Conference back40::soapbox

    lie 
    con
    cheat
    scrounge
    steal
    And that's all before breakfast !
    sleep
    read
    doodle
    drink (water)
    annoy as many people as possible
    look busy 
    

    Special Agent

    My job is:
    
    1) Installing everything, by virtue of reading manuals, in front of
       hostile customers.  Also known as layering.
    
    2) Hoping the Reading engineer didn't have too many yards the night
       before he programmed.
    
    3) Explaining to customers that I do not live in Colorado Springs.
    
    4) Dreading end-of-quarter, when tiny gnomes spring forth from the
       woodwork expecting a detailed rehash of something I worked on
       for 2 hours, 3 months ago.
    
    I've worked on Digital products since 1978, under VMS 1.0.  I've
    worked for Digital for 1 year, 2 months, 3 days, 16 hours, and 19
    minutes.  
    

Writing programs, taking support calls, evaluating software, running a
news server, and having to visit Inland Revenue sites.

Chris.

    
    
    Trying to pretend I still work here for the next two weeks.
    
    Attempting to get all the work done that's been piled on me since
    folks found out I was leaving.
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

  
  - Create and retain special data backups as requested; restore data if
    needed. Ship out and recall tapes as required. Protect and preserve
    data integrity.
  
  - Monitor regular backup activities and ensure a sufficient supply of
    tape media and consumable supplies.
  
  - Ensure sufficient supply of paper, toner and ribbons for Data Centre
    printers.
  
  - Print and burst jobs on the LG02 and LP29.
  
  - Upon request, download data to tape for delivery to third parties.
    This includes both regular monthly microfiching and special requests.
  
  - Maintain records pertaining to offsite tape storage, incoming and
    outgoing hardware and supplies, and non-routine activities.
  
  - Create and maintain Operations reference and procedures documents,
    including a current floor plan.
  
  - Transmit CDS Direct Deposits to bank.
  
  - Prepare Daily or Weekly Status Reports as requested by management.
  
  - Assist the System Managers and Command Centre in identifying any current
    or potential hardware issues. Provide input and recommendations.
  
  - Identify any necessary power supply requirements, such as cables and 
    circuit breakers, and arrange for their installation prior to need.
  
  - Identify any necessary data cabling, such as SDI, CI, and transceiver
    cables, and order as needed.
  
  - Act as a liason, when necessary, between Field Service and System
    Management.
  
  - Assist Field Service and System Management with physical configuration
    changes and installations.
  
  - Action or escalate hardware and environmental issues as they arise.
  
  - Ship out scrap hardware as requested.
    

    @�$% all.
    
    
    CHARLEY

    
      I'm an engineer over in systems group PKO3, currently working on
     a new Server product.  I've been classified/reclassified several
     times as hardware or software.  Nowadays it's hard to tell.
    
      bb

    
    re .4
    
    I write Installation Guides and Release Notes.  So you probably want to
    kill me now.
    

    
    .10,
    
    ...as well as be a flaming "internationalizationalist"
    

    
    D'accord. Je sans frontieres.

    
                          Comic Relief Specialist

    Principal Manufacturing Engineer (contract) OEM New Products
    development at CXO.

    
>               <<< Note 554.13 by DEVLPR::DKILLORAN "Danimal" >>>
>                              Comic Relief Specialist
    
    
    	Borrowing a line from the movie "Transylvania 6-5000", that's
    	a matter of opinion.  8^)
    

    
    	I'm a Materials Analyst for the MCG group in MRO.  We were SBO,
    	but for some reason someone figured we needed a new TLA [Three
    	Letter Acronym].
    
    	I extract data, look at data, manipulate data, report data, and
    	then throw data into the recycle bin or delete it from the sys-
    	tem.
    
    	Lots of DATATRIEVE and MAXCIM reporting knowledge, and lots and
    	lots of .COM files to run everything.
    
    	My 9-year anniversary is in about a week.  Hmmm, make that ex-
    	actly a week, 10/6.
    

    MAXCIM?!?!

    Bluuurgh!

    I'm a Business Systems Support Specialist for Kanata Modules Manufacturing.

    I do everything from writing programs for KAO's MRP system, shell
    scripts for a capacity planing/MRP system called I2 Rhythm and creating
    access databases and troubleshooting access problems. I also have to do
    datatgrieve stuff from time to time.

    A jack of all trades I guess.

    
    	I didn't say I liked MAXCIM, but you gotta do the best you can
    	with what you have to work with.
    

    I am a lab mouse working an 800 phone line. And if I give a wrong
    answer, a zillion volts of power pass thru my weee body.

    
    I take up space, and need dusting every two weeks.

    Software Engineer II, DEC MLS+, secure software for 
    Digital UNIX.  I am a government-trained vendor security
    analyst, and my group works with government evaluation teams in
    the US and other countries to qualify our operating system
    for use in secure government applications.
    
    In other words, I write tests and test software :-)
    
    Mary-Michael

    
    Well, since you asked...
    
    I'm a software engineer contract type working in SHR in Shrewsbury
    Mass. I work on a product line known as "Video Interactive Information
    Services," which is known to the general public as "video on demand."
    Basically, it's cable TV software.
    
    I'm one of six engineers who are writing a component known as
    the "Storage Manager." The SM is a C++ application that uses
    an Objectivity database. It keeps track of what each couch potato
    orders, and where all the "assets" (movies, games, clips, interactive
    applications) are located... if someone orders a movie that's not
    currently available on a server (either an Alpha/OSF box or a 486/
    Novell Netware box), another piece of code gets called to suck
    the movie in from an automated tape jukebox. All the movies are
    stored in MPEG I or II (an ISO standard) compressed video format.
    
    -b

    I`m an ASR (Adminisrative Service Rep.) outta KYO.

    >I didn't say I liked MAXCIM
    
    How can you not like MAXCIM, it is so easy and straight forward?   :-)
    
    SEE??
    
    BM...BILLS OF MATERIAL                    AP...ACCOUNTS PAYABLE
    EB...ENG. BILLS OF MAT'L                  AR...ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE
    JT...JIT(KANBAN)                          FA...FIXED ASSETS
    IN...INVENTORY CONTROL                    GL...GENERAL LEDGER
    IT...INTERNAL PURCHASING REQUISITIONS     OE...ORDER ENTRY/INVOICING
    MC...MANUFACTURING COST                   FM...FMC FEEDER
    MS...MPS/CAPACITY MANAGEMENT
    MR...REQUIREMENTS PLANNING                ORDER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM
    PO...PURCHASING
    RE...MATERIAL RECEIPTS SYSTEM             CN...CONFIGURATOR
    RM...REPETITIVE FLEXIBLE MFG              OM...ORDER PROCESSING
    SR...SHOP ROUTING                         SA...SALES ANALYSIS
    TI...TAG INVENTORY                        MM...MOS/MAXCIM INTERFACE
    WO...WORK ORDER STATUS    UT...UTILITIES
    ZL...INVENTORY LOCATOR    DM...DATA MANAGEMENT
                              DS...INFORMATION MANAGEMENT
                              DC...DOCUMENTATION
    
    BMPSS..PRODUCT STRUCTURE FILE MAINT.    BMCC...COST WORK FILE CREATION
    BMRES..REMARKS FILE MAINTENANCE         BMCWS..COST WORK FILE EDITOR
    BMNOS..NOTES FILE MAINTENANCE           BMCL...COST WORK FILE LIST
    BMCP...BILL OF MATERIAL COPY            BMDE...DATA EXCEPTION REPORT
    BMMI...SINGLE LEVEL BILLS INQUIRY       BMCB...PRODUCT COST BUILDUP
    BMML...SINGLE LEVEL BILLS REPORT        BMCS...SINGLE LEVEL COST LIST
    BMIL...INDENTED BILLS REPORT            BMCI...INDENTED COST LIST
    BMSC...STANDARD VS CURRENT COST         BMSC_PURE...CX STANDARD VS
    ACTUAL COST
    BMWI...WHERE USED INQUIRY               BMSS...COMPARATIVE STOCK STATUS
    BMWL...WHERE USED LIST                  BMQS...COMPARATIVE QC STATUS
    REPORT
    BMIW...INDENTED WHERE USED LIST         BMCR...COST MASTER FILE
    REGENERATION
    BMRC...ROUTING COMPARISON               BMCPS..COST PARAMETERS EDITOR
    BMSB...SUMM. BOM USING PT.DAT           BMSB_CXO...CX SUMM. BOM USING
    BMMFGPRTS...APPIX PART CLASS MAINT.     BMAPPXREF...APPIX CROSS REF
    BMAPPXBOM...CX APPIX BOM EXTRACT        BMPREAPPX...CX BOM PRE-APPEX

    Bluuurgh!
    
    

    
    
    	Sr.  Admin. Asst.
    
    	with a few extra projects thrown in when I get bored.
    
    	And everyone knows I'm the *real*  boss.   =)
    

    .10
    
    I am coming to kill you now.
    
    ;^)

    
    Hey, I'm off this afternoon.  Kill me Monday.

    re: .22, Brian
    
    >> I'm one of six engineers who are writing a component known as
    >> the "Storage Manager."
                    ^^^^^^^
    Good for you, Brian.  I always knew that someday we'd be able to
    replace managers with software.
    
    As for me, as I said in my "lady who thought I was a minister" reply,
    I'm impersonating a software engineer.  What a preposterous title...
    actually I just tell people that I'm a computer programmer.
    
    I've been at Digital for sixteen years (this week, actually, just having
    looked at the calendar, so happy anniversary), and the last time I had
    an assignment that contributed substantially to a real corporate profit
    was in 1982, so hurray for Digital.
    
    I'd tell you what I do, but then I'd have to marry you.
    
    Chris

    
    
    Technical Writer (contract) in the networks space.  I use to be a real
    Digitalite before I went into the life of contracting.
    
    I also write hardware/software installation and configuration guides,
    release notes, cover letters, and whatever else comes down my aisle.

    
    v.p. of productivity.
    
    you're all fired.
    
    

>    How can you not like MAXCIM, it is so easy and straight forward?   :-)

looks pretty much like every other piece of software of its ilk that I've
used... they're all horrible!

Chris.

       <<< Note 554.24 by DASHER::RALSTON "Idontlikeitsojuststopit!!" >>>

>    How can you not like MAXCIM, it is so easy and straight forward?   :-)
 
	If you think MAXCIM is fun, try CIMS.

Jim

    That's confidential, especially when those who don't need to know find
    out and disappear without a trace.

    >  I also write hardware/software installation and configuration
       guides, release notes, cover letters, and whatever else comes down
       my aisle.
    
    Another writer of installation guides ?  My killing spree will increase
    to 2.
    
    ;^)

I have held four different jobs in four different years, so who knows 
how long I'll be doing the following.... 

Since last December, I have been the Telecom Administrator for the 
OMS group. I am responsible for all voice and data circuits used by
Digital and some of their customers across the entire Canadian
network. I currently handle approximately $700,000.oo worth of 
invoices a month (at last count, I believe it was around 225 invoices)
If you follow a circuit from it's inception, you would get a clear
idea of my job:

1)  Request/Order arrives at my desk from the internal Digital customer
2)  If necessary, quotes are obtained through either x.400 or envoy
    from the different Telecom companies (usually Bell or Unitel)
3)  Order is reviewed for accuracy and then I assign a PO# for tracking
    purposes and send the order off electronically to whichever Telco
    is getting the business
4)  Orders are entered into the allocation system using Genisys
5)  Invoice arrives - cross-checked with the quotes and if necessary
    (which means often), the Telco is contacted to fight over
    descrepancies
6)  Allocation updated with new amounts

Same process is handled for new installs, cancellations and moves. Every
invoice must be checked against what shows on allocation and any 
change must have a PO# referenced to indicate why the $ amount has
changed

7)  Once the invoice has been approved, cheque req is sent to A/P
    and I begin again next month!

In addition to the above, I am responsible for the creation and
distribution on a number of monthly reports having to do with Telecom.
In fact, if you have anything related to Canadian Telecom administration,
I'm your Gal!

    
    > I'm your Gal!
    
    :'-}   I've wanted a woman to say that to me for years.....
           thanks....{sniff}....{sniff}
    

    
    re.  35   I don't count, I'm just a hired hand. :>)
    
    Mary
    

    
    
    Mary,  Do you work for NIPG?  Do you report to Jan?
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

    I'm a software engineer working in what is now called the Software
    Partner Engineering Group.  During organizational games of hide-the-VP
    during the last three years we've had about half-a-dozen different
    names, but I started off doing nearly the same job five years ago in
    the Independent Software Vendor Group.  That was one of nine different
    groups merged to become the BPDA, later the ...hmmm, it had the word
    Competency in it somewhere, but I forget that acronym... later the
    Independent Software Vendor Engineering and Technical Support Group
    (that's the ISVETS in the personal name above, after which I refused to
    change it anymore for awhile.)  The mission throughout has been to
    provide technical engineering assistance to vendors porting third-
    party software onto our platforms.  We were founded back when MIPS
    was a new word- and our mission was deemed critical ever since we got
    our first Alphas about six months before they hit the street.  For the
    last year and a half I've been onsite with a major database partner,
    working on recent ports, 64-bit safety issues, and the large memory
    addressibility feature.
    
    DougO

    
    Oh, sure, easy for YOU to say...
    

    
    
    i work on dbi (database integrator) the last remnants of database
    technology sold directly by digital.  most of my time was spent
    coding up the back-end of the sql compiler which decomposed 
    queries into smaller sql queries directed at various gateways
    (oracle, sybase, rdb etc.) and integrates the results.  the
    latest gateway shipped will allow integration of data on pcs.
    this way folks can now use standard pc database query tools
    such as msquery, access, powerbuilder to read or write live data
    that is lives across lots of pcs across the enterprise (in an
    efficient and timely matter).  like doug we've suffered from
    many reorgs and vee pees and of course the software strategy.  
    
    

>>	the software strategy.  

    aagagagag.  good one.    
    

    
    I work in Corporate Environmental Health & Safety for the Business 
    Partners (the people who interface with the heads of the various 
    Business Units).  There are three of them, and they're all rather nice.
    
    This mostly means that I gather information about the BUs for them;
    they then sketch huge presentations using this information and various
    EHS type information and I then create the presentations.
    
    I spend most of my workday in PowerPoint tweaking slide shows and overhead
    projector format presentations, both in black and white and colour, and
    with graphics up the wazoo.
    
    What little time is left I spend answering questions about the office
    equipment (No, I don't know what's wrong with the fax.  Have you tried
    adding paper to the printer?  The queue name is written right on it. 
    It's over here.  Call 3-2420.  Yes, the phones are down.  Look in the file
    cabinet marked "Number 5".  I'll be right there.  I'll be right there. 
    Hold on, I'll be right there.).
    
    I sing while I work and I've been caught dancing in the hall, but they
    don't seem to mind.
    

    
    | I sing while I work and I've been caught dancing in the hall, but they
    | don't seem to mind.
          
    definitely v.p. material.
    

    
    RE: .45
    
    Nope. Ms. Deb's too smart.
    
    -b

    Not to mention beautiful.

    re .6
    
    	Where you off to Terrie?  Sorry to see you go...enjoyed your quips
    when I got the chance to catch up on SoapBox NeWs.  Have only been able
    to read notes on a real intermittant basis. 
    
                                     :-\
       
    ...Outsourcing -  based in Calgary, Alberta (used to be with MCS, then
    CNS, then OMS, then back to CNS, now MCS...)
       -If'n you got a system, we'll mangle it on contract for bucks
    		System Management
    		Network Management
    		System Analysis
    		EFI
    
    
    	...and oh Yah, usually get stuck makin' the coffee!
    
	Rod (used to be just plain obtuse, then mostly, now totally!)
                                        

    Chris Wilson F.O.  (forklift operator)

    
    Rob Cashmon, Corporate Valuing of Differences (VoD) Evaluator (contract)
    
    
    As a contractor working under the auspices of Worldwide Human Relations
    and Corporate Personnel, I have been delegated the task of entering
    different Employee Interest Notesfiles to determine which employees
    are living up to the goals, standards, and benchmarks defined in the
    corporate Valuing of Differences (VoD) policies, and which employees
    can be counted upon to be good corporate citizens and Team Players.
    After I prepare my reports on different individuals, those reports
    are then forwarded to the individual's manager, who is directed
    to include the employee either in the next round of TFSO, outright
    dismissal, or salary raises/cuts.
    
    <looks up, sees angry mob coming after him with torches, pitchforks, 
    and ropes>
    
    Oh, er...Nevermind.  Just kidding!  No!  NO!  AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
    
    
    Actually, I am Rob, son of Bob.  Rob build fire.  Fire good.  Keep
    warm.  Rob have big spear.  Rob hunt bison on plain.  Kill bison.
    Rob cook bison on fire.  Eat bison.  Mmmmmmmmmm, bison good.
    
    Rob sleep now.  Night-night.
    
    Zzzzzzzzzz
    
    
    
    Rob
    

    Rob trouble me. Yup he do.

    Rob, as usual, make Dan ROTFL.
    
    Dan, he webmonger.  Dan hunt & gather cool SW ideas.  Dan champion 'em.
    
    This sometimes good.  Sometimes bad, real bad trouble.  Companies
    sometimes form entire new business groups around found goodies. 
    Sometimes fire Dan.  But not recently.
    
    Check out fourth degree in 
    
    http://webforum.research.digital.com/~kalikow/bio.html
    
    for proof.
    
    |-{:-)
    
    (Currently noting from Oracle HQ, next to elder daughter's office,
     watching cool moonset)
     

    
    Um, er, ahem, <cough>
    
    Can I have everyone's attention please?  Thank you.
    
    Due to some mail that I received from people who took me seriously,
    I wish to reiterate that in .50 I was ONLY KIDDING.  I repeat -- ONLY
    KIDDING.  Not only does my real job have nothing to do with VoD in 
    any way, shape, or form, but I would certainly never have anything
    to do with getting people fired for violating VoD policies.
    
    I WAS ONLY KIDDING.
    
    I mean, really!  If I had that kind of power, don't you think I would
    be able to get my own account, instead of running around impersonating
    Jack Martin?  Did you also really think that I hunt bison with a spear
    on some prehistoric plain?
    
    I WAS ONLY KIDDING.
    
    I guess I really have to start using more smiley faces if I'm joking,
    huh?
    
    Announcement ended, thank you for your attention, that is all.
    
    
    
    Rob
    (just a nobody, NOT a VoD evaluator, if there is such a thing)
    

    MOore like a VD evaluator, iffen ya ask me... 

    
    Well, maybe, but I've been to the clinic and they say I'll be 
    fine as long as I keep coming back for the shots.
    
    :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)
    
    There, five should do it.  Whew, those smileys are hard work!
    
    
    
    Rob
    

    
    
    	I work in da FAB, I make CMOS4-5-6-7. I've been around since the
    days of zmos, tipi, etc. Right now I do Chemical Mechanical
    Planarization, but I've been qualified in oxide dep, metal dep,
    tungsten dep, spin-on-glass, and acid sinks. Oh yeah, and RTP (rapid
    thermal processing....fancy oven is all it is).
    
    	jim 

    re: .53
    
    I CAN'T believe anyone took your .50 seriously.
    
    Bob

	I can..... one has to read the WHOLE note to get the jist.....

    
    re:.53

    > Did you also really think that I hunt bison with a spear on some 
    > prehistoric plain?

    eeerrr....uuummmm you mean you don't?  DAM!  I just finish sharpening
    spear, I thought we go hunt together.  Two hunters, more kill, bigger
    feast!

    &%$    <--- symbol formerly know as smilely!

	Official title is Senior Manufacturing Engineer, but I'm
	a product engineer working on EV5, soon to be EV56, which
	are the current Alpha flavors.  I'm a glorified babysitter.
	I make sure the design team does their part right, the FAB
	folks do their part right (and with Jim Sadin in the FAB, you
	can guess how hard that part is), and the manufacturing folks
	do their part right.  Nobody does.  I fix all their messes, take
	all the blame, then prove to the qualification folks that we
	should sell these chips for money.

	Karen

    
    
    	>	I make sure the design team does their part right, the FAB
>	folks do their part right (and with Jim Sadin in the FAB, you
>	can guess how hard that part is), and the manufacturing folks
>	do their part right.  Nobody does.  I fix all their messes, take
>	all the blame, then prove to the qualification folks that we
>	should sell these chips for money.
    
    	Poor kiddo....but that's why they pay you that six-figure salary!
    :*)
    
    	no pain, no gain.
    
    	jim

    
    
    re.  39     Yes, and Yes.
    
    Mary
    

    Principal Hardware Engineer working on ATM switch design. Designed the
    crossbar chip and module for the GIGAswitch/FDDI. Designed an FPGA for
    the GIGAswitch/ATM. Currently designing a front end ASIC which will
    replace several chips in the current design, cost less, use less board
    space and power, and increase features and performance. We're going to
    be synthesizing this chip, so I'm writing models and transactors in
    C++.

    
    <--- You forgot to add: "Would you like fries with that?"
    

	10 to 1 the doctah doesn't understand 1/2 those acronyms.

    ATM = Automated Teller Machine
    GIGA = Goes In Goes Around  
    FDDI = Frequent Doubting Derives Indecision
    FPGA = Fairy Professional Golfer's Association
    ASIC = literally (I is sick)

       
       ASIC: A stultifyingly incontinent Canadian

    >10 to 1 the doctah doesn't understand 1/2 those acronyms.
    
     Ooh! How much can you afford to lose?!! Ok, I bet you $100 million. I
    always wanted an even billion. :-)

    Excuse me folks, I've got to go potty again.  8^x

    >> I would certainly never have anything
    >> to do with getting people fired for violating VoD policies.
    
    Good point, I suppose it's best to leave that to the right people...
    
    Chris

    Sales support specialist - 1-800-DEC-SALE
    
    Provide pre-sales support to internal DEC reps, MCS/Base reps, authorized
    distributors, selected VARS.
    
    Cover SW licensing issues, H/W & S/W warranty, supplemental warranty
    uplifts <--- don't get me started on this debacle!!
    
    Field all calls on services/licensing for PDP's 'cause I'm the only
    one in my group who ever saw one :-(
    
    

    
    <--- Why? do you have a dictionary or a thesaurus ?
    
    

    No, she has a sideline in surgical trusses.

    I sell baby...I SELL!!!!!!

    
    	Karen, so sorry to hear that.  A sympathy card is on the way.
    

    
    > supplemental warranty uplifts <--- don't get me started on this debacle!!
    
    soooo....Karen, tell me about the supplemental warranty uplifts...
    
    :-)
    

    Colin, don't give my management any ideas :-)
    
    Jack, my darlin'; don't mean to hurt your feelings, but if you knew
    what you were doing, you'd have no need to call me :-} (But I enjoy
    talkin' to ya anyway).
    
    Dan,
    
    There are uplifts and then there are uplifts (actually, I wouldn't
    mind having one once in awhile), but supplemental warranty uplifts
    don't even come to mind :-}  Trust me, you don't want to know.  An
    OEM rep called the other day and asked if I could explain Digital's
    warranty policy in 5 sentences or less (this should keep me laughing
    for the remainder of the year).
    

    Well I already got my two bonuses sweetums...but thanks for your
    concern!!!!!! :-)

    Oh swell Jack; I help you and you get two bonuses and I get
    bupkus (sp) (where's Dr. Dan or Gerald)?
    
    

    Oh Karen Karen...your eyes are like limpid pools...your teeth are like
    pearls...

    Keep going Jack, you're on a roll :-)
    
    

    The next line is about breasts....are you sure!!! {>:)

    
    	You look like Cindy Crawford?
    
    	If you've got nice breasts then that'd be the icing on the cake.
    

    Wouldn't that make her a cutie pie?

    Before ya'll get carried away, go back and re-read the birthday
    note  :-)  Hell, the way gravity is working against me, I'll be
    lucky if I don't look like Grannie Clampett by my next birthday :-0
    
    

    
    	1944, eh?
    
    	I love a little maturity in a woman!!
    

    > 	I love a little maturity in a woman!!
    
    Yeah, well, it has to come from somewhere... :-)
    
    -b

    Government Contracts Manager - Negotiate and administer U.S. Government
    Contracts for all BU's (and MVCS) in the Southeast (except FL).

    Now I know everyone is jealous with envy! :-)

    Dan

    
    
    Shaddup and get back to them DD250's, Dan.......
    
    Mike

    How can one be jealous with envy?

    
    
    My answer to this topic, as of tomorrow AM...
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I raise He!!
    
    
    

    
    	You mean "I raise him".
    
    	Please be more careful about proper pronoun usage in the future.
    
    	Thank you.
    

 Do we get to find out what this is all about?

    
    
    Have patience....I'll let you in on the whole story
    before I leave Digital.
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

    Don't be bashful Terrie, it's Hell raising Hell.

    
    
    Thanks Brian, but I chose not to get set hidden till my
    very last day.  Then, be forewarned.  I'm gonna keep the 
    Mods hoppin' all day. :*)
    
    
    Terrie
    

    
    
    Gee Terrie, I told John H that I was going to be his worst nightmare on
    my last day. :')
    
    Mike

    
    Oh, they're not looking. Honest. I know, I'll create a diversion
    in the Separation of Church and State topic... :-)
    
    -b

    DECsnarf

    554.86
    
    Well, I'm definitely a person who appreciates excellence :-)
    

    Mikey,
    
    I'd have to check his age first; on a first date it helps to know
    whether or not I should expect to kiss him goodnight or burp him
    first :-}
    
    

    
    	Hmmm, I believe I'm probably closer to "burping" age.  8^)
    
    	Don't take this the wrong way, but you're a year older than my
    	mother.  8^)
    

    -1 Story of my life (lately) :-)
    
    

    	Court Jester.
    
       (It's what class clowns aspire to after they graduate.)

    
    > 	Court Jester.
    
    I thought that was F. Lee Bailey (sp?)
    

	Dan, Bailey was not the court jester, he was the case tester!

    naw, he was the boil that festered