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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
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4112.0. "KO!...say it ain't so..." by ALFSS1::FLAHERTY () Fri Sep 08 1995 18:52

    	The September 11 issue of Information Week has a short story
    regarding KO being appointed chaitman of Modular Solutions, a
    three-year-old systems developer in Acton, Mass. 
    	The story mentions the irony of Olson's appointment. The company
    recently announced a joint deal with IBM's Manufacturing Industry
    Solution's unit in Charlotte, N.C. to deliver a server that enables
    customers to migrate off VAX/VMS platforms.
    	The IBM 7596 Cross-Platform Server comes with a Pentium processor,
    a PowerPC 601 chip, and a VAX processor.The server provides conected
    workstations with shared access to applications running on OS/2,
    Windows, VMS, and AIX.
    	IBM said it is positioning the 7596 for customers that still need
    to support existing VAX/VMS applications in a production environment,
    but may want to move off that platform to a PowerPC/AIX solution.
    
    	I know ken probably has a bad taste in his mouth from how he was/is
    treated as a non-entity by the current SLT, but I feel hurt that Ken's
    business activities may be aimed at hurting the rest of his "family". I
    still wonder why to this day Digital does not pay tribute to Ken and
    woo him back as a productive member of Digital. Say what you will about
    wrong decisions that may have been made by Ken, but I think the weight
    throughout the years of the correct/innovative decisions he made should
    not be ignored. Maybe the employees should take it upon ourselves to
    let Ken know how we feel.
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4112.2Not surprisedIROCZ::MORRISONBob M. LKG1-3/A11 226-7570Sun Sep 10 1995 18:152
  In a way I'm not surprised. The Digital that KO created is mostly history.
The new SLT has trashed many of the values he stood for.
4112.3"Yossarian, we just want you to like us!"ATLANT::SCHMIDTSee http://atlant2.zko.dec.com/Sun Sep 10 1995 21:2223
  I'm amazed every time folks expect a dismissed employee to
  harbor warm feelings about the corporation that dismissed
  them, yet many folks have written notes along that theme.

  This isn't "Catch 22" and there's no one sending you home
  as a trade for "liking them".

  When the corporation treats people like dirt, whether they're
  customers or employees, people remember. For a L-O-N-G time.

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  Meanwhile, I wouldn't suggest that Ken is doing this out of
  malice. This is business, and if he's got a good idea (like
  a server that lets you run VAX software while you convert to
  something more modern), he has EVERY right to exploit that
  idea.

  After all, I've also read a lot of notes by a lot of Libertarian
  engineers extolling the value of unbridled capitalism; sorry if
  it's goring your oxe this time.

                                   Atlant
4112.4like we weren't in trouble .....TROOA::MSCHNEIDERDigital has it NOW ... Again!Sun Sep 10 1995 21:235
    Well this company was in a wee bit of trouble when he was shown the
    door.  If the buck stopped at his door, then I think bad mouthing the
    current regime who has managed to stop the bleeding, seems rather
    pointless.  Maybe the company he created couldn't survive today's
    realities.
4112.5HERON::KAISERMon Sep 11 1995 06:167
Why believe so easily that Ken ("Olsen", not "Olson" -- how soon we
forget!) is badmouthing Digital?  Who says so?  What are the (verifiable)
facts?

And as several replies noted, business is business.  Or supposed to be.

___Pete
4112.6At least he cares!HANNAH::SICHELAll things are connected.Mon Sep 11 1995 10:5213
Consider also that people don't spend the time and energy to
be critical of something unless they care about it.  I'd be
more concerned if Ken wasn't a bit critical of the current Digital.

The changes we had to make have been very painful.
Stopping the bleading may have cost us our soul.
How much remains of the original purpose and spirit of DEC?

Yes, we had to stop the bleeding.  But now it's time to heal
and rebuild the spirit of Digital.  The jury is still out on
whether we can achieve this.

- Peter
4112.7He's selling VAX product.DIODE::CROWELLJon CrowellMon Sep 11 1995 11:047
    
    Ken's company buys the VAX systems from Digital. Last time
    I heard he was buying VAXstation4000-90A boxes without
    the graphics.  So he is helping sell VAX systems.  Someone
    from my old group works there.
    
    Jon
4112.8Analysts not impressedJUMP4::JOYPerception is realityMon Sep 11 1995 13:4910
    I read some analysts comments on this new server from IBM. They were
    pretty much underwhelmed by the whole thing. There was no mention of
    where the VMS licenses come from, the lack of need for yet another
    server on a LAN and the fact that IBM has never been good with this
    sort of box in the past and they didn't expect this time to be any
    different. So Ken's new company may or may not be successful with this
    partnership.
    
    Debbie
    
4112.9ATLANT::SCHMIDTSee http://atlant2.zko.dec.com/Mon Sep 11 1995 14:5611
  Licensing the software (e.g., VMS) isn't a problem. An old
  lawsuit against IBM conclusively decided that a vendor *MUST*
  be willing to sell their system software unbundled from their
  hadware.

  And if, as an earlier note asserts, the VAX CPUs are obtained
  by buying and "reconfiguring" a DEC system, then there's no
  problem at all; just buy the DEC system with a VMS license.
  The license doesn't evaporate just because you throw the
  mounting box away.
                                   Atlant
4112.10Digital what ?DPDMAI::GUINEO::MOOREHEY! All you mimes be quiet!Mon Sep 11 1995 15:337
    
    KO is in a niche market.  Let him go for it.  People used to complain
    about how little marketing we did under the KO realm.  
    
    But, of course, so much has changed...
    
    ;^)
4112.12LESREG::CAHILLMon Sep 11 1995 16:1424
From the Telegram & Gazette, 9/6/95

Digital Equipment Corp's founder and retired president,
69-year-old Kenneth H. Olsen, has a new job.  Olsen has
recently been named chairman of Advanced Modular Solutions
Inc. of Acton, MA where he has served as technical consultant
and adviser since the company's December 1992 founding by
a former Digital executive.

"Ken has a high level of involvement and will have a day-to-day
presence at the company," said spokeswoman Elizabeth Beach.

Olsen will work with the company's new president and chief
executive officer, Lyn Benton, who previously held executive
positions with Lotus, Digital & Data General.  Benton succeeds
Advanced Modular's founder, Terry Potter, who has been named
director of new business development.

The privately held, 56-employee company designs, manufactures
and assembles servers, which control the operation of computer
networks.  The company helps mainframe computer users move to
new and simpler systems.  Olsen himself was instrumental in
the company's funding.
4112.13MRKTNG::BROCKSon of a BeechTue Sep 12 1995 09:083
    That was hardly a 'new job' for Ken. He was instrumental in the
    founding, funding, and ongoing funding of Modular. He has been very
    active in this company almost since his departure from Digital. 
4112.14the old ACOAKOCOA::MHUGHESTue Sep 12 1995 23:345
    Modular, Ken's new company, is located in the old ACO facility
    at Piper Rd. in Acton.  Passed by there yesterday and the parking
    lot is not too full compared to when I worked there in the late '80's.
    
    ....mike
4112.15Ken is probably still our biggest stockholder!WRKSYS::BRYANWed Sep 13 1995 11:058
    Don't forget that Ken probably still owns about 3,000,000 shares
    of DEC stock.  Anything that he does now to make DEC less 
    valuable hurts him also.  With 60 or so employees copared to
    our 60,000 I suspect he is just doing it out of interest - he
    really doesn't need the money.  $42 time 3 million is
    still enough to retire comfortably on!
    
    Tony
4112.16ICS::BEANAttila the Hun was a LIBERAL!Thu Sep 14 1995 08:484
    But, would he still draw Social Security?
    
    
    ;)