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| 255.1 | How to enter the fray
| NECK::THOMPSON | | Sat Jul 15 1989 10:45 | 6 |
| Just write your ideas for new themes/decnet nodenames as replies to this note.
I forgot to mention that the free ethernet terminators will be awarded to all
successful entrants.
I'll start.... how about Glass Insulators as a theme?
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| 255.2 | Sounds like a bug to me... | ELBOW::DRAPER | Steve Draper | Mon Jul 17 1989 08:12 | 14 |
| You are (or obviously soon will be) suffering from something painful. So
how about
STREP
STAPH
COCCUS
and to cure the problem
TETRA
CYCLIN
MYCIN
All of the above names available at the time of writing
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| 255.3 | Oh, c'mon, chaps and chapesses... | HEWIE::RUSSELL | BX Turbo drivers do it with woooosh! | Mon Jul 17 1989 09:08 | 10 |
| After having seen the suggestions so far,
(and with all due respect to my colleagues)
someone PLEASE come up with some suggestions, or these will be
inflicted on us!!
Peter. (who can only think of the Citroen model range, as in
AX, BX, CX, VISA (oh shucks, that's gone already.. back to
the drawing board!))
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| 255.4 | I haven't got a conk ! | CURRNT::OTTEN | Zaphod Beeblebrox lookalike | Mon Jul 17 1989 12:52 | 16 |
| How about the first name (+ initial?) of the user of the machine?
Eg Peterr
Kiethd
Davido
or, if that doesn't work, the product that they're
developing/supporting??
(INFOACCESS is out until the next phase of decnet)
David
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| 255.5 | Wot - no glass insulators
| NECK::THOMPSON | | Mon Jul 17 1989 13:48 | 21 |
| Parts of the body continued....
CUTICL
SYNAPS
COCKYX
A clothes cluster perhaps
BRACES
GLOVES
BLOUSE
SHIRTS
SPORRN
Or an environmentally friendly cluster
GREENS
BLEACH
PBFREE
NATURL
SCHMUT
SPOILT
SLICKS
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| 255.6 | | CURRNT::BADMAN | You're ugly, but you intrigue me! | Mon Jul 17 1989 16:58 | 37 |
| Why not let the recipient of the workstation choose a name ?
As long as it isn't on the net already and it is not "dodgy" in
any way, I don't see the problem.
Failing this (reasonable?) solution, I'd like to suggest a few themes
(you *knew* I would, didn't you ???!!!)
Bodily noises ...
GRUFF
BURP
COUGH
Sexually transmitted diseases ...
AIDS
HERPES
VD
CLAP
(Although I doubt whether this would be allowed !)
Megastars ...
BOWIE
JARRE
BROS (WEY AYE GED MUN!)
Jamie.
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| 255.7 | And here's one we made earlier ! | CURRNT::DAW | VTX does it with pages !! | Mon Jul 17 1989 19:36 | 51 |
| How about the Blue Peter Cluster (free as of 6.15 17/7/89 from ANCHOR):
The Presenters:
VALERI: Valerie Singleton
VSINGL: " "
CTRACE: Christopher Trace
NOAKES: John Noakes
PURVES: Peter Purves
LESLEE: Lesley Judd
DUNKAN: Peter Duncan
KETING: Caron Keating
LLEILA: Leila Johnson
THEATH: Tina Heath (old presenter also was Lizzie Dripping)
JUDDDD: Lesley Judd (again - she must be popular)
SGROOM: Simon Groom
CHRISW: Christopher Wenn
PETEDU: Peter Duncan
YVETTE: Yvette Fielding
The pets:
PPETRA: Petra
SSHEPP: Shep
GOLDEE: Goldie
HONEEE: Honey
BUTONS: Buttons
JAKJIL: Jack and Jill (the cats)
FREDDA: Freda the male tortoise who became female
The catch-phrases:
EARLYR: Here's one I made earlier
STIKKY: Sticky Backed Plastic
EXPEDI: Blue Peter Expedition
COMPET: Blue Peter Competition (for Geordies)
YOGPOT: Yoghurt Pot
LOOROL: Inside of a Toilet Roll
STAMPS: Draw an Organisation chart on a stamp competition
OLDSOK: Old Socks - collected in an appeal
KIDDIE: The Brats that watch it
APPEEL: Blue Peter APPEEL
BLUPET: Blue Peter (for Geordies again)
TENPA5: Ten past 5 (the time it was on)
Well we can't think of anymore
Rob & Louise (UK ADG)
x x x
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| 255.8 | HOWZAT!!! | CHEST::BARKER | My Yacht runs on Lead-Free wind | Tue Jul 18 1989 10:15 | 19 |
| How about the England Cricket team.
GOWER
BOTHAM
GATTNG
FOSTER
DILLEY
JARVIS
SMITH
RUSSEL.
EMBURY
LAMB
Etc.
If we run out, just wait until the next test, 'cos there are bound
to be several replacements.
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| 255.9 | | CURRNT::BADMAN | You're ugly, but you intrigue me! | Thu Jul 20 1989 14:07 | 8 |
| Chris,
I'd rather have an account on a machine named after a sexually
transmitted disease than an England cricket player !
Jamie.
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| 255.10 | Did I miss something? | CURRNT::SAXBY | Set mode/headless chicken | Thu Jul 20 1989 15:04 | 4 |
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Which England cricketer is named after a sexually transmitted disease?
Mark
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| 255.11 | Well, since you asked... | HEWIE::RUSSELL | BX Turbo drivers do it with woooosh! | Thu Jul 20 1989 15:57 | 20 |
| As we already have HAND in the area, why not build a LAVC called
HANDS,
KNEES,
and
BOOMPS
ADAISY.
(BUMPS had already gone...)
Alternatively, how about
UCG001
UCG002
UCG003 and so on...
but this is no good, it'll all have to change the next time we move offices!
Peter.
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| 255.12 | | CURRNT::BADMAN | You're ugly, but you intrigue me! | Wed Jul 26 1989 17:37 | 22 |
|
I suggest we name some nodes after our esteemed mentors and managers;
EMERY
HUCKLE
MCKENA
SAMS
Jamie.
"Emery is really slow today!"
"Huckle needs rebooting!"
"Mckena is down again!"
"Sams hasn't been installed properly!"
;-)
Face it! You called me a creep OUT LOUD before you saw the rest
of this note, didn't you!
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| 255.13 | Some more | CHEST::LEE | IAM4CH3CH2OH | Tue Aug 01 1989 16:03 | 32 |
| How about a
Australian SOAP Opera theme::
KYLIE
JASON
MANGLE
SCOTT
DAFNIE
PAUL
BOUNCR
CBLOKH ( for real bad taste )
OR a clustor for POP/MUSICAL GROUPS
BROS (God help the person who gets this)
LEVL42
CREAM
RUSH
TPAU
Famous Musical Personalies
CLPTON
JCKSON
MDONNA
PRINCE
Enuff for now
Phil
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| 255.14 | Already taken. | CURRNT::SAXBY | Set mode/headless chicken | Tue Aug 01 1989 17:24 | 8 |
|
They'll have to reserve BROS for...
Ged Mullen :-)
Sorry Ged!
Mark
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| 255.15 | | CURRNT::BADMAN | You're ugly, but you intrigue me! | Tue Aug 01 1989 17:29 | 21 |
| Ummmmm....
I've just thought a bit more about this and have decided that I
don't understand the problem anymore!
Currently we do not have enough node numbers allocated to us to
put all of the workstations onto the easynet. This means that new
nodes won't be on the net anyway.
When Decnet Phase V is implemented, we will have.
When Decnet Phase V is implemented we will be able to have node
names up to 311 characters (I think!).
This is more than enough characters to provide node names a plenty!
So what's the problem ?
Jamie.
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| 255.16 | But what's the question?? | ELBOW::DRAPER | Steve Draper | Tue Aug 01 1989 18:48 | 10 |
| > Currently we do not have enough node numbers allocated to us to
> put all of the workstations onto the easynet. This means that new
> nodes won't be on the net anyway.
But we will have by the time the new nodes arrive - which will be
yonks before DECnet Phase V.
So - what's the question, Jamie??
Steve
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| 255.17 | | CURRNT::BADMAN | You're ugly, but you intrigue me! | Thu Aug 03 1989 11:41 | 13 |
| I thought we (Digital) were running out of node numbers hence the
need for all these hidden nodes.
Obviously I'm misinformed since if we're going to be allocated loads
more node numbers we've got to think of loads more node names!
Any indication as to approximately how many names we've got to think
of Steve ?
Cheers,
Jamie.
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| 255.18 | We are running out of node numbers, | HEWIE::RUSSELL | BX Turbo drivers do it with woooosh! | Thu Aug 03 1989 11:53 | 20 |
| but not node names!
Put simply, each existing decnet area from 1 to 62 will have it's *own*
area 63, thereby doubling the capacity of the EASYNET from 65,000 to
130,000. The intention is this will give us enough expansion until
DECnet Phae V comes along.
So, area 44 will have node 63.1 called "FRED", and area 45 will have it's own
node 63.1 called "JIM", and so on.
The names must still be unique, otherwise you'll have all kind of problems.
Now, since the plabn is that over a period of time most (all?) ADG people
will have workstations, we're going to need one node name per person.
So, get suggesting!
More details are avilable; come roundand see us if you want 'em.
Peter.
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| 255.19 | Within the bounds of decency. | SUBURB::FRENCHS | Gentry to the ratholer. | Thu Aug 03 1989 13:26 | 4 |
| Why not let the user of the workstation choose the name?
Simon
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| 255.20 | | HEWIE::RUSSELL | BX Turbo drivers do it with woooosh! | Thu Aug 03 1989 15:18 | 10 |
| re .19;
>Why not let the user of the workstation choose the name?
Umm, I thought that's what we were doing.....
and if youdon't do it soon, thesmart money is going on UCG001, UCG002, UCG003,
or even more obscure parts of the body!!
Peter...
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| 255.21 | I did | SUBURB::FRENCHS | Gentry to the ratholer. | Thu Aug 03 1989 17:14 | 7 |
| I have already chosen my node name, registered it
and I havn't even got a workstation...
YET !
Simon
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| 255.22 | Confused... | SHAPES::ALFORDJ | Dragon Riders do it in between... | Thu Aug 03 1989 18:17 | 5 |
|
Forgive me if I am being totally thick, but does this mean that all the
"hidden" node number (63.*) will be inaccessible from the Net ?
Jane.
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| 255.23 | Confused??...you soon will be!! | ELBOW::DRAPER | Steve Draper | Thu Aug 03 1989 20:13 | 16 |
| No they won't be inaccessible from the net (otherwise, why bother with node
names/numbers?)
But they *will* only be known by the main area to which your "hidden" 63 area
is attached. This means that:
1. Certain things won't work
2. Other things will work - but you have to do them differently
3. Yet other things will be completely unaffected
I told you that you'd be confused!!! Now, to *really* get confused, I suggest
read the Hidden Areas User's Guide that Jerry distributed the other day. Have a
word with Jerry if you don't have a copy. Have a word with me if you're still
confused after reading it.
Steve
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| 255.24 | What will and won't work | CUCKOO::BRUNNOCK | Good drivers do it considerably... | Fri Aug 04 1989 11:23 | 51 |
| Hi all,
my workstation is in a hidden area (CAROLE, 63.37) so, from first hand,
here is how you work with EasyNet.
1. Using local nodes (YARD, OBLONG, FOOT, NECK, CUCKOO, etc., etc.) you
just use the name as you would now (eg DIR YARD::,
MAIL ANDY.TXT OBLONG::BRUNNOCKA).
2. Using remote nodes (e.g. REOxxx, MARVIN, LEROUF, etc) which are not
in area 44 you have to prefix with the node CURVE
(e.g. DIR CURVE::MARVIN::, MAIL ANDY.TXT CURVE::LEROUF::BRUNNOCK).
3. You cannot use any software that depends on remote server communications
(e.g. VAXnotes) because when you try to OPEN CURVE::SUBURB::READING,
VAXnotes calls the server on CURVE and tries to access a file called
NOTES$LIBRARY:SUBURB::READING.NOTE which won't work. However, if you
are running DECwindows, you can SET HOST to a machine with VAXnotes
V2 and DECwindows and enter the following commands :
$ DEFINE DECW$DISPLAY CAROLE::WSA0
$ NOTES/DECWINDOWS
and DECwindows notes runs on your workstation from the remote node
(sneaky isn't it) :-). I have this running at this very moment via
CUCKOO so if you want a demo, come see me!
If you have a VAXnotes conference on your node and you want people
outside of area 44 to access it, then you have to move it to an area
44 node.
4. For other people to access your node they have to go through CURVE
as well. To do a directory fo my default decnet account, use
the command
DIR CURVE::CAROLE::
(Nodes in area 44 [i.e. FUTURS, SHAPES, CURRNT, etc.] do not need
to prefix the node name. From CURRNT you can just do a DIR CAROLE::.
If you get a `remote node is unknown', try 64549::. IS might not
have got around to setting up the hidden area node names on that
machine yet.)
Those are the only restrictions that I have found. Everything (except the
VAXnotes conferences) can be solved by putting CURVE:: in front of the source/
target name. If you have any specific queries, call me on 7781-4416 and if I
don't know the answer, I'll try it!
Hidden areas do NOT make life difficult; they just slightly modify the way
that you do things.
Andy
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| 255.25 | Less confused... | SHAPES::ALFORDJ | Dragon Riders do it in between... | Fri Aug 04 1989 12:48 | 4 |
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Thanks Steve and Andy, that helps a lot.
I'll go talk to Jerry though...
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| 255.26 | | CURRNT::BADMAN | You're ugly, but you intrigue me! | Fri Aug 04 1989 12:57 | 11 |
| Simon has a point; you're *not* letting us choose our own machine
names. You're asking for suggestions of names that you can then
use for workstations when they arrive. The difference is obvious;
Simon is suggesting that when person X gets their workstation person
X can think up a name and register it. You are proposing to name
the workstations for the people receiving them from a list made
up of our suggestions.
Jamie.
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| 255.27 | Goal has moved - rules remain the same.
| NECK::THOMPSON | | Mon Aug 07 1989 10:44 | 19 |
| WHen I opened this note, the method of registering new node names could take
anything up to 4 weeks to confirm. So for instance out of the 11 names chosen
for the VS2000's which were at the time thought to be unique across easynet, 2
were already in use in other hidden areas.
But today, thanks to a great leap in technology, IS can find out within a few
minutes if the node names have been registered - (this is starting to sound
like a Maggie Philbin script).
So Jamie (and others) you CAN choose your own node names if and when you get a
workstation and I have absolutely no desire to ask you to do otherwise.
However, there will be loadsa nodes that are for communal use e.g. disk servers,
printer servers, passthrough servers, DNS.DFS servers, and it would be a
little easier to keep track of who runs what in Blasingsmoke if the ADG nodes
could be identified by common themes. So the names suggested so far DO have a
value, even if the original target for the names has changed.
So what's yors called?
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| 255.28 | On a clear night !! | CHEST::CLIFFE | A Haggistarian | Mon Aug 07 1989 14:58 | 51 |
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Ok you asked for node names, here are just a selection that
you can see on a good night with a good telescope that have
six character names.
A decent star catalogue will give lots more !!
Stars :
DENAB KAITOS MIRACH ALAMAK HAMAL MIRA ALGOL RIGEL
ELNATH SAIPH MIRZAM ALHENA SIRIUS ADHARA WEZEN CASTOR
POLLUX NAOS TUREIS DUBHE ACRUX GACRUX ALIOTH MIZAR
SPICA ALKAID AGENA KOCHAB GEMMA SHAULA VEGA NUNKI
ALTAIR SADR DENAB ALNAIR
This means of course that you can put the stars in a cluster(!),
named after the constellations.
Unfortunatley, most stars in the real constellations have more than
six letters, but when extended node names come into being,
you could have ;
LIBRA cluster nodes :- ZUBENELGENUBI
ZUBENESCHEMALI
ZUBENELAKRAB !!
Constellations : (with common or English meaning)
ANTLIA Air pump APUS Bird of paradise
AQUILA Eagle ARA Alter
ARIES Ram AURIGA Charioteer
BOOTES Herdsman CAELUM Chisel
CANCER Crab KARINA Keel (of Argo)
CETUS Sea monster (or whale) CORVUS Crow (or raven)
CRATER Cup CRUX Southern cross
CYGNUS Swan DORADO Dorado
DRACO Dragon FORNAX Furnace
GEMINI Twins GRUS Crane
HYDRA Water Serpent HYDRUS Small water snake
INDUS Indian (American) LEO Lion
LEPUS Hare LIBRA Scales
LUPUS Wolf LYNX Lynx
LYRE Lyre MENSA Table mountain
MUSCA Fly NORMA Carpenters square
OCTANS Octant ORION Orion the hunter
PAVO Peacock PICTOR Painters easel
PISCES Fishs PUPPIS Poop (of Argos)
PYXIS Ships compass SCUTUM Shield
TAURUS Bull TUCANA Toucan
VELA Sail (of Argos) VIRGO Maiden
VOLANS Flyin fish
Tom. (Starry starry night ..)
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| 255.29 | | CURRNT::WRIGHT | I AM a member of this company | Mon Aug 07 1989 17:28 | 3 |
| Best idea yet TOm
Tony
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