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3553.1 | Terrible. No. and yes | POBOX::CORSON | Higher, and a bit more to the right | Tue Dec 06 1994 16:58 | 1 |
|
|
3553.2 | People Leaving... | GLDOA::CUTLER | | Wed Dec 07 1994 06:59 | 10 |
|
Don't know about revenue, don't know about layoffs (I'm sure more
are to come) but we're losing people (resignations)
right and left. One Sales unit has gone from 7 to 3 people in the
last two months. Not sure how they're going to cover the account,
it's a large and important one too. Sad, really sad, good people
walking out the door.
RC
|
3553.3 | | MLNAD0::ANTONANGELI | The Customer is always left! | Tue Dec 20 1994 13:12 | 2 |
| So, how is Q2 going? We are close to the end of it. It shouldn't be
that bad according to the share price...
|
3553.4 | crystal balls | SWAM1::MEUSE_DA | | Tue Dec 20 1994 19:08 | 10 |
|
I think it was Prudential Securities on the Prodigy line predicted
a .28 per share loss for Q2.
Don't ask me how they know, that's just what is posted in the computer
business news. Under "Dec" of course, not Digital.
|
3553.5 | Only three selling days left... | POBOX::CORSON | Higher, and a bit more to the right | Wed Dec 28 1994 13:54 | 10 |
|
That works out to about a $40MM loss for the quarter which would be
*real* good if its the operating loss. Considering we collected big
bucks from Oracle ($108MM) and Quantum ($360MM) in Q2, if it is NOT an
operating loss we are in deep sneakers.
One bright spot, however, I noticed a definite pick-up in VAR
inquiries to carry our Alpha Server products. So... who knows?
the Greyhawk
|
3553.6 | | ARCANA::CONNELLY | Don't try this at home, kids! | Wed Dec 28 1994 15:26 | 11 |
|
If the loss comes in under $50 million it will be a moral victory at this
point. Let's hope for that. The big question is will it be sustainable?
I wonder how much more can be sold off to raise cash after all the previous
machinations? The McNulty group that my organization is in still looks
like a tentative possibility (else why not just fold us into MCS?), but
other than that and maybe a few more software product groups, it's getting
to look like we may be down to the "core competencies"...
- paul
|
3553.7 | | SPECXN::WITHERS | Bob Withers | Wed Dec 28 1994 16:33 | 15 |
| If there's any loss, it should mean Bob Palmer's head. He has publically
committed to me, a shareholder, that he would achieve a profit in fiscal Q2 and
"sustained profitability" in fiscal Q4.
>================================================================================
>Note 3553.4 Q2 Status 4 of 6
>SWAM1::MEUSE_DA 10 lines 20-DEC-1994 19:08
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -< crystal balls >-
>
> I think it was Prudential Securities on the Prodigy line predicted
> a .28 per share loss for Q2.
>
> Don't ask me how they know, that's just what is posted in the computer
> business news. Under "Dec" of course, not Digital.
|
3553.8 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Wed Dec 28 1994 18:56 | 4 |
| He did? To you personally? I didn't hear of him saying that
to anyone else.
Steve
|
3553.9 | Three quotes... | SPECXN::WITHERS | Bob Withers | Wed Dec 28 1994 21:31 | 26 |
| As reported by Reuters on May 6, 1994, "DEC chief executive Robert Palmer also
set a deadline to have the company return to profitability by the end of the
calendar year, the Wall Street Journal said."
As reported by DJ-AP on July 26, "The company still has the goal of attaining
profitability by the end of calendar 1994, Chief Executive Robert[sic] said in
a teleconference with reporters."
Then, on October 19th, DJ reported, " Digital Chairman Robert Palmer said the
company's goal is still to achieve profitability by the fourth quarter. He
expects the computer maker to return to sustained proffitability by the end of
fiscal 1995 on June 30."
Complete citations are available upon request.
BobW
>================================================================================
>Note 3553.8 Q2 Status 8 of 8
>QUARK::LIONEL "Free advice is worth every cent" 4 lines 28-DEC-1994 18:56
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> He did? To you personally? I didn't hear of him saying that
> to anyone else.
>
> Steve
|
3553.10 | | SPECXN::WITHERS | Bob Withers | Wed Dec 28 1994 21:39 | 24 |
| I'd guess, rereading the quotes, that I misstated two things:
First, Bob Palmer did not say those things to me directly and personally. I'm
depending on reportage and items such as transcripts of televised employee
forums. If Dow Jones and Reuters misquote Bob Palmer, I can only go on what I
read.
Secondly, these are company goals and goals can be missed.
On the other hand, it is very clear that he and the company want to achieve
profitability this quarter, and, as a shareholder, that has set my
expectations.
BobW
>================================================================================
>Note 3553.8 Q2 Status 8 of 9
>QUARK::LIONEL "Free advice is worth every cent" 4 lines 28-DEC-1994 18:56
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> He did? To you personally? I didn't hear of him saying that
> to anyone else.
>
> Steve
|
3553.11 | It's a bulls-eye when it's in the red, ain't it? | DPDMAI::EYSTER | Fluoride&Prozac/NoCavities/No prob! | Thu Dec 29 1994 10:39 | 17 |
| May 6 - set a deadline.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (denotes a dash of commitment where I'm from)
July 26 - still have a goal.
October 19th - move that goal to June 30 '95, downgrade to "expectation".
Coming up next..."would kinda like by '98" :^]
I'd say Withers has it nailed, Steve. How safe would your job be if you
were in charge of product development and did that? Here's a "lift of
the lid" \:^] to Withers, who stated "He publicly committed to me as a
shareholder". No mention of "personally" (that was you, Steve).
Tex
("I musta got a pony for Christmas, 'cause I can smell horse***t!")
|
3553.12 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Thu Dec 29 1994 11:15 | 10 |
| I find newspaper paraphrases of what people actually said to be unreliable in
the extreme. (Just look at the recent Jocelyn Elders case.) I haven't
seen what I consider to be an authoritative quote from BP promising
profitability in any particular timeframe. If he ever did say something like
that, he deserves all the abuse he gets, but I like to think that BP is
a bit smarter than that.
But even if he DID say it, I wouldn't believe it.
Steve
|
3553.13 | Good, you're open to discussion on this! | DPDMAI::EYSTER | Fluoride&Prozac/NoCavities/No prob! | Thu Dec 29 1994 11:57 | 7 |
| "Don't trust the Liberal media." Damn those yellow-press Digital
Journal people! :^]
Steve looks like you don't believe he said it and even if he said it
you don't believe it. See any other ostrich heads down there?
Tex
|
3553.14 | | HAAG::HAAG | | Thu Dec 29 1994 12:58 | 9 |
| i think the time has come to pass judgement on accountability for returning
the corporation to profitability. we've laid of tens-of-thousands, sold
off major chunks of the company, and have been slashing expenditures
for years. this is a "big ship" and as such turns slowly. but as an
employee (soon to be gone) and ESPECIALLY as a stockholder, if this ship
isn't turned around by now heads should roll. and NOT just at the lower
rungs of the org. charts. i don't want to hear about anymore 2-4 year
plans to right our problems. we all heard them 3-4 years ago. enough
already.
|
3553.15 | Not a real good idea to change captains now | POBOX::CORSON | Higher, and a bit more to the right | Thu Dec 29 1994 13:37 | 14 |
|
Unfortunately that (re.-1) is probably not a very good idea.
If Digital gets a new CEO, etc. then the new CEO *must* bring in
*their new team* which then *must* bring in their new teams, etc. and
we all get to go back to square one and start over.
No, we are in the lifeboats with the CMC (Corporate Management
Committee) together on this one folks. I know lots of us do not like
the row, or bail, similies; but that's life at old Digital these days.
Look at the bright side, you could be working for the Post Office.
the Greyhawk
|
3553.16 | | NYOSS1::CATANIA | | Thu Dec 29 1994 16:20 | 2 |
| How about bringing back KO!
|
3553.17 | | HDLITE::SCHAFER | Mark Schafer, AXP-developer support | Thu Dec 29 1994 16:38 | 9 |
| Fine, so if we're not profitable in Q2, Bob Withers will vote out Bob
Palmer and somebody else (I forgot to look up the name) will nominate
KO. Anybody else going along with this "initiative"?
I recently heard about Chrylser's success in turning around their
business. It took 10 years. Maybe we should change that slogan that
BP started to "Please be patient, Digital is changing."
Mark
|
3553.18 | Who said anything about Q2? | TLE::VOGEL | | Thu Dec 29 1994 17:08 | 15 |
|
Re .9
>As reported by Reuters on May 6, 1994, "DEC chief executive Robert Palmer also
>set a deadline to have the company return to profitability by the end of the
>calendar year, the Wall Street Journal said."
>
>As reported by DJ-AP on July 26, "The company still has the goal of attaining
>profitability by the end of calendar 1994, Chief Executive Robert[sic] said in
>a teleconference with reporters."
All of Q2 occurs before the end of the calendar year, so I don't see how
you can expect Q2 to be profitable based upon the quotes here.
I read these quotes to mean that Q3 will show a profit.
Ed
|
3553.19 | depends on the vendor | DPDMAI::EYSTER | Fluoride&Prozac/NoCavities/No prob! | Fri Dec 30 1994 16:13 | 7 |
| I've been working with the third-party vendors. Basically, if they're
ex-Digital, they're pretty good. Otherwise, they're confused and
confusing, and very, very difficult to work with. Many have no way to
exchange e-mail, get software to a client, etc., making it very kludgey
to work with them.
mis dos centavos...Tex
|
3553.20 | A sign of good news to come? | MROA::oohyoo.mro.dec.com::WWILLIS | Wayne A. Willis, Computing and Networking Services | Tue Jan 17 1995 16:40 | 7 |
| DEC 37, change +0 3/4
DJIA 3920.90, change -11.40 at 15:45.
Report entered at Tue Jan 17 16:03:50 1995
|
3553.21 | Up 7/8 at close... | MARVA1::POWELL | Arranging bits for a living... | Tue Jan 17 1995 17:57 | 2 |
| DEC 37 1/8, change +0 7/8; DJIA 3930.60, change -1.70 at 16:00.
Report entered at Tue Jan 17 16:56:08 1995.
|
3553.22 | Q2 results. A profit! | NETCAD::NISKALA | This IS the year for the Huskers! | Wed Jan 18 1995 08:00 | 191 |
| [7m Digital reports second quarter profit
Digital today reported net income of $18.9 million, or 7 cents
per common share, for the second quarter which ended Dec. 31, 1994,
compared with a net loss of $72.1 million, or 53 cents per common
share, for the same period last year.
Total operating revenues for the quarter were $3.473 billion, up
seven percent from the $3.254 billion reported for the comparable
quarter a year ago.
Gross margin for the quarter was 33.1 percent, compared with 30.2
percent for the previous quarter and 36.1 percent for the comparable
period a year ago.
Total operating expenses decreased to $1.117 billion from $1.240
billion, or 10 percent, compared with the same period last year.
The balance sheet continued to strengthen and Digital ended the
quarter with $1.132 billion in cash.
The corporation completed the quarter with 65,600 employees -- a
reduction of 21,900 positions, or 25 percent, over the past 12 months.
Robert B. Palmer, president and chief executive officer said,
"Digital reached one of its most aggressive interim goals: achieving
operating profitability by the end of the 1994 calendar year.
"The changes we have made over the past two years -- and most
significantly over the past six months, especially with respect to our
core systems business -- have resulted in revenue growth and a much
improved cost structure," Palmer said. "Going forward, management will
continue to focus on these priorities: sustainable profitability,
continued cost discipline, generation of cash from operations, and
revenue growth. I am confident that we are on the right track toward
building a vital, energized and profitable Digital," he said.
[1m Product revenues increase [m
Product revenues were up 13 percent in the quarter to $1.870
billion from $1.660 billion in the second quarter of the previous year.
This represents the third consecutive quarter of year-over-year product
revenue growth. Service revenues were $1.603 billion, up slightly from
the $1.594 billion reported in the similar period last year.
Palmer said product orders showed strong growth in the quarter --
the fourth consecutive quarter of year-over-year growth.
"Demand for our industry-leading 64-bit Alpha systems,
Intel-based personal computer systems, network hardware and software
products and storage subsystems continued to be strong," he said. "We
recorded growth in both our domestic and international markets,
including very strong growth in our Asia/Pacific operations. In
addition, our European operations made excellent progress in
restructuring business operations and positioning for profitable
growth."
Palmer went on to say, "Alpha systems revenues grew more than 150
percent over the prior year, driven in part by strong demand for our
AlphaServer and AlphaStation product families, while personal computer
revenue growth continued to be among the industry leaders."
[1m Gross margins stabilize [m
Vincent J. Mullarkey, vice president and chief financial officer,
said, "We were able to stabilize gross margins in the first quarter and
have managed solid improvements, especially in the product area, in the
second quarter compared to the prior two quarters. Our gross margin
improvement program continues to have a favorable impact on our
financial results."
Product gross margin was 30.5 percent, compared with 25.5 percent
in the first quarter of fiscal 1995 and 33 percent in the comparable
period last year. Service gross margin was 36.1 percent compared with
35.5 percent in the first quarter of fiscal 1995 and 39.2 percent in
the comparable period last year.
During the quarter, the corporation reduced its population by
about 8,200 positions, or 11 percent, from 73,800 employees at the end
of the first quarter to 65,600.
Mullarkey said Digital continued to increase the portion of the
company's revenues generated through indirect channels. In the
quarter, 58 percent of product revenue was generated through indirect
channels, compared with 43 percent in the same quarter a year ago.
[1m New product lines introduced [m
During the quarter, Digital introduced new AlphaStation and
AlphaServer lines that incorporate advanced 64-bit microprocessor
technology with PC-style advantages. More than 6,400 applications are
available, with a choice of operating systems including DEC OSF/1
(UNIX), OpenVMS, and Windows NT.
In addition, the company unveiled its Pentium-based Prioris HX
line of highly-scalable PC servers along with two Digital HiNote
notebook families that redefine style and usability for mobile computer
users.
In November, Digital won two prestigious "Best of Comdex" awards.
Digital won "Most Significant Technology" for its demonstration of
Clusters for Windows NT servers and was honored in the "Best System"
category for its new Multia Multiclient Desktop. The company also was
a finalist with its AlphaServer 2100 4/275 system.
Also in the fall, Digital was chosen to manage the worldwide
client/server infrastructure for the Microsoft Network.
OPERATING RESULTS FOR THE THREE MONTHS ENDED
DECEMBER 31, 1994 JANUARY 1, 1994
(Q2 FY95) (Q2 FY94)
Product Sales $ 1,869,993,000 $ 1,659,924,000
Service & Other Revenues 1,603,266,000 1,594,155,000
Total Operating Revenues 3,473,259,000 3,254,079,000
Cost of Product Sales 1,300,280,000 1,112,292,000
Service & Other Expense 1,025,036,000 968,473,000
Total Cost of Sales 2,325,316,000 2,080,765,000
Research & Engineering 248,096,000 330,948,000
Selling, General & Admin. 869,157,000 908,688,000
Net Interest Expense 8,101,000 3,327,000
Income/(Loss) Before
Income Taxes 22,589,000 (69,649,000)
Provision for Income Taxes 3,707,000 2,495,000
Net Income/(Loss) $ 18,882,000 $ (72,144,000)
Dividend on Preferred Stock 8,875,000 ---
Net Income/(Loss) Applicable to
Common Stock 10,007,000 (72,144,000)
Weighted Average Shares
Outstanding 144,998,947 136,028,383
Net Income/(Loss) Per Common Share $ .07 $ (.53)
SIX MONTHS ENDED
DECEMBER 31, 1994 JANUARY 1, 1994
Product Sales $ 3,522,644,000 $ 3,216,928,000
Service & Other Revenues 3,073,087,000 3,052,099,000
Total Operating Revenues 6,595,731,000 6,269,027,000
Cost of Product Sales 2,530,946,000 2,093,707,000
Service & Other Expense 1,973,708,000 1,912,350,000
Total Cost of Sales 4,504,654,000 4,006,057,000
Research & Engineering 535,884,000 645,665,000
Selling, General & Admin. 1,705,524,000 1,780,895,000
Net Interest Expense 17,801,000 5,750,000
Loss Before Income Taxes &
Cumulative Effect of Change
in Accounting Principle (168,132,000) (169,340,000)
Provision for Income Taxes 8,059,000 6,031,000
Loss Before Cumulative Effect
of Change in Accounting
Principle (176,191,000) (175,371,000)
Cumulative Effect of Change in
Accounting Principle (64,503,000) 51,026,000
Net Loss $ (111,688,000) (226,397,000)
Dividends on Preferred Stock 17,750,000 ---
Net Loss Applicable to
Common Stock (129,438,000) (226,397,000)
Weighted Average Shares
Outstanding 142,692,716 135,519,380
Loss Per Common Share
Before Cumulative Effect of
Change in Accounting Principle $ (1.36) $ (1.29)
Earnings Per Common Share on Cumulative
Effect of Change in Accounting
Principle .45 (.38)
Net Loss Per Common Share $ (.91) $ (1.67)
SELECTED BALANCE SHEET/CASH FLOW DATA - Q2FY95
BALANCE SHEET:
CASH & CASH EQUIVALENTS........................ $ 1,132,178,000
ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE, NET....................... 2,918,332,000
A/R DAYS SALES OUTSTANDING 76 DAYS
INVENTORIES: RAW MATERIALS...............$621,381,000
WORK-IN-PROCESS............. 511,405,000
FINISHED GOODS.............. 993,931,000
TOTAL......................... 2,126,717,000
PREPAID EXPENSES AND DEFERRED INCOME TAXES..... 335,330,000
TOTAL CURRENT ASSETS.............. 6,512,557,000
NET PROPERTY, PLANT & EQUIPMENT................ 2,648,303,000
OTHER ASSETS, NET.............................. 459,871,000
TOTAL ASSETS................................... 9,620,731,000
BANK LOANS AND CURRENT PORTION OF LTD.......... 7,993,000
ACCRUED RESTRUCTURING COSTS.................... 888,610,000
TOTAL CURRENT LIABILITIES...................... 4,202,481,000
NONCURRENT DEFERRED INCOME TAXES............... 4,758,000
LONG-TERM DEBT................................. 1,010,811,000
POSTRETIREMENT AND POSTEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS .... 1,171,852,000
TOTAL LIABILITIES.............................. 6,389,902,000
STOCKHOLDERS' EQUITY........................... 3,230,829,000
BOOK VALUE PER COMMON SHARE........................ $ 19.30
NON U.S. REVENUES .............................QTR 2,264,661,000
OR 65%
YTD 4,191,991,000
OR 64%
EMPLOYEE POPULATION ........................... 65,600
|
3553.23 | and the good news is .... | OTOOA::MOWBRAY | This isn't a job its an Adventure | Wed Jan 18 1995 08:03 | 8 |
| Livewire has the *Profitable* Q2 results. Hence the stock rise
although the book value is shown down around $19 or so. I looked
pretty quickly, but did not see references to the Oracle and Quantum
sales as "special" items and assume that these are not reported in the
operating results.
In any case, in spite of all of the other stuff going on, I think we
should all give a yippee!
|
3553.24 | Where *do* the Oracle and Quantum deals get reported? | TOOK::BEERMAN | Charlie Beerman | Wed Jan 18 1995 08:12 | 14 |
| > <<< Note 3553.23 by OTOOA::MOWBRAY "This isn't a job its an Adventure" >>>
> -< and the good news is .... >-
>
> Livewire has the *Profitable* Q2 results. Hence the stock rise
> although the book value is shown down around $19 or so. I looked
> pretty quickly, but did not see references to the Oracle and Quantum
> sales as "special" items and assume that these are not reported in the
> operating results.
Can someone knowledgable in accounting principles confirm that the
Oracle and Quantum sales are not included in the results? (I know
next to nothing about accounting and have no idea how these get
reported. Obviously they have to get reported *somewhere* to account
for the increase in the amount of cash we have.)
|
3553.25 | So why did cost of product sales increase? | STAR::DZIEDZIC | Tony Dziedzic - DTN 381-2438 | Wed Jan 18 1995 08:19 | 5 |
| So can anyone explain why the cost of product sales INCREASED by
$200,000,000 over the comparable FY94 quarter? That's roughly
the same amount by which product sales increased. Not being a
finance whiz, am I wrong in thinking the cost of product sales
should be dropping and not increasing?
|
3553.26 | I am not an accountant | MRKTNG::BROCK | Son of a Beech | Wed Jan 18 1995 08:55 | 8 |
| Orackle and Quantum sales affect only the balance sheet - cash will go
up to reflect the sale. This does not affect the income statement. The
income statement is intended to show the results of the company doing
businss. Selling divisions is not a normal part of doing business. So,
the results are even better than might be imagined as they reflect the
results of ongoing operations. Not as good yet as they need to be, but
clearly directionally significant.
|
3553.27 | only a guess | GRANPA::MWANNEMACHER | Space for rent | Wed Jan 18 1995 08:57 | 6 |
|
RE: .35 Our advertising campaign?
Mike
|
3553.28 | | YIELD::HARRIS | | Wed Jan 18 1995 09:06 | 20 |
| > So can anyone explain why the cost of product sales INCREASED by
> $200,000,000 over the comparable FY94 quarter? That's roughly
> the same amount by which product sales increased. Not being a
> finance whiz, am I wrong in thinking the cost of product sales
> should be dropping and not increasing?
The new products that we introduce (PC's, Alphastations and
Alphaservers) have lower margins than the products that they replace.
This means that when we sell a $15K Alphastation Digital might only
see 20% as profit. Last year when we sold a $15K DEC3000 we might
have made a 30% profit. The number we need to see go down is "Selling,
General & Admin." this is the nonproduct based cost of sales.
-Bruce
ps. I'm not an accountant and don't play one on TV.
|
3553.29 | | CONSLT::OWEN | Stop Global Whining | Wed Jan 18 1995 10:14 | 9 |
| re .25... what .28 said. Cost of sales includes raw materials and
such. Sell more products and that number should rise. That's the
good news. That bad news is that the margins are so low, we're barely
breaking even, even though we're making/selling more.
It's nice not to see () around the bottom line number.
-Steve
|
3553.30 | Two *Very Big* Sales? 8-) 8-) | SPECXN::WITHERS | Bob Withers | Wed Jan 18 1995 11:06 | 7 |
| Maybe we counted the Oracle and Quantum sales as two *very big* sales and the
increas in COGS reflectes the lawyers' fees 8-) 8-) 8-)
Seriously, I've tried finding the quarterly results *with* the balance sheet
and have struck out. Does anyone know where/if it is on the net?
BobW
|
3553.31 | Roller Coaster Ride ? | DASPHB::PBAXTER | | Wed Jan 18 1995 11:26 | 18 |
| Anyone have any idea about this roller coaster ride ???
Yesterday Jan 17th
DEC 37 1/2, change +1 1/4
DEC 39 1/8, change +1 5/8; DJIA 3928.30, change -2.30 at 10:10.
Report entered at Wed Jan 18 10:12:08 1995.
DEC 38 1/8, change +1; DJIA 3927.30, change -3.30 at 10:11.
Report entered at Wed Jan 18 10:33:28 1995.
DEC 37 7/8, change +0 3/4; DJIA 3927.60, change -3.00 at 10:20.
Report entered at Wed Jan 18 10:42:14 1995.
DEC 37, change -0 1/8; DJIA 3927.30, change -3.30 at 10:47.
Report entered at Wed Jan 18 11:08:33 1995.
|
3553.32 | results with a balance sheet attached | NETCAD::NISKALA | This IS the year for the Huskers! | Wed Jan 18 1995 11:50 | 246 |
| From: LKGMTS::LKGMTS::MRGATE::"MRMTS::SALES::A1::PRESS" 18-JAN-1995 11:06:35.34
To: @Distribution_List
CC:
Subj: Digital Reports Second Quarter Profit 1
From: NAME: Press Releases
FUNC:
TEL: <PRESS AT A1 at SALES at MRO>
To: See Below
DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION REPORTS SECOND QUARTER PROFIT
Investor Contact: Bob Hult
(508) 493-7182
Media Contact: Dan Kaferle
(508) 493-2195
MAYNARD, Mass. -- January 18, 1995 -- Digital Equipment Corporation
(NYSE:DEC) today reported net income of $18.9 million, or $.07 per common
share, for the second quarter which ended Dec. 31, 1994, compared with a
net loss of $72.1 million, or $.53 per common share, for the same period
last year.
Total operating revenues for the quarter were $3.473 billion, up seven
percent from the $3.254 billion reported for the comparable quarter a year
ago.
Gross margin for the quarter was 33.1 percent, compared with 30.2 percent
for the previous quarter and 36.1 percent for the comparable period a year
ago.
Total operating expenses decreased to $1.117 billion from $1.240 billion,
or 10 percent, compared with the same period last year.
The balance sheet continued to strengthen and Digital ended the quarter
with $1.132 billion in cash.
The Corporation completed the quarter with 65,600 employees -- a reduction
of 21,900 positions, or 25 percent, over the past 12 months.
Robert B. Palmer, president and chief executive officer said, "Digital
reached one of its most aggressive interim goals: achieving operating
profitability by the end of the 1994 calendar year.
"The changes we have made over the past two years -- and most significantly
over the past six months, especially with respect to our core systems
business -- have resulted in revenue growth and a much improved cost
structure," Palmer said. "Going forward, management will continue to focus
on these priorities: sustainable profitability, continued cost discipline,
generation of cash from operations, and revenue growth. I am confident that
we are on the right track toward building a vital, energized and profitable
Digital," he said.
Product revenues were up 13 percent in the quarter to $1.870 billion from
$1.660 billion in the second quarter of the previous year. This represents
the third consecutive quarter of year-over-year product revenue growth.
Service revenues were $1.603 billion, up slightly from the $1.594 billion
reported in the similar period last year.
Palmer said product orders showed strong growth in the quarter -- the
fourth consecutive quarter of year-over-year growth.
"Demand for our industry-leading 64-bit Alpha systems, Intel based personal
computer systems, network hardware and software products and storage
subsystems continued to be strong," he said. "We recorded growth in both
our domestic and international markets, including very strong growth in our
Asia/Pacific operations. In addition, our European operations made
excellent progress in restructuring business operations and positioning for
profitable growth."
Palmer went on to say, "Alpha systems revenues grew more than 150 percent
over the prior year, driven in part by strong demand for our AlphaServer
and AlphaStation product families, while personal computer revenue growth
continued to be among the industry leaders."
Vincent J. Mullarkey, vice president and chief financial officer, said, "We
were able to stabilize gross margins in the first quarter and have managed
solid improvements, especially in the product area, in the second quarter
compared to the prior two quarters. Our gross margin improvement program
continues to have a favorable impact on our financial results."
Product gross margin was 30.5 percent, compared with 25.5 percent in the
first quarter of fiscal 1995 and 33 percent in the comparable period last
year. Service gross margin was 36.1 percent compared with 35.5 percent in
the first quarter of fiscal 1995 and 39.2 percent in the comparable period
last year.
During the quarter, the Corporation reduced its population by about 8,200
positions, or 11 percent, from 73,800 employees at the end of the first
quarter to 65,600.
Mullarkey said Digital continued to increase the portion of the company's
revenues generated through indirect channels. In the quarter, 58 percent of
product revenue was generated through indirect channels, compared with 43
percent in the same quarter a year ago.
During the quarter, Digital introduced new AlphaStation and AlphaServer
lines that incorporate advanced 64-bit microprocessor technology with
PC-style advantages. More than 6,400 applications are available, with a
choice of operating systems including DEC OSF/1 (UNIX), OpenVMS, and
Windows NT.
In addition, the company unveiled its Pentium-based Prioris HX line of
highly-scalable PC servers along with two Digital HiNote notebook families
that redefine style and usability for mobile computer users.
In November, Digital won two prestigious "Best of Comdex" awards. Digital
won "Most Significant Technology" for its demonstration of Clusters for
Windows NT servers and in the "Best System" category for its new Multia
Multiclient Desktop. The company also was a finalist with its AlphaServer
2100 4/275 system.
Also in the fall, Digital was chosen to manage the worldwide client/server
infrastructure for the Microsoft Network.
Digital Equipment Corporation is the world's leader in open client/server
solutions from personal computing to integrated worldwide information
systems. Digital's scalable Alpha platforms, storage, networking, software
and services, together with industry-focused solutions from business
partners, help organizations compete and win in today's global marketplace.
####
Note to Editors: Digital, the Digital logo, DEC, Prioris, HiNote,
AlphaServer, AlphaStation and OpenVMS are
trademarks of Digital Equipment Corporation.
Windows NT is a registered trademark of Microsoft
Corporation.
UNIX is a registered trademark in the United
States and other countries, licensed exclusively
through X/Open Company, Ltd.
Intel is a trademark of Intel Corporation.
OSF/1 is a registered trademark of the Open
Software Foundation, Inc.
CORP/95/777
THREE MONTHS ENDED
DECEMBER 31, 1994 JANUARY 1, 1994
(Q2 FY95) (Q2 FY94)
PRODUCT SALES $ 1,869,993,000 $ 1,659,924,000
SERVICE & OTHER REVENUES 1,603,266,000 1,594,155,000
TOTAL OPERATING REVENUES 3,473,259,000 3,254,079,000
COST OF PRODUCT SALES 1,300,280,000 1,112,292,000
SERVICE & OTHER EXPENSE 1,025,036,000 968,473,000
TOTAL COST OF SALES 2,325,316,000 2,080,765,000
RESEARCH & ENGINEERING 248,096,000 330,948,000
SELLING, GENERAL & ADMIN. 869,157,000 908,688,000
NET INTEREST EXPENSE 8,101,000 3,327,000
INCOME/(LOSS) BEFORE
INCOME TAXES 22,589,000 (69,649,000)
PROVISION FOR INCOME TAXES 3,707,000 2,495,000
NET INCOME/(LOSS) $ 18,882,000 $ (72,144,000)
DIVIDEND ON PREFERRED STOCK 8,875,000 ---
NET INCOME/(LOSS) APPLICABLE TO
COMMON STOCK 10,007,000 (72,144,000)
WEIGHTED AVERAGE SHARES
OUTSTANDING 144,998,947 136,028,383
NET INCOME/(LOSS) PER COMMON SHARE $ .07 $ (.53)
SIX MONTHS ENDED
DECEMBER 31, 1994 JANUARY 1, 1994
PRODUCT SALES $ 3,522,644,000 $ 3,216,928,000
SERVICE & OTHER REVENUES 3,073,087,000 3,052,099,000
TOTAL OPERATING REVENUES 6,595,731,000 6,269,027,000
COST OF PRODUCT SALES 2,530,946,000 2,093,707,000
SERVICE & OTHER EXPENSE 1,973,708,000 1,912,350,000
TOTAL COST OF SALES 4,504,654,000 4,006,057,000
RESEARCH & ENGINEERING 535,884,000 645,665,000
SELLING, GENERAL & ADMIN. 1,705,524,000 1,780,895,000
NET INTEREST EXPENSE 17,801,000 5,750,000
LOSS BEFORE INCOME TAXES &
CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF CHANGE
IN ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLE (168,132,000) (169,340,000)
PROVISION FOR INCOME TAXES 8,059,000 6,031,000
LOSS BEFORE CUMULATIVE EFFECT
OF CHANGE IN ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLE(176,191,000) (175,371,000)
CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF CHANGE IN
ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLE (64,503,000) 51,026,000
NET LOSS $ (111,688,000) (226,397,000)
DIVIDENDS ON PREFERRED STOCK 17,750,000 ---
NET LOSS APPLICABLE TO
COMMON STOCK (129,438,000) (226,397,000)
WEIGHTED AVERAGE SHARES
OUTSTANDING 142,692,716 135,519,380
LOSS PER COMMON SHARE
BEFORE CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF
CHANGE IN ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLE $ (1.36) $ (1.29)
EARNINGS PER COMMON SHARE ON CUMULATIVE
EFFECT OF CHANGE IN ACCOUNTING
PRINCIPLE .45 (.38)
NET LOSS PER COMMON SHARE $ (.91) $ (1.67)
SELECTED BALANCE SHEET/CASH FLOW DATA - Q2FY95
BALANCE SHEET:
CASH & CASH EQUIVALENTS........................ $ 1,132,178,000
ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE, NET....................... 2,918,332,000
A/R DAYS SALES OUTSTANDING 76 DAYS
INVENTORIES: RAW MATERIALS...............$621,381,000
WORK-IN-PROCESS............. 511,405,000
FINISHED GOODS.............. 993,931,000
TOTAL......................... 2,126,717,000
PREPAID EXPENSES AND DEFERRED INCOME TAXES..... 335,330,000
TOTAL CURRENT ASSETS.............. 6,512,557,000
NET PROPERTY, PLANT & EQUIPMENT................ 2,648,303,000
OTHER ASSETS, NET.............................. 459,871,000
TOTAL ASSETS................................... 9,620,731,000
BANK LOANS AND CURRENT PORTION OF LTD.......... 7,993,000
ACCRUED RESTRUCTURING COSTS.................... 888,610,000
TOTAL CURRENT LIABILITIES...................... 4,202,481,000
NONCURRENT DEFERRED INCOME TAXES............... 4,758,000
LONG-TERM DEBT................................. 1,010,811,000
POSTRETIREMENT AND POSTEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS .... 1,171,852,000
TOTAL LIABILITIES.............................. 6,389,902,000
STOCKHOLDERS' EQUITY........................... 3,230,829,000
BOOK VALUE PER COMMON SHARE........................ $ 19.30
NON U.S. REVENUES .............................QTR 2,264,661,000
OR 65%
YTD 4,191,991,000
OR 64%
EMPLOYEE POPULATION ........................... 65,600
|
3553.33 | Other experts? | DECC::VOGEL | | Wed Jan 18 1995 12:31 | 11 |
|
Could someone explain why Service and other expenses have
gone up since last year.
SG&A, and Engineering expense is down, yet cost of services is
up (Far more than the revenue from services is up).
Ed
|
3553.34 | From the Dept. of Guesswork | WELSWS::HILLN | It's OK, it'll be dark by nightfall | Wed Jan 18 1995 12:46 | 10 |
| Let me guess why the cost of service has risen...
They've let go so many engineers that the survivors are incurring much
larger travel and associated costs.
The other cause of a cost increase is the continued escalation in parts
cost for each service call. When we were changing components the parts
cost was, as a proportion, very low. Then we started changing borads
and now its units. So whilst the technician cost has dropped the
material cost has rocketed.
|
3553.35 | The Wall Street Way | MIMS::SANDERS_J | | Wed Jan 18 1995 13:14 | 6 |
| re. 31
"Buy on the rumor, sell on the news"
That is how it is done on Wall Street.
|
3553.36 | how many left ? | SWAM1::MEUSE_DA | | Wed Jan 18 1995 16:47 | 11 |
|
The memo in vtx states we are down to a population of 65,600.
I thought that was the goal by June 95.
Or was it 6,500?
any comments.
|
3553.37 | | DONVAN::FARINA | | Wed Jan 18 1995 17:38 | 5 |
| My only comment re: 65,600 employees is that Palmer promised us in a
DVN that he would do everything in his power to reach that number by
the end of December, to put an end to the downsizing as quickly as
possible. Perhaps he kept his word? --S
|
3553.38 | ..... | SWAM1::MEUSE_DA | | Wed Jan 18 1995 17:55 | 6 |
|
thx, forgot about that dvn.
We didn't do as great a Chrysler, but it's still good news for a
change.
|
3553.39 | Sorry to rain on the parade... | SHIPS::HOUK_D | | Thu Jan 19 1995 08:19 | 3 |
| Bob Palmer was quoted in the con call with analysts as saying that he
anticipated further cuts, "down to about 60,000 by the end of the
fiscal year."
|
3553.40 | can't squeeze us much more | NCMAIL::JAMESS | | Thu Jan 19 1995 08:23 | 7 |
| We have lost 2 more from the Corning office in Q3. One to TFSO and one
to attrition. Four years ago we had 30 people in this office. We now
have 4 service engineers, a logistics person 3 days a week and 2
salesmen working from their homes. It is not unusual for me to work all
day and not see another Digital employee.
Steve J.
|
3553.41 | It's only numbers. | RICKS::PHIPPS | DTN 225.4959 | Thu Jan 19 1995 08:51 | 14 |
| > My only comment re: 65,600 employees is that Palmer promised us in a
> DVN that he would do everything in his power to reach that number by
> the end of December, to put an end to the downsizing as quickly as
> possible. Perhaps he kept his word? --S
Heard him on NPR on the way home last night saying he expected the number
to be down to 60,000 or so by the end of this fiscal year. That would be
down about 58,138 since I wrote down some numbers about two years ago.
It broke down to 12,481 in Engineering, 29,510 in Manufacturing and 76,147
in "the field"... whatever that meant. You know how those presentations
go.
mikeP
|
3553.42 | possible explanation | ODIXIE::HUNT | Remember your chains are gone | Thu Jan 19 1995 08:54 | 12 |
| >The memo in vtx states we are down to a population of 65,600.
>I thought that was the goal by June 95.
The way I understood it was that any business sold off would lower the
65k number. So, if we sold off a business with 5000 employees, then
the number would become 60k. The rationale is that we would also be
selling off the revenue that goes with that business, so to get to a
certain revenue/employ. the 65k number would need to be lowered.
Bing
|
3553.44 | one potato, two potato... | AIRBAG::SWATKO | Livin' in the Land of the Lost | Thu Jan 19 1995 10:41 | 4 |
| Regarding 65K employees... Since the SLT changed their metrics, contractors
are no longer figured into headcount statistics. That's what I heard.
-Mike
|
3553.45 | Phantom Profit? | ROWLET::AINSLEY | Less than 150 kts. is TOO slow! | Thu Jan 19 1995 11:01 | 20 |
| The following reply has been contributed by a member of our community
who wishes to remain anonymous. If you wish to contact the author by
mail, please send your message to ROWLET::AINSLEY, specifying the
conference name and note number. Your message will be forwarded with
your name attached unless you request otherwise.
Bob - Co-moderator DIGITAL
==========================================================================
Perhaps I'm missing something, not being an accountant and all...
Is the ~$400M that was received for gutting the company and selling the
database products and storage capacity part of what made this $18M
profit? If so, isn't the "profit" a huge farce, artificially created
by throwing away assets at less-than firesale prices? Doesn't it just
mean that the remainder of the company just had a $382M LOSS? What
will get sold next quarter to make it look like a profit - VMS? OSF?
|
3553.46 | Only the Profit on the Sale would show up | DASPHB::PBAXTER | | Thu Jan 19 1995 11:14 | 25 |
| re. 45
> Is the ~$400M that was received for gutting the company and selling the
> database products and storage capacity part of what made this $18M
> profit? If so, isn't the "profit" a huge farce, artificially created
> by throwing away assets at less-than firesale prices? Doesn't it just
> mean that the remainder of the company just had a $382M LOSS? What
> will get sold next quarter to make it look like a profit - VMS? OSF?
I my previous education as an accountant ...
Only the profit from the sale of this business would ever be
recognized in any Profit/Loss Income statement... but then only
as an extraordinary Gain/Loss which would be called out on a
separate line item.
ei: If the book value of the business that we sold was $390M and
we sold it for $400M then an extraordinary gain of $10M would
be recorded on a special separate line on the income statement.
Same for a loss ... if the book value was $410M ... Loss of $10M.
The real trick is trying to figure out what the real book value of the
business and its assets was. I have heard that this was impossible
because many of the asstes etc. were shared with other businesses still
in Digital.
Phil
|
3553.47 | sell-offs not represented in operating P&L | SMURF::STRANGE | Steve Strange - DEC OSF/1 DCE DFS | Thu Jan 19 1995 11:16 | 10 |
| re: .45
> Is the ~$400M that was received for gutting the company and selling the
> database products and storage capacity part of what made this $18M
> profit?
No, I don't believe it is. It contributed to the >$1B in cash that
Digital now has, though. Same with the storage sell-off.
Steve
|
3553.48 | Sour Grapes! | MIMS::SANDERS_J | | Thu Jan 19 1995 12:12 | 13 |
| re. 43
If our earnings were "inflated" by currency exchange fluctuations, then
so were IBM, HP and SUN. They all do a lot of business overseas.
That statement, as for as I am concerned, should be attributed to a
bunch of analyst who were far off the mark in estimating Digital's
earnings and used this as an excuse for their poor analysis. They were
embarrassed. How many of you noticed any remarks about this
"fluctuation" in any of the competing vendors earnings reports.
Sour grapes!
|
3553.49 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Thu Jan 19 1995 12:14 | 8 |
| The Globe story said, as was mentioned here earlier, that the drop mid-day
was "buy on the rumor, sell on the news". You can see this happening
almost everywhere.
My question is - what does it say to employees when the company turned a
profit and Palmer says that we still have to give the boot to another 10%?
Steve
|
3553.50 | | NETCAD::SHERMAN | Steve NETCAD::Sherman DTN 226-6992, LKG2-A/R05 pole AA2 | Thu Jan 19 1995 12:28 | 9 |
| >My question is - what does it say to employees when the company turned
>a profit and Palmer says that we still have to give the boot to
>another 10%?
To me, it sounds like the sink has been fixed so the brain drain will
run more efficiently. :( It's going to be more appealing to hire
talent from a profitable company ...
Steve
|
3553.51 | | DPDMAI::EYSTER | Fluoride&Prozac/NoCavities/No prob! | Thu Jan 19 1995 12:59 | 2 |
| Remeber Catch-22 when the Colonel kept raising the number of missions
on Yossarian?
|
3553.52 | | YIELD::HARRIS | | Thu Jan 19 1995 13:06 | 21 |
| > Perhaps I'm missing something, not being an accountant and all...
>
> Is the ~$400M that was received for gutting the company and selling the
> database products and storage capacity part of what made this $18M
> profit? If so, isn't the "profit" a huge farce, artificially created
> by throwing away assets at less-than firesale prices? Doesn't it just
> mean that the remainder of the company just had a $382M LOSS? What
> will get sold next quarter to make it look like a profit - VMS? OSF?
I am going to try and make the answer as simple as possible. When you
sell an asset(like part of our storage business) for cash you deduct
the value of the physical asset from a line on the balance sheet
and in this case add the money to "CASH & CASH EQUIVALENTS". If you
sell the asset for what you had been carrying it on your books for it
is this simple. If you sell it for more or less, you would then have a
profit or loss. In Q4 of FY94 we wrote off some $300M this could have
had something to do with the asset sales. The sales happening this
quarter probably didn't have much of an effect on this quarter other
than the reduction in headcount.
-Bruce
|
3553.53 | | YIELD::HARRIS | | Thu Jan 19 1995 13:10 | 9 |
| >My question is - what does it say to employees when the company turned
>a profit and Palmer says that we still have to give the boot to
>another 10%?
That $19M profit on $3.5B in revenue isn't really acceptable?
-Bruce
|
3553.54 | | VANGA::KERRELL | DECUS UK Paper Deadline=20/1/95 | Fri Jan 20 1995 04:01 | 5 |
| I would have thought further employee number reductions will happen in
countries where they are behind the rest of the corporation in reorganising
due to local laws. Germany and France spring to mind.
Dave.
|
3553.55 | | BHAJEE::JAERVINEN | Ora, the Old Rural Amateur | Fri Jan 20 1995 04:37 | 10 |
| re .54:
�I would have thought further employee number reductions will happen in
�countries where they are behind the rest of the corporation in reorganising
�due to local laws. Germany and France spring to mind.
Please don't suggest further reductions in Germany - we've down from
almost 9000 to something like 2300 (and that's not counting the closed
factory in Kaufbeuren). Come back when you've reached the same
percentage in US.
|
3553.56 | | PASTIS::MONAHAN | humanity is a trojan horse | Fri Jan 20 1995 04:56 | 3 |
| DEC France has 150 more volunteers for redundancy than they want,
and are currently discussing with the union how to decide which 150 to
refuse redundancy to. I think that is the reason for the current delay.
|
3553.57 | sustainable or one time shot? | XANADU::SCHUTZMAN | Mobile and Moving | Fri Jan 20 1995 06:38 | 8 |
| This weeks Business Week contains an article on IBM, which basically
states that inspite of making close to $3 billion in profits this year
they are in trouble because the percentage of revenue they get from big
iron has increased.
Since we Digital also make a lot of money in the traditional "big iron"
market, does anyone have any idea how much of our profit was due to
what looks like a one time upswing in traditional markets?
|
3553.58 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Fri Jan 20 1995 09:25 | 4 |
| We don't move much "big iron" at all. Sales of the VAX/DEC 10000 series have
been rather slow. It's the low end which is shipping all we can make.
Steve
|
3553.59 | | USDEV::BALSAMO | | Fri Jan 20 1995 09:44 | 12 |
|
re: 3553.56 <PASTIS::MONAHAN>
>DEC France has 150 more volunteers for redundancy than they want, and are
>currently discussing with the union how to decide which 150 to refuse
>redundancy to. I think that is the reason for the current delay.
Gee, either work conditions (read moral) are so bad, or it must be a
heck of a severance package being offered for 150 too many people to
volunteer.
Tony
|
3553.60 | It's all according to where you are | WELSWS::HILLN | It's OK, it'll be dark by nightfall | Fri Jan 20 1995 09:55 | 5 |
| Re .59
Bad morale - yes
Good package - by DEC GMA/US standards, possibly
by French local standards. not sure
|
3553.61 | | PCBUOA::KRATZ | | Fri Jan 20 1995 15:39 | 8 |
| re .48
>If our earnings were "inflated" by currency exchange fluctuations,
>then so were IBM, HP, and Sun.
Probably true: Sun income was up 85% on 30% better revenue,
for example. As Sun, Apple (income up 300+%, margins up 5%),
and others in the computer industry report, suddenly our report
doesn't look so stellar. kb
|
3553.62 | some do, some do not. | RANGER::BRADLEY | Chuck Bradley | Fri Jan 20 1995 18:59 | 31 |
|
re .48
>If our earnings were "inflated" by currency exchange fluctuations,
>then so were IBM, HP, and Sun.
and .61
Probably true: Sun income was up 85% on 30% better revenue,
for example. As Sun, Apple (income up 300+%, margins up 5%),
and others in the computer industry report, suddenly our report
doesn't look so stellar. kb
Not necessarily. Different organizations can use different strategies
to handle currency exchange fluctuations. Some organizations use
the fluctuations as a way to make more money. If they are skillful at
predicting the changes, they can make a lot of money. If they are not
skillful, they can lose a lot. Others use futures contracts to protect
themselves from loss. They then can not make any money either, and also
incur a tiny fee for the protection, very much like an insurance premium.
Mixed strategies are also possible. For each currency and each business
unit, some fraction of the money can be handled actively and the rest
insured.
Sometimes you can learn something about an organization by how they
handle their currency exchanges. Those that avoid risk in exchanges
have extra energy to devote to their core business and their income
stream tends to be more predictable. Those that think it is a core
competency, tend to accept the risks and manage the exchanges actively.
International banks almost have to consider it a core competency.
Successful computer companies might use any of the strategies.
|
3553.63 | | VANGA::KERRELL | DECUS Partners Exhibition 15-18 May | Mon Jan 23 1995 03:36 | 12 |
| re.55:
> Please don't suggest further reductions in Germany - we've down from
> almost 9000 to something like 2300 (and that's not counting the closed
> factory in Kaufbeuren). Come back when you've reached the same
> percentage in US.
I wasn't suggesting further reductions, merely refering to the problems
Digital had encountered in some countries due to local laws, I was not
aware that Germany was now inline with corporate wishes.
Dave (not US but UK!)
|
3553.64 | | BHAJEE::JAERVINEN | Ora, the Old Rural Amateur | Mon Jan 23 1995 04:22 | 6 |
| �aware that Germany was now inline with corporate wishes.
Seems like the "corporate wishes" for Germany were more stringent than
for many other countries (I wouldn't dare to say, of course, that it
might partially be due to earlier corporate mistakes).
|
3553.66 | Where Is Wall Street Anyways ???? | DASPHB::PBAXTER | | Wed Jan 25 1995 10:00 | 12 |
| Now that we have made a profitable quarter !!
So why doesn't Wall Street Love us anymorw ? (:-{)
DEC 33 5/8, change -0 5/8; DJIA 3874.40, change +7.00 at 15:04.
Report entered at Tue Jan 24 15:30:07 1995.
**************************************************************
DEC 32 1/8, change -1 1/2; DJIA 3852.90, change -9.80 at 9:45.
Report entered at Wed Jan 25 09:59:05 1995.
**************************************************************
|
3553.67 | IBM coattails, again... ? maybe??? | GRANPA::JWOOD | | Wed Jan 25 1995 10:18 | 1 |
|
|
3553.68 | IBM: 4 straight profitable Qs and counting... | REMQHI::NICHOLS | | Wed Jan 25 1995 10:36 | 4 |
| > -< IBM coattails, again... ? maybe??? >-
Let's see: IBM's *profit* for this quarter was 1.4 *billion* dollars.
What was ours again? (And BTW, IBM is still in the software business)
|
3553.69 | corporate aims? | BELLS::LEVY | The Bloodhound | Wed Jan 25 1995 11:32 | 7 |
| Now that digital has met its aim of being profitable
by December 1994, what is it going for? Is there an
articulated profit target for the rest of the year and
beyond, or is digital just happy NOT to be losing money?
Malcolm
|
3553.70 | How about two quarters in a row? | WLDBIL::KILGORE | Missed Woodstock -- *twice*! | Wed Jan 25 1995 11:52 | 1 |
|
|
3553.71 | Patience is a virtue! | MIMS::SANDERS_J | | Wed Jan 25 1995 15:05 | 26 |
| re. 66
Perhaps the stock got ahead of itself. The market is usually looking
ahead 12 months.
At an annualized rate, the $0.07/share profit works out to $0.28 for
the year. At a $32/share stock price, that works out to a
price/earnings (PE) ratio of 114. Since the market is trading at a PE
of 17, Digital is a bit pricey. However, the market looks out 12
months. If the stock holds at around $32, and the market PE remains
around 17, then analyst are expecting Digital to be earning around
$2/share on an annualized basis 12 months from now.
In late August/early September, on CNBC, Dan Dorfman reported on a
private investor who had purchased $50 million in Digital stock. The
investor had a strike price of $50/share by August 1995.
Since all stocks do not trade at the market PE (Home Depot, Microsoft,
Intel), but much higher, Digital could also trade higher (NOT 114).
However, when a stock is trading at a PE ratio that is 4 or 5 times the
market, the least little disappointment in earnings or sales will send
the top down swiftly.
Again, maybe the stock just got a little ahead of itself. Patience is
a virtue.
|
3553.72 | What did we say? | KOALA::HAMNQVIST | Reorg city | Wed Jan 25 1995 18:11 | 13 |
| If DEC did get ahead of itself it was on a combination of rumours and
facts provided by analysts. As far as I recall the predictions that
helped propell the stock to around $36 were worse than what we actually
did report at Q2. By now we must be seeing the effects of investors
cutting losses as opposed to short-sellers dumping?
Somehow I have this nagging feeling that our Q2 report or the
way by which we communicated it contained negatives worse than those
that contributed to analyst forcasts of -$.28/share. What did we
say that was not expected? Or what did we not say that was expected?
What would we have had to do to maintain the price at $36?
>Per
|
3553.73 | Other earnings reports have been announced and... | ATLANT::SCHMIDT | E&RT -- Embedded and RealTime Engineering | Thu Jan 26 1995 09:33 | 5 |
| Everybody else in the computer industry made a bundle.
We made a pittance.
Atlant
|
3553.74 | | MAIL2::CRANE | | Thu Jan 26 1995 10:09 | 5 |
| The way I look at it over all is we had to come up with 72 mill to
brake even and add 18 mil to that for a total of 90 mil. So I look
closer at the 90 mil than the 18 mil.
But this is probably just me.
|
3553.75 | Let's Settle all our disputes in a Court of Law ;-} | DASPHB::PBAXTER | | Thu Jan 26 1995 10:45 | 6 |
| Some people are rumoring that the the profits were due in a large part
to currency situations that were favorable to Digital.
I don't know how this could be proven true or untrue...
Maybe we can get Marcia Clark and Johnnie Cochran (of O.J. fame)
to argue the evidence. ;-}
|
3553.76 | not sustainable | PCBUOA::RIPLEY | | Thu Jan 26 1995 10:53 | 5 |
|
We reported a profit...stock went up...Palmer says we can't sustain
the profit...stock goes back down...pretty simple relationship
here. Tha's the way i interpret it.
|
3553.77 | | KOALA::HAMNQVIST | Reorg city | Thu Jan 26 1995 12:00 | 8 |
| | We reported a profit...stock went up...Palmer says we can't sustain
| the profit...stock goes back down...pretty simple relationship
| here. Tha's the way i interpret it.
Did Palmer really say that or was he just unwilling to turn his
objectives unto a prediction or committment?
>Per
|
3553.78 | Couch change... | FROM::FERJULIAN | PK03-1/R11 DTN:223-4887 | Thu Jan 26 1995 16:52 | 4 |
| Profit... what profit....!
The ratio of xx made on sales of xx, is like you and me finding change
in the couch.
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3553.79 | | ODIXIE::MOREAU | Ken Moreau;Sales Support;South FL | Thu Jan 26 1995 19:31 | 22 |
| RE: .78 -< Couch change... >-
> The ratio of xx made on sales of xx, is like you and me finding change
> in the couch.
You are right about that. But I believe that the fact (however welcome) that
we made a profit this quarter is not what is making most people feel good. It
is instead the fact that all of the numbers are heading in the right direction.
General revenue is up, Alpha revenue is up, net margin is better (not as much
because of the different product mix, but it is still better), SG&A is down,
money in the bank is better, etc. And this is not just in Q2. The numbers
have been headed in the right direction (up or down as appropriate) since
Q4FY94. And the numbers have held their direction for 3 quarters now.
It is just that we were so far down that it took a while for the effect of
all of the numbers to break into the black. So I am feeling pretty good
about this. Not because of the "couch change" amount of the profit ($19M
profit on $3B+ revenue is miniscule) but because we have shown that we can
sustain the direction of positive movement.
-- Ken Moreau
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3553.80 | Honesty what a concept!!! | SWAM2::OCONNELL_RA | wandering the west | Fri Feb 03 1995 15:19 | 8 |
| Out here in the field the part that makes us feel good about the profit
are:
1. This was the first "honest" profit ie, no unusual restraints on
spending.
2. We did business as usual with normal fiscal responsility.
This means no end of quarter freeze on buying normal business
needs till next quarter. We bought/consumed what was nessesary to
do our business.
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