Conference back40::soapbox

    .1
    
    no, we're not.  people get eaten by carnivores of various descriptions. 

    Our large brain has enabled us to appear to be at the top of the food
    chain. 
    
    You wouldn't want to have a fist fight with a bear. 

    
    well Glenn and all **18 others**, I wouldn't want to wrestle with a
    tiger either, but I have danced with cactus's.\
    
    
    Mark

    I wouldn't doubt it for a moment.

    re:.4
    
    and i'm wearing milk bone underwear

    
    re .2
    
    Can we have the numbers in relation ?
    
    How many human beings have been killed by animals in the last year
    and how many animals have been killed by human beings ?
    
    re .3
    
    OK, you're Canadian.
    No US guy would ever engage in a fist fight with a bear. Another reason
    to keep one's gun, I suppose.

    -1 ooooh... i love it when you talk that way!
    
    Chip

    People can kill anything they can see.  The only real biological htreat
    is from things they can't see.
    
    Yes, we are a the top of the food webb.  And like every population
    where this happens thre population will go into exponential growth and
    then crash, no plague, or pestilence but plenty of famine and death.
    
    The alternative?  War, a very big one.
    
    R. Michael.

    RE: .5   Cactii, NNTM
    
    RE: 'tine - Arff!

    RE: no plague and pestilence....
    
    Along with famine and death will come pestilence and plague.  In the
    end it really won't matter which came first.  The population is like
    the stock market.  Look for a major correction in the not too distant
    future geologically speaking.  
    
    Brian 

    .12
    
    > RE: .5   Cactii, NNTM
    
    we won't, then.  it's cacti or cactuses or even cactus.
    
    in the original greek, it's kaktos (singular) and kaktoi (plural).
    
    nnttm.

    Even though I have no need Sir Binder, I will anyway for I have 
    been enlightned as to the correct spelling of of the subject 
    plant.  I am truly indebted.  Thank you.
    
    Brian 

    
    well Dick, I am so ashamed of myself for misspelling a desert plant's
    name of which I am so familiar. I was one in my previous life, so not
    pronouncing it or spelling it correctly grieviously troubles me.
    
    Mark

    grievously.

    
    I can't win

    .

    Not only that, but you forgot your period.

    >Not only that, but you forgot your period.
    
    That reminds me of the old joke about the Italian
    wedding invitation:
    
    
                 +
                 |
                / \
       U  ,  2  |_|  Rosa  Mr  .
    
    -b
    

<--- <grin>

	(I hope you won't mind that I've saved that for posterity. :^)

    .21
    could you translate please?

    Translating it spoils it!!!
    
    However
    
    
    
    You comma to church, Rosa mister period
    
    
    is my theory
    

	Does this mean that Glenn & co are pregnant?

    Oh no, I'll have to choose my obstetricians soon.

	You'll have to choose your baby doctor too!

re .27

I Haiti t when that happens.

    
    
    
    .1 The food chain is not a pyramid. It's a circle.
       If it was a Pyramid the top would be the diseminators.
       Mushrooms and such that will finally eat you.
    
       World Over Population is the single largest threat we have.
       It taxes our natural resources and stresses our immune system.
    
       Like mold in a jar. We will choke to death in our own waste if
       we continue to ignore the problem.
    
    

    So, we need some good wars and famines then.

and we need to fight each other and not have food available too!

    
    Effing Gilligan!

	I thought Gilligan was his foist name... :-)

    It's Gilligan from Effingham.

    >>	I thought Gilligan was his foist name... :-)
    
    According to at least one of my "sources", Gilligan has no
    first name.  I guess it's kind of like the way that Roseanne
    has no last name...
    
    By the way, some Gilligan trivia:  the producer's first choice
    to play Gilligan was Jerry Van Dyke ("Coach", "My Mother the Car"),
    who in an uncharacteristic display of good taste turned down the role.
    
    Chris

    Ban Population

    re .36
    
    copulation without population
    

    The Protestants have already tried to promote sex for pleasure but to
    no avail.

	They had Gilligan's Island on the Today show this morning! Gilligan and
Mary Anne were on. They said the show was only of for 3 years, 98 episodes, and
was in the top 20 when it was canceled. (who cancels a top 20 show?) It was in
the top 10 the first season it was out. They said the critics hated the show,
saying it wouldn't last 6 weeks. 98 episodes, 3 movies, and the show that has
shown more reruns than any other show in the history of tv, I guess they might
have been wrong.... :-)


Glen

Gilligan's Island has shown more reruns than I Love Lucy?

| <<< Note 316.38 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "Alledged Degirdification" >>>

| The Protestants have already tried to promote sex for pleasure but to no avail
                                                                           ^^^^^

	Isn't that some kind of asprin????

| <<< Note 316.40 by NOTIME::SACKS "Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085" >>>


| Gilligan's Island has shown more reruns than I Love Lucy?

	That's what they said on the Today show.

    
    Speaking of the Today show, Matt Lauer is engaged.

Are you expecting an invitation? And, if so, do you need an escort?

:^)

    
    I'll keep you updated 8^).

>> | Gilligan's Island has shown more reruns than I Love Lucy?
>>
>>	That's what they said on the Today show.
    
    Oh, no way.  In fact, I'd say it's not even in the top five,
    but I'd have to do some research to verify that.
    
    Many highly-rated shows have been cancelled by the networks,
    usually in the pre-cable days.  Some for demographic reasons,
    some because of bad producer-network relationships (e.g.,
    "The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour"), some simply because the
    other two shows on TV in the same time slot did much better,
    some because the network wanted to get rid of "that kind" of
    program (e.g., CBS's famous "rural purge" of 1970), some
    because the show has just run out of steam and has nothing
    more to say (e.g., "Gilligan's Island", where every possible
    kind of plot in that restrictive environment had been done to
    death countless times over), and I'm sure there are other
    reasons as well.
    
    Chris

>    (e.g., CBS's famous "rural purge" of 1970)

What was this, Chris?

Must be when they cancelled shows like Green Acres, Hee Haw, Mayberry RFD, etc.

    Gerald's right... CBS decided that all of their rural-based shows
    were hokey, cornpone, worn-out croakers with all of the wrong kinds
    of people watching, weren't the way of the future, and all that.
    In one fell swoop, they cancelled any series (even highly-rated
    ones) that had so much as a whiff of cow patties.
    
    Which set the stage for programs like "The Mary Tyler Moore Show"
    (1970), "All in the Family" (1971), M*A*S*H (1972), and so on.
    One could say that the "rural purge" helped bring on the 1970's
    "Golden Age of Sitcoms", one of the few good things to come from
    that decade, imho.
    
    Chris

	Oh yeah, one other thing. Gilligan.... errr Bob Denver said their show
got canceled because the wife of the president of <i forget which network it
was on> needed a spot for Gunsmoke. I thought that was weird as I thought
Gunsmoke was an hour long.....


Glen

| <<< Note 316.43 by POWDML::LAUER "Little Chamber of Fuzzy Faces" >>>


| Speaking of the Today show, Matt Lauer is engaged.


	NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>(who cancels a top 20 show?) 
    
    	M*A*S*H and Cheers are two that come to mind.

	Mash and Cheers were not canceled. The actors decided to stop making
the shows. Ted Danson said he wanted no more of Cheers, and I believe it was
Alan Alda who said he did not want to do M*A*S*H* anymore. Try again Joe.


Glen

    I think Denver said the network's prez was Paley and Gunsmoke was
    Paley's wife's favorite program.  Paley killed GI to clear one 1/2
    hour that was needed for Gunsmoke.  They didn't mention what other
    show got hit to free the other 1/2 hour.
    
    

    Well, they could have just moved "GI" if it was all that popular.
    Having read a lot about Paley and Stanton, it's a good bet that
    they received too many barbs about the show from their cultural
    pals, and just pitched the thing from sheer embarrassment.  I'll
    see if I can dig up anything else about this.
    
    They were pretty much out of story lines as well.  Programs such as
    "GI" paint themselves into a corner... how many storylines can you
    come up with for such a setting, before you start pairing off the
    characters? :-)
    
    Chris

    So are we working towards a theory that these shows incited vast
    amounts of coitus resulting in increased world population?

    Watching Mary Ann definitely inspired me to increase the world
    population.  Fortunately I restrained myself from doing so at
    the time, being only 12.
    
    I still have an old TV Guide issue somewhere with a Picture
    Feature article showing her modeling paper bikinis.
    
    Chris

    You restrained yourself at 12? You must be a Vulcan or something.

    Most 12 year old boys would've bopped their baloney.

	ah yes, what a classy bunch in here.

    
    "Maryann or Ginger?"
    
    "Ginger was a bimbo"
    
    "Maryann or Jeannie"
    
    "Jeannie"

Bopping one's baloney doesn't increase world population.

    that depends entirely on the nature of the implement used to do the
    bopping.

    |<<< Note 316.62 by NOTIME::SACKS "Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085" >>>

    |Bopping one's baloney doesn't increase world population.
    
    Then how do they stock a sperm bank? It isn't ATM's is it?

They don't accept twelve-year-olds as sperm donors.

    .65
    
    why not ?
    
    ric

Because they're not capable of informed consent.

    And many are not capable of producing sperm.

    One way of keeping the population down but the fun quotient up.....
    
    SNARF populii

    >> You restrained yourself at 12? You must be a Vulcan or something.
    >> Most 12 year old boys would've bopped their baloney.
    
    :-)
    
    I meant that it's a good thing I didn't increase the population
    when I was age 12.  The hormones at that age no doubt resembled
    a lava pit, though.  I don't think there were any willing partners
    around at that age, even if I couldn't restrain myself...
    
    re: TV research
    
    As for the fate of "Gilligan's Island", while it is true that
    "Gunsmoke" was moved from late Saturday night down into the time
    slots of "Gilligan's Island" and "Run, Buddy, Run" (now *there*
    was a true loss for humanity :-)) in the Fall 1967 schedule, it's
    also true that there were plenty of other potential time slots
    that "GI" could have been moved into if CBS had been so inclined.
    And it's also true that CBS had indeed been so inclined during
    "GI"'s three seasons, because it occupied a different day and time
    slot for each of its three seasons, so it had already been moved
    around quite a bit.
    
    I'd venture that CBS just wanted to nuke "GI", and told them the
    "Gunsmoke" thing just to minimize the ruffled feathers, because
    it's almost "honorable" to lose your time slot to the venerable
    "Gunsmoke".  In any event, one year later Bob Denver was back on
    the CBS schedule in "The Good Guys" (also starring Herb Edelman,
    aka Blanche's ex-husband in "The Golden Girls").
    
    Chris

    a  chap of 92 died over here with his less-than-a-year old baby in his
    arms. docs said "many 90+ year old men are still fertile - it's just
    they tend not to have fertile partners"
    
    ric

    
    I read an article in the Globe about a local sperm bank.  It said that
    prospective donors had to be 5'9".  That's the only thing I remember
    8^).
    

    >prospective donors had to be 5'9".
    
    Chite, that's big! Even I wouldn't qualify... :-)
    
    -b

    
        5' 9"  They come that big! Whew!
               

    .72
    
    hey i didn't think you were allowed to place qualifications like that
    on anything in the US. hasn't any sub-5'9"ers taken them to court ?
    
    ric

        5'9" ?  hmmm; medium.
        

    
    Brian!  Rosie!  Andy!  HEIGHT!! 8^)
                        
    
    I dunno, ric, a lot of professions (8^)) have physical requirements,
    height, weight, strength, bla bla bla.  I suppose the sperm bank
    figures they'll get more withdrawals if the donors aren't short, being
    that tallness is so incredibly popular* in this country.
    
    
    * and EXTREMELY overrated, if you ask me 8^).
    
    
    
    What a job, Professional Sperm Donor 8^).

    A tall tail to be sure. ;-)

    >What a job, Professional Sperm Donor 8^).
    
    Right up there, um, er, with professional sperm recipient.
    
    -b

    
    and sperm taker as well

    
    Sidewalk Sperm Vendor: "Sperm here!  Get yer white hot sperm here!
    

    .77
    
    yes of all the "-ism's" heightism is the least publicised imho. and
    unlike some -ism's, you can't do a lot about it if you're short. it's
    pretty ingrained that the man of a couple should be taller than the
    woman, and i do believe there is some correlation between promotion in
    business and height.
    
    ric

    
    Down with heightism.                             
    
    Well, not that I'm short, mind you; I just have trouble finding men
    over the age of, oh, twelve or so who are shorter than I am.
                                   

    I didn`t know they were men at 12. Did I miss something in my yout?

    
    Perhaps I should have said "males" rather than "men".  However, I have
    heard newborn girls referred to as "baby women", so...8^)

    
    Being tall is a terrific thing.  I'm 6'11" and (hairless) and quite a
    sight to behold.  And I see everything!
    
    jeff

    .86
    I`d bet you would make a great look out tower in those old forts in the
    west way back when. :')

    I just had a vision of the giant on Twin Peaks only with a cross around
    his neck and holding a bible :-).

| <<< Note 316.86 by USAT05::BENSON "Eternal Weltanschauung" >>>


| Being tall is a terrific thing.  I'm 6'11" and (hairless) and quite a
| sight to behold.  And I see everything!

	Hey, this explains why you're so full of yourself. There is a lot to be
full of! :-)


Glen

| <<< Note 316.89 by CNTROL::JENNISON "Oh me of little faith" >>>


| Are you really that tall, Jeff ? You seem much shorter in notes...

	That's cuz everyone cuts him down so easily...

    .83
    
    why do you want men shorter than you ? it's usually yhe other way
    round.
    
    ric
    
    (actually aren't you the one who looks at teeth as well ? strange ... )

    
    I didn't say I *wanted* men that were shorter than I am; I just said
    I'd have a hard time *finding* them!
    
    Honestly and truly, I like my men really tall (6'+).
    
    
    And yes, I'm the one who looks at teeth 8^).

    
    you ought to see my teeth!  I'm tall and hairless like the guy on Twin
    Peaks with huge teeth like the guy in "The Mask".
    
    jeff

    re: .98
    
    {swoon}

>    Honestly and truly, I like my men really tall (6'+).
>    And yes, I'm the one who looks at teeth 8^).

You should become a dental hygienist.  That way you won't strain your neck
looking at tall men's teeth.

    > I like my men really tall (6'+)
    
    :-(
    
    that's so *heightist*
    
    ric

    
    I've been known to swoon over shorter men, ric.  Heck, the doctah is one of
    my favourite men, and he's not 6'+.

    How tall does one have to be to make you swoon?

    
    
    
    
    Yeah Deb, you make it sound like us short dumpy types ain't worth the
    time of day......not that I'm short mind you, I just ain't done growing
    yet.......
    
    
    Mike

    
    Oh dear 8^(.  
    
    I like all men.  Tall, short, fair, dark, slim, stocky, old, young.  All.  
                                                                         
    
    I won't compromise on the good teeth, tho 8^).

    
    
    One question on the teeth.......do they have to be the originals? :')

Deb wouldn't have gone for George Washington, father of the
country or not.

There's this fellow in Mont Vernon who's right proud of his tooth. It's
a nice 'un, Mz. Deb.

    >One question on the teeth.......do they have to be the originals? :')
    
    Actually, I would hope that the possession of baby teeth would
    be a disqualifying factor. :-) :-)
    
    -b

    
    
    RE: .110  Ain't that the feller who puts a new coat of paint on it once
    a year, Jack?  

Maybe she's bipolar.

    
    
    or bicycle.......

    
    The only bi I am is bi-zarre 8^).
    

    
    
    
    Well, you are also biyootiful........

    RE: .114
    
    >   -< Maiewski meets Krawiecki >-
    
    
    I represent that remark!!!!
    
    
     Meowski's evidently gone off the deep end with his
    <whatever>ialisms...
    
     and besides.. I'm much taller than he is...
    

    I've got good teeth...

    
    Open wide and let me see.

    
    What's that adage about gift horses???
    

 My teeth ain't so good :-/

    
    My teeth were fine til I got to mz_debs....

    So, does dentistry play a vital role in World Population? This would be
    a crowning achievement.

    	Reminds me of a joke.  The punchline was:
    
    	"Well of course not!  Look at the condition of those gums!"

    > I've been knwon to swoon over shorter men, ric.
    
    8-)
    
    ric

    I've been known to trip over shorter men...
                                                 
                                              ... and thinner ones too