Conference napalm::guitar

    I do this all the time. My faves..not in order
    
    Johnny Winter (anything)
    Dire Straits - 1st Album & Communique
    Cream - Disraeli Gears
    Jeff Beck - Beckola
    Stones - Let It Bleed
    
    I can go on and on. But..I got a new band and it's working out real
    good so the stereo jamming has gone to the back of the line.
    
    
    
    Steve
    TBay
                  
    

    
    Ventures - Play Along With The Ventures
    
    John Lennon - Two Virgins
    
    An Evening With Wild Man Fischer
    
    Anthony Braxton - For Alto
    
    						Thurston

    Good Rats - "Tasty" and "Rats to Richs"
    Blackfoot - "Flyin' High", "No Reservations"
    Billy Cobham - "Spectrum"
    Bad Company - anything
    Mott the Hoople - anything
    SRV - lots of things

    I like this idea for a topic; there ARE albums that just seem made for
    playin along with.
    
    Was doing this one just last night:
    
    	Derek and the Dominoes Live (the newly re-issued one with extra
         tracks)
    
    /slowfoot
    

    At various points in the past I have enjoyed playing along with:
    
    Hendrix - Band of Gypsies
    Ramones - Ramonesmania
    CCR - Best of..
    Devo - Are We Not Men
    Rolling Stones - some early best of compilation
    
    many others...

        Sesame Street Live - the Sesame Street Players
        
        Toughie: "C is for Cookie" - needed a capo at the 5th and 21st frets!
        
        C. Monster
        
        

    Southern Steel - Steve Morse

    C'mon Mike, can't you play anything even remotely difficult?

    Cinammon Girl - Neil Young

Probably anything by Jimmy McGriff.

   My band's demo tape.

   -- Sam

Hmmm...  I like to Jam with anything by Judas Priest, and anything
by Tesla...  And a couple of select Queensryche toons.

    
    
             Ditto on the Queensryche tunes! If you want to go crazy just
      do Mind Crime. Anything by Testament or Satch is good too.
    
    
                                   Jeffy

    this is so predictable....everyone's replies could have been written by
    their buddies.........
    
    You guys would never have guessed, but I like to jam along with:
    
    All of EC's stuff from Cream to Derek & the Doms
    
    SRV
    
    Bad Company
    
    Allmans
    
    Eagles
    
    Doobies
    
    Lynyardy Synyardy
    
    Warren Haynes
    
    

    
    Here's a few of mine:
    
    1/ B.B. King - "Live At The Regal"
    2/ Dire Straits - "1st" & "Making Movies"
    3/ John Mayall w/Eric Clapton Bluesbreakers
    4/ Allmon Bros. - "Live At Filmore"
    5/ Eric Clapton - "Money & Cigarettes" & "Derek & The Dominoes "
    6/ CCR - "Best Of"
    7/ Stones - "Exile On Main Street", "Sticky Fingers", "Goat Heads Soup"
    

    
    Yngwie Malmsteen albums!
    
    1) Steeler
    2) Alcatrazz - No Parole
    3) Rising Force!

    Machine Head!
    
    "you're lazy, you just stay in bed"

    Sabbath, dude. I put .008's on and tune down 3 half-steps.
    
    Also, fer real, Just One Night by EC is my favorite jamming album.

    Re: .19
    
    Yo, Dave...just spotted at Apple Country Market at the bottom of the
    hill below HLO2....
    
    
    A Sabbath *comic book* scripted by Geezer hisself!  
    
    Seriously...couldn't quite bring myself to spring the $3.95 for it,
    tho.  
    
    Waiting for Mahvishnu meets Dr. Octopus.... 

    Hey Rosty, you know you're old when you can't justify 4 clams for a Sab
    comic book!
    

Wow, Sabbath,, Machine head... brings back teen-age memories...

some vynil I wore out as a spry lad...

Boston (1st album)
Beck, (Blow-by-blow)
Areosmithy (get yer wigs)
Deep Purple (all of em..  was a blackmore freak)
Hendrix, (Just buy one, then buy another one, then buy another one..)
Sabbath, (Oh yea, like all of them too.  Mom hated Sabbath!....)

some Cd's I would a wore out recently if they was still vynil...

Gary Moore (Still got the blues)
Larry Carlton (on Solid Ground)
A bunch of Steeley Dan (Thanks to Cote!)
	- actually I found "a Decade of Steeley Dan" covered a lot of
	  ground..

    Actually one of the best albums I've come across for this is something
    called "Deep Forest". It has some nice grooves on it. You can play all
    over and around them. (It's also great to just listen to.)

    re .20
    
    I'm there, dude

    "Deep Forest"?  Is that some sort of field recording of pygmy chants
    overdubbed with new agey/world music backing? (at least, that's how I
    recall it described)
    

    RE: Deep Forest

    Sort of. New agey? No. World music? Mmmmmaybe.

    This guy (whose name I don't recall) built these cool rhythm grooves
    around vocal phrases that he lifted off some Ethnic Sounds series CD
    ROM. I mean he actually turned out real "songs" this way, not just
    chants and rhythm loops. It's great stuff for layering guitar licks
    onto. It's a lot of fun to just listen to also.

    Being somewhat familiar with the process for going about assembling such
    compositions, I can barely fathom the amount of work that went into this
    album. I was highly skeptical when my wife showed me what she bought.
    She was in a record store shopping for classical CDs and heard it
    playing and loved it.

    I don't think that I can adequately describe it here. I don't know what
    to compare it to.

    --Ron

    Hmmm, I saw this last week and decided to pass on checking it out, but
    if *you* like it then perhaps I'll reconsider...
    

>    if *you* like it then perhaps I'll reconsider...

    Well \rick, it ain't like ANYTHING else in my album collection. (BTW, I
    hate "new age", if that makes a difference. Yanni makes me yawny.)

    
    
    my favs to beat my bass...
    
    Any Steely Dan (I got most of the charts, helps to keep up sight-reading)
    
    Any Larry Carlton
    
    Jeff Beck "Blow by Blow" and "Wired" (licks to live by!!)
    
    /Billy_K
    

    >  Any Larry Carlton
    
    I echo that, but particularly "Room 335".
    
    Another great album to jam to is "Spectrum" by Billy Cobham.
    
    First, it has some AWESOME playing by the late Tommy Bolin on it (by
    FAR his best IMHO).  Second the guitar is panned hard to one side
    so you can pan it to the other side and just jam to the backing tracks
    which are HOT!
    
    I love the SOUND of his guitar on this one too.   Moreso than any other
    album I've heard, this makes your stereo speaker sound as if it was
    the guitar amp.   You can almost imagine Bolin in the room with a cord
    running to your speaker.
    
    Other great bands to jam to:  Blackfoot and the Good Rats

    Re Tommy Bolin: I always liked his tone too and I remember once reading
    him describe how he got it.  The main ingredients: vintage Strat, bass
    control on the amp turned all the way up.
    

    But Rick, what about those Explorers I saw in pics of Bolin?  Maybe
    those were only for slide.
    
    							Brian

    	Tommy Bolin really was a great guitarist-- a "player's player", I
    think. And one of the great "hired gun" guitarists of the '70's; he
    played on a wide variety of albums and was able to sound great at
    them all.

    	The Billy Cobham record was definitely a highlight. I liked his
    first solo LP "Teasin'" alot, although there were a few uninspiring
    tracks. 

    	On the other hand, there's an import album recorded with Deep
    Purple, "Live In Japan" I think, which was recorded during the
    height of his heroin addiction... the story goes something like
    he scored some bad heroin while on tour and it really messed up his
    arm for a while. This recording is from a gig at that time and his
    playing on it is atrocious.
    
    	Glen Hughes, fellow Deep Purple member and good friend of Tommy's,
    is also a favorite of mine... loved his vocals. His album with Pat
    Thrall (called "Hughes/Thrall", oddly enough) is a great rock LP.
    
    
    Brad
    (thinking alot about the damage heroin has done
    after watching "Turning Point" last night.)
    

    The "Made In Japan" CD (double live album) just has Ritchie Blackmore
    playing guitar on it. The guitar playing (as well as the band's
    playing) is really quite good. Tommy Bolin didn't play on this one,
    he wasn't mentioned in the liner notes. It's kind of strange what
    heroin did to various artists. The Stones seemed to put out there 
    best CD's (Sticky Fingers, Goat Head's Soup) while Keith Richards
    was heavy into heroin. I think Keith has cut back and is just into
    booze and cigarettes these days. 
    
    Keep On pickin' and grinnin'
    
    

    He's not talking about "Made In Japan" (a classic).  I think the one he
    means is "Live in Tokyo" or something, done several years later.
    
    gh

    
    	That's right, the live Deep Purple album I was referring to was
    not "Made In Japan", it was a more obscure import LP-- "Live In Tokyo"
    could be the correct title, I still haven't gotten around to digging
    out the LP at home.
    
    	I think "Made in Japan" features both Richie's best playing and
    Ian Gillan's best singing. "Live In Tokyo" is a whole other story...
    
    
    Brad
    

    Re: .33
    
    What is your data on Bolin's heroin use? I recall at the time of his
    death there was no such talk, he died from taking some sleeping pills
    after drinking all night.  
    
    							Brian

    
      Last few:  After hearing Bolin's "Teaser" album, which I liked alot, 
      I paid a little attention to the info surrounding his death.  Along
      with what Brian said, booze and sleeping pills, there was also a 
      small pharmacy stock residing in his belly that night.  Basically
      the guy partied himself to death.  Play & pay.
    
      Rick.  
    

    I read with great interest the replies to this note but I have always
    been puzzled why many of my favorite albums seem to change tune
    between tracks.
    
    With the exception of 1 or 2 Eric Clapton records, namely - Money and
    Cigs. and Survivor, most of my classic rock and blues records vary
    slightly between tracks requiring all sharp or all flat adjustments to each
    string. 
    
    I've got a quality hi-fi - does anyone else have these problems and if
    so what Albums would you recommend, or is it my hi-fi ?
                                                           

    One of my favorite albums to jam along to is "Spectrum" by Billy Cobham
    with (the late) Tommy Bolin on guitar.
    
    The tunes are basically long jams and the guitar is panned all the way
    to one side so if your turn the balance knob the other direction you
    get a world-class band to jam along with.
    
    And the tunes on it are really HOT!  It's mostly jazz artists, but
    IMHO that album definitely rocks.
    
    	db

    re: .39
    Yeah, I've had this problem too, especially with older records (i.e.
    records recorded 20-30 years ago). I put it down to approximate tuning
    equipment, or even minor importance attached to the whole question of
    tuning to concert pitch.
    
    Sure is infuriating though!
    
    Dom  

    re: .39, .41
    
    Some records have the speed tweaked on purpose.  It used to be common
    to bump up the speed on singles to make them more "danceable".  A good
    example can be found on the James Brown "Star Time" box; the full
    version of "Papa's Got a Brand New Bag" is considerably slower than the
    single version (both are included).
    
    								Brian

    tuning to albums was always abother until I finally invested in a pitch
    controlled turntable. That's invaluable now. I think some of the
    problem as was pointed out might have been players simply taking
    whatever guitar wasclosest in tune and tuning everything to that. Also
    the recording process invovled a lot of steps that could have acounted
    for drift (one tape machine to the mastering machine to whatever other
    steps might have been invovled). I know playing along with my who
    albums alwaysrequired pitch adjusting the turntable. HMMMMMmmmm.
    I wonder if the really noticable pitch variations have been transferred
    to cd. Of course jimi Hendrix as well as a lot of modern day players
    tuned to eb to save a little on vocals.
    
    If i really want to jam with something or have to learn it, I copy it
    to tape and use my Ibenez RP100 which has a pitch control and little
    mixer built in. pretty nifty for doing hard rock jamming and homework
    at 11:30pm when the rest of the house is asleep!!
    
    						---Fred
    

    re: last few, pitch control
    
    Do these turntables and cassette players with pitch control do their
    thing by varying the speed of the drive, or by some electronic means?
    
    Aside from that, in a related area, it would be nice to have a
    cassette deck where I could adjust the actual speed over a fairly
    wide range (say, 2X).  I've got some old reel-to-reel tapes from
    the mid 60's that were recorded on a cheapo direct-drive recorder
    where the recording speed was, uh, "proportional" to the battery
    voltage, which was usually decreasing.  If I could copy them to
    cassette and then use such a variable-speed deck, it'd be great
    to hear some of those again.  Anyone ever hear of such a beastie?
    
    Chris

    Yes, the ones I've seen adjust the pitch by changing the speed of the
    drive.  I haven't seen any with a real wide range though, usually just
    goes a few steps.
    
    Greg

   I believe one of the "session trainer"/practice amp/headphone amp things
   has a full � speed reduction.  The name Ampeg comes to mind, but I could
   be way off.  Check a recent Musician's Friend catalog, or similar, and you
   may find what you're looking for.

   -- Sam
   

    >I believe one of the "session trainer"/practice amp/headphone amp things
    >has a full � speed reduction.
    
    However, as far as I know it is not variable. A switch selects full or
    1/2 speed, with nothing in between.
    
    On the other hand, several dubs between two cassette decks with
    variable speed could achieve any desired pitch ratio, even if
    you can only go plus or minus 10 (or 15) % at a time.
    
    Be forwarned though that halfing the speed drops everything by
    a full octave and makes the song twice as long. For the purpose
    stated (restoring off-speed recordings) this should not be a
    problem... but if anyone is considering buying one of these
    things because it will make it easier to learn songs; well,
    there's a significant trade-off involved. Especially if you
    happen to be a bass player. You start geting down to where
    you can't discern the pitch of notes... it's just a bunch
    of low frequency crud.
    
    Brian

    "Donny & Marie's Greatest Hits" as performed by Steve Morse

    > "Donny & Marie's Greatest Hits" as performed by Steve Morse
    
    Yes, this proves that Morse can make ANYTHING sound good.

    forgot to mention that this is for drummers.

   Wouldn't it be better to cover Karen Carpenter's music instead, then?

   -- Sam
   

   >Wouldn't it be better to cover Karen Carpenter's music instead, then?
    
    Music to starve by??

    Mike's still reeling from Deep Purple replacing Satriani with Morse.

    It shows Morse is fed up with playing for no $$ in small clubs like
    Rhythms all his life.  He wants what all the great players have.

    Ah, Mikey... you just insist on throwing stones from inside your glass
    house without even opening the window.
    
    I mean it's one thing to tour with Deep Purple (Morse is the only
    guitarist on the planet good enough to be described as "having his
    talent wasted being with Deep Purple").
    
    But if you look up "selling out" in the dictionary, it will tell you
    that selling out is defined by touring with Mick Jagger, which
    Satriani did before his doomed stint with Deep Purple.
    
    I mean... Mick Jagger... Mike.  Mick Jagger!   Remember him Mike?
    
    He's the guy who convinced the Stones to try disco when it was
    popular!!! 
    
    	db

>    I mean it's one thing to tour with Deep Purple (Morse is the only
>    guitarist on the planet good enough to be described as "having his
>    talent wasted being with Deep Purple").
    
    Given that Deep Purple have done basically nothing in the last 10
    years, and most of their memorable material was done 10 years before
    that, I'd say that most guitarists capable of playing the material
    would be wasting their talant playing those same old songs time and
    time again with them.
    
    Greg

    
    	re: .55, db - er, let's see now.  Just who was the slug that
    	Satch replaced on that Jagger tour?  
    
    	Some no talent slug, for sure.  Had to have been.
    
    	Anyone remember...
    
    

    > re: .55, db - er, let's see now.  Just who was the slug that
    >  Satch replaced on that Jagger tour?
    
    Pat Martino?
    
    ;-)

    re: pitch control cassette players
    
    Thanks for the info, several replies back there.  I think I've found
    something pretty close to what I'm looking for, in the Summer/Fall
    Musician's Friend catalog.  It's an Ibanez tape player with pitch
    control, with lots of other goodies (you can plug your guitar into
    it and even add distortion and chorus, if I recall), not bad for
    $130.  If I need to, I can make repeated slowdown/speedup dubs as
    one of the replies suggested, as well.
    
    Thanks,
    Chris

    db, Satch toured with Jagger way back before the "Surfin'..." album
    came out.
    
    I'll give you this much: nobody could play "Smoke on the Water" quite
    like Morse.  BTW - where are you going since you're gonna miss me?
    
    Mike

    > db, Satch toured with Jagger way back before the "Surfin'..." album
    > came out.
    
    I think you've got your facts wrong.  I'm pretty sure he toured with
    Jagger recently.
    
    	db

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   >	  BTW - where are you going since you're gonna miss me?
    
   Somewhere else, hopefully.

   -- Sam
   

    If he did, then he's done it twice.

Geez, guys!  Enough already!  I feel like I'm back in sixth grade! 

-Hal

    > I feel like I'm back in sixth grade!
    
    HE STARTED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    
    DID NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!