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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

4258.0. "Any on-line lists of current products???" by SDTPMM::SDTPMM::SMICK (Van C. Smick - Branding & Naming Mgr (381-0781)) Wed Nov 08 1995 14:30

    Since I know that a lot of the regular noters in this conference have
    excellent contacts and networks within Digital, I'm hoping someone has
    a solution to this problem.
    
    I frequently have to find out if Digital is still selling a product for
    which we have a trademark.  For instance, at the moment I need to know
    if we are still selling PowerFactory, TokenWorks, or WorkScape.
    
    Can any of you think of any on-line sources that can be checked by
    product name, not 2-5-2 number?
    
    Thanks,
     Van
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4258.1QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centWed Nov 08 1995 15:185
Van, the first thing you need is a MadeupName to 2-5-2 translator.  I have
never heard of any of the three products you mention!  If you CAN get the
2-5-2 number, I would use VTX PRICE to see if it's still in the price book.

			Steve
4258.2Gone to startups, everyone. When will they ever learn?...ATLANT::SCHMIDTSee http://atlant2.zko.dec.com/Wed Nov 08 1995 15:279
Van:

> WorkScape.

  If that's what I think it was, they're all gone, some to TFSO
  and the rest to better opportunities elsewhere. But if it's
  crucial, I can probably recall a manager's name or two.

                                   Atlant
4258.3WorkScape - an SI productSHRMSG::PEREIRAWed Nov 08 1995 17:468
The product WorkScape is very much alive at Digital. It provides an
environment for multi-document display and VR-ish manipulation.

The System Integration - Enabling Technologies and Products WWW Server 
can be found at http://workscape.tay1.dec.com

Beatrice Chaney, Project Leader, GUESS::CHANEY, 227-4472
    
4258.4VTX IRA1VAX::GUNNI couldn't possibly commentWed Nov 08 1995 19:138
    While not guaranteed to be 100% comprehensive, searching the
    Information Repository (VTX IR), all categories using the particular
    product name as a keyword, should turn up references to the product
    if it still being sold. This would be the quickest way I know to find
    the kind of information you are looking for.
    
    (Now standby for a DECtechdroid to rathole this whole string with a
    tirade on the VTX UI  8-)  !)
4258.5Workscape != productGUESS::CARRASCO`Compassion is wealth'Wed Nov 08 1995 20:054
Actually, Workscape is not a product, yet.  It's still under development.


Pilar.
4258.6A few search resourcesCFSCTC::SMITHTom Smith TAY2-1/L7 dtn 227-3236Thu Nov 09 1995 00:0239
    Hi Van.
    
    In general, some good on-line sources to use for leads are:
    
    Digital internal WWW full-text index:
    http://src-www.pa.dec.com/cgi-bin/dwi
    [found Workscape the SI/MAYA project mentioned previously]
                                               
    COMET (search NOTES, STARS, QAR databases, etc.):
    http://www-comet.alf.dec.com:8032/
    [found tokenWORKS - token ring network interface products; and WorkScape
    mentioned in connection with TeamLinks, WorkScape the predecessor name
    to TeamRoute (formerly DECflow), and Workscape the 3D document
    visualizer/desktop for NT (same as above)]
    
    SPDs:
    http://www.digital.com/info/SPD/home.html [no luck]
    
    Main WWW server search:
    http://www.digital.com/www-cgi-bin/textit?/info/forms/search.html
    [found tokenWORKS (last mention 1/94)]
    
    DECdirect search:
    http://www2.service.digital.com/DECdirect/html/search-form.html
    [nada]
    
    There's no search on the Systems and Options catalog yet, I don't
    think.
    
    And then the ones that include external sources:
    Alta Vista (experimental)
    http://altavista.pa.dec.com/
    [found  "DEC TOKENWORKS ISA      DT204-AA" and several "workscape"s]
    
    And if it's really tough to find, the arsenal at:
    http://www.see.tay.dec.com/WWW-search-engines.html
    [don't bother looking for PowerFactory]
    
    -Tom
4258.7Search price file product names for specific textBBPBV1::WALLACEUNIX is digital. Use Digital UNIX.Thu Nov 09 1995 06:2519
    If you'd like to search the _UK_ price file, to find a word in the
    product name, you can do so (as can digital's UK business partners),
    using a Web-based service which the outside world can find at
    	http://www.digital.co.uk
    Or internally at
    	http://www.bbp.dec.com
    
    In both cases follow the links to PartnerWeb. External users require a
    username and password from Digital to access sensitive information such
    as prices (!).
    
    There are differences between what's sold in the UK and what's sold
    elsewhere, some deliberate and others accidental, but it may be a good
    starting point. If you find it here, it's available for sale here.
    Probably.
    
    regards
    john
    
4258.8Thanks!SDTPMM::VANC::SMICKVan C. Smick - Branding & Naming Mgr (381-0781)Thu Nov 09 1995 08:084
    Thanks for the points, gang. As usual you came through with flying
    colors when the offical channels just said huh?  ;-})
    
    Van
4258.9(-: ... Sorry Van, can't resist this cheap shot... :-)DRDAN::KALIKOWDIGITAL=DEC; Reclaim the Name&Glory!Thu Nov 09 1995 08:3415
    And OBTW Gang, thanks for all the useful input in 2433.*, 2568.*,
    2829.*, 4121.*, and elsewhere.  As usual, you came through with
    originality and passion when the official channels just said DIGITAL
    DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL
    DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL
    DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL
    DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL
    DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL DIGITAL
    
    ... sorry, broken analog record has a skip in the darn groove ... I
    guess I best switch to digital technology ...
    
    :-) You make it so EASY... (-: 
    
    
4258.10SDTPMM::VANC::SMICKVan C. Smick - Branding & Naming Mgr (381-0781)Fri Nov 10 1995 10:468
    RE:-.1
    
    I'm always happy to provide the entertainment. However  in this case I
    don't get the joke.
    
    But that's not important -- just as long as you have fun ;-})
    
    Van
4258.11online Dick Best ListNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksFri Nov 10 1995 12:064


	VTX CEO  (Chief Engineer's Office)
4258.12QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centFri Nov 10 1995 12:573
VTX CEO won't tell you if the product is still sold.

			Steve
4258.13What CEO *will* tell youDECCXX::AMARTINAlan H. MartinFri Nov 10 1995 13:3021
Re .12:

>VTX CEO won't tell you if the product is still sold.

VTX CEO will tell you this:

 -       NO OPTION, BUT A SERIES NAME
 0       PROJECT CANCELLED (NEVER BUILT)
 1       IN CONCEPT STAGE, SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE
 2       IN DESIGN
 3       CUSTOM BUILT OR LOW VOLUME
 4       RELEASED TO BUILD (HARDWARE) OR PRE-RELEASED (SOFTWARE)
 5       RELEASED TO PRODUCTION (HARDWARE) OR AVAILABLE IN THE
         SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTION CENTER (SOFTWARE)
 6       OBSOLETE BUT CAN STILL BE CUSTOM BUILT
 7       NO LONGER MANUFACTURED, BUT SERVICED
 8       NO LONGER MANUFACTURED OR SERVICED

However, it says the Avanti I'm typing this on is still "IN DESIGN", so maybe
this isn't all it's cracked up to be.
				/AHM