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3423.1 | Just another quarter of losses... | POBOX::CORSON | Higher, and a bit more to the right | Tue Oct 04 1994 16:24 | 1 |
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3423.2 | Simple at a high level | DIODE::CROWELL | Jon Crowell | Tue Oct 04 1994 16:56 | 9 |
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They plan to make a profit by balancing the equation:
Profit = revenue - expense
! Where you either reduce expense. That's us...
! or..
! You increase Revenues (That's much harder than expense cuts)
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3423.3 | | WMOIS::DIXON | | Wed Oct 05 1994 10:20 | 22 |
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Strongly suggest that we need to increase revenue and reduce expense
(vs either).
We have reduced costs by some 45K employees while holding revenues
flat only to discover that the net impact was a fiscal $500m operating
loss.
Picture a presentation to the Board back in FY 87. Stock at $200,
the company generationing a profit and a plan to reduce costs by
some 45K employees while holding revenue flat. Just imagine the
the profit project/speculation that would sizzle around the room.
Now,time travel to 94 and look at the realities of the computer
industry margins. Surprised ?
One again,picture the same presentation to the Board in 1994 with
a plan to reduce costs by some 20K employees. Just imagine the
speculation regarding P & L. Now time travel ahead X years.
I believe we are positioned for recovery. More focus on the revenue
side would feel much better. Seems we still spend a great deal
of DVN communication time addressing DEC of the 80's and the mess
in Digital today. The 80's was a DECADE ago,this is the mid 90's !
When the conversation is DIGITAL TODAY and TOMORROW vs DEC yesterday
and today;bet the ranch on $200 stock!
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3423.4 | Words of wisdom from ther Emerald City | GLDOA::WERNER | | Wed Oct 05 1994 10:23 | 13 |
| Perhaps they are all to busy promoting each other and holding internal
reorganization meetings. I'm hopeful that sometime around the end of
May, 1995, that we will finally have the organizational strucuture in
place and can begin work on a plan for FY94. Of course that may be
optimistic. (Oh, my! Did a negative thought slip out there? Please
ignore the man behind the curtain. The great and powerful OZ is in
complete control and will have your company reorganized at any moment
now. Just click your heels together and repeat - I wish I wasn't the
only one left. I wish I wasn't the only one left... and poof - you'll
disappear too! Watch what you wish for...it just may come true!)
;^) OFWAMI
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3423.5 | | HANNAH::KOVNER | Everything you know is wrong! | Wed Oct 05 1994 13:30 | 21 |
| Re .2:
> They plan to make a profit by balancing the equation:
> Profit = revenue - expense
> ! Where you either reduce expense. That's us...
> ! or..
> ! You increase Revenues (That's much harder than expense cuts)
That does seem to be how Digital management is going about increasing profits.
The problem is that revenue and expense are not independent; they are each
functions of a lot of variables (some in common between the two).
I'm afraid that the way management is going about it, the revenue curve will
finally meet the expense curve at zero.
Yes, expenses have to be cut. But they have to be cut in the way that minimizes
the effect on revenue. To do that, you need to know where your revenue is really
coming from.
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3423.6 | Atypical revenue stream might help | BROKE::TAYLOR | Not powered by Zima(tm) | Wed Oct 05 1994 13:34 | 5 |
| I predict a small profit. How can we miss with that ~$400,000,000
sale to Quantum (which seemed to be timed for the Q1 close) ?? If
we still show a loss, something is really bad.
Mike
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3423.7 | | NOTIME::SACKS | Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085 | Wed Oct 05 1994 13:36 | 2 |
| The sale to Quantum will be an extraordinary item. Investors will be looking
for operating profits.
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3423.8 | Quantum sale in Q1 or Q2 | SWAMPD::ZIMMERMANN | I'm a DECer, not a DECie | Wed Oct 05 1994 14:00 | 6 |
| The completion of the sale to Quantum was announced to have been
completed Oct. 3, which is Q2. Anybody know if the 'revenue' will be
counted as part of Q1, or Q2.
Mark
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3423.9 | not revenue or profit. | RANGER::BRADLEY | Chuck Bradley | Wed Oct 05 1994 14:05 | 4 |
| if it happened in q2 it will be counted in q2.
it will not count as revenue. it will not affect profit.
it is strictly a balance sheet transaction.
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3423.10 | Obviously noone has a clue! | ODIXIE::GELINEAU | | Wed Oct 05 1994 16:16 | 1 |
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3423.11 | | USAT05::BENSON | | Wed Oct 05 1994 16:40 | 2 |
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I think we all have a clue - we'll lose millions of $$.
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3423.12 | Precise information. | BONNET::WLODEK | Network pathologist. | Wed Oct 05 1994 17:42 | 4 |
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Damiani said recently that we lose M$3.0 a day. How many days had Q1 ?
Maybe we lose less on Sundays ?
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3423.13 | ..... | SWAM1::MEUSE_DA | | Wed Oct 05 1994 19:19 | 6 |
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If we make a profit. Then they should bring back........
the holiday turkeys.
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3423.14 | A good omen? | KOALA::HAMNQVIST | | Wed Oct 05 1994 19:38 | 4 |
| Our group just got a bunch of office supplies, today, that had been on order
for some time. I hope we're not buying post-its on credit.
>Per
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3423.15 | Enjoy your Sundays. | BONNET::WLODEK | Network pathologist. | Thu Oct 06 1994 05:06 | 4 |
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From reliable source, we actually make money on Sundays, the only
( to my admittedly limited knowledge) subsidiary that works on Sunday,
Israel , is profitable.
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3423.16 | ARRRRGGHHH! | MSDOA::BELLAMY | Ain't this boogie a mess? | Thu Oct 06 1994 08:23 | 4 |
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NOOOOOOO!!!! Not another Turkey note!!! ;-)
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3423.17 | cluck | SWAM1::MEUSE_DA | | Thu Oct 06 1994 12:52 | 4 |
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you bet...can't afford that...then give us..chickens.
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3423.18 | Thoughts on Reorganization | GLDOA::BIRGE | | Fri Oct 07 1994 15:15 | 12 |
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on organization changes:
"We trained hard -- but it seemed that every time we were beginning to
form into teams, we would be reorganized. I was to learn later in life
that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing. And what a
wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while
producing confusion, inefficiency and demoralization."
Gaius Petronius Arbiter - First Century A.D.>
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3423.19 | When ? | KIRKTN::MCOMMONS | | Mon Oct 10 1994 11:50 | 4 |
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When are the results announced
Martin.
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3423.20 | | AIMHI::FLATHERS | | Mon Oct 10 1994 18:01 | 5 |
| >When are the results announced
Typically, 7 to 10 business days after a quater's end
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3423.21 | realsoon | FIREBL::LEEDS | From VAXinated to Alphaholic | Sun Oct 16 1994 01:08 | 3 |
| >When are the results announced
Oct 19th...
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3423.22 | | POBOX::BATTIS | That's why the ladys a tramp | Wed Oct 19 1994 09:33 | 8 |
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$131 million loss or $.98 cents a share. Last year's first quarter loss
was $154 million. We reduced headcount by 4,000 from last quarter.
Sales were up 4% to $3.122 billion from $3.015 billion. Now to see how
Wall Street reacts to these numbers, bet that they won't be surprised
at all. Stock will probably go up, just a matter of how much.
Mark
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