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3171.1 | Well, Elf seems to think so :-) | KLAP::porter | justified and ancient | Wed Jun 15 1994 14:14 | 8 |
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� elf ed services
Name: HERMANCE SERVIN
DTN: 858-2016, Telephone: [33]169875111
ALL-IN-1 mail: MTS$::"ATY::HERMANCE SERVIN"
Internal Mail Addr: ANTONY
Location: ATY
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3171.2 | Ed Services now part of IDC | CUPMK::TALBOT | | Wed Jun 15 1994 14:19 | 9 |
| Ed Services evolved into something called DCD (Documentation and Course
Development??) and then merged with the Corporate User Publications
(CUP) organization to form an organization called IDC (Information
Design and Consulting). You will find different dept. numbers listed on
p. 181 of the (December) Digital phone book. Sites are listed, as well
as services. Hope this helps.
Leo
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3171.3 | VTX PMP, Option 7, Catalog/Calendar | EPS::RODERICK | Insist on heroes. Be one. | Wed Jun 15 1994 14:23 | 11 |
| re .0
Under VTX LEARNING, after you enter your badge and hire date info,
select option 7, Catalog/Calendar, to access what was VTX LEARNING.
It appears to have many of the functions VTX LEARNING had. I couldn't
figure out how to reschedule a course this way and called 264-7000 to
speak to a human. Somewhere in one of the PMP options is a description
why VTX LEARNING has been consumed by PMP.
Good luck,
Lisa
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3171.4 | Worldwide Development and Learning | ASABET::ISRAELITE | | Wed Jun 15 1994 17:08 | 6 |
| IDC got the ESDP part of Ed Services. The rest has been reborn as
Worldwide Development and Learning, which has been rendered much
smaller than it used to be. There is a notes file about this, which I
think is Memit::Worldwide_DL. You might want to take a look.
LI
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3171.5 | | SWAM1::BALDWIN_LE | Leon Baldwin | Wed Jun 15 1994 17:15 | 18 |
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> 1) Is there an Ed Services left at DEC?
Two to three years ago Educational Services was renamed to
Digital Learning Services. This organization handles hardware
and software training for employees and customers.
Some internal training for support people and the ILC's
(Individual Learning Centers for field service) came to be
under MCS (Multivendor Customer Services) ... I beleive.
MCS training seems to be almost extinct.
> 2) How do I get in touch with them?
For employee training see reply -1
Customers call 1-800-332-5656 for information or registration.
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3171.6 | Education & Training Logistics | BRAT::JASINSKI | | Wed Jun 15 1994 17:22 | 15 |
|
Education & Training (formerly Ed Services) consists of Worldwide
Development & Learning (employee training) and Digital Learning
Services (customer training).
We have a logistics operation in Nashua, NH which supplies books and
materials to the U.S. training sites and to foreign subsidiaries. We
also offer a variety of distribution services and print & media repro-
duction. For more information, you can call me at DTN 264-5640.
Regards,
Steve Jasinski
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3171.7 | Hello | GLDOA::JDOYLE | dark winds move shadows.... | Wed Jun 15 1994 18:00 | 15 |
| Hi Beth,
Hope your settled in and doing fine. You may want to contact Bill
Kingsbury back here in Detroit for some info. He can be reached at
DTN:471.5486
take care....
John
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3171.8 | MCS Training Update | ICS::WALSH_D | | Thu Jun 16 1994 09:17 | 262 |
| I N T E R O F F I C E M E M O R A N D U M
Date: 09-Jun-1994 10:43am EDT
From: June Whalen @MRO
WHALEN.JUNE AT A1 AT USCTR1 AT MRO
Dept: US Area - Education & Training
Tel No: DTN
TO: BOB GOOD @MRO
Subject: TRAINING COMMUNICATION #1: UPDATE ON MCS PROCESS
*********************************************************************************************************************************************
IMPORTANT TRAINING PROCESS INFORMATION...DISTRIBUTE THROUGHOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION
********************************************************************************
As a result of the recent downsizing activity the MCS Development and Learning
organization has a different operating model and process. The purpose of this
memo is communicate what the process is and how your training needs will be
validated, approved, and implemented. This is the first in a series of Training
Communications which will be sent to you on a regular basis to keep you informed
as we manage our process. We welcome and look forward to your feedback to
insure the model meets your needs.
Q4-Q1 Process
**************
Today you can receive training to support current customer contracts.
HOW?
Complete the attached exception request form (from Karen Kuperberg's memo).
Send the request to Bob Good @MRO, CC: June Whalen @MRO.
The request will then be escalated to Senior MCS management for
approval. You will be notified when your request has been approved.
FY'95
As the MCS FY'95 direction becomes clearer and we understand the critical
development and learning needs to support the mission we will communicate
those initiatives to you.
Following are some of the givens for FY'95:
* Training, in support of our Multivendor vision, will be 100% outsourced.
* Training attendance will be tied directly to an employee's development plan.
* The AMCS budget for training will be held at headquarters.
* All field, business segment, and functional training requests will be brought
forward and prioritized by the Americas Business Segment team.
If you have any questions regarding MCS training please contact me
@ DTN 297-5775 or (508)-467-5775 or June Whalen @MRO
I look forward to working with you.
Regards,
June Whalen
Americas MCS Development and Learning Manager
MCS Development & Learning Work Process Model
IDENTIFY CREATE or PROVIDE MANAGE &
TRAINING ----> IDENTIFY INTERNAL/ MAINTAIN
NEED ----> TRAINING -----> EXTERNAL -----> TRAINING
| SOLUTION TRAINING SOLUTIONS
| OPTIONS SOLUTION |
| <reporting> | | <feedback> |
|---------------------|----------------------|----------------------|
<-- Ongoing Process Management -->
Work with Corporate & Source Training Publish Training Vendor
Americas Business Solutions Internally Solution Availability Management
Segments to Identify & Externally & Procedures to Quality
Needed Skill Sets Register Management
I N T E R O F F I C E M E M O R A N D U M
Date: 18-May-1994 01:18pm EDT
From: Readers Choice
CHOICE.READERS AT A1 at SALES at MRO
Dept:
Tel No:
TO: See Below
Subject: #7351-Exception Process
From: Karen Kupferberg, DTN 223-1467, @MLO or ASABET::KUPFERBERG
On Friday, May 20th all existing purchase orders and all outstanding
requisition requests in the areas outlined in the attached memo of
13-May-94, will be closed or canceled. The following exception process
has been implemented for exception requests. Follow the same exception
procedure for non-revenue related travel/training exceptions:
1. Prepare business justification, customer impact
(See attached form).
2. Obtain approval of SLT member and Business Unit/
Functional Finance Manager.
3. Submit to Corporate Controller's Office
(Controller @ MLO).
It is imperative that you all follow these guidelines. We will be
monitoring the compliance to these policies; especially the usage of
miscellaneous procurement vouchers in lieu of the purchasing systems.
All exceptions will be decided and communicated within 24 hours after SLT
approval.
EXCEPTION PROCESS FOR 5/13/94 POLICY CHANGES
Date: ____________________
REQUESTED BY: ____________________ DTN: ____________________
Electronic
Mail Address: ____________________
REQUEST:
COST $:
BUSINESS JUSTIFICATION:
TIMING?
P.O. # or REQUISITION #:
(If Applicable)
COMMENTS:
_____________________ _____________________ ____________________
SLT Member SLT Member Controller Corporate Controller
From: NAME: Vin Mullarkey @MLO
FUNC: Corporate Finance
Date: 13-May-1994
Subject: Q4 COST ACTIONS
TO: DIGITAL MANAGEMENT
In an effort to improve upon the most recent financial forecasts all
units of the company have been directed to take additional steps to
reduce spending this quarter. Accordingly, the Senior Leadership
Team has approved the following actions:
o Stop expenditures on external consultants.
- Stop new and cancel existing purchase orders for external
consultants except where they are involved in the delivery of
services for which there is an existing revenue contract or
to meet legal obligations.
o Stop both domestic and international travel, not in direct support
of Q4 product orders or services contracts.
- Cancel travel unless related to direct customer activity.
o Stop all off-site meetings.
o Freeze capital spending.
- Defer all categories of capital spending including internal
equipment (i.e., IEG).
o Stop external employee training.
- Cancel and defer these activities except approved degree
tuition reimbursement programs.
o Defer all purchases of office supplies (including software
purchases).
In addition to the above actions, the Senior Leadership Team has
decided to suspend the matching of employee charitable contributions.
Purchasing managers have been instructed to cancel existing purchase
orders by Friday, May 20 unless an exception has been approved by your
respective Senior Leadership Team member and the Corporate
Controller's office. Requests for exceptions should include explicit
business justifications. Please work with your respective Finance and
Purchasing managers to ensure these actions are immediately
implemented. Compliance will be closely monitored. Additional actions
are currently being discussed and will be communicated shortly.
Distribution:
This message was delivered to you utilizing the Readers Choice delivery
services. You received this message because you are a U.S. Cost Center
Manager/Manager or you are an APA/European Manager. If you have questions
regarding this message, please contact the author of the memo.
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3171.9 | No Longer an Ed. Services at Digital | NEMAIL::TOOMEYR | | Thu Jun 16 1994 10:13 | 14 |
|
For all intents and purposes there is no Ed Services at DEC any longer.
The new organization is called Worldwide Development and Learning,
managed by Hope Greenfield. This organization is responsible for
internal D&L. The old Customer Training organization is called
Digital Learning Services and it's in the process of going out of
business.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Bob
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3171.10 | LS lives! | GOONS::CLARKE | Me? Very Resourceful! | Thu Jun 16 1994 10:34 | 16 |
| Re .9
I hope most reader's understand your comments are directed to US and not rest of
World.
European LS is still thriving and in particular UK LS is having its best 2 qtrs
results. If we are going out of business it is not because of delivery, content
and profit but because of worldwide decisions that are outsourcing operations
Please do not give global comments without hard facts we are trying like hell to
ensure DC and LS are profitable
thanks
Alan
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3171.11 | | SAHQ::RIPPCONDI | | Thu Jun 16 1994 11:06 | 6 |
| re: 3171.9 If you know something we don't, I would appreciate it if
you would share it with the rest of the customer training
organization...I still am part of Cust Training., and still employed.
I arrange custom training solutions for customers and I have not been
told that we are going out of business....What is your basis for
information.
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3171.12 | What's happening is scary! | ROMEOS::TREBILCOT_EL | | Thu Jun 16 1994 15:06 | 61 |
| Re: .7
Hi John! Yes, settling in fine out here in sunny California!
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll give Bill a call.
Thank you all for your input.
I know that the "former" Ed Services ("A rose by any other name would
smell as sweet") or whatever it's called these days has taken on
different charters.
What disturbs me is that when Sales Support was placed under Digital
Consulting for those months, we were told that there was a directive
(from corporate - wherever that may be) to get us all up to speed and
trained to be in competition with the Anderson Contultings of the
world, and then all of a sudden there is another freeze on training...
How are we supposed to be competitive if we aren't allowed to be
trained?
Also....
In my experience with Digital training over the last almost six years,
I can say that internal training was always excellent! The instructors
were good, professional, etc etc.
However, whenever it has been outsourced the training has been less
than satisfactory. To be specific:
When I was in a DOS/MS training class awhile back, being taught by a
company called "Catapult" all the instructor could say to the questions
fielded her way was, "I don't know. I don't work for DEC." It ended
up that the members of the class internally answered the questions.
Also, when I had a recent class taught by a non-internal instructor,
all I heard through the entire class was how awful DEC products were,
how they were known for being terrible, etc etc. The man even
brought in a competitor's pc because he said he knew our pc's were
terrible. And this guy was teaching a class to a bunch of DEC people!
Now, when former DEC employees have been brought back to teach a DEC
class internally, it went well, as they were former employees, they
were professional, etc etc
So I worry that by down-sizing and outsourcing all our educational
services, we are cutting our own throats. I don't think Digital
classes can be known for their excellence if they aren't Digital people
(or former DECies) teaching the class.
Why, even in my recent attendance at the Network Focused Technical
College, the ex-DECies got through to the class better than the college
PhD's who were teaching what sounds nice from a text book, but doesn't
fly in reality...
It's sad to watch what is happening educationally...because education
is so important to the success of an individual as well as a company...
Beth
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3171.13 | | AXEL::FOLEY | Rebel without a Clue | Thu Jun 16 1994 15:28 | 11 |
| > How are we supposed to be competitive if we aren't allowed to be
> trained?
For the same reason you can't have any pudding if you don't eat
your meat?
Let's face it, the outcome of todays board meeting is going to
make or break this company.
mike
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3171.14 | | ICS::BEAN | Attila the Hun was a LIBERAL! | Thu Jun 16 1994 18:54 | 35 |
| re: <<< Note 3171.9 by NEMAIL::TOOMEYR >>>
-< No Longer an Ed. Services at Digital >-
< For all intents and purposes there is no Ed Services at DEC any longer.
This "appears" to be so... but, is arguable. I think it's safe to say
the "old" model is gone... a new model is developing. My personal
opinion is that the new model, which is supposedly based on Self-paced
instruction of various schemes, will probably fall far short of actual
training requirements. It is certainly true that there are no more
instructors in MCS (Internal training).
< The new organization is called Worldwide Development and Learning,
< managed by Hope Greenfield. This organization is responsible for
< internal D&L.
No comment.
< The old Customer Training organization is called
< Digital Learning Services and it's in the process of going out of
< business.
To the best of my knowledge, this is totally false. DLS is a profit
making organization, and I have not heard any plans to dismantle.
Unfortunately, we are a part of Digital Consulting, and will probably
suffer whatever fate befalls that organization.
< Hope this helps.
Not particularly.
tony
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3171.16 | Ouch! | CSCMA::SMITH | | Wed Jul 06 1994 20:21 | 6 |
| Isn't that a lot of red tape just to get trained on a product? Won't we
just have more untrained people working on things they shouldn't? Why
don't you trust the direct managers to decide what training is needed in
their group?
Sharon
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3171.17 | ...need an Alpha AXP for my students... | ANGLIN::OBLACK | stuck on a silver web | Thu Jul 07 1994 03:12 | 9 |
| re -.1 good questions. My district does some of its own training
in house (DOS, UNIX, PATHWORKS, etc.) I teach OSF/1 util & commands
and sys admin, as well as taking service and support calls for MCS.
Any extra help with our meager training budget would be greatly
appreciated! We can make wise training decisions here at the local
level, so why not just send us a share of those training funds in
advance and save all that red tape! :^}
marty
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3171.18 | Can Put This to Good Use... | HLDE01::VUURBOOM_R | Roelof Vuurboom @ APD, DTN 829 4066 | Thu Jul 07 1994 03:53 | 68 |
| >We welcome and look forward to your feedback to
>insure the model meets your needs.
Seeing you asked...congratulations on putting a textbook example
together on bureaucratic procedure (no easy thing to do).
The procedure seems to satisfy all of the essential characteristics
which are:
- do NOT empower at the lowest possible level (in this case
the direct manager/supervisor)
- ensure that there are multiple layers of "control"
- ensure that it is NOT made clear what the value add of
each layer might be. Multiple layers of unclear value-
add ensures that accountability
remains diffuse (lower layer can point to higher layer
and vice verse). Diffuse accountability is, of course, an essential
characteristic of any true bureaucratic procedure
- at the top layer ensure multiple signoffs (just in case anyone
might say that the top layer remains accountable,
multiple signoffs will serve to ensure diffuseness). Naturally,
as before make sure it is NOT clear what each of the signer-offers
value add is and what they are accountable for.
- do NOT attempt to differentiate between small and large, simple
and complex. In other words, make sure that a request for $10
needs to follow the same path as one for $10000
- do NOT put any deadline limits in the non-value-add approval
chain nor any sanctions on delays. This helps ensure delays
in the process. Another essential bureaucratic characteristic.
- do NOT make clear what the characteristics for success are (in
this case, what types of request can expect approval and what
types can expect rejections). This makes sure that the process
work to successful result ratio remains low while people try to
determine what the (non-available/non-public) decision criteria are.
In my work with process reengineering at customer sites
I can always use textbook examples of how NOT to go about
things so thanks for working one out for me! :-)
[Oh, by the way, so what's the "right" way? Just take out the
NOTs in above.
For example, empower the direct supevisors to make the
decisions. A clear written motivation for the request would be
essential (ensures accountability). The supervisor is
accountable for this.
Requests above a certain amount must explain exactly how the
payback will come about in the designated period. These have to
have a followup motivation at the end of the period showing
that this has indeed occured and if not why not (differentiate
between small and large).
The supervisor is and
remains accountable for the clarity and availibility of
these written motivations/accountabilities.
The process is controllable (supervisor must be able to show
written motivations for requests, supervisor must be able
to show (sic) accountability report for larger requests) but
not controlled.
Working out some other elements on the basis of the above list
is left as an exercise to the reader :-). Working out the benefits
and efficiencies of the above approach is left as an exercise to MCS
:-).
re roelof
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3171.19 | I agree with him | PEKING::RICKETTSK | Michael's dad - 21-Apr-94 | Thu Jul 07 1994 04:35 | 7 |
| Re. .18; Hear! hear!
Have you tried (risked?) mailing a copy of your note to any of the
individuals named in .15? Although feedback may be asked for, I
wouldn't rely on them getting it by reading it here.
Ken
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3171.20 | | NYEM1::CRANE | | Thu Jul 07 1994 08:47 | 3 |
| I was informed that I don`t have any training skills so there was
nothing I could teach...even though I was part of the JIT/TQM training
in NIO.
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