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86.1 | Michael J. Fox | TIGER::SLABOUNTY | A Momentary Lapse of Reason | Tue May 31 1988 12:52 | 10 |
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You remember him in 'Back to the Future', right? How he
played that solo in front of the people at the dance at
the High School?
Well, someone went and told Chuck Berry about it and Chuck
wrote some songs - need I say more?
GTI
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86.2 | Eddie Kramer | HAZEL::STARR | You grow up and you calm down | Tue May 31 1988 12:57 | 36 |
| My vote is for Eddie Kramer!
Who?
Yes, Eddie Kramer! Not one of the names that will appear on the
tip of your tongue, but wait until you see his list of credentials!
Eddie has produced and/or engineered the following albums:
Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland
Led Zep - II, IV, Houses of the Holy, Physical Graffitti, and Song
Remains the Same
Now, IMO, that already puts him in a class by himself. But look
at what else he has done:
Humble Pie - Rockin' the Fillmore
Peter Frampton - Frampton Comes Alive
Kiss - Alive and Alive II
Fastway - Fastway, All Fired Up
Triumph - Thunder Seven
Anthrax - Among the Living
Ace Frehley - Frehley's Comet
and others....
I feel he is one of the first, and only, producers to capture
the feel and power of a rockin' guitar on vinyl. I sometimes wonder
if it was really Jimmy Page getting all those great guitar sounds
(remember the POWER of Whole Lotta Love!) or whether it was actually
Eddie Kramer. (I mean, why do the Firm sound like sludge!)
It is tough to point to any one individual as being THE most
influential in HM, but with a resume like Eddie Kramer's, I think
he is the closest.
Rock On!
Alan S.
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86.3 | Every guitarist in the world has played thru a Marshall! | MARKER::BUCKLEY | William J. Buckley | Tue May 31 1988 14:03 | 7 |
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Jim Marshall
Without his dedication to producing the world's most famous valve
amps, where would HM, or rock in general be today?
Buck
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86.4 | Who built the pyramids? Aerosmith! | PLEXUS::V5REGISTRAR | | Wed Jun 01 1988 12:54 | 15 |
| I think I'd have to say Aerosmith.
Maybe they aren't the sole contributor or anything, but there aren't
too many hard rock/metal bands out there right now that will say
that Aerosmith had *nothing* to do with what they are today.
If you listen hard enough, you can hear them everywhere, just about.
(Aerosmith's everywhere! Aerosmith's everything! Aerosmith's
everybody! Aerosmith's still the king)
PS- Michael J. Fox has *NO* Aerosmith in him!
Stacie Watkins
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86.5 | I like smokin' lightnin' .... | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | | Wed Jun 01 1988 12:55 | 8 |
| re .3
Sorry Coop, Buck's right ya know !!! I think another influence
was Steppenwolf ( remember "Heavy Metal Thunder" in "Born To Be
Wild" ?). I didn't think they were much back then but I like their
stuff now.
Mr Scary II
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86.7 | Smoke on the Water | FILTER::COLLINS | To Hell with Bryant Gumball! | Wed Jun 01 1988 14:51 | 4 |
| I'd have to say Deep Purple influenced Heavy Metal.
Just my $.02
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86.8 | | SUBURB::DALLISON | just tuning the G-string... | Thu Jun 02 1988 05:17 | 14 |
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I'd have to say Aerosmith and Ritchie Blackmore (Purple/Rainbow)
were the most influential. Ask the likes of Guns 'n Roses/Faster
Pussycat etc..
But what muscian can influence a master like Malmsteen???
Why Bach and Motzart of course!!
My personal influences are/were old Iron Maiden (Killers etc..)
Ronnie James Dio, Vivian Campbell and old Whitesnke.
-Tony
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86.9 | Bands Separate and spruce up other bands | FILM::COLLINS | To Hell with Bryant Gumball! | Thu Jun 02 1988 07:44 | 15 |
| Look at how many groups were formed and re-formed by the break up
of Deep Purple.
Rainbow (a.k.a Richie Blackmore's Rainbow)
Black Sabbath (Ian Gillan, Ronnie Dio)
Alcatraz (Graham Bonnet former Rainbow vocalist)
Dio
Whitesnake (Former DP vocalist)
Malmstien (Influenced by Blackmore now has Joe Lynn Turner)
That's all I can think of right now but I think there are more.
Can anyone add to this list?
BC
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86.10 | | SUBURB::DALLISON | just tuning the G-string... | Thu Jun 02 1988 08:09 | 8 |
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RE:DP family tree
Ozzy Osbourne (Ozzy was from Sabbath)
+ I thought Malmsteen was once in Alcatraz
-Tony
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86.11 | | HAZEL::STARR | You grow up and you calm down | Thu Jun 02 1988 09:09 | 6 |
| Malmsteen was in Alcatrazz. I have their album "Live Sentence", which
has a cover of "Since You've Been Gone" on it.
Also in the DP tree, wasn't Ozzy's keyboardist originally in Rainbow?
Alan S.
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86.13 | | SUBURB::DALLISON | just tuning the G-string... | Thu Jun 02 1988 09:37 | 3 |
| Cozy Powell: Rainbow ------> Whitesnake
-Tony
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86.14 | "Am I showing my age again?" | COMET::FERRISM | | Thu Jun 02 1988 09:42 | 4 |
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How about Iron Butterfly, first album called "HEAVY"
Blue Cheer - "SUMMERTIME BLUES"
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86.16 | In the beginning..... | SYSENG::MCLAUGHLIN | | Thu Jun 02 1988 11:17 | 29 |
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I'd have to agree with .6, because Sabbath was the first "Heavy
Metal" band as we know them today. Not only were they the first
to really have a metal sound, but they were the first to use the
"evil" theme of the devil, death, etc. Now this is not to start
an argument on whether they worship Satan or anything like that,
but Satan has been a very popular theme in a lot of what is con-
sidered heavy metal. In my opinion, even the bands whose writing
seems to indicate Satan worship only do it because of the image
it portrays, and that all started with Sabbath.
Bands like Led Zep and Deep Purple were the forefathers of what
we now consider "heavy rock" and I don't think it is fair to
categorize these bands as the first metal bands, although they
probably did influence future heavy metal and heavy rock bands.
Credit for any and all of todays rock goes to all the dudes in
the 50's and 60's who didn't really know what they were getting
into, but turned those electric guitars up a little louder than
anyone else had and started to wail.
One other band that deserves mentioning is Judas Priest for
starting that ever so heavy twin-guitar attack. I really can't
think of any hard rock bands before them that used the two guitar
format in the way they did, and in the way that so many of today's
great metal bands do now.
Sean
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86.17 | | SUBURB::DALLISON | just tuning the G-string... | Thu Jun 02 1988 11:48 | 4 |
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Different people are likely to have different influences.
-Tony
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86.18 | This is your brain on Priest, and questions ? | SAMURI::COOPER | Gold Card member! *� Over The Bars Club �* | Mon Jun 06 1988 10:42 | 16 |
| Has to be Priest. Gawd I love that rawnch. Seems to me that between
Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, and JS Bach, that is the end of the
issue.
Personally, I like Priest better than Black Sabbath. Why ? 'Cuz.
Seems like Priest was the first band to come on stage with their
Harleys and mic'd exhausts. The first to wear leather, studs, and
spandex...The first to "bang heads"...
Need I say more ?
JC
BTW - Jim Marshall no doubt had a lot to say with his stack he said
it with power.
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86.19 | MY BEST | WILVAX::BOURQUE | | Mon Jun 06 1988 14:25 | 25 |
| ONLY ONE BAND...started my playing drums
B L A C K
S A B B A T H
JIM...TAMA
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86.21 | Bill,Might be this. | WILVAX::BOURQUE | | Tue Jun 07 1988 07:18 | 28 |
| Buck it could be this.........
+ +
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+ S +
+ + """""
B L A C K " "
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* B * """""" """"""
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* B * """""" """"""
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JIM....TAMA
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86.24 | The real influences | USHS01::DAVIS2 | You need wings to stay above it. | Tue Jun 07 1988 10:06 | 16 |
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Hmmm... who has the most influence on heavy metal?
Two answers spring immediately into mind:
1) Record Producers (since they determine what
the publich will hear).
2) The record-buying public (since they have the
money that makes it all happen).
Bohemian set of values, yes. But that's the way the
world really works, no?
-=[MOSAT]=-
(still cynical after all these years)
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86.25 | Metal vs. Aluminum | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | No contest your honor ... | Tue Jun 07 1988 10:56 | 15 |
| Producers and the buying public influence radio music. I don't
think Metalheads are into the popularity thing too much. Bands
like Bon Jovi, Poison, Cinderella, etc. are playing to the public,
that's why they (IMO) aren't Heavy Metal, aluminum maybe, but not
like Priest or Metallica. Do you think most true metal bands plan
a song around it's crowd appeal ?? I don't. Metal comes from the
heart, not from the wallet. You don't get into Metal to get your
picture on the cover of People magazine, or to get a 5 million dollar
hut. You do it 'cause you got something to say, and you don't give
a sh*t how people take it, the ones that relate to it are the folks
that buy the records and pay your bills. For the rest of 'em, it's
Tiffany time ......
Mr Scary II
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86.26 | | USHS08::DAVIS2 | You need wings to stay above it. | Tue Jun 07 1988 11:10 | 12 |
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No, my point isn't that bands let the money influence
their music (which they must do to some extent), but that
even the world's greatest heavy metal band (yours perhaps)
will not be heard and appreciated unless it is produced.
Don't kid yourself... money drives heavy metal as much
as it does pop. It's a fool's paradise, but it's the only one
we've got.
-=[MOSAT]=-
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86.27 | In My Humble Opinion | ERIS::CONLON | An anchovy pizza, hold the pizza. | Wed Jun 08 1988 03:24 | 10 |
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I'll say Jimi Hendrix influenced HM the most, because he revolutionized
the guitar and the way most people looked at it and listened to it.
He also created alot on new equipment that is still influencing
HM. He was also kick*ss on the guitar too.
The Pizza Guy <)
Who_thinks_that_insomnia_is_a_great_way_to_catch-up_on_notes. :-)
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86.28 | Raise Your Fist And Yell | ATEAM::BUTKUS | Staying alive,staying alive...V.dracula | Thu Jun 16 1988 12:16 | 9 |
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I'm suprised no one mentioned Alice Cooper.He came up with
the look and the attitude.
M
B
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86.29 | Acid Rock Connection? | BUSY::JMINVILLE | down at the Spanish Moon | Thu Jun 16 1988 12:48 | 14 |
| Do you think any of the "acid rock" bands of the late '60's might
have had an influence on HM? The only reason I think the answer
is yes, is because back when Black Sabbath's first album came out,
I joined my first band and we named ourselves "Satan Acid" (it went
over real well with our parents :^) especially 'cuz we were only
in Jr. High). Now I have dated myself.
I'm thinking along the lines of: Moby Grape, Jefferson Airplane,
Strawberry Alarm Clock, Yardbirds, etc. anybody in this conference
remember these bands?? They were real HEAVY in their day.
Somebody already mentioned Steppenwolf and Iron Butterfly...
joe.
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86.30 | Alice is great! | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Greg House - CSC/CS | Thu Jun 16 1988 13:09 | 7 |
| RE: .-2
Definitely Alice Cooper. I remember reading an interview with Randy
Rhodes where he said that Alice (& band) were one of his big
influences.
gH
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86.32 | Also | ATEAM::BUTKUS | Staying alive,staying alive...V.dracula | Thu Jun 16 1988 15:09 | 12 |
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There's 2 more bands I forgot T.Rex and The New York Dolls
If you have ever seen a video of Marc Bolan of T.Rex
You would swear it was almost Paul Stanley,and the Dolls
have the look and sound of Faster Pussycat,G&R,Hanoi Rocks
Viper,And Kiss
M
B
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86.33 | N.Y. Dolls | BROCK::MINARDI | | Fri Jun 17 1988 07:41 | 6 |
| ah... you mean Faster Pussycat, G&R, Hanoi Rocks, Viper, and Kiss
have the look and sound of the New York Dolls?
The 'Dolls have been a big influence to the sound and style
of a lot of bands since.
/Motorbreath...wasn't Blackie a Doll?
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86.34 | I REMEMBER | COMET::FERRISM | | Fri Jun 17 1988 07:53 | 8 |
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RE 29.
I remember all those bands you mentioned. I think many of the 60's
and 70's groups did much to influence HM. Hendrix, Cream and how
about Uriah Heep? Anyone remember these guys. If not find a copy
of Look At Yourself. (we're talking crank'in now). As mentioned
in another topic these guys used keyboards extensively.
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86.35 | A BLAST from the past | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Opinion Set Hidden | Fri Jun 17 1988 08:06 | 6 |
| I gotta agree about Uriah Heep. I had forgot about them. They
did have a truly powerful guitar/keyboard mix. Demons and Wizards,
and Magicians Birthday to me are classic albums.
Mr Scary II
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86.36 | Alice C.! | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Greg House - CSC/CS | Fri Jun 17 1988 11:02 | 8 |
| This topic jogged me a bit, so I went home last night and listened
to some old Alice Cooper. He had to be an influence on HM! What
I was listening to was the 'Killer' album. That sucker came out
in 1971. If you have it, it has a song (3rd one on side 1) that
I think is called 'Halo of Flies' that has elements of many current
HM trends in it. Some parts are even a little like thrash.
gh
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86.38 | Good choice on the cover! | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Greg House - CSC/CS | Fri Jun 17 1988 11:28 | 8 |
| Alice had a really good band, back then (pretty good now). I think
the band never got the attention they deserved. They always had
a good guitar sound.
re:.37 Pete, if you want songs with variety, that one has a bunch,
just within itself...
gh
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86.39 | Steve Hunter - Alice's axeman | HAZEL::STARR | You grow up and you calm down | Fri Jun 17 1988 11:32 | 8 |
| Steve Hunter on guitar for Alice was great. Especially check out
the live LP 'The Alice Cooper Show'. Another place Steve Hunter
really shined was the intro to Lou Reed's "Sweet Jane" from
the live LP 'Rock and Roll Animal". Great guitar work!
Where is he now?
cat
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86.40 | "Are You Ready" | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Opinion Set Hidden | Fri Jun 17 1988 11:34 | 10 |
| Anybody out there ever get into (come on, admit it) Grand Funk
Railroad ? When I started playing music it was on drums and TNUC
was a favorite tune (backmasking wasn't heard of then ....). The
entire live album cooked, and "Mean Mistreater" was enough to make
you want to cry. I didn't listen to them too much after Craig Frost
was officially added, some of you probably know why.
Mr Scary II
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86.41 | under my wheels has a great intro. | BUSY::JMINVILLE | down at the Spanish Moon | Fri Jun 17 1988 12:22 | 12 |
| Alice's first couple of albums were really awesome!! I LOVE 'Halo
of Flies' and, yes prc, I think we could attempt it. What was the
the first album, 'Love It To Death'? There was a very strange tune
on it called, 'The Ballad of Dwight Frye', "mommy, where's daddy?
He's been gone such a long time. Do you think he'll ever come home?"
The guitars MADE that band for me.
Re: -.40 Grand Funk Railroad! I used to like that song 'Paranoid',
you know the one that started out with a siren. They were real
popular around '70 or '71.
joe.
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86.44 | Cold Ethel | ATEAM::BUTKUS | The Louder The Better The Metal | Fri Jun 17 1988 12:29 | 8 |
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Alice's first albums are Pretties For You and Easy Action
produced by Frank Zappa,these albums were not up to par
he didn't use the makeup either.
M
B
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86.46 | whhhhhhhsh | ATEAM::BUTKUS | The Louder The Better The Metal | Fri Jun 17 1988 13:09 | 7 |
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Toooooooooooo! fast for me Pete.
M
B
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86.47 | YEP, THEM TOO! | COMET::FERRISM | | Fri Jun 17 1988 16:11 | 5 |
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Good old Grand Funk
I especially like their covers of "Inside Looking Out" and
"Gimmie shelter"
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86.48 | Golden moments. | RAVEN1::KROBINSON | | Thu Jun 30 1988 15:21 | 10 |
| What about Argent, Free, Egar Winter, Ronnie Montrose, or even further
back Chuck Berry, Fats Domino, Elvis Presley, or even further back
like from the big band era wasn't there a drum that kicked as* named
Gene Kruppa or something like that. HM seems like a style that has
just naturally evolved into what it is today.
KER of digital
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86.49 | SWING ERA = HEAVY METAL? | COMET::FERRISM | | Fri Jul 01 1988 08:29 | 7 |
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RE. 48
You are correct about Gene Kruppa (sp?). And as a matter of fact
I believe he was the first drummer to introduce double bass drumming
techniques.
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86.50 | Benny... | BUSY::JMINVILLE | Arthur Dent in another dimension | Wed Jul 06 1988 15:27 | 11 |
| RE .48 & .49
Gene Krupa (sp?) was also one of the first musicians of renown to
have a drug problem. I think it was while he was playing with the
Benny Goodman band in the 1930's that he got seriously involved
with some drug(s) -- marijuana, heroin, cocaine, or all three.
This became highly publicized and caused him to lose a lot of jobs,
because band leaders didn't want to be associated with "a druggie".
He later straightened out, but I don't know any more about the guy.
He was a radical drummer in his day.
joe.
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86.51 | OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MISSISSIPPI QUEEN | COMET::FERRISM | | Thu Sep 22 1988 15:36 | 11 |
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Had to get back to this topic after listening to something
last night. Anyone out there remember Mountain? The classic
Mississippi Queen is an early cranker. If you ever listen to
the album "Flowers of Evil" there is a guitar solo by Leslie
West before Mississippi Queen that reeks of afterburn from at
least a dozen Marshalls. An influence without a doubt!!! I saw
West, Bruce and Lang years ago after Mountain, I can only say
that fat man can tear up a guitar!
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86.52 | 1st! | RAVEN1::B_ADAMS | | Thu Jun 01 1989 22:53 | 10 |
| Let's see....
Who had the most influence on all the bands that
followed them?
The B E A T L E S ...
B.A.
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86.53 | | ICS::BUCKLEY | Marshallvergnugen! | Thu Jun 21 1990 17:27 | 2 |
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Your Mother!
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86.54 | | BTOVT::BAGDY_M | E=mc� - the formula for beer bubbles ! | Fri Jun 22 1990 07:20 | 12 |
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| Your Mother!
Exactly ! I can remember day of practicing when me mum used
ta' grab my hair (thank God it was short then) and slam my
head against the wall a couple times while yelling `PRACTICE
YOUR SCALES OR IT'S INTO THE DISCO PIT !'
That was enough to make ANYONE practice ! YIKES !
METALord"�
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86.55 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Naaa... We can't let Steve drive! | Fri Jun 22 1990 08:40 | 10 |
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On a serious note, I got a lecture from my father last night coz
my 4 hours an evening of practising has gone down to 2 and a half
hours, cos I've been seeing this girl quite a bit.
I don't believe it - he is actually supportive of my guitar
playing for once!
-Tony (who thinks that two and a half hours a night + band practises
is still enough to get my chops in order).
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86.56 | MY dad made me play the CLARINET!!! | BINKLY::MINARDI | Rebel without a pause | Fri Jun 22 1990 10:58 | 3 |
| Dude, you have to take care of your hormones, Dad'll understand.
8^)
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86.57 | One man's opinion on life... | ICS::BUCKLEY | Marshallvergnugen! | Fri Jun 22 1990 11:16 | 20 |
| -1 & -2
I disagree to some extent.
I had this student...15 years old...he was an AWESOME
guitarist...fast...super-fast, with good ideas, and a good head on his
shoulder! Now, he got a BAD case of the hormones (His brain moved to
his d***), and QUIT the guitar cuz he didn't have enuff time for his
girlfriend...I mean, like sold EVERYTHING...
What a waste...there should be time for both.
I mean, do you think Yngwie had a girlfriend as a teenager? No way!
Not with practicing 16 hours a day! He waited, now he's got all the
chicks he wants!
B.
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86.58 | OK so I'm bored...leave me alone.. :) | KIDVAX::CESCOBAR | Blackened Is The End | Thu Dec 26 1991 16:05 | 13 |
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I think Metallica has had a gigantic impact on the HM scene. In '81
they were sort of unique, now look. A thousand and one thrash/speed
metal bands.
Christ
!
-+-
!
!
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86.59 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | | Thu Dec 26 1991 16:07 | 4 |
| Metallica hasn't made as much of an impact (overall) as Kiss did.
so THAIR!
8^P
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86.60 | 8*) IMO | POWDML::GOLDBERG | thunderhead | Fri Dec 27 1991 10:39 | 8 |
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Which didn't make as much of an impact (overall) as Black Sabbath!!
8*P
Goddess F.
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86.61 | | KURMA::IGOLDIE | | Fri Dec 27 1991 15:44 | 6 |
| re-1
agreed and also Led Zepplin too,highly influential
Staynz
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86.62 | | KDX200::COOPER | Step UP to the RACK ! | Fri Dec 27 1991 16:01 | 1 |
| Priest roolz.
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86.63 | JP-Truly Unique!! | SALEM::STIG | | Fri Aug 13 1993 09:50 | 8 |
| Judas Priest definately paved the way. In those days the HR scene was
the in until JP came in and took everybody by storm. With Rob Halfords
voice and Tipton and Downings guitars and there massive studio sound
(Hell Bent for Leather) album there was no one quite like this HM
music. Truly unique during this era...
stig
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86.64 | | METALX::SWANSON | HerEyesWereSoft&BlueHerEyesWereClear&BrightButShe'sNotThere | Fri Aug 13 1993 13:31 | 8 |
| Dey was Awesome!!!
And Rob Halford's got a voice that nobody else can immitate! Not too
many singers are like that. Dio is one though.
|KS|
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86.65 | | SALEM::SCALZO | All the worlds a stage | Fri Aug 13 1993 14:26 | 2 |
| While at a party last weekend, someone put on JP Rocka Rolla...
Hadn't heard that in years.... excellant!
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86.66 | Heh... heheh...heheheh....heh.... | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | DOS Boot | Fri Aug 13 1993 16:09 | 1 |
| How many suicides were there at the party?
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86.67 | | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Better to reign in hell... | Mon Aug 16 1993 09:24 | 12 |
| Bruce Dickenson hosted a history of British Heavy Metal radio show
in the UK last Saturday. The first part dwelled on the 70's in
particular and most of the names you'd expect were mentioned
including Priest.
No mention of UFO however which I took very badly. I mean how can
you pay tribute to a bunch of slappers from the West Midlands
wearing heavy duty S&M gear and not even mention a band who shifted
greater amounts of records and concert tickets in the mid to late
70's than Priest. Upset? Just a wee bit.
barry.
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86.68 | ....and Ozzy was drunk(no change there) 8) | KURMA::IGOLDIE | Les fears the chives...! | Mon Aug 16 1993 09:55 | 10 |
| I heard that and thought it odd that they missed out stuff like
Nazareth,although not truely heavy metal but their was Sweet and they
got a mention.It seemed to be more of a show that Bruce Dickinson
should have called "my favourite hm bands from the Midlands".
Funny part was when he said he was scaring some old lady to bits by
practicing his "child in time" scream at the bus stop when they both
were waiting for the last bus.
ian
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86.69 | | SUBURB::COOKS | I`m so bored with the U.S.A | Tue Aug 17 1993 13:30 | 3 |
| ...I was just listening to "No place to run" the other day. Excellent
album.
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86.70 | Aaaahh-aaahhhh-aaaahhhhh-aahhhhhhhhhhhh | METALX::SWANSON | frustrated myths | Tue Aug 17 1993 13:32 | 8 |
| > Funny part was when he said he was scaring some old lady to bits by
> practicing his "child in time" scream at the bus stop when they both
> were waiting for the last bus.
Would that be Bruce Dickinson practicing Ian Gillan's Child In Time
scream?
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86.71 | | KURMA::IGOLDIE | Les fears the chives...! | Tue Aug 17 1993 14:05 | 7 |
| no it was the old lady.....she took out her teeth and belted out while
Bruce stood there watching!!! ;^)
ian
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86.72 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | I think I am, therefore...? | Tue Aug 17 1993 16:03 | 1 |
| She was simply trying to frighten him back into the tar pits.
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