Conference 7.286::sports_91

    Rangers beat the Flames last night 6-4 at THE Garden.  Turcotte,
    Gilhen, Gartner, Broten, Nemchinov and Graves did the scoring.  Richter
    was the Goalie.
    
    JD

    Go Whales !!!   
    
    

    	The StRangers will win the Patrick Division then choke in the
    first round against the DEBILS.
    
    				/Don

    The Rangers are my favorite team from the Patrick Division.  My ideal 
    Conference finals would be The Broons against the Rangers, with the
    winner to play the Black Hawks (who have the finest uniforms in all of
    sports).
    
    Mark.

    JD,
    
    Did you HAVE to bring up these painful memories right before the
    weekend :-(
    
    Remember the days before everyone had cable? I can still remember
    sneaking a little radio into bed at night and listening to Marv Albert
    and the Big Whistle describing the Ranger games. The blowouts of the
    California Golden Seals, the pain of Bobby Hull's 3rd period goal in
    game 7 of the semis to beat the Rangers 3-2 (4-2 with the ope net
    goal). Brad Park never winning the Norris trophy because a young Park
    had Bobby Orr to compete against, an older Park (on Boston) a guy named
    Potvin to compete against. The GAG line and that horrendous evening
    when Ratelle broke his leg costing the GAG line the chance to shatter
    all scoring records by a line, and then lsoing in the finals to Boston
    4-2, but with a great comeback in game 5 at Boston. Hadfield getting
    his 50th goal on the last day of the season against the Canadiens.
    
    The of cours the marvelous winter of 1979. Rangers beating the hated
    Islanders 4 games to 2. Rangers beating Montreal in game 12 of the
    finals, and leading 2-0 in game 2 before succumbing in 5 games. I was
    overseas at the time and managed to catch it on shortwave radio from
    Germany where Armed >Forces radio was broadcasting it (I was in Israel
    for a while at the time). Davidson phenomenal in goal.
    
    The 1986 team that could have beaten Montreal in the semis but didn't.
    
    But maybe with a guy who knows how to win aka Messier, with Adam
    Graves, a healthy goaltending squad and no incredibly dominating team
    in the NHL this year it could happen. Be nice to get those Islander
    fans who keep chanting 1940 over and over and over again.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    re: .4
    
    Dream on, no one in the Bruins division will get by the Canadiens in
    the playoffs this year.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    re: .7 don;t remember that moment, care to elaborate.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    TCM -
    
    Yes, my father and I used to huddle in front of a transistor in our
    kitchen and listen to Marv and the Big Whistle do the games.  Fond
    memories indeed.  
    
    And 79.  A great year - but a numbing loss in the finals.  JD in net,
    Ulf Nilseen and the boys.   Oh well.
    
    Mark - you are almost there my friend.  
    
    JD

    RE: .8
    	First game, first round of the 1970 Stanley Cup Playoffs. Bill 
Speer, goon extrodinaire hits every Ranger that gets on the ice, some of 
them twice.  The guy couldn't skate, stickhandle or shoot, but he could 
HIT!  My second favorite Ranger moment involves Mike Milbury, Peter McNab, 
Terry O'Riley and a shoe.

				/Don

    Didn't Turk get pulled over the glass by the fans while in the penalty 
    box at Madison Square Garden?
    
    Ahhh, the good old days when men were men and hockey was hockey.
    
    Mark.

>    Didn't Turk get pulled over the glass by the fans while in the penalty 
>    box at Madison Square Garden?
        
    thought that was his chicken throwing friends in St Louie...

 mike

    Who was it that broke Esposito's hip with a vicious but legal check in
    one of the Ranger/Bruin playoff sereis in the early 1970's (1973 I
    believe). Rangers won that series.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    
    RE:-1
    ..........It was Ron (the leg) Harris....
    ..........Don't think it broke Espos hip though..(?)
    
    Melster
    

    I have been on rangers bandwagon since i joined the whalers bandwagon,
    
    maybe a little after whales, canadians rule this year, but whalers
    
    can make up for all these close lossed to broons with a nice
    
    elimination in playoffs
    
    dinz
    

    
    Who asked you Dinsmore?
    
    Whalers sip
    
    Rangers bite
    
    
    Steve

�< Note 234.14 by AKOCOA::PETERSON >
    
�    RE:-1
�    ..........It was Ron (the leg) Harris....
�    ..........Don't think it broke Espos hip though..(?)
    
	I remember a knee injury Espo had around that time, that
I think required surgery.  But I don't remember him ever having a 
broken hip.

Chap

    
    Right Chap,....I think it did break his leg. (I was responding to (.13).
    
    Mel
    

    The Big Whistle!!
    I'd forgotten about that maroon. Bill Chadwick, I believe. Another
    homer Noo Yawka that never should have had a mike in front of him.
    Of course we Broon fans never had a homer in them days ( remember
    old Cooney Weiland? They had to wake him up to do the commentary.
    Old Pat "Boxcar" Egan took the cake. Simpleton).
    
    Great rivalry with the Rangers in the early 70's. I watched Game 6
    of the'72 finals away at school wif a bunch of Ranger fans. Man were
    they PO'd when Orr took over the game and the Broons paraded the Cup
    around Madison Sq. Ha Ha!!. Of course I gave them the "Bill Russell-to-
    Doris Day line", "Not this year, boys!!" 
    How 'bout the NY organist playing "Don't talk to the Animals" when the
    Broons took the ice in Madison Sq in '70, and the signs " Sanderson is
    a Hairy Fairy" Too much.
    
    I remember Brad Park published a book in the early '70's with one
    chapter lambasting the 'Big Bad Bruins'. Phil Esposito's classic
    retort, " Well just remember, Park spelled backwards is Krap!"
    
    Ah the memories. As far as '79 goes,remember Ranger fans, that the
    second best team in the NHL that year lost to the Habs in the semis
    in SEVEN (OT). 8^)
    
    MikeL
      

    	Speaking of '73, after the Rangers eliminated the Broons all
    the players snuck Espo out of the hospital (bed and all) and wheeled
    him down to the nearest bar for a goodbye drink.  Those were the
    days.
    
    				/Don

    re: .19
    
    Boy a Boston fan talking about announcers that are homers. Seems to me
    a guy named Most is the biggest homer to ever broadcast.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    My point exactly CM,
    Reread my first paragraph, implicationbeing=we'vehadplentyofthem.
    
    Slasher,
    That bar was the Branding Iron, I believe. Right across the street
    from MGH at Charles River Park. Believe Bobby Orr was a co-owner.
    
    Speaking of announcers, does anyone remember the guy who used to
    conduct the interviews in-between periods during the nationally-
    televised(in U.S.) Sunday PM games, oh around the late 60's,early
    70's? The guy simply had no clue. Looked like he belonged on the
    Regis-Kathie Lee show, not a hockey telecast.
    
    MikeL
      

>                         -< RE: MikeL - Ted Lindsey? >-

Ted looked older than lEe at that point.  I guess all those hockey games
and scars musta taken their toll, eh?


'Saw    

    Slash,
    Nah, Ted lindsay knew hockey. This guy was simply simple as far as
    hockey. I remember Jim Gordon ( Jints announcer??) on the telecasts
    occasionally but this guy only handled interviews. The first name of
    Bill comes to mind, but that's it.
    
    MikeL
    

    Bill Mazer (or Maser).  Has written many books on sports trivia.  New
    York area sportscaster.  No hockey background.
    
    CBS had Dan Kelly, Jim Gordon and Bill Mazer.  Stan Fischler may or may
    not have been there.  NBC was Tim Ryan and Ted Lindsay, and probably
    one or two others (not including Peter Puck).
    
    John

    Yes Ninj!!
    
    Bill Mazur. Danke
    
    MikeL
    

Dan Kelly and Jim Gordon...

Oh, how I'd love it when someone would score, and Gordon (I think) would
yell "He shoots - He SCORES", but in the middle of SCORES the mike would
cut out from the volume of his voice, so it would sound likes


	He shoots -- HE SCO      RES.....


Great memories....


'Saw

    He shoots - HE SCORES was a Dan Kelly trademark.  Kelly did
    play-by-play and Gordon did color.
    
    John

>    He shoots - HE SCORES was a Dan Kelly trademark.  Kelly did
>    play-by-play and Gordon did color.
    
Like betting on the SB Coin Toss, I had an even chance and lost 8^)

One of these fellows passed away a few years back, didn't he?


'Saw

    Dan Kelly.  He was the voice of the St Louis Blues and died during one
    of the recent seasons.  The Blues wore a commemorative patch with DK
    inside a shamrock in his memory.
    
    Jim Gordon is, I believe, the radio voice of the NY Giants.
    
    John

    Marv Albert did a pretty good he shoots HE SCORES thing as well.
    I catch WFAN in Boston and it is still a real treat when he does an
    occasional Knick or Ranger game.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    Always liked Marv...  What is the name of those awards he gives
    out at the end of the month ?  You know the one with the great plays
    and the bloopers...  Kinda like the Warnner Wolf stuff.
    
    BG

    Albert Achievement Awards

    I also liked Marv, just disliked the teams he announced.
    
    BTW, speaking of Jim Gordon, now radio voice of the Giants, did he not
    also do the play by play for the Rangers on WOR with Chadwick(ugh)
    the color man? Around the late 70's?
    At the same time Tim Ryan (on 'WOR or 'PIX) did the Islanders play-by
    play with Eddie Westfall or George Whatever(?) on color. N'est-ce-pas?
    
    MikeL
    

    Fratello put ole Marv in his place during the Bulls-Pistons game on
    Sunday.  

    Thanks...  AAA...  that was it !!
    
    BG

    re: .36
    
    Yeah and Marv really did deserve it, he was really pushing the limit
    even for him.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    Anyone have the score for last nights game between the Rangers and the
    Sharks??
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    In the Herald and Globo, TCM
    
    Lone Rangers 5, Toofless Sharks 2
    
    MikeL
    

	Yes! A Ranger Note in SPORTS. Many was the night when I too would
listed to Albert and Chadwick describe the action. Stemkowksi/Tzaczuk/Irvine
line was a favorite of mine. Sad day when Giacomin donned a Red Wing uniform,
and the Garden fans shouted Eddie! Eddie! as he stoned the Rangers in his
triumphant return the the Garden.

	Messier has kept everyone focused, and that is no mean feat for a
Ranger team. Richter is just now rounding into form. They will be tougher
in the playoffs thsi year, no doubt.

	How 'bout them  RANGERS!

	Jim  M

	Eddie Anvilhaid had Stan Fischler as a guest on last night.  Stan 
said this would be the year the Rangers get the Cup and provided the 
following scenario.  The players go on strike prior to the playoffs and the 
NHL desparate for cash accepts a 15 million dollar bid from Paramount for 
the Stanley Cup.  8^)  Eddie also said that all hockey fans should have their 
right to vote revoked.

				/Don

    Actually,
    I know Stan was joking, but he's been picking the Rangers to win the
    Stanley Cup every year since Harry Howell last won the Norris Trophy.
    This year the Rangers have a legit shot. Messier's a force.
    
    MikeL
    

    There's probably no one in the world who knows less about hockey than
    Anvilhaid, but Stan Fischler (who last year on Eddie's show predicted
    that the Rangers would finish ten points ahead of the Bruins) comes
    awfully close...
    
    
    py

	Wasn't Fischler the guy who picked some type of "Hockey's All Time
	Greatest Team" that did not include Robert Gordon Orr ?

	I think that speaks volumes on Fischler's alleged hockey knowledge.


Chap

    Rangers lead the league in points. They and the Canadians both have 66
    points in the same number of games, tie breaker is more wins which for
    now has the Rangers in the lead.
    With the luck the Rangers have had Messier could of course get injured.
    Beating Montreal will be very tough even if the Rangers have home ice
    advantage. In the NHL a hot goalie (Dryden in???, Roy in 1986, Smith on
    the Islanders) can single handedly take a team much further than it
    should go. If Roy stays as hot as he has been all season Montreal will
    be very tough to beat unless the other team can limit them to 1-2 goals
    a game.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

	Last night, at LA

	Rangers 4 - Kings 1

	Jim M

    Best road trip I can remember in a long time. Rangers now have 68
    points, Canadians 66 points, both played same number of games. Hope
    they can keep this up in February, March, April, and May.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    Ok,
    
    /Don wants me to ask what the heck the Rangers were doing gooning up
    the Norris Division leading, #5 in the NHL pointswise, all around
    nice guy type (including Probie) Red Wings on Sunday.  Why does Murray
    get a 5 game suspension for not controlling Yves Racine when Racine was
    in the penalty box and not on the bench?   Must be a bunch of heathens.

    	Very good Walt.  We all know that the National Hokey League
    wants the Stanley Cup in New Yawk for marketing purposes and will
    tolerate just about anything from that Messieranic crew.  
    
    				/Don

    Rangers-Wings final!!! Ok, how bout Rangers-Canucks?

    	Sorry Walt, the script calls for a New Yawk/Los Angeles finals
    for better television ratings.
    
    				/Don

    re: .54
    
    television, what television :-)
    
    If the Rangers get to the semis I may knuckle under and get SC for a
    month or 2. ANyway Roy of the Canadians will probably decide who gets
    to the finals. If he is on then Montreal will be tough to beat.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    	New Yawk and Los Angeles will play in the next three Stanley
    Cup Finals so the National Hokey League can convince CBS to give
    them a billion dollars too.  Well maybe only � billion...
    
    				/Don

    Ah, but /Don, you forget the Canucks have that Kitten Natividad as
    their celebrity co-captain... tell me THAT wouldn't get ratings...

    In other words, the NHL will copy what the NBA did to gain prominence.
    Too bad the Rankers don't have a franchise player for it to work.
    
    Mike

    Rangers played a gutsy 3rd period but lost 4-2 to the Devils in the
    Meadowlands. Rangers were down 3-0 in the 3rd, scored 2. With 40
    seconds left, Rangers had 6 skaters on the ice. Messier could not
    handle a pass that would give him a great chance to tie the game.
    Devils got the puck and scored an empty netter. Oh well.
    
    The Cray Met
    

    Brief loss, need to lose once ina  while, tell Wardle i said the DEVILS
    are going down in first  round..
    
    DINZ
    

    
    	KOD speaks!  Devils are going to the Conference Finals!

       Don't pay any attention to dINz, he's walkin' around here with a
    Sharks hat on!
                                         Denny

    	Kinda appropriate for a Yankees fan though Denny.  8^0

    The moment of truth for the Rangers may have come last nioght when the
    Devils came back from a 5-0 deficit to make it 5-4. Then later when the
    Devils scored 27 seconds after the Rangers made it 6-4.
    
    Mike Gartner who has a rep of disappearing in the playoffs is playing
    well, and Adma Graves came throguh with his first 2 playoff goals whne
    the score was 6-5. 
    
    Hopefully the Rangers will finish off NJ in 6 and Pitt will find a way
    to take the Caps to a 7th game, and maybe even win the series. The
    teams that scare me most are Edmonton and Montreal. Montreal because
    they often find some way to win (just ask Bruin fans), Edmonton because
    they have played so well in the playoffs no matter who has been on
    their team. 
    
    Unfortunately with the way the playoffs are set up the toughest thing
    for the Rangers may be getting out of the division.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    Rangers played incredibly well in parts of game 6, but not well enough
    over all and lost 5-3. Devils got the 5th goal with abotu 6 minutes
    left in the 3rd. Terreri was sharp end of second/third period.
    
    Well it is off to DECUS and a crazy weekend schedule so it is quite
    likely I won't be noting a whole lot until Sunday afternoon. If eating
    crow is required I will do so first chance I get; I'll probably more
    stunned than anything.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    Ranger beat Pens 4-2 to even the series up, game 3 in Pitt on Thursday
    night. Messier did not play, back spasms.
    
    Go Rangers!
    

    
    ..RE: 234.6
                  "Dream on, no one in the Bruins division will get by
                   the Canadiens in the playoffs this year."
    
                   The Crazy Met
    
    
    ...So, how do you like your crow served anyway?......8-)!
    
    ...Mel
                  

    	I wonder if JD will say the Canadiens choked (they used to be
    his second fav team before the Broons� started beating them with
    regularity)?
    
    				/Don

    Hmm, I forgot about the note reposted in .67. Guilty as charged, mia
    culpa, yup ya got me there. I'll take my crow sauted with onions, aside
    order of fries on the side.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

       Hey Craze, how 'bout telling us how noone will get by the Patty Div.
    winner!
                                       Denny

    Denny, care to make a p-name bet??? Have to figure how to do this if
    Jake wins our Pitt-Rangers bet.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

       Sure, why not. Lets see if the Rangers get in first. I'll be outta
    town nexted week so we'll have to figure it out this week. I'll tell
    you though, I'd rather see the Broons play the Rangers than the Pens.
    Too much fire power, as they found out last year! 
                                         Denny

    re: .74
    
    But Lemeuix is probably out for the season which means they have a lot
    less firepower then last year. Rangers were one of the highest scoring
    teams this year and Graves will miss a maximum of 1 game in the next
    series.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    Ok Denny same deal as with Jake if the Rangers do face the Bruins, I
    won't presume to make a bet if the Penguins get in.
    
    If Rangers face the Bruins and Rangers win you use the p-name
    
    Rangers beat Bruins X games to Y with the appropriate substitution for
    X and Y. Vice versa if Bruins beat the Rangers.
    
    P-name remains until the Stanley Cup finals are finished. Should the
    Rangers win the Stanley Cup your p-name then becomes for one week
    
    NY Rangers, Stanley Cup Champions
    
    if Bruins win the Cup mine becomes for one week
    
    Boston Bruins, Stanley Cup Champions
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    	Better watch it Denny, he did't use quotes ("")
    
    				/Don

    Deal!!
       Now where's Bob Hunt's phone no?!!
                                     Denny  8^)

    re: .77
    
    ????
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    	Guess you weren't here for the Great MorT Whineoff after the
    Broncos/Bills AFC Championship game Met.  It's an inside joke.
    
    				/Don

       Where is MorT anyhoo?
                                     Denny

    	His FauxStars are history and so is he.
    
    				/Don

    re: .??
    
    Oh yeah the MrT thing, I was here, now I remember.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

       Looks like he's playing "innocent" eh Slasher? Have to keep a eye on
    him!
                                               Denny  8^)

    Rangers lost game 5 to the Pens 3-2. Rangers were down 2-0 on a very
    early goal and then a penalty shot goal. Rangers tied it in the 3rd,
    Pens got a goal with 5 or so minutes left in the 3rd and hung on from
    there.
    
    Nearly every championship team has a defining moments in the playoffs.
    Clearly this is the Rangers gut wrenching moment. Either they have what
    it takes and somehow pull out game 6 in Pitt and finally another game
    7, or ...
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    Another shattered dream. No excuses though. Penguins came through in
    game 4 and the Rangers never completely recovered. Penguins played good
    intelligent hockey and were just a little better when they had to be.
    
    Only silver lining is looking back at the 1979 Islanders who were
    widely favored to win or at least contend in the finals for the Stanley
    Cup. They lost to the underdog Rangers in 6 games and came back the
    following year to start a streak of 4 Stanley Cups in a row. Yeah it's
    grasping for a silver lining, but ...
    
    I never thought I would root for the Bruins to sweep a series. Not that
    I really loathe the Penguins, but the sooner they lose, the sooner I
    get my p-name back. No matter what I will root for the winner of the
    Chicago/Edmonton series in the Cup finals.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    Well TCM,
    I am here to offer my sincere condolensces. I will withold my '1940'
    chant till JD returns ( altho the 'Goons fans got into it), I actually
    was rooting for the Broadway Blueshirts ( as I picked em in me pool).
    Can mky NewYawk hatred be abating?? Nah, jest felt bad for the
    Rangers and their fans. Reminds me of a certain team up these parts.
    Better luck nexted year.
    
    Now, go Broons! Someone tomahawk Ulf the Ugly!
    
    MikeL
    
    

    Rangers choked again.
    
    JD

    Don,
    
    Les Habs are still number 2.  Love the forum.  Broons played gtreat.
    
    Heck, Slash, I'll be rooting for the Broons vs. the Pengoons.
    
    JD

>    Don,
    
>    Les Habs are still number 2.  Love the forum.  Broons played gtreat.
    
>    Heck, Slash, I'll be rooting for the Broons vs. the Pengoons.
    
>    JD

Damn! If that aint a kiss a death ala Dinsmore, I don't know what is.
Typical JD, very typical! 8^)


Steve

    That's cuz JD coming back to jinx us Broons' fans.  NYR jinx carries
    over jest like the plague.
    
    BTW Slash, who was Alice havin' a fling with
    
    Disillusioned,
    MikeL
    

    To tell yathe troof, I figured once the strike happened, the Rangers
    were destined to another cupless summer.  Don't know why - but that was
    my gut feeling.  I'll  root for anyone but the Penguins and thereFAUX
    fans.   Even da  Broons.
    
    I'd be a rootng for the Hawks orthe Erlers in the finals anyway -
    Edmonton is my #3 favorite team - love that Esa Tikkanen!
    
    JD
    
    But the Hawks, as the esteemed Mr. Lufay says, have the best uniforms
    in pro sports.

    Not Sam the butcher?

    Actually, I don't watch much at all... don't see me in the wrasslin'
    note do ya?

    JD, the new Hawks' uniforms sip.
    
    Mark.

    Yeah, but the old 1920s uniforms are wicked rad! Gotta like the red and
    balck stripes. Much better than those wussy teal and silver San Jose 
    Sharks stuff that seems to be pretty popular. I also heard the Wails are 
    gonna change their colors. Lemmie guess, think they'll go for black, 
    since its the most trendy color these days? Maybe not, cause this will
    cause roving gangs of insurance salesmen and underwriters will be 
    terrorizing the good citizens of Asylum Street, smashing store windows 
    at G.Fox, and burning down the West Farms Mall, while wearing their 
    mean-looking *BLACK* satin wailers jackets....  
    
    Tom

>    gonna change their colors. Lemmie guess, think they'll go for black, 
>    since its the most trendy color these days? Maybe not, cause this will
>    cause roving gangs of insurance salesmen and underwriters will be 
>    terrorizing the good citizens of Asylum Street, smashing store windows 
>    at G.Fox, and burning down the West Farms Mall, while wearing their 
>    mean-looking *BLACK* satin wailers jackets....  
    
Dread,

There was a BIG article on this in the Courant a few months back.

The main problem is GREEN.  Green on the road uniforms doesn't show
very well on TV.  It looks more yukky than they do in real life.

Second, Green is not a marketable color.  For example, the White
Celtics jackets outsell the Green ones by like 70-30.

So the Whales were thinking of changing their road uniforms to blue
and silver.  

The official colors of the team are White, Green, Blue.   They even
showed a touched up picture of a Whaler in a road uniform which looked
blue.....


Hope dis helps, mon,
'Saw