Conference back40::soapbox

>He suffers from a degenerative brain disease that lowered
>  his inhibitions which coarsened his sex drive.

This Armony guy, was he circumscribed?
 

I thought he was the one who was castrated because he had prostate cancer.
And didn't his brain shrink too?

    
    Wade Boggs claimed to have the same disease. His wife bought
    it and forgave him and now he claims to be cured. Its funny
    that Boggs did not even know he had the disease till he heard
    someone describe on a tabloid tv show. 

    
    Brain must have been working fine to set up a dummy fund and embezzle
    funds into it.
    
    

    
    And is it fair to assume by the term "coarsened", to be hardened or
    rough?
    
    

Armony is circumscribed.  The result is brain damage.
And, less sensitivity.  Boom.  

His sex life becomes coarsened.  Boom.  Coarsened sex
lives require money.  Boom.  Steal the money.

If Dahmer had got his hands on this guy, we would have had 4-part Armony.

    
    Couldn't he have just used the defense....
    
    	But your honor, my thingy made me do it... :>)
    
    

>But your honor, my thingy made me do it... :>)

That sounds more like a flasher's defense, not an embezzler's.

    >> Wade Boggs claimed to have the same disease. His wife bought
    >> it and forgave him...
    
    Was that before, or after, she pushed him out of the truck? :-)
    
    Chris

    
    And after he was "cured", his ball playing kind of hit the skids,
    didn't it?
    
    Mary
    

>his ball playing kind of hit the skids,

And so did his play balling.

    Aramony.

Is that what he pays his Japanese ex-wife?

Wonder if Aramony gave at the office?

    
    this Wade Boggs, he a ball player or something?

    
    how does aramony rate a teenaged girlfriend?

    re: .0
    >>Defense was:  He suffers from a degenerative brain disease that lowered
>>    		  his inhibitions which coarsened his sex drive.
>>    
>>    Needless to say, the jury didn't by it.
    
    You mean:
    
    It wouldn't stand up in court?

    How about Dan White; He shot the Mayor of San Francisco and his defense
    was that he ate too many Twinkies; Got some kind of sugar high
    and caused him undue irrantional behaviour, which inturn led
    him to wax the mayor.
    
    
    sin-te-da

    
    You've got to watch out for those Twinkies! Full of sugar and
    chemicals, who knows what they could do to a person! :>)
    
    Mary
    

| <<< Note 472.22 by TLE::PERARO >>>


| You've got to watch out for those Twinkies! Full of sugar and
| chemicals, who knows what they could do to a person! :>)


	Let them get away with murder????? :-(

And then there's always those Magnificent Menendez Bros.
Hey, has the second trial started yet?

    Speaking of amazing defense reasoning; consider the case of the (part
    or full blooded) native american. He is alleged to have gotten drunk
    and driven, colliding with another car and killing the occupants. He
    was originally charged with some form of aggravated homicide, which his
    defense lawyers managed to get thrown out in a pretrial hearing
    claiming that his inebriated state was so profound as to render it
    impossible for him to have a criminal intent. During the trial,
    however, they claimed he was not drunk at all, having consumed only 4
    or 5 full beers. (In the pretrial, he claimed to have had 17 beers or
    so.) On cross, he explained that he didn't finish the 17 beers, so in
    point of fact his alcohol consumption was only about 4 or 5 beers.
    
     And if I remember correctly, this wasn't his first such offense.

   .25  I mentioned this last month in the TTWA topic.  He blew a .10
	four hours after the accident, so they extrapolated that back to
	a .18.  Rather drunk.  His defense is that he had a wicked
	migraine and that gave him a sort of tunnel-vision wherein he didn't
	know what he was doing.  This is the third trial.  His defense
	prior to this was the business about being too drunk to have had
	criminal intent.

>His defense is that he had a wicked
>	migraine and that gave him a sort of tunnel-vision wherein he didn't
>	know what he was doing.

The first thing I do is jump into a car and drive it when
I don't know what I'm doing.

I guess that debil alcohol kinda coarsened his vision, plus
the migraine!  Uweee.

>>The first thing I do is jump into a car and drive it when
>>I don't know what I'm doing.

	;>  Supposedly, he was already out driving around in his truck,
	going to buy his wife a present (it was Christmas Eve), when he
	got the migraine.  He had stopped at a club for a couple of pops
	and stopped to buy (and consume) a six-pack sometime in the
	interim.  The head-on collision killed a woman and her three
	young daughters.

    
    RE:  472.43 
    
    Course not, I don't believe that Twinkies is a viable excuse.  It's
    pretty lame actually, but shows how far people will go in their
    defenses.
    
    Mary
    

    
    And now we have the kids who killed the 65 year old man in Avon
    claiming to be "Natural Born Killers".
    
    Now, what do you think there defense will be??  The movie made them do
    it?
    
    Mary
    

    Great, can't wait for this to be paraded through the media by the
    Doleistas as to the immoral influence the decadent hollywood denizens
    are having on our yoots.  

re .29:

Mary, are you psychic?

    
    I can feeeeeeeeellll it!! :>)
    
    
    Mary
    

    Re: .29
    
    Yes WAY..And guess what..The Bone headed jury believed him and he
    got off...Thats how ole' finestine got be where she is in the 
    state of Cali..
    
    
    Sin-te-da

John Salvi, the psycho-scum who murdered two women
at two Brookline women's health clinics, has said that
he is competent to stand trial.

The prosecution believes that Salvi is competent to
stand trial.

Salvi's lawyer says he is insane.    

They're still going back and forth on this one.

This must set a new record for time taken to
ascertain whether the person accused is competent
to stand trial. 

    
    Seems that everyone in gaol is innocent, and everyone headed there is
    insane.

It appears we recently have a rash of incidents wherein the defendent
and the prosecution are arguing with the defense as to the competency
of the defendent.

What's wrong with this picture?

I just checked the paper.  I was wrong.
Salvi's trial started today.

From the Globe:

The aspiring hairdresser from Hampton Beach, N.H.,
has said he wants the death penalty if convicted.
If he is found innocent, he said he plans to become
a priest.

    
    Oh, great.
    
    Parishoner:  "Bless me, Father, for I have sinned."
    
    Salvi:	 <bang>
    
    

Salvi's defense attorney is using the "S" word:  schizophrenia.
But a person suffering from schizophrenia could never have
planned and executed such a cold-blooded attack.  He took 
target practice a few days before the incidents, for heaven's
sake.  

But I guess when you've got no defense, you must use your 
imagination.

    >But a person suffering from schizophrenia could never have
    >planned and executed such a cold-blooded attack. 
    
     I wouldn't say I necessarily agreed with this. Nonetheless, the guy's
    guilty and deserve to stand trial and be punished. I hate mealy-mouthed
    psychobabblers who try to prevent people from being held responsible
    for their actions...

    Salvi has threatened to fire his lieyers if they don't leave off with
    the insanity defense.  That threat prompted them to call in an
    additional lieyer for support.  Who's paying for this fabulous support
    network lieyers have set up for each other?  The people of the PRM?

    lieyers:: I like it.

    >>But a person suffering from schizophrenia could never have
    >>planned and executed such a cold-blooded attack. 
    
    > I wouldn't say I necessarily agreed with this.

Mark!   Where have you been?  On vacation?

A schizophrenic person is severely delusional and suffers from
a fragmented thought process.  A process "normal" people can 
only come close to in their dreams.  A person must have a semi-coherent
thought process to do what Salvi did.
 

>    Who's paying for this fabulous support
>    network lieyers have set up for each other?

Wasn't that one of those charities that George M. worked on?

    There are varying degrees of schizophrenia; it's no "one size fits all."
    How much coherency does it take to load a gun, drive to a clinic and open
    fire? Not a helluva lot, if you axe me.

Yes, there is catatonic, paranoid, hebephrenic, and one other flavor
I can't remember.  They'll probably say Salvi is of the paranoid type.
Unmedicated, most paranoid schizophrenics would be unable to purchase
a gun, take target practice the day before the incidents, drive to one
site and commit murder and mayhem, travel to the next site and commit
murder and mayhem, then take off to Virginia to continue his spree.

But, as always, we can agree to disagree.

This trial will be innerestin''

    >Unmedicated, most paranoid schizophrenics...
    
     I'll grant you this, but that doesn't make it impossible (as your
    earlier note directly stated.)

>>Unmedicated, most paranoid schizophrenics...

Strike the word "most" and have a nice day.

    Looks like we've found someone to follow in Chelsea's footsteps.

I missed you Mark, I really did.

    
    <-----
    
    Like that wart you had removed recently???
    
    

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    If I ever... EVER!.. take a PC on a holiday or a vacation, I would
    expect someone... anyone to shoot me at once!!!
    

    
    
    Too bad you'll never have the chance... seeing as how they won't let
    you have any sort of bang-bang stick up there...
    
    The above of course has the rider that, when the time comes that I do
    take a PC on vaca, they'll have confiscated all the guns up there. 
    
     You'll then have to be satisified to just club me to death...
    

    
    >seeing as how they won't let
    >you have any sort of bang-bang stick up there...
    
    Not true, not true!  They just won't let me have *most* sorts...
    

    
    See "rider" in .55
    

    
    Well, the battery in the laptop should provide enough heft...
    
    :^)
    

>     You'll then have to be satisified to just club me to death...
    
With a Canadian Club?

    
    ...speaking of which...
    

    
    But I NEED to take a laptop on vacation with me... to keep track
    of all the guns I take on vacation with me... :-) :-)
    
    -b