Conference back40::soapbox

    mine was earned.
    
    

    Some people know...

 error message from an ancient assembler

    the truly desired know.

    
    Somewhere I'd like to be with a handful of cork.

    
    
    speaking of which, gene...i forget which show i was watching last week
    or so, but the lady on the show, speaking to her ragged looking man,
    said "you look like you were ridden hard and put up wet..."(or
    something to that effect)...i nearly fell off the couch...
    

	i think it was Frasier.

    well dearest raquel, its always better spoken from female whispers.
    movies or not.

    speaks for itself?

    Take an engine commonly found in large motor homes and heavy utility
    trucks, toss in a whole bunch of high performance goodies onto it, and 
    stuff it into a 3200 pound Chevrolet Camaro - and you'll fly too.

 From a Southern Gospel tune called "Dig a little Deeper in the Storehouse
 of God's love"





Jim

    relish life.

    I like gustare on my hot dogs.

    
    Should be self-explanatory.
    
    - JOHN Collins
    

Jojo (and variations thereof) is a nickname that's followed me
since the 4th grade.  Hey, it's better than what my dad calls
me:  JellyBean (my 1st birthday was on Easter).

The Fishing Widow -- well, if you knew my husband, you'd know
that I'll have to order him a casket with a rod rack and cooler
holder someday.

joanne

    It's that big is it?

    
    
    	Was on a pin given to me by a former manager....
    	
    	And it's a very fitting one too.  =)
    
    	

    
    
    	Hey!  pppfftth!  you ain't seen nothin'.  =)

    
    I'll say!!
    
    Although you are a nice tour guide.... ;)
    

    I ride a bicycle a bit.  There was a discussion about a biker who had
    "one less car" written on his jersey - I thought it was really snotty. 
    You ride a bike to work either because you like to ride bikes, need the
    exercise, like to scare yourself half to death on a regular basis, or,
    like me, just love to chase dogs on your bike...
    
    During the discussion period, riding home one day, a dog got behind me,
    and became entangled in my spokes before I could outrun him.  I
    repaired the bike, most of my skin has grown back, but the dog has gone
    to doggie hell (I hope).
    
    Hence, there is now "one less dog", which I think provides a nice cosmic
    balance.
                            

    
    "one less car" ?  WRONG !  Should be "one car less".
    
    Then it would be "one less incorrect usage"
    
      bb

	>>I just kept riding.

	wow

    +5
    
    ???

    = 4
    
    !!!

	i was amazed, though i guess nothing much should amaze
	me these days.

    Casey Stengel, I think.
    
    
    Marty

RE:          <<< Note 113.32 by BSS::DEASON "Hit'em where they ain't" >>>
                         -< Although I could be wrong >-

   > Casey Stengel, I think.
    
    
    
    I think it was Wee Willy Keeler





Jim

    Thanks for the info. :^)
    

    Part of song/poem I've never finished
    
    "Sweet Spirit's gentle breeze
    I need you to blow over me
    through my hair 
    and on my skin
    I need to feel you deep within"
    
    

    It's latin, and is on the back of the $1 bill.

    ^
    |
    |  I'm living proof (and terribly modest, too!) :)
    
    M.

    -1
    
    Naturally???? :-)

    Re .0
    
    I know what my name means.  It means "Macho Stud Genius." *<8o)
    
    
    

    Haven't re-entered my personal name yet. However for those of you 
    who remember it my monkey experience speaks for itself.

    mine speaks for itself

    
    Two years ago I self announced my promotion from Kodierwurst to 
    Senior Kodierwurst. My Project Leader was quite amused and, as we
    were just writing a functional specification, put me in the team
    description as 'Heiko Scharnberg  -  Senior Kodierwurst'. Obviously,
    this was planned to be replaced with 'Analyst' in the final version,
    but was forgotten.
    
    Two weeks later that international oil & gas corporation (with a shell in 
    it's logo) gave us a call, wondering since when Digital had 
    'Senior Coding-Sausage' as a jobcode.
    
    Sausage = Wurst, slang for utterly unimportant teammember, lowest in
    	      the hierarchy
    
    Heiko, S.C.S.

    <--- I like it. good story.

re:'wurst'

Don't knock it.

(I wonder what gets into me sometimes.)

    <- :-)
    
    As for p-names, my current should be obvious...
    
    previous ones were derived mainly from songs:
    
    "Oh baby, you smell like food..." is from the song "Greasetown" by
    Charlie Farren. It's a song about his multi-ethnic neighborhood in
    the city of Chelsea Mass...
    
    "I Heard It On The Ether..." is from a song I wrote of the same title.
    It's a song about the various negatives and positives of modern
    cyberspace...
    
    "Senses Working Overtime..." is from a song by Andy Partridge of XTC,
    from XTC's brilliant album "English Settlement."
    
    -b

	I am just making sure no one takes me serious...%^)

    re: .22  "One less dog"
    
    You know, it's funny... I was the one that started the "One less car"
    discussion, and when you'd first reported your bike accident, I wrote
    a reply saying that you should wear a shirt saying "One less dog", but
    then (as I frequently do) I nuked it at the "Proceed to enter it?"
    prompt because I didn't want to appear to be making light of a
    situation where you'd been hurt, and all that.
    
    So, when "One less dog" showed up shortly afterwards as your p/n,
    I almost fell out of my chair.  Good one...
    
    As for me, I'm "between" p/n's, waiting for inspiration to strike
    anew, unless I'm too old for that now.
    
    Chris

    -1
    
    How about, "Waiting for something new"
    :-)

    Heiko,
    
    In americanese, it would be senior coding weenie.  Translates well me
    thinks :-).  
    
    Brian

    This'll probably do in the meantime... :-)
    
    Chris

    Chris, You may have mentioned the 'one less dog' - I did not coin the
    phrase, merely adopted it...

    Oh no, I didn't mention it (I "wimped out" before entering it),
    that's the funny thing... we came up with it independently, so
    it was a riot when I saw it come up as your p/n.
    
    Chris

    re: .38
    
    Yes, Nancy, naturally.  Dark blonde, but blonde through and true.  
    Of course, I do help it to be a "lighter shade of pale", if you catch
    my drift!
    
    M.
    

Mine means that the city I live in, Atlanta, is a lot of fun...Sometimes too
much.  Getting a little crowded, so don't tell too many people.

Paul

    Got 2, this one and NEWOA.
    
    NEWOA "The Rich Get Richer; The Poor Get Kids" misquote from John
    Brunner's book The Shockwave Rider based on Alvin Toffler's Future
    Shock. 
    
    This one up here?  Apt.
    
    Daz

    
    should we just call you mr security?

    
    Uh-oh.  I can see another Maelstrom generic account thing brewing...

Mine stems from my displeasure of a 70's vintage Fender Precision Bass and 
a 80's vintage Fender Jazz Bass.  I was learning the instrument and 
"followed the masses" so to speak, and purchased these instruments.  

Finally dumped them and bought an Ibanez bass and fell in love!!


Joe

    
    A line from Al McGuire on a basketball game he was broadcasting.
    
    Mark

    RE: .59
    
    Well, to each his own. But may I express a most heartfelt GAG!!!!
    
    Dump some beautiful Fenders and fall in love with an Ibanez. I'm sorry
    to say this Joe, but it's a good thing I haven't had lunch yet, or it
    would be repeating most heinously right now...
    
    I HATE ef'n Ibanez basses...!!!!
    
    There, I feel better. :-) :-)
    
    -b
    (Fenders, Music Man, Rickenbackers, Alembics, Zons, Steinbergers and
    Tobias basses... but no ef'n Ibanez!!! :-)

    
    From a song that most of you would say is not music.
    If there are more than two noters out there who get it, I'd be
    amazed....
    
    								-mr. bill

    
    
    Yes Bill, you are so superior than the rest of us cretins in this
    forum.  Tis humbling just to be in the presence of your greatness even
    if it's only electronically......
    
    
    Mike

    
    "Harlem Shuffle" ?

    
    .63
    
    ;-) ;-)

    Reference the the Biscuit men as Reading F.C were once known when there
    was a Huntley and Palmers factory in Reading years ago.
    
    Also the name of a band who released a cult album called Riot in
    Trumpton.
    
                                  

   <<< Note 113.62 by PERFOM::LICEA_KANE "when it's comin' from the left" >>>
                     -< The missing first four words.... >-
    
    The first four words are missing from "when it's comin' from the left"?
    
    How about:  Hang onto your wallet, when it's comin' from the left!
    
    Chris

Bell-bottom Blues.

    Frank Zappa: Pajama People
    
    	They got flannel up 'n' down 'em
    	A little trap door back around 'em
    	And cozy little footies on their mind...

   <<< Note 113.61 by MPGS::MARKEY "Bill Clinton: recognizable obscenity" >>>
                             -< EEEEEEEwwwwww!!! >-

    
>>  -b
>>  (Fenders, Music Man, Rickenbackers, Alembics, Zons, Steinbergers and
>>  Tobias basses... but no ef'n Ibanez!!! :-)


What's wrong with Ibanez basses?  Do they sound to good and play to well 
for you?

Joe

    
    Sounds like it's time for a `Musical Instruments' note.
    
    Fender vs. Ibanez...
    
    Tama vs. Slingerland...
    
    Yamaha vs. the WORLD...
    

    
    Pavarotti vs. Domingo...
    Te Kanawa vs. Sutherland...
                 

    roe vs. wade

    
    stove top vs. potato(e)s
    

Godzilla vs. Rodan

    tortillas vs. nacho(e)s

	Lillith vs Frasier

    Spy vs. Spy

    
    kramer v. kramer
    
    

    Sienfeld vs. Kramer

    I before E except after S. o ya.

 Seinfeld vs the beast

    
    It's a pronounciation thing.

Sinn Fein vs The Queen

    I freely admit my guilt to the typo. 8^)

    Lisa vs Michael
    

    Army vs. Navy

    .71
    
    No ibanez.  Rix rul.  Of course, you must be talented to play one.
    
    Fender Jazz OK for those with weak hands.

    'scuse, I got caught in a time warp...
    
    Bill  vs. Hillary

    
    pot vs. kettle

    .63:
    
    Don't you find such displays discomforting, in a pitiable fashion?
    
    Dick

Mine too is rather self explanatory.  I don't like to argue  :*)

When I first came (ooo-er) into the box, I was using favorite Seinfeld lines 
such as " In my mind I'm already gone"
	" Master of my own domain"
	" Maybe the dingo ate your baby"
	" Anyone for snapple?"
	" Double dipping is a social faux pas"
	" Mulva??"
	" Prognosis negative"
	" Oh, hello Newman"

but then the show when into summer repeats and I didn't watch it often 
enough to do updates to my PN.  Maybe I'll start again - there's always at 
least one good line IMHO.  Watch for future updates ;-)

Chris

    
    "Mulva??"
    
    OMIGAWD...that was so funny 8^).
    
    "Gipple?"

    Delores!

    
    
    	My uncle and I were talking about Seinfeld on T-day and
    	I asked him if he saw that episode and he said no.  So
    	I have him a quick rundown....he couldn't think of what
    	rhymed with Delores.....
    

    
    {ahem} and how did your aunt react to this?

    
    
    	He's divorced.  (but that's not the reason)
    
    	My mom didn't know either!
    

 Says it all ..

    el DELBALSO please explain P/N I can't remember or just don't 
    know what the hell you're on about.
    
    ta :^)

    no longer |d|i|g|i|t|a|l|

    
    thought you had left us..

    reflects current situation, self explanatory
    
    Funny, the first personal name I had when I joined DEC was 
    "... and it is full of stars ... " from 2001 Space Odysee, it also
    reflected my feeling at that time working for this company.
    
    Among others "Back to square one" after my divorce.
    
    Looking for a new one reflecting the fact that Learning Services
    Germany has been sold; currently favoring 
    " Slaves are not TFSO'ed, they're sold" ? ;-)
    
    Felix
    
    

	My personal name is from Rudolph. The land of misfit toys.

    
    Mine : a post-apocalyptic order from a restraunt menu.
    
    

    
    Mines wishful thinking after my October Stateside trip
    
    POL   :>>>>

                   Dancing on a Sea of Air 

    
    Jay, it's the 19th already...!  I'm starting to get impatient 8^).

	you could change it a half dozen times before the end of the
	year.
	
		 ;-)
	

    
    That's it, I'm coming over to smack you.  

	
	
	
	

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    ATTENTION:
    
    This is just to remind you that my sentence, passed down by Judge
    Komar, will be completed on January 1st at 12:00:01.  I will no longer
    be required to hold Barney in high esteem.  
    
    -Jack

    shall we expect some sudden recidivism, jack?

    Not only that, jack, should we expect you to do all those silly things
    over again right away?

    Darn it I tell you I'm innocent!!  I did it only once...that's all! 
    Lost my head...but I'm reformed now!!
    
    Regarding the changing of my personal header...all I can say now is
    that I have paid my debt to the Box Society and that I can enjoy the
    right to free expression AFTER December 31!
    
    Looking forward to it!
    
    -Jack

	Well, now that you have been hanging with Barney all this
time, I think the worst is yet to come............%^)

	We may have made a big mistake, It might have been better
to have Mister Rogers as the punishment.

	I think Jack looks better wearing purple than he would wearing a tacky
sweater and slippers!

	He might look better but he can incite more trouble
then as Mr Rogers.

       That's my latest in WebHumor.  If you dunno HTML, fageddabowdit.

>LJSRV2::KALIKOW "SERVE<a href="SURF_GLOBAL">LOCAL</a>"

Wisely heeded takeoff on "Think <a href="Act Globally">Locally</a>"

Everyone should have a home page, both within DEC and outside.

/john  http://bulova.zko.dec.com/people/john_covert.html

(We need to put www.vms.dec.com into the nameserver.)

/john

    >Everyone should have a home page, both within DEC and outside.
    
     Howzabout posting a "how to" for web challenged folk?

    Amazing.  That piccie by Claude Monet is the spitting image of 
    
    Gene Haag!!
    
    :-)
    
    |-{:-)
    

>piccie by Claude Monet

by Auguste Renoir.

of Claude Monet.

    Touch�
    
    :-)
    
    |-{:-)
    

    Douch�
    
    E::: :-)
    

    T Minus 9 days until my sentence is completed.  I do believe I have
    paid my debt to boxland.  Thank you all for reforming me and showing me
    the true meaning!
    
    -Jack

    Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Jack?

    Simply this my friend...I was convicted in a box trial last version and 
    my personal signifies the sentence I was to carry out!
    
    Please be advised that at 12:01 on New Years, my debt is paid to box
    society.  I intend to make personal choice on my set header and there
    isn't ANYTHING Komar, Silva or any other boxer can do about it!!!!!!
    
    -Jack

    I will celebrate with you by doing the dance of the flailing
    hermaphrodite with my pants down, turkey baster and linseed oil in
    hand.
    
    Glenn

    -1
    
    This must be circum::polar!

    -2
    
    This troubles me...

    
    
    -3...
    
    this i *gotta* see!!
    
    
    :>
    

    	re .130
    
    	What can anybody do about it now?

             ... so, back to the "Nom du Jour" in the next 'un...

       If yer curious as to wot I mean, I ain't tellin' fer awhile yit.

    
    Back in the Little Chamber of Perdition, but this time only one hand is 
    full of cork.
    

    
    I eagerly await Meaty's new p_name.
    
    
    I need a little excitement.  Jay let me down this season 8^(.

    
    I'm begining to suspect that Santa doesn't really exist
    
    POL  :<<<< 

	.139
	
	^ ^
	0 0
	 c    who!?  ME?! 
	 O
	
	
	

    
    It's too late for that innocent look, Jay.  I was crushed, and
    grievously so 8,^(.
                   

	
	I'll make it up to you. I promise.
	
	(as soon as I figure out what it is I done ;-)
	
	innocent_in_stow
	

    My Sentence is complete...I will now resume my former course!!!

    	re .146
    
    	One I saw somewhere else, and might seem appropriate for you
    	given your current p_name:
    
    	"CouldSomebodyComeAndFixMySpaceBar?"

    
    
    
    If I used spaces, it wouldn't all fit.
    

    .148
    
    > it wouldn't all fit.
    
    sure it would:
    
    Notes> mod prof/pers="29 days & still counting!"

    Have you tried that Sir Binder? Seems to me that the parser demands the
    first character be alphabetic (for some reason).
    
    -b

    .150
    
    erm, nope.  so get zen.  "twenty-9 days & still counting!"

    Idea stolen from someone recently, I forget who...  

    In honor of our newt speaker
    
    meg

    
    i'd lose the shameful moniker there, meg.
    
    jeff

    
    
    usually where I'm caught...:)

    which one?
    
    Proud?  (I am)
    
    counterculture?  (I am that as well)
    
    McGovernick?  (I was too young to vote in 72, but would have voted for
    him over Nixon.  by that time I had lost far too many friends and
    family to VietNam, and was fed up with the continual escalations and
    secrecy.  (One friend was MIA over Laos where we weren't supposed to be
    at that time.)
    
    meg
    
    

    
    meg,
    
    "proud? (I am)"
    "counterculture? (I am that as well)"
    "McGovernick?..."
    
    you may as well be succinct then and change it to "uneducable".
    
    i found 'perforated porcini' much more hopeful.
    
    jeff

    Meg:
    
    McGovern was interviewed recently and has forgone many of his
    philosophies of the seventies!!
    
    -Jack

    Jack,
    
    He is still a nice human being unlike far too many of the current crop
    of pols.
    
    meg

    
    
    well, we all know she meant 'mcgoverniq' anyway...
    
    
    :>:>
    

    
    but you don't honor him for his personality, do you?  and his ideas are
    almost thoroughly discredited along with the counter-culture's.
    
    really, meg.

    That may be the case.  However, other than legalizing weed, I fail to
    see how McGovern could have helped social causes any more than Nixon
    did...considering Roe v. Wade passed during the Nixon years as well as
    EEOC/AA mandates.
    
    Nixon was the most powerful foreign policy president of the 1900's.  
    McGovern would have freaked out!!!!
    
    -Jack

    
    You know it's a slow day when people are fighting over other people's
    personal_names.

	well, you said you needed a little excitement.
	
	;-)
	
	

    
    I was hoping for something a BIT more titillating 8^).

    
    oh, jollimore person...are you from the fitchburg area by chance??
    
    

    
    
      but it depends on who be on my boat. but for the most part its so
    nice to be 10-15 miles off shore on lake ontario and be in the buff
    the only problem is I sunburn easy, learned the hard (er uh) painfull
    way.
    
                                                       Lee
    

	.166
	
	why, yes.
	by chance i was born there. by choice i still live there.
	
	;-)
	

    Re .40
    
    Ahhhhh Back at last.

    
    I dunno; it has kind of a nice ring to it 8^).

    <---BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    oh, my.

    
    I'm not exactly sure where the cork should be in this particular LC.

    
    
    <<<TROOA::COLLINS "Rogering The Shrubber">>>
    
    
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! {ahem}

    
    ...nyuk nyuk nyuk...
    

    
    They don't serve this particular dish at Joe's American Bar & Grill
    in the Back Bay, but you can get it in the Little Chamber.   
                                

 My AOL address

    
    Hey...ainchoo that muppet guy?
    

 No, that's Jhender773

| <<< Note 113.177 by POWDML::LAUER "Little Chamber of Belgian Burgers" >>>


| Joe's American Bar & Grill in the Back Bay, 


	Deb, this isn't too far from my apartment!

| <<< Note 113.180 by TROOA::COLLINS "The Joy Of Socks" >>>


| Hey...ainchoo that muppet guy?


	No Joan, he ain't!

    
    Awwww, Glen, cut it out!  Quit calling me Joan!  C'mon!  :^)
    

    
    I haven't been to Joe's American Bar & Grill in AGES 8^/.

    
    <<<POBOX::BATTIS "Contract Studmuffin">>>
    
    
    
    ...!!
    

	Tom Collins better???

	Deb, wanna go sometime???

    Wheezer.  "The Sweater Song"

    
    ...Glen, are you asking me for a date 8^)?

	*blush*... why.... errrr.... uhhhh..... yes mam......*blush*

    
    I hope all of my dates in 1995 are not going to be with men who will be
    my competition for the other men in the bar 8^).

	Does this mean YES!!!!!!???????

    Does this mean that I could work at Joe's American Bar & Grill?

    
    You'd have to rewrite the menu.

    re: .188
    
    It's Weezer but your spelling is appropo of the band as well. :-)

    
    .186 :-)

    
                                                            ...PATION!
    

    
    Maybe the rain is really to blame.

    
    
      My cheap dictionary lacks "orgastic".
    
      = orgasmic ?  = orgiastic ?  = organic ?
    
       bb

You should obtain a better dictionary.
I was pleased to find it in mine. :^)

    
    
    .201
    
    SEE DEB?!?!?!?!?  i am not the only one...
    
    bb, as was pointed out to me, look at the END of the definition of the
    word "orgasm"...
    
    

| <<< Note 113.201 by GAAS::BRAUCHER >>>




| My cheap dictionary lacks "orgastic".

	bb, it's what plants do when they reach the breaking point of sex....

    I've had a host of suggestions,
    
    "FU, I'm outta here!"
    
    to some other more unprintable...so being the nice fellow I am, I
    cleaned it up.  

    Btw, Fortius is brought to you courteous of Mr. Binder!
    
    Thanks, Pugnax!

    re: .206
    
    Bwah-hah... a couple of (internal) jobs ago, I set up the Windows
    screen saver to repeatedly scroll "Take This Job and Shove It!"
    in a big, bold, italicized font across the screen.  This was the
    job where the senior manager had sworn up and down one month earlier
    that we were all "safe" for another year, and could in fact hire.
    Then a month later he pulled all of our jobs back to his country,
    put us all on the layoff list, and sent his people over here for
    us castoffs to train before we were dumped.  We were also supposed
    to pack up the project materials, docs, equipment, etc., and ship
    it over.  I hope that my replacement was entertained by the message
    the first time it popped up.  Childish, but around here you get
    your kicks wherever you can.
    
    Chris

    How about FYJIMO?  And not offense meant to any Jack's inhere, it is
    only a manner of speaking :-)

    At least he's not an 'alibut.

	or a halibut

    
    You're a looney.

    I am not a looney! Why should I be tarred with the epithet "looney"?!?

    Glenn/Deirdre/Pamela/Franny/Ned/Dierdre/Anton/Sean/Alice/Jimi/Pauline/Rex/
    Nathan/Melanie/Ursula/Hildegard/Nigel/Boutros Boutros/Leslie

	She may have meant the guy wit one n in his name..... 

    I have 3 n's in my name.

	I see 13 N's Glenn..... 

    You've been taking getting hit on the head lessons.

RE: 303.8 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "Weird Canadian Type Geezer"
				^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This personal name is rather redundant.  How about shorting it to
"Canadian",  Mr/Mrs/Ms/Miss/M Richardson?

| <<< Note 303.11 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "Weird Canadian Type Geezer" >>>


| You've been taking getting hit on the head lessons.


	Really, then tell me how many N's you see in your name:

    Glenn/Deirdre/Pamela/Franny/Ned/Dierdre/Anton/Sean/Alice/Jimi/Pauline/Rex/
    Nathan/Melanie/Ursula/Hildegard/Nigel/Boutros Boutros/Leslie

    
    Well, it all depends on what their last names are also.

Richardson, of course.

    
    Then there are 14 Ns.

	Oh God.... is it a Richardson for each name, or one Richardson for all?
Add in another 1+ to the list....

    There's only one thing worse in the world than being talked about, and
    that's not being talked about.

	We'll ALWAYS talk about ya Glenn....

    
    Hi Sybil

    jes.

    
    self explanatory

    <= seems to me you ought to only be allowed to use that on fridays. :-)

	"self explanatory" or "self congratulatory"  ???

	;^)

    
    <-- BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH{gasp}HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!!!!!!
    
    {ahem}
          
    {weakly wiping away a tear}

He's like Howard Cosell (sp?), a legend in his own mind:-)

Bob

    
    he thinks he's pretty hot stuff too...

    
    some romyn emperor said it. which one is left as an excercize
    for the readership.

    Cratius Lucius Anaphylaxis Anolfactorius Caesar, aka "Harry the Noseless",
    the berserker emperor with the itchy sword-hand and the collection of
    casual and dress thong-on probosces.  
    

    
    battle cry of a demented sociopathic convict fighting for control of
    a prison sewage outlet in the excellent prison uprising novel
    "green river rising."
    
    bill

    
             So RAHman, when iz we gonna hear de troof about .235?

    
    My hometown of London, Ontario is informally known as the Forest City.
    
    A friend used to joke about how `Forest City Madman' didn't have quite
    the same ring to it as `Motor City Madman'.
    

    NCAA bball thing...

    
    >PEKING::SULLIVAND "Not gauche, just sinister"
    
    Good one!    :^)
    
    - Dexter Droitman
    

    
    I just hadda....
    
    
    :*)
    

    ?

    
    Whazza cuddywifter?
    

    A disparagement of some sort.

    
    Oh, well then...
    

    Cuddywifter is one of the incredible number of English (British)
    dialect words meaning a left-handed person.
    
    (which I am)

    
    Ahhh!
    
    :^)
    

    
    line from SNL, and my latest money making hobby.
    
    Mark

    The new band was to be named "Spontaneous Human Cumbustion",
    but the mates thought that was too long and besides, a trip
    to the record store revealed another band with that name...
    
    Well, I wrote this new song that has that big hairy 'nads
    sound to it, and we were all sitting around drinking a lot
    of beer and working on the parts. The drummer asked me if
    I had a name for the song and I held up my bottle of beer
    and said "Liquid Sanctuary". When everyone heard that, it
    moved to the top of the potential band names list. The
    drummer called me late last night and said the more he
    thought about that name, the more he liked it. So, it may
    stick...
    
    ...and being the bass player in the band, I'm the bottom
    end... :-) :-)
    
    -b

Should we tell Terrie?

>>Should we tell Terrie?

	I already did, via mail.  She claims it's intentional. ;>

    
    
    It's SUPPOSED TO BE THAT WAY!!!  I didn't mean the stuff that
    flashes in the sky....It was a "PERSONAL" Name, and the person
    it was meant for got it immediately.  
    
    
    Terrie
    

Ya'll leave Terrie alone now.  

She does a great job of keeping up with notes.  

I still don't understand how she knows her fingers are weighing
less.(light-ening).


:-}}}}}}}}}

    
    
    Awe gee Mikey, tanks sexy voice. :*)
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

  Thanks, Jack!

re:       <<< Note 113.265 by CSLALL::HENDERSON "I (spade)my (cat face)" >>>

Looks good on you, Jim!

:^)

 :-)

    
    
    :*)
    

	SNARF!!!!

    What most video tapes tell me when I rent them.  It is so kind of them
    to reformat the tape to fit my personal screen.  I wonder how they
    know?  

    Ask my mother and she will say stubborn, ask me and i'll say "Leave me
    alone and i'll get it done in half the time"
    
    
    joan

    
    a few folks know......

    a few folks wonder....

    
    
    and those folks that know be wimminfolk.......

    So, you smoke with the ladies?

    
    
    One could say that I suppose......

He uses Fixodent on his dentures.

    tectonic plates no doubt.

    
    
    
    hmmmmmm.....now where are those hershey kisses??????
    
    

    
    	Mine's from a Horslips song of the same name.
    

    
    Trouble, with a capital "T",
    which rhymes with "P",
    and that stands for "Pool!"
    
    -b

    
    gee -b, I like it, _yes_ I do.

    re .282
    
    but see what thoughts can bring
    oh,oh,oh
    strange............

    
    
    	re: .282
    
    	Me too....
    

 me 3

    
    Oh, I love that movie.

    
    
    	Friends of mine got married this weekend and used
    	"Till There Was You" as their intro music....
    

    
    There were bells all around...
    
    

    
    
    	I believe it's 'there were bells on the hill....'  ??
    

 Way way back years ago, my mother was terribly upset when the Beatles
 covered that song.




Jim

 Yes, it was the birds that were all around, and Paul McCartney never sawr
 them winging.



Jim

   it was love that was all around

There were birds
in the sky
but I never SAWR
them winging.
No, I never SAWR
them at all
till there was you.

 That's right...the birds were in the sky and the love was all around..



 or something like that.

    
    Old old joke that somehow kinda sorta fits the theme that's
    developing here...
    
    	What do you call a dog with wings?
    
    
    
    	Linda McCartney

	and there was music and there were wonderful roses
	they tell me
	in deep, fragrant meadows of dawn and dew

	can that be right?? ;>  i love that song.

 Sounds right, di

 Til there was snarf!

	My p-name was given to me by a friend after a lot of different things
happened. The last being my badge picture not coming out. :-)

	no, no, no, wait - "sweet, fragrant meadows..."

    
    Oh, so like, you came out but your picture didn't? :-) :-)
    

	HAAAHAAAHAAAHAAHAAHAA!!!!!!  Brian... that was tooo toooo funny!!!!
Thanks for making me laugh! 

>    Old old joke that somehow kinda sorta fits the theme that's
>    developing here...
>    
>    	What do you call a dog with wings?
    
reminds me of another joke in a similar vein:

what do you call a dog with five dicks?


Lulu and Take That.  (perhaps a bit obscure for people not used to
the UK charts, but it was bad)

Back to the original topic, my PN's a bit obvious, really.

Chris.

    
    	RE: "The Music Man"
    
    	Never heard of it.  Any blood/gore?
    

    
    There were bells on the hill
    But I never heard them ringing
    No, I never heard them at all
    Till there was you
    
    There were birds in the sky
    But I never saw them winging
    No, I never saw them at all
    Till there was you.
    
    And there was music
    And there were wonderful roses
    They tell me
    In sweet fragrant meadows
    of dawn and dew
    
    There was love all around
    But I never heard it singing
    No, I never heard it at all
    Till there was you.
    
       

 .307  took you long enough ;>

    
    Sorry, I was at the copier 8^).
    
    Now I'm not so sure if it's dawn or down.  It's been years since I sang
    that and my brain cells aren't what they used to be.

re .307,

excuse me, but bluuuuuuuuuuurrrrgh!

Chris.

re:    <<< Note 113.307 by POWDML::LAUER "Little Chamber of Creamy Presents" >>>

sawR, please.

	meadows of down?  hmmm.  i think it's dawn.

    
	>meadows of down?  hmmm.  i think it's dawn.
    
    	Maybe it was the result of a freshly-trampled flock of ducks.
    

  .310  
 
  figures

The lyrics by themselves _are_ pretty stupid.  It's the music that makes
the song.  Deb, how about calling Mr. Lout and singing it to him?

>  .310  
> 
>  figures

I haven't even eaten my curry yet!

Chris.

	i'll grant you the tune makes the song, but the lyrics are 
	pretty sweet just the same.  imo.

RE:             <<< Note 113.312 by PENUTS::DDESMAISONS "person B" >>>


>	meadows of down?  hmmm.  i think it's dawn.

      not for a few hours, di.





Jim

    
    Give us your dtn, Mr.Lout 8^).

>    Give us your dtn, Mr.Lout 8^).

don't have one!  :P

Chris.

    
    <-- this is a difficult child.

	you left out the last line:
	
	
	'tilllllllllllll there was youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.

    do you like my pname? it is in response to some replies in EF about an
    article that apparently states that computer dorks are the sex gods of
    the 90's and their genes are in great demand. 
    
    hmmm....
    
    ric

    
    	No, it's the JEANS that are in great demand.
    
    	Levi's, Lee's, etc.
    

    Well, I see you've gotten the dork part down...

    *meow scratch hiss*
    
    ric

    
    {hysterical giggles}
    

  .326  oh wow, what's this?  a catfight among the men?
	

DougO sez we're not sposed to use that word in here .  . . 

    re .323
    
    I hardly think you can be classed as a sex god if you read/write in the
    EF conference. weeeeeeeds

EF's good for a laugh, lots of smutty innuendo.

Chris.

    No it's not.

Ah, you're just a miserable git!

Chris.

Kristen French.

    
    cause its true

    
    	But you said you DIDN'T have your pool cue today.
    
    	Maybe a change is warranted ...
    
    	"If had pool cue, would travel".
    
    	?
    

    
    well Shawn, your point is well taken, I will certainly keep it under
    advisement.

    
    This one is better in person 8^).

    
    
    8*O
    
    
    
    

    
    I meant, you have to see and hear it said!
    
    Altho a Little Chamber of Passhion probably would be pretty good in 
    person 8^o.
    

    8^@

    
    .340 oo flippen er!!

    
    Ah yes, the only kind of baloney I'LL eat!

>     <<< Note 113.345 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "Antihistamine Free Baloney" >>>
>                                  -< {cough} >-
        
        Hmmm - wonder if that would work to stir the chili...
        

    	

    I'm game!
    
    I doubt if I could improve on your perfect chili though.

    For Mr. Collins
    
    ;^)

    A stealth p_name...

    Not only that, you can't see it either!

    
    I would not, could not,
    Kill the king.
    I could not poison
    Anything.
    

 .351  <chuckle (not to be mistaken for laugh track)>

>================================================================================
>Note 323.436                     The AIDS topic                       436 of 436
>DECLNE::SHEPARD "It's the Republicans' fault"         6 lines   6-JUL-1995 19:24
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Joe Oppelt:
>
>	Curiosity is driving me nuts.  I must know what is "to blave".
>
>Tanx
>Mikey
    
    	It's from The Princess Bride.  Said by Miracle Max.

Thank you ... Thank you very much

Mikey (outta hyah)

    
    
    	"Sounds like someone trying to treat a bad case of strep with rye
    whiskey."
    
    

Too long.

    
    Try: "Snds lk smn trng 2 trt a bd cs f strp w/ry whsky."
    

    
    	:*)
    
    

    
    It still might make a good personal:
    
    	"DWM spent lifetime singing the
    	blues like someone trying to
    	treat a bad case of strep
    	with rye whiskey, seeks SWF
    	AA-dropout for moving duets."
    
    								-mr. bill

    
    	guffaw
    
    

    
    
    
    MPGS::MARKEY "the guy who talks about penises"
    
    
    
    
    

    wot's that old saying about those who can, do, those who can't talk
    (teach)?

    
    debra, it's "peni"...but you knew that... :>
    

    
    You talk to Brian about that, it's his p-name 8^).

    .363
    
    > debra, it's "peni"...
    
    No, it's not.  It's penes.

    
>>    No, it's not.  It's penes.

	... or "penises".

        or "dix"? Or is that reserved for 10" specimens??
        

    .366
    
    Spoilsport.

    
    I think "penii" sounds nicer, but there you go.
    
    

    Hey look I'm the expert and I say it's Harry or Harri for plural!

Real warning signs on the ceiling at North Station/Fleet Center.

>      <<< Note 113.371 by EVMS::MORONEY "DANGER Do Not Walk on Ceiling" >>>
>
>Real warning signs on the ceiling at North Station/Fleet Center.

Does Fred Astaire visit often?

    
    "M1A - The choice of champions !"
         My favorite rifle....
    
    "Jack Martin - Wanted Dead or Ali"
         A result of Jack Martin claiming I was a reincarnated MAILROOM
    
    "Jack Martin - RIP"
         The result of hunting down Jack in a Nashua bar
    
    "Love In An Elevator"
         Name of an Aerosmith song, also an interesting activity if I do
         say so myself ;->
    
    "The Lecher... ;-> "
         The name given to me by a lovely 'boxbabe
    
    "It ain't easy, bein' sleezy!"
         From a T-shirt advertising a blues bar
    
    
    Hope I didn't miss any....
    

>    "Jack Martin - Wanted Dead or Ali"
>         A result of Jack Martin claiming I was a reincarnated MAILROOM

Nah.  You're either a reincarnated J. Edgar Hoover or Herbert Hoover.
Or maybe you're the [Dirt] Devil.

    
    "Danimal" - Suggested by another 'Boxer.... I'm not quite sure why.
    
    :-)

    
    well Dan, the p_name is really more suited to its original owner,
    Dan Hampton of the Chicago Bears, retired. 

    
    Oh, I don't know.  I think the name suits him pretty well.
    
    ;-)
    
    
    Rob
    

    
  Take it from the ground up, this is the last roundup
  You can't win, and you can't break even
  You can't be leavin' the game anyway
  You've got to stay 'cause we came to play

  It's a new gene, a new wavelength, or maybe it's a virus
  Put the fire in us and inspire us
  To trust and lust for the good life
  And all that is required of us

  Turn to the headline news as if we had a right to choose
  To have no views as the rocket's red glare pollutes the air,
  And we swear that it can't happen here
  And we'll never be there

  We got the right to know, which means
  We got the right to misunderstand
  And slant the plan to help our hand and man
  They call it a culture, but it sucks you in like quicksand

  Killer bees finally make it to Tokyo
  Juliet never made it with Romeo
  But check out the video later
  Terminator III's gonna preview the next fifty years or so

  Give it up one more time for the king of soul
  Let the good times roll, bring it on, bring it on
  Dusk 'til dawn, the landlady's gone
  Send the bill to the government, pack it in cement
    
    			- World Wide Epiphany
    			  TR-I No World Order

John C..... WHAT song is "this tightrope feels like home" from?....
pleeeeeeessse....it's really really buggin me

    
    This tightrope just begins to feel like home
    When the wind comes rising from a distant storm
    But tonight I might
    Let go the line
    
    "Let Go The Line",  by (the band) Max Webster, lyrics by (if I recall
    correctly) Terry Watkins.
     

ahhhh... thanks. I have "A Million Vacations" buried away somewhere
and I think that's the album the song appears on

P.S. - I thought Pye Dubois (sp????) wrote most of the lyrics for
Max Webster.  I was never a really big fan of theirs, so it is
most likely I don't know what the hell I'm talking about !

    I see you there in your satin shirt, unfocused eyes on the ceiling....

    
    Chris,
    
    Yes, Pye Dubois wrote most of their lyrics, but Terry WatkinSON (sorry)
    wrote `Let Go The Line'.
    
    And, to correct to my eariler quote, the line goes:
    
    "And all I know is that tonight I might
     Let go the line, let go the line."
                   

    
    	Trying out my new p_n ... got "The Calvin and Hobbes Tenth
    	Anniversary Book" the other day, and this was in there.
    
    	I like it.
    

    
    
    Cute Shawn...very cute.  I think mine is very appropriate
    for the times.
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

    
    	And a little context, for anyone wondering what it means:
    
    	Calvin had a "lemonade stand" set up, but instead of offering
    	lemonade he was offering to give people "A swift kick in the butt
    	for $1".  And he was surprised that no one was stopping, since
        "Everyone he knows could use one".
    
    	8^)
    

    
    "Uneasy Rider" - from the Charlie Daniels Band song of the same name.
    
    "Had 'em all out there stepin' and fetchin'
     Like their heads is on fire, and their asses is catchin'"
    

    
    Inspiration from another noter!
    
    -b

Shouldn't that be "mynly"?

    Ah, good, at least I'm an inspiration to someone.  :-)
    Now someone tell my wife and kids!
    
    Chris

    re: .385
    
    I have that particular comic strip on my cube wall.
    
    Bob

    
    	Excellent choice, Bob.
    

    I think I'll place mine in 390.

This one comes from a meeting I was in this morning - anyone know
what it means?  :*)

    I know what it means.

    
    	Bend Over Here It Comes Again
    
    
    

<--- I've said that

    
    BLUUUUUUUURRRRRGH !!!
    
    
                                                        ------------------>
    
    

    ><--- I've said that
    
     To which the response was, "that little thing? Don't bother."

<----- <grin>

    I just got a much clearer picture of this one:
    
    "Little chamber of OhOhOh/OwOwOw"
    
    DougO

                     
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<---weight lifter!!!!

    
    	I got my "random p_n generator" running last week, so every hour
    	a .COM file picks the next one on the list and resets it.
    
    	So I'll be using 7-8 years worth of p_n's 1 at a time.  They come
    	from a variety of sources, like movies, songs, commercials, etc.
    	It took me 3 days to remember where "I want a yacht, bought by
    	you" was from.  8^)
    

    Does that mean when you get to the end of the list something special
    happens, like you leave, or something?  :-)
    
    

    
    	Nothing quite that drastic, no.  And I'm sure you're happy to hear
    	that.
    

    Actually, I was thinking you would have opted for the or something thing
    again.  Very enigmatic our Shawn is, unpredictable too!   

    
    "Reformatted to fit your screen"

    Hey Bri, every time I see your p_name it looks like 

    "Reformatted to fit your scream"

    :-)

    No, not quite.  If I try a little harder maybe, just maybe I'll send
    a few over the edge and then it would fit nicely.  :-)  I think I shall
    endeavor to persevere. 

    
    <---- Outlaw Josey Wales

    
    	If Josey Wales' are outlawed, only outlaws will have Josey Wales'.
    

    Yup, you are correctomundo.  

    
    	Great p_n!!
    
    
    <<< Note 474.72 by CALDEC::RAH "Gene Police! You! Outa the Pool!"
    

Note 34.6700                    OJ Simpson Trial                    6700 of 6706
BUSY::SLABOUNTY "ch-ch-ch-ch-ha-ha-ha-ha"             7 lines  23-OCT-1995 16:33
    
Lemme guess.  Running around in the woods with a hockey mask and a
    big axe?   

    
    	Good catch, Mike.
    
    	You've gotta watch "Halloween", if you like "scary but not gory".
    

    
 WAHOO::LEVESQUE "bon marcher, as far as she can tell"

    `Hatian Divorce'?
    

    Haitian Divorce.

    
    sumptin' like dat.   ;^)
    

    
    It says it all, dontcha think.

    A few
    
    NNTTM.

    
    better?

    Oh, yes, vastly better.  You are most kind.

    ...from "When the Angels Fall", by Gordon Sumner (Sting).

    Due to the interest in the source of this personal name...
    
    This one comes from when I was working at Lavoie's Farm in Hollis, NH
    as a youth. Every fall, we'd take the pigs to the slaughterhouse for
    their transformation into sausage, etc. Getting the pigs to the
    slaughterhouse basically involved getting them into the back of a
    pickup truck that had wooden stake sides. This was generally a
    difficult proposition. The pigs would be anywhere from 200-400 lbs, and
    none to keen on going for a ride. We chased them around the pig pen
    with hoes in hand, trying to herd them into the back fo the truck. We
    wheedled. We cajoled. We laid trails of donuts into the bed. Well one
    really big guy said "Alls ya gotta do is grab 'em by the ear and a back
    leg and toss 'em up there." Yeah, right. I must have weighed all of 100
    lbs at the time. Anyway, squealing pigs are _really_ loud. As we soon
    found out. This guy finally loses pateince with us and grabs one of the
    little (200 lbs) ones by the ear and a back leg. And it starts
    squealing. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK! REEEEEEEEEEEEEK! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!
    And the guy yells "squeal like the pig you are!" I was recently
    reminded of this (when I was hunting last wednesday, I came across a
    pig pen) and I thought it was funny. There is no truth whatsoever to
    the charge that this personal name bears any relationship at all to 
    the famous "Deliverance" line. /hth

       > Due to the interest in the source of this personal name...
       
       Try not to overestimate the interest.  But thanks for the
       self-indulgent note nonetheless.
       
       --Mr Topaz

    
    	Yup, Topaz is back.
    
    	I am quite interested in the origin of YOUR personal_name.  Can
    	you enlighten me?
    

    >But thanks for the self-indulgent note nonetheless.
    
     Always happy to please.

    
 LJSRV2::KALIKOW "Partially sage, & rarely on time"

    Why thank'ee !Joan.  Thing iz, here I yam in CA and DRDAN:: is
    unaccountably daid, so I can't reboot it.  So I'm reduced to noting
    from an old stomping ground, and I discovered a P_N about 2 years old. 
    So I sez wotthehey, why not resurrect yet an older Nom de N�te...  I
    may run thru some more afore the day is done.
    
    And BTW Markey, I hereby revoke your gadinkydust status in its
    entirety.  Go thou & sin no more.
    

    
    In honor of what I seem to spend most of my time doing these days...
    
    Ah, it's a living. And a damn good one at that!
    
    -b

    
    P_N is my response after being accosted at the mall by an
    over-zealous credit card pusher...

    -b

    
    <-----  are they anything like drug pushers?

    
    > CONSLT::MCBRIDE "pack light, keep low, move fast, rel"
    
    Hey Bri, What's wit da new p_name?
    
    

    It's a saying I use on occasion.  
    
    Pack light, keep low, move fast, reload often. 

    
    RE:  WAHOO::LEVESQUE "smooth, fast, bright and playful"
    
    Is this a quote from Robin Williams in the documentary he did about
    dolphins for "In the Wild" on PBS?
    
    He uses this phrase to describe dolphins. 

    correct

    	
    	phew, I thought it was related to another of those pig stories!
    

    
    Ok, thanks.  The show is great - I ordered my own copy from PBS and
    received it in the mail last week.
    
    (I have a lot of my own dolphin footage from the same Sea Life Park 
    in Hawaii that they featured in part of this documentary.  I went
    there twice a couple of months ago when I was in Hawaii and I took
    lots of video footage of the dolphins there.)

    
    Oh, I figured it was a description of some wine!
    
    

    No, but "kisses, bites, licks, thrusts, and stings" is.

    
    Anyone remember the p_n in here awhile back??
    
    "Gone ballistic. Back in 5 minutes."
    
    
     Who had that one?? It's a riot!!! :)
    

 I always liked this one..not sure who had it though.




 Jim

    
    	Latest personal name is from The Christmas Song.
    
    	Last Wednesday morning, while my husband was shoveling, I brought
    	our CD boom box out to the garage, placed it on the car, and
    	played Christmas music for him.  When this song came on, I noticed
    	for the very first time this unusual grouping in the lyrics.  I
    	very nearly quipped to my husband, "Well, I've got the turkey.
    	Now all we need is some mistletoe."  As an early Christmas gift,
    	I kept it to myself ;-)
    
    

    
    why, Karen, is your husband shaped like a butterball?

    
    My p_n is a string of meaningless, random characters.
    

    
    	You know, I never knew what the name of that song was.
    
    	You DO learn something new every day.  However, I've already
    	forgotten what I learned yesterday.
    

    No explanation needed.

    
    	Intestines??
    

    
    <---- its not a job, it's an adventure.

    Mark, you require "its" lessons.

    
    	Something like that, Mark.
    
    	He's 6' tall, weighs 180 pounds, and has 7.2% body fat.
    
    	A real butterball.
    
    

    
    obvious for those that have met me in person.

    Battis,
    
    You have two butts?
    

    
    >You have two butts?
    
    
    
    Probably owns a bird with a big beak....

    
    	I have 4 butts ... and 5 shafts.
    
    	And a case to carry them in.
    

Shawn, didn't I see you in the sideshow?  You were next to the man with
three eyes and two noses.

    
    .457
    
    no, butt I have two cheeks. :-)

    
    See "Twelve Monkeys".

    
    in honor of a great pool shark.

    
    	If Fats had had Internet access, I'm almost positive he would've
    	had a p_n of "Mark Battis, I salute you.".
    

        DECLARE  LONG   DUNSEL  ! DUNSEL is a term used by mid-shipmen  !
                                ! at starfleet academy. It refers to a  !
                                ! part which  serves no useful purpose  !

    Glenn,
    
    It goes back the time of Nelson's era in the English Navy.
    I'm not sure of all the facts but it has something to do with a sail.
    
    Now all you have to do is find a history of the English Navy and your
    all set.
    
    Hope this helps :-)
    
    
    
    joan
    

    I am reasonably certain that Nelson was unaware of the existence of
    Starfleet Academy.

    8^)

    Nelson my have been unaware of Starfleet but Kirk and Piccard were
    never far away from the English Navy.
    
    
    joan

    The word dunsel does NOT appear in the Oxford English Dictionary. 
    However, that has never stopped a fearless etymologist.
    
    In naval speech, sail is often contracted to s'l, such that mainsail
    would be pronounced mains'l.  One oldish use of the word dun is as a
    verb, meaning to thunder/make a sound.  (This meaning has the same
    derivation as our word din.)
    
    This all suggests that duns'l might be a slang seamen's term for sail
    that is making noise.  This would be a sail that has been allowed to
    luff such that it's now flapping noisily, and a duns'l would be an
    indicator of poor seamanship.  Poor sailors are extra baggage on a
    ship, as in fact a duns'l would also be (because the sail wouldn't be
    contributing to the ship's propulsion).

    well done, Richard.

    
    .469
    
    where does he come up with all of these!!! I learn something every time
    I read his notes. Professor Binder, indeed.

    >>             -< Anyone know where this quote comes from? >-
    
    Just in case you were asking a Trekkie trivia question instead of
    a word-origin question, I believe the episode in question was
    "The Ultimate Computer".  Some Commodore (Wesley?) on another
    starship was on the horn with Kirk discussing the M-5's initial
    test run of handling the Enterprise, and at the end he told Kirk
    something like "Send my congratulations to Dr. Daystrom [the
    inventor of M-5, "MYYY engrams!"], and regards to Captain Dunsel."
    
    Sigh.  Why do I remember this junk?...
    
    Chris

    'cause you have the same desease I do.
    
    McCoy, totally clueless as usual, says "Dunsel!? Who the blazes is
    Captain Dunsel!? Spock? What's it mean?"

    Avast ye lubbers,
                     
    Dick's detective work was right, but the "dun" is wrong.  The
    closest approximation is "stuns'l" (studding sail) or "stay'sl"
    (staysail).  Stunsl's were old technology by the 1830's.
    
    

    .474
    
    Oh, Colin, dun might not be wrong - I was offering a POSSIBLE meaning,
    not necessarily the real one, if there is even a real one.
    
    Common seamen's parlance for a sail that's luffing is a luffer, but who
    knows, duns'l may once have had a brief 15 minutes of fame - or it may
    have been invented by some naval author... The term doesn't appear in
    any of C. S. Forester's or C. Northcote Parkinson's or Kenneth Roberts'
    naval tales, anyway.
    
    Stuns'ls were old in the 1830s, but they were not at all old during the
    Napoleonic era, which is when Lord Nelson made his real estate deal at
    Trafalgar.

    Ah, but it's a feature of English English that nautical terminology
    has always been very precise and is still enshrined in the lingo.
    On one hand, "dun'sl" would be too good to throw away if it ever
    existed, "belay that mutinous dun'sle" would be in at least 10
    movies by now.
    
    Terms like "stow that", "loose cannon" or "brass monkey" from that era
    are still common parlance.  I wouldn't expect such terms to come into
    use willy nilly because it was very important to use precise terms on a
    sailing ship.  The possibility of confusing dun'sl for stun'sle during
    a storm or a broadside is very real.
    
    Many technical terms for sails, and a lot of "behavioural" terms are
    still used by the RYA sailing manuals so that sailors can progress
    from vessel to vessel.  You can still find "stun'sle" in the
    dictionary even though it is an obsolete term (as you can drabble,
    lateen etc.).  Even if it had brief usage, chances are it would be
    recorded somewhere and caught in some writer's net.
    
    lastly, a luffing sail doesn't make a lot of noise compared to all the
    other noise from the rest of the ship.  It tends to flutter and vibrate
    or hum.  A sail would make a lot of noise if all the stays
    broke and the sail was flapping.  But the correct sailing term, for
    that is: "Oh sh*t"!
    
    Cap'n Colon.
    
    
    
    
    

    How did the term "brass monkeys" (meaning very cold) come about??
    
    I`ve often uttered the expression "it`s brass monkeys outside" (often
    reduced to merely "it`s brass outside"). 
    
    How about "I haven`t got the foggiest idea"?? Is that anything to do 
    with nautical type talk? Ie,sailing your ship through the fog,and not
    knowing where you`re going,maybe??
    
    

    
    The term brass monkey refers to a triangular, rimmed plate that was used
    to stack cannon balls next to the guns.  On very cold days, spindrift
    would freeze on the balls, making it impossible to remove them from the
    brass monkey.
    
    The expression that came about was:
    
    	"It's cold enough to freeze the balls on a brass monkey"
    
    Which is shortened in modern parlance to:
    
    	"It's brass monkeys today"
    
    As for the other term, I haven't the foggiest.
    
    Cap'n Colon.
    
    

re .478:

The expression is "cold enough to freeze the balls OFF a brass monkey",
and it comes from the different contraction rates of brass and iron (cannon
balls).  On really cold days the cannon balls wouldn't fit properly and
come loose.

    
    
    
    BANG!!!!!!                                    PLOP!!!!!
    

    .479
    
    Oh yeah?  Says who?

I don't buy any of this stuff about cannons. I think it derived from
what balls are normally thought to be, i.e., testicles, and IMO that
condition implies really cold, as does 'colder than a witch's tit'.

Of course, you could be right, but I prefer the anatomical
implication!

Pete

>    Oh yeah?  Says who?

One of my urban legend books does.  I'll post a reference tomorrow.
Meanwhile look at:

ftp://cathouse.org/pub/cathouse/urban.legends/language/etymology/brass.monkey

The cannon ball bit sounds right, but it's easy to imagine that the expression
has the "sound" which contributes to the evolution of a more slangy (i.e.,
biological -> swearing) implication, albeit incorrect. Slang expressions can
evolve from their meanings in this way. Take "the cat's out of the bag" for
instance.

    I took the cat out, now what do you want me to do?

    
    <--- snuff the dog, and you'll be set.

| <<< Note 113.486 by ACISS1::BATTIS "pool shooting son of a gun" >>>


| <--- snuff the dog, and you'll be set.

	Stuff the dog would be better. Then the cat could use it as a
scratching post!

    
    >>>USAT05::HALLR "God love's even you!" 
    
    
    Oh, Ronnie!  I'm appalled.
    

    Why so, Miss Deb?

    Well, for one thing the extraneous apostrophe probably hurts her
    delicate eyes.

    
    Zackly |^o.
    
    

    >>   Well, for one thing the extraneous apostrophe probably hurts her
    >>   delicate eyes.
    
    
    And we all know that a loaded apostrophe is a dangerous thing.
    
    AND;
    
    an apostrophe in the hand is messy.

    
    nonsense, all Ron needs is the Ronco Apostrophe Remover, available
    at fine stores everywhere. Myself, I liked the company so much, I
    bought it.

    Roncos are very cheap to own
    So hurry to your store.
    Do run Ron, Ron.  Do run Ron.
    They'll extract your apostrophes,
    And throw them on the floor,
    Do run Ron, Ron.  Do run Ron.
    

    
    	I like the p_n, Doc.
    
    
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    But is he?

    
    
    In his own mind, maybe....
    
    
     :)
    

    
    	It's a song by The Cars.
    

	Mark is very dangerous....on the basketball courts!

personal snarf!

    
    
    	Hey!  Who said you could have your very own personal snarf!  =)
    

    
    	re .491
    
    	mz_debra, has that blemish on your chin cleared up yet ?
    
    	;-)
    

    
    Yes, the cat has licked it off 8^) .
    				      ^
    

    > Yes, the cat has licked it off 8^)
    
    gurf. thanks for the visual.
    
    I do 'preciate it.

    
    well, mz_debra has a lovely chin. tyvm

    A well deserved {simper} I might add.  She has good taste in kissing
    partners, too, hint, hint...

        'tis twue - she admits to  liking the feel of whiskers on her
        lips...
        
        &y
        

>        'tis twue - she admits to  liking the feel of whiskers on her
>        lips...
        
talking of which, I just looked at the 'Box web page.  Is it mandatory for 
everyone to have a beard (gurlies excepted, of course) (well, I assume), in 
which case I apologise.  But I can draw one on with a marker pen if that makes 
anyone any happier.

Chris.

>Is it mandatory for everyone to have a beard (gurlies excepted, of course)

Girlie men are also excepted.

| <<< Note 113.510 by NOTIME::SACKS "Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085" >>>

| Girlie men are also excepted.

	I'm there..... 

    
    well, while my pic is not on the Box page, rest assured, I have no
    beard. or brains for that matter, either.

tha's OK;

my beard has been growing internally for about a year now.

    It's from the M&Ms commercial.
    
    Gotta love it!!!

    
    >>CBHVAX::CBH "Mr. Creosote"
    
    Bluuuurrrrrggggghhhh!
    
    8^)
    

>    >>CBHVAX::CBH "Mr. Creosote"
>    
>    Bluuuurrrrrggggghhhh!

well, as I said, it was my sister's 18th last weekend.  The ensuing curry and 
lager frenzy makes the label fairly appropriate...  :P

Chris.

    So what did you get her?  Pissed?

>    So what did you get her?  Pissed?

nah, she can do that all by herself with all these designer ciders going 
around these days (10 bloody percent ABV!  And they serve them in pints!)  I 
took the safe but boring option and got her a gold bracelet, and I'm now 
consequently skint...

Chris.

    What a nice brother you are.

    Ten percent, in pints!  Bloody hell, do they let you drive home after
    you've downed one?

>    Ten percent, in pints!  Bloody hell, do they let you drive home after
>    you've downed one?

er, no.  A couple of pints of that stuff and you can barely walk, let alone 
drive.

Chris.

    A couple of more pints after that, driving becomes much easier. In
    fact, you won't even remember driving home, it becomes so effortless.

    
    	Wait, wait ... 10%?  Is that strong?
    
    	I guess your alcohol content rating is different from ours?  I
    	mean, we have 80-proof [40%] vodka, etc.
    

    
    The alcohol content rating is the same, I think - it's just that 10% is
    much stronger than most beers, just a little weaker than most wines -
    To put it in perspective, would you drink two pints of wine at a
    sitting?
           
    

    cheths shounds likah wwundrfful ideahhh.

    
    	I don't even drink 1/2 a glass of wine in 1 month, so that's
    	not a very good comparison.
    
    	8^)
    
    	Oh, oh ... I see what you mean now.  My tolerance for alcohol
    	is such that if I drink more than 1 beer in 2 hours I have to
    	follow with something non-alcoholic [Coke, or coffee] or I will
    	get sick.  So I could answer, "The most beer I could drink in 1
    	sitting is 2".
    
    	[Beer is 4% alcohol, if I remember correctly.]
    

    3.5 for the 7-11 selction.

    In addition to having 2 to 3 times the alcoholic content of ordinary
    beers, this cider is served in pints.  That's BRITISH pints.  We are
    talking about a single drink that contains TWO FLUID OUNCES of alcohol. 
    One ordinary bar drink, if 90-proof hooch is used, contains 0.68 fluid
    ounce of alcohol.

    
    	Dang, I need to visit Britain one of these days. :)
    
    
    

    
    well Dick, that works for me.

    I was there on Monday and I _still_ have a headache.

>    	Dang, I need to visit Britain one of these days. :)
    
do that, I'll buy you a pint of the West Country's finest Old Gut Rotter.  
Some of that live cider is positively *evil*.

Chris.

    
    
    	
    >do that, I'll buy you a pint of the West Country's finest Old Gut Rotter.  
	
    	sounds like my buddy's homebrew. ;*)
    
    

>    	sounds like my buddy's homebrew. ;*)
    
hmm, yes, I've experienced similar homebrew, like the guy who thought it'd be 
a laugh to throw an extra bag of sugar in for good measure.  Tasted 
disgusting, but a person could go into a coma just by breathing in the 
fumes...

Chris.

    
    
    	re: extra sugar
    
    	Yup, that's my buddy fer sure. :)
    
    
    

    >         re: extra sugar
    >         Yup, that's my buddy fer sure. :)
    
    izzat why they call youse 'sugar lips"?

    
    	{blush - wink!}

    
    I have some beer in my refrigerator that's 8.5% and 9%.
    
    8^q
    
    

    >    <<< Note 113.538 by POWDML::HANGGELI "Little Chamber of French Heaters" >>>
    
    > I have some beer in my refrigerator that's 8.5% and 9%.
    
    are you bragging or complaining?
    
    	*8)

    
    <-- Salivating 8^).
    
    

    >     <-- Salivating 8^).
    
    well, I gots a bottle of Saint Sebastian waiting at home for me.
    
    at $7 for 16oz ol' S. Sebastian had better send me to sleepy-land with
    SUCH a smile on my face..
    
    Now if I can just get S.S. to do the dishes, walk and brush the dogs,
    vacuum, clean the windows, etc. I'll be all set.
    

    Can you still get TNT cider?? If I remember,it`s around about 8-10%
    (ish). Great bottle - it`s designed like a stick of dynamite.
    
    However,my favourite is Dry Blackthorn Cider. A bit of a dying breed,
    these days unfortunately.
    

    .542
    
    Had a pint of dry Blackthorn last October in a pub near St Augustine,
    Florida.  Bit of a surprise, this place, built to look like a real pub
    inside, run by a Brit and his wife, the food was about pub quality,
    too.  Better than in the old Whore's Bed in Reading, I must say.

    "The Whore`s Bed"??
    
    I trust you mean "The Boar`s Head"??
    
    It`s been done out,after spending a couple of years derelict. (It got
    burnt down due to some arguement about supplying drugs).
    
    Not too bad these days,but you get a full body frisk,due to a big
    knife fight which happened a couple of months back.
    

    
    re: .538
    
    >I have some beer in my refrigerator that's 8.5% and 9%.
    
    
    Forget the dark-roast I asked you to pick for me... and bring this
    instead.... okay???
    

    
    I'll bring both 8^).
    
    

    .544
    
    > I trust you mean "The Boar`s Head"??
    
    Yup.
    
    I knew it'd been done in, wasn't aware that it's now done out.  But I
    don't allow full body frisks.

>But I don't allow full body frisks.
    
    Except by Barbara. :-)

    Well, yes, actually...

    
    SCASS1::BARBER_A "breath in, breath out"  
    
    This is bothering the heck out of me.  How do you pronounce this, and
    what does it mean?
    

  .550  phew.  i thought it was just me.

    Oops.  8)

Well, you don't need to be so loud, though.

 maybe someone's in delivery.

    .553 yes you do.  

    
    
    re: .550
    
    	It's a line from a song that happens to be popular right now (take
    a listen to 107.3fm WAAF at 9pm on weeknights...they play the top nine
    request songs and this is usually one of them). I forget the group that
    doesn it. 
    
    
    jim

    Bush.

    
    
    	Why thank you 'pril.
    
    

    
    
    	One of my fave tunes at the moment too.
    

    Machine Head.

    Is that like mechanical felatio?

    fellatio.  nnttm

    I would never have presumed to have thanked you.

    
    	You wouldn't thank Bonnie for fellatio?
    
    	Shame.
    

    there once was a lad named horatio...

    
    	Is the rest of that suitable for posting in here?
    
    	I've never heard that 1 before.
    

    |Is the rest of that suitable for posting in here?
    
     no.  i've decided it would probably be tasteless.

    How dare you make a unilateral decision like that?

    it's easy.

	Bonnie, should you have said that in the note # you were in?

    
    	113 is a rather innocent number, no?
    

    glen, it was a unilateral decision, not a bilateral one.

    Well, good thing it wasn't a trilateral commission of an indecent act!