the center.  bertha has very intense convection
near the center and some banding features...but no eye is seen in
the ir satellite imagery.  upper-level outflow is strong except over
the northwest quadrant...where it is probably being inhibited by the
back side of a mid-latitude trough which is propagating eastward. 
current intensity estimate is 85 knots but this may be inflated a
bit...considering the latest flight-level wind data.  little
significant change in strength is forecast.  however...after the
trough passes there is a possibility that bertha could intensify a
little since the hurricane is over warm water and could pass over
even warmer waters...i.e. the gulf stream.
 
the forward speed has slowed some more...to 330/11.  at 500 mb...the
mid-latitude trough that has drawn bertha more northward is now
approximately in phase with the tropical cyclone.  this trough will
move on...and presumably leave bertha behind.  the next upstream
trough looks much weaker in the emc global model predictions...and
it appears that bertha will need to reach the latitude of the
carolinas before it can be significantly impacted by this trough.
there is a strong deep-layer anticyclone to the east-northeast of
bertha.  the latter feature should provide a northward steering
component to keep the hurricane moving along at around 10-11 knots.
unfortunately...it appears that this anticyclone will prevent the
tropical cyclone from turning significantly eastward before it
reaches the coastline.  there is still a possibility that bertha
could recurve eastward and miss the coast entirely as shown by the
barotropic guidance.  however all of our primitive equation
guidance... including the gfdl model...bring the hurricane
over land within 36 hours...and so does our official forecast.
 
the landfall timing is critically dependent on the heading of bertha
when it approaches the coast.  our present thinking is that the
center will be near the coast on friday.  one should bear in mind
that this is a large hurricane.  tropical storm force winds could be
near the coast in the warning area much earlier...by this evening. 
 
pasch
 
forecast positions and max winds
 
initial     11/0900z 28.8n  77.0w    85 kts
12hr vt     11/1800z 30.4n  77.7w    85 kts
24hr vt     12/0600z 32.5n  78.0w    85 kts
36hr vt     12/1800z 34.5n  78.0w    85 kts...inland
48hr vt     13/0600z 37.0n  76.5w    65 kts...inland
72hr vt     14/0600z 42.5n  68.5w    60 kts
744.95At 2 AM SundayCOVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertThu Jul 11 1996 11:135
>72hr vt     14/0600z 42.5n  68.5w    60 kts

FYI, that's about 130 miles due east of Boston Harbor.

/john
744.96MFGFIN::E_WALKERI (rake) my (hamster)Thu Jul 11 1996 20:163
         Can't believe nobody out there knows about the Pike's Peak Hill
    Climb, or any other racing events for that matter. C'mon, people, it's
    summer! I know there has to be other race fans out there.
744.97BUSY::SLABOUNTYAct like you own the companyThu Jul 11 1996 20:186
    
    	No one knows, or no one cares?
    
    	I'd go with the latter, but I don't need it because I'm already
    	pretty tall.
    
744.98?!?MFGFIN::E_WALKERI (rake) my (hamster)Thu Jul 11 1996 21:163
         What are you talking about? You and that Mr. Bill guy should get
    togather and start your own conference - call it Total Random
    Statements.
744.99BULEAN::BANKSFri Jul 12 1996 10:285
I was always more impressed with the Pikes Peak Marathon, the Adaman club,
and the Mt. Evans Hill Climb (bicycle race).

The Pikes Peak Hill Climb always struck me as an all-too-not-rare
combination of too much horsepower and not enough common sense.
744.100BIGQ::SILVAI&#039;m out, therefore I amFri Jul 12 1996 10:291
                             pikes peak snarf!!!
744.101WAHOO::LEVESQUEbon marcher, as far as she can tellFri Jul 12 1996 10:513
    >all-too-not-rare
    
     Izzat anything like all-too-common?
744.102BUSY::SLABOUNTYAntisocialFri Jul 12 1996 10:587
    
    	RE: .98
    
    	This isn't rocket science, Ed.  I've heard of the Pike's Peak
    	Hill climb, but I have no interest in it.  Ergo, I don't care
    	about it.
    
744.103SCASS1::BARBER_ASpankyFri Jul 12 1996 11:021
    Shawn, you threw him off with the "latter" comment.
744.104COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertFri Jul 12 1996 11:04298
Federal Emergency Management Agency Emergency Support Team FEMA
Headquarters Emergency Information and Coordination Center

SITUATION REPORT #5 Hurricane Bertha Reporting Period: from 7 am., July
11, 1996 to 7 a.m. July 12, 1996 (All times not
otherwise stated are Eastern Daylight Times)

BACKGROUND:  As of 2:00 am EDT Friday, July 12, Hurricane Bertha
was located near latitude 31.2 north and longitude 78.6 west or
about 215 miles south of Wilmington, North Carolina. Maximum
sustained winds are near 80 mph and little significant change in
strength is expected before landfall.  Bertha is a weak Category
1 hurricane on the Saffir/Simpson Scale. Bertha is moving toward
the north-northwest at 9 mph.  The center of the hurricane is
expected to be near the coast around mid-day today, 7/12/96.
Hurricane force winds extend outward up to 115 miles from the
center and tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 200
miles.  The most recent forecast track has shifted to the west
with landfall of the center of the hurricane expected Friday
12:00 pm near Cape Romain, SC.  The population in the entire
warned area can expect hurricane force winds, torrential rains
and storm surge.

CURRENT SITUATION:

The Region IV Alternate Regional Operations Center (A-ROC), was
activated on July 11, 1996, at 7 a.m. EDT at the Cobb County
Fairgrounds.

The ROC Directors are C. Richard Mayson and Mary Lynne Miller.
The Operations Chiefs are Tommy Moore and Don Hammonds.

North Carolina's Office of Emergency Management has declared a
State of Emergency and has ordered a mandatory evacuation for
Hatteras and Ocracoke barrier islands.  This evacuation appears
to be progressing smoothly. An evacuation order for Dare County
and the northern Outer Banks was issued at 1:00 PM today.  The
Port of Wilmington, NC, is closed to all traffic but all
airports and associated facilities in the threatened area are
still open.  South Carolina authorities have encouraged
voluntary evacuations of coastal islands.

FEMA has designated Fort Bragg, NC, as a primary mobilization
center for the receipt and dispersal of disaster relief
supplies.

Region III:  Delaware:  Under partial activation.  Full EOC
activation to begin at 8:00 am, 7/12/96.  District of Columbia:
No activation at this time.  Maryland:  Activated as of 6:00 am,
7/11/96.  Maryland Emergency Management Agency (MEMA) staff have
been in contact with their counties and Ocean City.  Discussion
of potential Ocean City evacuation is ongoing.  Virginia:  State
EOC is partially activated with a communications watch for the
evening.  Planning for a full activation at 5:00 am, 7/13/96.
Governor Allen announced a State of Emergency for Virginia as of
3:00 pm, 7/11/96.

The Region III ROC is preparing for full activation on 7/12/96.
All ESF's have been notified and are on standby.  The Nuclear
Regulatory Commission (NRC) Region I will deploy a specialist to
the Calvert Cliffs satellite communications area on 7/12/96.

CASUALTIES:  Three storm related deaths have been reported in
Puerto Rico.  One was a surfer and two were automobile accidents
caused by rain slick roads.  No confirmed deaths and no apparent
major injuries have been reported in the Virgin Islands
(reported by Region II).  There are unconfirmed reports of a
swimmer fatality in Florida.

WEATHER FORECAST: Bertha continues moving slowly toward the
southeast US coast.  Hurricane warnings remain in effect from
Brunswick, Georgia,  northward to the North Carolina/Virginia
border including Albemarle and Pamlico sounds.  Hurricane
warnings for the Georgia coast will likely be lowered later this
morning.  A hurricane watch remains in effect from the North
Carolina/Virginia border to Chincoteague, Virginia, including
the southern Chesapeake Bay.  Most of the strong winds and heavy
rain are located to the north and east of the center.  Winds
have already begun to increase along the coast in the warning
area and will continue to do so during the morning.  Heavy surf
conditions are expected along portions of the southeast US
coast.  Storm surge flooding of 6 to 8 feet above normal tide is
expected near and to the east of where the center crosses the
coast.  Rainfall totals of 5 to 8 inches are expected along the
path of Bertha.

SEVERITY OF IMPACT:

Utilities:  Electric power generation and distribution systems:
Region II reports the Brunswick Nuclear Power Station near
Wilmington, NC, planned to have Units 1 and 2 in cold shut down
on the afternoon of July 11 in anticipation of Bertha's
landfall.  The Region II emergency van arrived at the Brunswick
Emergency Operating Facility (EOF) at 4 PM on Wednesday, July
10, 1996.  Regional officials have tested the satellite
communications unit in the van and have established
communications with the Regional HQ.

STATUS OF DECLARATIONS:  President Clinton signed a major
disaster declaration for the United States Virgin Islands on
7/11/96.  The disaster identification number is DR-1126-VI.

STATUS OF FEDERAL OPERATIONS


D.      OPERATIONS SECTION

OPERATIONS SUPPORT BRANCH

ESF #1 (Transportation):

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has begun to secure
navigational equipment and fuel generators in the hurricane
warning area.

The Coast Guard is conducting port surveys and is preparing to
conduct search and rescue operations.  Some equipment in the
coastal areas of North Carolina and South Carolina is being
relocated inland.  The Coast Guard has sent two representatives
to the Virginia State EOC in Richmond with the FEMA ERT-A.

Department of Transportation's (DOT) Crisis Management Center
will be activated on 7/12/96 at 8:00 am.

ESF #2 (Communications):  Atlanta ROC:  ESF #2 was contacted by
the United States Public Health Service (USPHS) with a request
for assistance to identify a source to obtain 40 hand-held
radios, a repeater, and a base station for possible deployment
to North Carolina.  ESF #2 contacted the United States Forestry
Service with the request to supply the required radios for
USPHS.  Forestry service advised that they have the radios and
will stand by for tasking to ship radios and technicians.  ESF
#2 is waiting for formal tasking and funding source from USPHS.

National Coordinating Center (NCC) Operations:  ESF #2 personnel
are staffing the Emergency Support Team (EST) on a 24 hour
schedule.  The NCC will continue to staff during the day.
Support personnel have been identified to travel should a
disaster be declared and the Federal Emergency Communications
Coordinator (FECC) requests support.  Telco carriers have been
advised that Emergency Response Teams have been mobilized for
Richmond, VA and Raleigh, NC and the carriers should make every
effort to assist them in planning and preparation.  No impact on
telecommunications reported at this time.

ESF #7 (Resource Support):  The General Services Administration
(GSA) is being represented at the ROCs in Atlanta and
Philadelphia.  GSA has deployed the ESF #2 and #7 elements in
FEMA Regions III and VII to North Carolina and Region VIII  to
South Carolina.  Region X is on standby to assist Region III.
The GSA National Capital Region is to be prepared to support all
responding regions.

FEMA Headquarters ordered the release of all plastic sheeting
being held in a warehouse in Fort Worth, TX.  GSA is arranging
the transportation of the items to Fort Gillem.

INFRASTRUCTURE SUPPORT BRANCH

ESF #3 (Public Works and Engineering):  USVI:  The Corps of
Engineers will be conducting briefings on waterway navigation.
Also they will discuss the requirements for roofing
repair/replacement support.

Contingency Planning in the Event of Landfall:  The Corps of
Engineers have identified displacement locations for lead
Southeastern divisions and districts, identified backup command
elements and established command and control transition
procedures and prepared to relocate Initial Response Resources
(IRR) items pre-positioned in the Southeastern coastal States.

United States Army Corps of Engineers (USACE):  Personnel from
various Corps divisions are being mobilized to support the South
Atlantic Division (SAD) to serve on the various ERT-A teams.
The EOC remains at Level II activation.  The EOC is maintaining
coordination with FEMA, the Director of Military Support (DOMS)
and subordinate elements.

Three SAD districts (Savannah, Wilmington and Charleston) have
executed pre-hurricane checklists.  Two of the other districts
(Jacksonville and Mobile) remain in a support role.  The North
Atlantic Division (NAD) has executed pre-hurricane checklists
and is coordinating with the Wilmington District to their
south.

Prime Power completed power generation assessments in the USVI
in accordance with a FEMA directive.  The SAD prepared 50
generators, ranging from 12 - 455 kws, for deployment  to
potential stateside disaster sites.

FEMA has issued mission assignments to ESF #3 to deploy ERT-A
and FAsT teams to support potential emergency response to 4
states (GA, SC, NC, and VA).  ESF #3 ERT-A representatives have
deployed to state EOC's in SC and NC .  An ESF #3 FAsT
representative deployed to Charlotte, NC, ETA 2000 hours, 11
July 1996.

HUMAN SERVICES BRANCH

ESF #11 (Food):

Region II:  Food and Commodity Service (FCS) staff are
continuing to gather information and conduct damage assessments,
working with Virgin Island officials.  Additional food requests
from the Virgin Islands have not been received.

Region IV:  FCS staff are on stand-by for deployment to North
Carolina and South Carolina.  Food inventories in both states
appear to be sufficient for an immediate food response.
Inventories available include fruits, vegetables, meats, pasta,
juices, infant formula and cereals.

Voluntary Organizations:

The public is able to call the following national voluntary
agencies with offers of goods and services:

Adventist Community Services 800 253-3000  (24 hours) Cash
donations also

American Red Cross 800 7IN-KIND  (8 am - 8 pm) 800 HELP-NOW for
cash donations

Salvation Army 800 SAL-ARMY Cash donations also

FEMA EST donations made contact with State donations
coordinators in North and South Carolina to determine the level
of support required from FEMA.

North Carolina in coordination with the North Carolina
Interfaith and the Telephone Pioneers will establish a State
donations phone bank.

South Carolina will rely on the national toll-free numbers of
the key voluntary agencies.

EMERGENCY SERVICES BRANCH

ESF #4 (Firefighting):  The Southern Area Interagency Incident
Management Team was ordered at 1400 hours EDT, 7/11/96, for
deployment to Fort Bragg, NC.  The team will be on site at 2000
to 2200 hours.  The Team will manage the mobilization center for
receiving and distributing relief supplies.  To support the
Team, two helicopter modules are ordered to assist with relief
supplies as needed.  ESF #7 at the Region IV ROC is procuring
trucking services for distribution of supplies.  ESF #4
continues to coordinate with Region III and Region IV ROC
units.


ESF #9 (Urban Search and Rescue):  Due to the weakening of
Hurricane Bertha, all US&R assets that had been on "alert" since
July 8th have been ordered to "stand-down" effective at 1430
hours on July 11th.  At its current strength it is considered
highly unlikely that there will be an US&R mission associated
with Hurricane Bertha.  The situation is being carefully watched
and advisories are still being distributed to all Task Forces to
maintain a high level of situational awareness within the
system.


MITIGATION:  Mitigation continues to be activated and ready to
respond.  In preparation, mitigation and the National Flood
Insurance Program (NFIP) issues regarding possible erosion and
flood damage in coastal areas and potential inland flooding due
to heavy rains are being identified.

EMERGENCY INFORMATION AND MEDIA AFFAIRS:  Arrangements were made
to allow television stations to uplink the morning and afternoon
update meetings between the Director, field staff, and the
National Hurricane Center.

WUSA (Channel 9 local news) will video tape an interview of
Emergency Response Team personnel for broadcast between 5 am and
7 am.  NBC's Today Show will be on air via cable from FEMA
during their morning broadcast.  CNN will cover the FEMA
Director's morning briefing for broadcast between 9-10:00 am.
FOX will broadcast live from FEMA's Emergency Support Team area
between 6-8:30 am.

Public Affairs Officers (PAOs) have been deployed from other
FEMA regions to accompany the advance element of the Emergency
Response Team to North Carolina and South Carolina.  The PAO
from Region VI will provide hurricane-related public affairs
support to Region IV in North Carolina and Region VIII's PAO
will handle hurricane-related needs in South Carolina.

FEMA's Radio Network carried soundbites from all participants at
today's briefings.  Radio stations can access and record the
soundbites by calling a special tollfree number.

Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)
Office of Emergency Information & Public Affairs --- Washington, D.C.

Information Available 24 hours a day . . . 
 ... on the World Wide Web:  http://www.fema.gov
 ... via fax-on-demand: phone in the U.S.A. (202) 646-FEMA (646-3362)
 ... via digital audio for broadcasters & print: contact [email protected]
744.105BIGQ::SILVAI&#039;m out, therefore I amFri Jul 12 1996 11:0920
From:	PONYEX::PONYEX::MRGATE::"SALES::A1::EHS" 11-JUL-1996 17:18:47.30
To:	@Distribution_List
CC:	
Subj:	WEB PAGE TO TRACK HURRICANE BERTHA                                     1

From:	NAME: Environment, Health, & Safety  <EHS@A1@SALES@PKO>
To:     See Below

  	Hurricane Safety Information
  
  With the potential for Hurricane Bertha to strike anywhere on the East 
  coast, the Environment, Health and Safety Resource Center has set up a 
  web page at
  
  		http://www.imc.das.dec.com/ehs/rc/
  
  In addition to providing storm tracking information, the site has 
  links to hurricane facts and safety information for home and work.
  
  
744.106BUSY::SLABOUNTYAntisocialFri Jul 12 1996 11:138
    
    	RE: April
    
    	Probably.
    
    	Then again, I could achieve the same result by discussing basic
    	arithmetic.
    
744.107MFGFIN::E_WALKEREdward S. WalkerFri Jul 12 1996 18:412
         What?!? How dare you insult the greatest racing event of all
    time?!? You'll pay for your blasphemy, BANKS. 
744.108MFGFIN::E_WALKEREdward S. WalkerFri Jul 12 1996 19:423
         Hey, speaking of summer, why isn't there a baseball topic in here?
    It's not as good as football or hockey, but it's all we get at this
    time of the year. 
744.109CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowSat Jul 13 1996 12:2314
>         Hey, speaking of summer, why isn't there a baseball topic in here?
>    It's not as good as football or hockey, but it's all we get at this
>    time of the year. 



   Let me see if I can help..at the NOTES> prompt type "dir/title=baseball".
   report back to us on your findings.




 Jim
744.110BIGQ::SILVAI&#039;m out, therefore I amSat Jul 13 1996 20:113

	Jim, do you think he will find it? 
744.111MFGFIN::E_WALKEREdward S. WalkerTue Jul 16 1996 19:013
         No, it's just not there. Or it's totally dead. No racing topic
    either. 
    
744.112Chris+, I could prolly beat them boys with my bicycleVMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyThu Jul 18 1996 17:0713
    re: Note 744.107 by MFGFIN::E_WALKER
    
    } What?!? How dare you insult the greatest racing event of all
    } time?!?
    
    Yawn. ya, so what were you drivin? Oh, you was spectatoring...
    
    Ifn you want to get people excited you gotta go real fast.  
    See you at the Drags, or in Daytona, Charlotte, Atlanta, Talladega,
    Martinsville, Rockingham, etc....
    
    MadMike
    
744.113MFGFIN::E_WALKEREvil EdThu Jul 18 1996 18:514
         I'm a NASCAR fan too, it's just that I don't get to Charlotte or
    Daytona very often. The hill climb is one race I can watch live, right
    across the street from my house. You think driving 130+ mph up Pike's
    Peak is boring?!?
744.114Drag RacerVMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyFri Jul 19 1996 10:325
    Shhhh... between me and you... I like watching that stuff too.
    
    I'd much rather be RACING than watching though.
    
    MadMike
744.115Lousy summerMFGFIN::E_WALKERKabal wins.....FATALITYThu Aug 15 1996 19:026
         I just realized that this summer is almost over and it has been
    completely WORTHLESS!!! Usually I try to take a trip or something, but
    this summer I did absolutely nothing. I can't even think of the
    upcoming winter without going suicidal. I think the time went by so
    fast because all of us here at CXO know our days are numbered and we
    just want to get it all over with. 
744.116POLAR::RICHARDSONRanch send no girlThu Aug 15 1996 19:404
    Yabbut, you can just jump in your car and drive to Arizona or something
    in the winter.
    
    How do you think I feel eh?
744.117MFGFIN::E_WALKERKabal wins.....FATALITYThu Aug 15 1996 19:434
         This year I think I'll winter in Las Vegas, eh??? Except that the
    last time I went there, it actually snowed for the first time in years.
    It wasn't snow by Colorado standards, but you could see the flakes in
    the air. Just goes to prove that winter can find you almost anywhere. 
744.118POLAR::RICHARDSONRanch send no girlThu Aug 15 1996 19:473
    Winter always finds me.
    
    
744.119GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Thu Aug 15 1996 19:503
    re: .115
    
    It could be worse. You could live in Boston!   Hehehehe
744.120THEMAX::SMITH_SR.I.P.-30AUG96Thu Aug 15 1996 19:561
    <------Good point!
744.121SCASS1::BARBER_Aall of which are American dreamsThu Aug 15 1996 23:431
    What's snow?
744.122MFGFIN::EPPERSONtoo much livin` is no way to dieThu Aug 15 1996 23:451
    You should visit Colorado sometime.
744.123THEMAX::SMITH_SR.I.P.-30AUG96Thu Aug 15 1996 23:472
    I don't think it snows that much here.
    
744.124MFGFIN::EPPERSONtoo much livin` is no way to dieThu Aug 15 1996 23:491
    Not that much - but surely enough.
744.125THEMAX::SMITH_SR.I.P.-30AUG96Thu Aug 15 1996 23:511
    Yes, a little is toooo much.
744.126SCASS1::BARBER_Aall of which are American dreamsThu Aug 15 1996 23:553
    I hear that snow is this white flakey substance, but I can't be sure.
    
    Can anyone confirm?
744.127THEMAX::SMITH_SR.I.P.-30AUG96Thu Aug 15 1996 23:591
    No, look on your shoulders.
744.128SCASS1::BARBER_Aall of which are American dreamsFri Aug 16 1996 00:011
    I take umbrellas.
744.129ACISS1::BATTISNew Chevy Blazer ownerMon Aug 19 1996 10:553
    
    'pril, I've been told it does on occasion, snow in Dallas. oh, sorry
    thats your football team. nevermind.
744.130MFGFIN::E_WALKERKabal wins.....FATALITYMon Aug 19 1996 18:082
         Them Cowboys didn't look too impressive last Saturday. 20-3?!? A
    beating by the Broncos?!?
744.131GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Mon Aug 19 1996 18:362
    <-----------  And with Smith out for four weeks, it could get worse.
    Couldn't happen to a nicer team, and coach, IMO.
744.132PredictionsMFGFIN::E_WALKERKabal wins.....FATALITYMon Aug 19 1996 18:458
         It will get worse for the Cowboys, with all their suspensions and
    injuries. Don't expect them to get a strong start on this season, but
    they should start to pull togather by week 6. Look for them in the
    Super Bowl again, only because the rest of the NFC is so weak this year
    (with the exceptions of Green Bay and SF, of course). In the AFC, watch
    the Colts. Miami isn't ready yet to go all the way and the Raiders, as
    we've seen countless times, have a tendency to self destruct in mid
    season. 
744.133THEMAX::SMITH_SR.I.P.-30AUG96Mon Aug 19 1996 19:361
    Go Pats!
744.134ACISS1::BATTISNew Chevy Blazer ownerTue Aug 20 1996 17:373
    
    Ed, you could very well be correct. watch out for kansas city and new
    england, however. both will surprise this year.
744.135CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each daySun Sep 22 1996 23:5711
744.136POLAR::RICHARDSONThere ain&#039;t no easy way outMon Sep 23 1996 00:032
744.137FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn&#039;t free.Mon Sep 23 1996 08:266
744.138ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyMon Sep 23 1996 10:055
744.139THEMAX::E_WALKERI&#039;d rather be in VegasMon Sep 23 1996 18:002
744.140BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.yvv.com/decplus/Mon Sep 23 1996 18:165
744.141ACISS1::BATTISBlazer BoyThu Sep 26 1996 10:563
744.142MFGFIN::E_WALKERI&#039;d rather be in VegasThu Sep 26 1996 18:211
744.143CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsThu Sep 26 1996 18:211
744.144BUSY::SLABMoving in stereoThu Sep 26 1996 18:385
744.145MFGFIN::E_WALKERI&#039;d rather be in VegasThu Sep 26 1996 18:412
744.146BUSY::SLABMoving in stereoThu Sep 26 1996 18:463
744.147MFGFIN::E_WALKERI&#039;d rather be in VegasThu Sep 26 1996 18:521
744.149BUSY::SLABNew Yorkers frisk their childrenFri Sep 27 1996 12:147