Title: | The Digital way of working |
Moderator: | QUARK::LIONEL ON |
Created: | Fri Feb 14 1986 |
Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
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Copyright � Dow Jones & Co. 1992 Source: DJ International Economic News Wire Headline: Digital Equipment Results -2-: 3rd Qtr Financial Table Time: Apr 09 1992 1428 Story: 3rd Quar March 28: 1992 1991 Revenues 3,252,514,000 dlrs 3,520,358,000 dlrs Net income (294,111,000) 116,573,000 Avg shrs (primary) 124,671,305 124,140,995 Shr earns (primary) Net income (2.36) .94 Figures in brackets are losses. -- 1826GMT categoryIndustry I/CPR categorySubject N/INV categoryMarketSector M/TEC categoryGeographic R/MA categoryCompany DEC
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1842.1 | From Livewire | RANGER::LEFEBVRE | Let's eat sushi and not pay | Thu Apr 09 1992 16:56 | 167 |
Q3 financial results from Livewire Following are Digital's operating results for Q3 which were released to the public today at 2 p.m. (Eastern Daylight Time). Given all of the circumstances, the company felt it important to release its quarterly results earlier than originally anticipated. [7m Digital reports third quarter operating results [m For the quarter, the company reported total operating revenues of $3,252,514,000, down 8 percent from the $3,520,358,000 of the comparable quarter a year ago. The company reported a net loss for the quarter of ($294,111,000), compared with net income of $116,573,000 for the comparable quarter a year ago. Per share results for the quarter were ($2.36) versus $.94 last year. For the nine months ending March 28, 1992, the company reported total operating revenues of $10,025,088,000, up 1 percent from the $9,966,145,000 of the comparable period a year ago. Net loss for the nine months was ($403,858,000), versus $253,891,000 net income for the comparable period a year ago. Per share results were ($3.24) versus $2.06 last year. The revenue shortfall was due in part, to the persistent worldwide economic slowdown especially in Europe and Japan, the negative impact of currency movements and pricing pressure. Larger corporations have, in general, cut back on capital expenditures because of the weak economic environment and this has had an impact on a large part of the Company's business. While the company has done very well selling PCs, workstations and other low-end products, it is still a supplier of more complex, sophisticated solutions to large companies. Product margins declined due principally to lower than anticipated volumes. Additionally, with the success of the company's PC direct-marketing efforts and new, low-cost workstations, the company has seen a continued shift to low-end, lower margin products. The company experienced sharp overall unit growth versus a year ago as it continued to sell more computer systems and even more computing power. However, advances in technology and competitive pricing pressures offset this growth. Jack Smith, senior vice president for Operations said, "While we are very disappointed with the quarter's results, we remain confident in our strategy and overall direction as we continue to introduce leading new technologies and to penetrate new markets. The recently announced Alpha program is being widely hailed by customers as the leading price/performance architecture on the market today. Later this month DECWORLD will begin in Boston where more than 25,000 customers will see our current hardware, software and services as well as our future directions and technology migration strategy. "In addition, our sales organization has made significant inroads into fast-growing sectors such as pharmaceuticals, health care and telecommunications, as well as the personal computer and small business markets. Similarly, we continue to see good growth on the services side for systems integration and desktop services. We intend to maintain this momentum as well. "On the cost side, our efforts have accelerated in the past quarter. Since restructuring efforts were initiated, total occupied space will have declined by 7.3 million square feet by the end of the fiscal year. Overall employee headcount declined by an additional 3,500 in the quarter, bringing total worldwide headcount net of acquisitions, from a high of 126,000 to 106,000. We also announced a special early retirement program in the U.S. which is expected to reduce employee headcount even further. "We will continue to pursue aggressively our restructuring efforts to achieve additional cost reductions across all functions and geographies," Smith concluded. "As a result, the company is evaluating the need for an additional restructuring charge in the fourth quarter ending in June, to cover the cost of continuing these efforts. Looking out over the remainder of this fiscal year and the first half of next year, we remain cautious about both revenues and profits due to the uncertainties in both the industry and worldwide economies." THREE MONTHS ENDED MARCH 28, 1992 MARCH 30, 1991 PRODUCT SALES 1,750,448,000 2,100,437,000 SERVICE & OTHER REVENUES 1,502,066,000 1,419,921,000 TOTAL OPERATING REVENUES 3,252,514,000 3,520,358,000 COST OF PRODUCT SALES 1,020,083,000 989,372,000 SERVICE EXPENSE 956,308,000 860,405,000 TOTAL COST OF SALES 1,976,391,000 1,849,777,000 RESEARCH & ENGINEERING 429,000,000 397,999,000 SELLING GENERAL & ADMINISTRATIVE 1,132,780,000 1,100,980,000 NET INTEREST (INCOME)/EXPENSE (11,546,000) (7,742,000) INCOME BEFORE INCOME TAXES (274,111,000) 179,344,000 INCOME TAXES 20,000,000 62,771,000 NET INCOME (294,111,000) 116,573,000 AVERAGE NUMBER OF SHARES OUTSTANDING 124,671,305 124,140,995 NET INCOME PER SHARE $ (2.36) $ .94 NINE MONTHS ENDED MARCH 28, 1992 MARCH 30, 1991 PRODUCT SALES 5,552,684,000 5,955,320,000 SERVICE & OTHER REVENUES 4,472,404,000 4,010,825,000 TOTAL OPERATING REVENUES 10,025,088,000 9,966,145,000 COST OF PRODUCT SALES 3,020,558,000 2,791,464,000 SERVICE EXPENSE 2,783,437,000 2,462,770,000 TOTAL COST OF SALES 5,803,995,000 5,254,234,000 RESEARCH & ENGINEERING 1,257,665,000 1,203,808,000 SELLING GENERAL & ADMINISTRATIVE 3,360,008,000 3,190,613,000 NET INTEREST (INCOME)/EXPENSE (43,876,000) (52,574,000) INCOME BEFORE INCOME TAXES (352,704,000) 370,064,000 INCOME TAXES 51,154,000 116,173,000 NET INCOME (403,858,000) 253,891,000 AVERAGE NUMBER OF SHARES OUTSTANDING 124,588,374 123,080,647 NET INCOME PER SHARE $ (3.24) $ 2.06 Q3 - FY 92 PRODUCT SALES ........................... DLRS 1,750,448,000 SERVICE AND OTHER REVENUES............... 1,502,066,000 TOTAL OPERATING REVENUES................. 3,252,514,000 COST OF PRODUCT SALES.................... 1,020,083,000 SERVICE EXPENSE.......................... 956,308,000 TOTAL COST OF SALES...................... 1,976,391,000 GROSS MARGIN 39.2% RESEARCH & ENGINEERING................... DLRS 429,000,000 SG&A (SELLING, GENERAL & ADMINISTRATION). 1,132,780,000 OPERATING INCOME/(LOSS).................. (285,657,000) OPERATING MARGIN ---- INTEREST INCOME.......................... DLRS (16,846,000) INTEREST EXPENSE......................... 5,300,000 INCOME/(LOSS) BEFORE INCOME TAXES........ (274,111,000) PRE-TAX MARGIN ---- TAXES (TOTAL FEDERAL, STATE AND FOREIGN). 20,000,000 EFFECTIVE TAX RATE 7.3% NET INCOME/(LOSS)........................ DLRS (294,111,000) EPS...................................... (2.36) AVERAGE SHARES OUTSTANDING............... 124,671,305 BALANCE SHEET - Q3 FY92 CASH & CASH EQUIVALENTS.................. DLRS 1,547,355,000 ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE (NET)................ 3,158,286,000 (RE: A.R. DAYS SALES OUTSTANDING) 87 DAYS INVENTORIES: RAW MATERIALS......... 309,999,000 WORK IN PROCESS....... 576,945,000 FINISHED GOODS........ 937,490,000 TOTAL............. DLRS 1,824,434,000 PREPAID EXPENSES......................... 397,435,000 DEFERRED INCOME TAX CHARGES, NET......... 427,700,000 TOTAL CURRENT ASSETS..................... 7,355,210,000 NET PROPERTY, PLANT & EQUIPMENT.......... 3,609,501,000 TOTAL ASSETS............................. 11,540,571,000 SHORT TERM DEBT & CURRENT PORTION OF LTD. 39,344,000 TOTAL CURRENT LIABILITIES................ 4,278,874,000 DEFERRED TAX CREDITS NET................. 14,600,000 LONG TERM DEBT........................... 43,734,000 TOTAL LIABILITIES........................ 4,337,208,000 STOCKHOLDER'S EQUITY..................... 7,203,363,000 BOOK VALUE PER SHARE..................... 57.73 CAPITAL SPENDING (ADDITION TO PP&E)...... 157,530,000 DEPRECIATION & AMORTIZATION.............. 224,006,000 NON U.S. REVENUES - QTR.................. 2,025,551,000 or 62% NON U.S. REVENUES - YTD.................. 6,319,100,000 or 63% TOTAL EMPLOYEE POPULATION APPROXIMATELY.. 116,000 | |||||
1842.2 | Wang is Starting to Look Well-Managed | PBST::LENNARD | Thu Apr 09 1992 17:32 | 5 | |
Oh my God!! ...... that rumbling sound you hear is the bloated Greater Maynard Good Old Boys Bureaucratic Anus-protectus, Marching and Chowder Society running for cover. TFSO anyone? | |||||
1842.3 | DEC dropped 6 points! | CSC32::SCHONBRUN | Thu Apr 09 1992 17:46 | 2 | |
DEC dropped 6 points between 3 an 4 pm today! (54.25 to close at 48.25) | |||||
1842.4 | CSC32::S_HALL | Gol-lee Bob Howdy, Vern! | Thu Apr 09 1992 18:21 | 18 | |
> -< Wang is Starting to Look Well-Managed >- > > Oh my God!! ...... that rumbling sound you hear is the bloated Greater > Maynard Good Old Boys Bureaucratic Anus-protectus, Marching and Chowder > Society running for cover. > > TFSO anyone? Aw, shucks, Dick. What's a quarter billion in one quarter amongst friends ? Sheesh, you'd think there was a problem, or something. After all, since we're spending tens of thousands on "The Healing Forest", there can't be a problem with money ! Steve H | |||||
1842.5 | No Comment!!! | HAAG::HAAG | Dreamin' on WY high country | Thu Apr 09 1992 21:16 | 1 |
1842.6 | Don't worry, be happy | DIODE::CROWELL | Jon Crowell | Thu Apr 09 1992 22:28 | 9 |
Don't worry, my friend told me that DEC stock won't ever drop below $68, the book value! They just announced that the NIKKI dropped back to leave the stock value of companies there about where they were about 6 years ago.. Scary stuff. Jon | |||||
1842.7 | Help we've fallen and we can't get up! | SCAACT::RESENDE | Spit happens, Daddy! | Thu Apr 09 1992 22:30 | 1 |
Why do I feel like we're all trapped in an unending nightmare .... | |||||
1842.8 | INDUCE::SHERMAN | ECADSR::Sherman DTN 223-3326 | Thu Apr 09 1992 22:44 | 1 | |
Nuts ... | |||||
1842.9 | More details on Q3 | DPDMAI::RESENDE | Spit happens, Daddy! | Thu Apr 09 1992 23:35 | 161 |
From: BSS::ICS::CISMAIL "Computer Industry News 09-Apr-1992 1704" 9-APR-1992 15:11:39.85 To: @MISG_NEWS CC: Subj: *** MISG NEWS FLASH *** DEC RESULTS STOCK ASKED OPEN HIGH LOW LAST VOL(100'S) DEC 53 54 7/8 47 1/4 48 1/4 16139 04/09 (DJ) Digital Equipment Results -2-: 3rd Qtr Financial Table 3rd Quar March 28: 1992 1991 Revenues $3,252,514,000 $3,520,358,000 Net income (294,111,000) 116,573,000 Avg shrs (primary) 124,671,305 124,140,995 Shr earns (primary) Net income (2.36) .94 Figures in brackets are losses. 9 Months March 28: 1992 1991 Revenues $10,025,088,000 $9,966,145,000 Net income (403,858,000) 253,891,000 Avg shrs (primary) 124,588,374 123,080,647 Shr earns (primary) Net income (3.24) 2.06 Figures in brackets are losses. John F. Smith, Digital Equipment Corp.'s senior vice president for operations, said, ''While we are very disappointed with the quarter's results, we remain confident in our strategy and overall direction as we continue to introduce leading new technologies and to penetrate new markets.'' ''We will continue to pursue aggressively our restructuring efforts to achieve additional cost reductions across all functions and gepgraphies,'' he said. ''As a result, the company is evaluating the need for an additional restructuring charge in the fourth quarter ending in June, to cover the cost of continuing these efforts. Looking out over the remainder of this fiscal year and the first half of next year, we remain cautious about both revenues and profits due to the uncertainities in both the industry and worldwide economies,'' he said. 04/09 (DJ) Digital Equipment -2-: Job Cuts May Be Deeper Than 10,000 MAYNARD, Mass. -DJ- Digital Equipment Corp. senior vice president John F. Smith said the company will reinstate a program of layoffs in May. In a conference call, he declined to say how many people would be affected. In the past, executives have said they expect to cut as many as 10,000 people from the work force in the fiscal year ending June 30. But Smith seemed to indicate the company would have to cut more deeply. He said that a previsouly reported early retirement program was running ahead of expectations. More than 7,000 people are eligible for the program, Digital's first. Smith also said the effect of unfavorable currency translations for foreign sales cut revenue by $150 million to $200 million. He said third quarter revenues fell about 17 pc in Europe and about 10 pc in the United States compared with the year-ago quarter. Digital Equipment Reports Loss Of $294.1 Million In Quarter --- Digital Equipment Thursday reported a loss for its third quarter of $294.1 million, or $2.36 a share. The figures appear to be well below expectations. As of April 4, analysts surveyed by Zacks Investment Research had a wide range of forecasts, ranging from a gain of 5 cents a share to a loss of $1.15. The mean estimate was for a loss of 61 cents a share. BUSINESS 4/9/92 PAGE 2 OF 3 In the year-ago quarter, Digital earned $116.6 million, or 94 cents a share. The computer giant's revenue dropped by about 8% to $3.25 billion. Digital attributed the revenue shortfall in part to world-wide economic weakness, particularly in Europe and Japan. The company also cited the negative impact of currency movements and pricing pressures. BUSINESS 4/9/92 PAGE 3 OF 3 Digital also said its product margins declined, mostly because of lower-than-anticipated volumes. It also said it is evaulating the need for an additional restructuring charge. It said it ''remained cautious'' about its sales and profits outlook. * * * - Enter //WIRES DEC for company news, //WIRES N/ERN for earnings news. - Enter //QUICK DEC for current stock price and company profile. - Earnings estimates available in //EPS and //WIRES N/ERP. //wires DOW JONES BUSINESS NEWSWIRES Copyright (C) 1992 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. Enter a symbol or a code to get news and releases from seven newswires. Enter /C (Return) to search by company name or to search for a category code by its description. --------------------------------------------------------- To limit your search by newswire group: ENTER FOR 1 Articles from all five Dow Jones newswires 2 Press releases from PR Newswire, Business Wire and Canada NewsWire {dec}------------------------------------------------------ To continuously display articles, enter PRINT and the article numbers. For example, PRINT 1,3,6-9 (Return). ENTER REQUEST, OR PRESS (RETURN) FOR INSTRUCTIONS AND A LIST OF CODES. BUSINESS NEWSWIRES - DEC HEADLINE PAGE 1 1 DJ 16:36 Digital Equipment -2-: Job Cuts May Be Deeper Than 10,000 2 DJ 15:40 *Digital Says 3Q Europe Revs Dn 17 PC, U.S. Revs Dn 10 PC 3 DJ 15:37 *Digital Equipment Says Early Retirements Ahead Of Plan 4 DJ 15:36 *Digital Says Currency Impact On Revenues In 3Q $150M-$200M 5 DJ 15:35 *Digital Equip Sees 'More Aggressive' Work Force Cuts 6 PI 15:31 Digital Equip (DEC) P-Alert: - 3 7/8 on 748,800 - NEWS 7 DJ 15:29 *Digital Equipment (DEC) Resumed Trading 8 PR 15:25 DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION REPORTS THIRD QUARTER OPERATING... 9 DJ 15:18 Digital Equipment (DEC) Ind. 49 - 51. Last 54 1/4 10 DJ 15:16 *Digital Equipment (DEC) Ind. 50 - 52. Last 54 1/4 11 BW 15:04 Digital Equipment reports third quarter operating results 12 DJ 15:02 *Digital Equipment (DEC) Ind. 50 - 53. Last 54 1/4 13 DJ 14:58 Digital Equipment -4-: Commentary On Results 14 DJ 14:52 *Digital Equipment Mulling Added Restructuring Chg In 4Q 15 DJ 14:52 *Digital Equipment (DEC) Ind. 52 - 54. Last 54 1/4 16 DJ 14:38 Digital Equipment -3-: Nine Months Financial Table 17 PI 14:26 (DEC) Earnings Alert: 3Q ($2.36); First Call Mean (66C) 18 DJ 14:25 Digital Equipment Results -2-: 3rd Qtr Financial Table ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SELECT STORY, ENTER PRINT COMMAND OR PRESS (RETURN) FOR MORE HEADLINES. | |||||
1842.10 | Media coverage continues | DPDMAI::RESENDE | Spit happens, Daddy! | Thu Apr 09 1992 23:37 | 2 |
According to a partial news story tonite on either CNBC or CNN, the next round of layoffs will start May 1. | |||||
1842.11 | Due to circumstances beyond our control .... | DPDMAI::RESENDE | Spit happens, Daddy! | Thu Apr 09 1992 23:41 | 11 |
> Given all the circumstances, the company felt it important to > release its quarterly results earlier than originally anticipated. (1) So just _how_ early are these results? 1 or 2 weeks? It isn't possible to close a quarter early, is it? I'd expect not. Altho I'm impressed that we can close, calc and report in 9 days. (2) Is it possible that "the circumstances" include DECworld '92? Along the lines of get the bad news out early and get it forgotten before the year's big marketing event that's supposed to signal the beginning of the turnaround? That would seem like a good theory. | |||||
1842.12 | re .6: Book value is $57.73, not $68 | ADTSHR::TALCOTT | Fri Apr 10 1992 01:01 | 1 | |
1842.13 | CREATV::QUODLING | Ken, Me, and a cast of extras... | Fri Apr 10 1992 01:52 | 6 | |
Hey folks, look on the bright side, stock is down. Increase your ESPP quota, Buy stock until it hurts, and then tell the Board how to run the company... q | |||||
1842.14 | where's the 10K employees? | MRKTNG::SILVERBERG | Mark Silverberg DTN 264-2269 TTB1-5/B3 | Fri Apr 10 1992 07:58 | 7 |
In Jack Smith's text it states the employee headcount declined to 106,000, but in the numbers reported, it shows 116,000. Anyone guess which is correct? Mark | |||||
1842.15 | both are correct | CLARID::HOFSTEE | Take a RISC, buy a VAX | Fri Apr 10 1992 08:09 | 4 |
The last one is correct. The second will be correct at the end of may.... | |||||
1842.16 | One week early. | TPSYS::BUTCHART | TNSG/Software Performance | Fri Apr 10 1992 08:56 | 7 |
re .11 According to the story in the Boston Globe this morning, the results were released about a week earlier than usual. So normally we would have reported the results towards the end of next week. /Dave | |||||
1842.17 | BEING::EDP | Always mount a scratch monkey. | Fri Apr 10 1992 09:25 | 9 | |
Let's see, divide number of outstanding shares by number of employees; that's about 1,250 shares per employee. (How many employees do we have nowadays?) At $48 per share, that's $60,000 per employee, still a bit much for an employee takeover. Or would it be only $30,000, so that employees would own a majority of shares? How many shares are already owned by employees? -- edp | |||||
1842.18 | Massive Layoffs? | POBOX::BATTIS | Who are those guys.... | Fri Apr 10 1992 09:26 | 7 |
Livewire reported that senior mgmt was considering taking a restructuring charge in June for more cost reductions. ie... Layoffs. I have a feeling it's going to be fairly large considering we're losing money like there's no tomorrow. imho Mark | |||||
1842.19 | CIVIC::GIBSON | Fri Apr 10 1992 09:43 | 14 | ||
In the usual quarter end scenario, those of us at the FMC's would still be answering questions about fluctuations from last quarter to this or to the same quarter last year on W2D4. Scoresheet adjustments are usually made by high level management on W2D5. This quarter was not closed early; all numbers were reported to corporate on the usual calendar. They didn't get the final input from each FMC until W2D2 in the early afternoon. I can only think that it was so bad that waiting until the usual W3D4 release would only have caused leaks and speculation in the press -- potentially more damaging than just getting the bad news out. Linda | |||||
1842.20 | 106,000 not including companies we bought... | TRLIAN::GORDON | Fri Apr 10 1992 10:26 | 5 | |
re: .14 that figure is not including acquisitions...this is most likely where the difference is... | |||||
1842.21 | FIGS::BANKS | Still waiting for the 'Scooby-Doo' ending | Fri Apr 10 1992 11:04 | 15 | |
Hmm. Big "restructuring expense" for the last FY due, they say, to getting rid of a bunch of people. Then I read the numbers on this quarter end, and I see expenses are up considerably compared against Q391. At least up by a percentage greater that any pay raise most of us have seen. So, the question is: 1) If employees are our biggest expense 2) We spent a ton of money last year to get rid of a bunch of employees then why are our expenses so much higher this year? Oh, nevermind. | |||||
1842.22 | And the envelope please.... | A1VAX::DISMUKE | Say you saw it in NOTES... | Fri Apr 10 1992 13:54 | 5 |
For this upcoming lay-off session...when will they take nominations? (Let's do it right, this time!)) | |||||
1842.23 | PBST::LENNARD | Fri Apr 10 1992 14:54 | 4 | ||
re-1, logic would say "yes"....that they would finally wise up and institute a voluntary departure program. But, then, I haven't seen any logic around here in the past two years. | |||||
1842.24 | NOMINATE vs. VOLUNTEER | RIPPLE::KOTTERRI | Fri Apr 10 1992 15:43 | 9 | |
Re: Note 1842.23 by PBST::LENNARD > re-1, logic would say "yes"....that they would finally wise up and > institute a voluntary departure program. But, then, I haven't seen > any logic around here in the past two years. Sounded to me like .22 wanted to NOMINATE certain other persons for the "package", not to VOLUNTEER for it, but then I could have gotten it wrong. Now there's an interesting concept... | |||||
1842.25 | A plan, we have a plan | RDVAX::MCCABE | Fri Apr 10 1992 18:03 | 14 | |
Nope. There's a brillant new plan. Every one in the company gets 10 points. You can give the points to anyone, including yourself for protection, or use any of them to detract from anothers points. So if you shoot 5 points off someone who give themselves 5 points the net effect is 0. Anyone going to -20 is a layoff canidate. Then anyone who assigns all 10 point to their own protection is fired. -kevin | |||||
1842.26 | SSDEVO::EGGERS | Anybody can fly with an engine. | Fri Apr 10 1992 18:39 | 1 | |
So X and Y get together and exchange points, right? | |||||
1842.27 | Request for info on tax question | TBEAR::BUZBEE | BEAR with me! | Fri Apr 10 1992 20:31 | 13 |
In preparing to file my annual dues to the US Government, i.e. income taxes (yes DEC does occasionally pays us!). I have come accross an interesting question.. Any help would be appreciated. Question: In light of Digital's recent announcements to Wall Street, I would like to know if my unreimbursed business expenses should be catagorized as a charitable contribution to a non-profit organization. If so, does anyone know Digital's tax exempt number for my paper work? :-) | |||||
1842.28 | RDVAX::KALIKOW | The Gods of the Mill grind slowly... | Sat Apr 11 1992 10:36 | 24 | |
I was going thru a set of PATHWORKS SW and Docsets yesterday and found amongst the shrinkwrapped books and discs and tapes and READ ME FIRSTs -- each neatly printed with its part number -- a piece of cardboard about 4"x7", printed with its own part number, and shrinkwrapped. Since someone else had previously removed all the aforementioned goodies from their presumed original Meta-Shrink-Wrap, I can only surmise that the function of this numbered shrinkwrapped cardboard was to act as some sort of buffer, perhaps between tapes. Thinking more charitably: Perhaps the extremely high density of client-server niftiness represented by all that PATHWORKS SW in a small space required the cardboard's presence to separate it juuuust enough to keep it from achieving critical mass...? That'd be the only reason *I* could think of, to keep lawsuits (from the families of exploded system administrators) far away from DEC's door. So I stuck the shrinkwrapped DEC-Part-Numbered cardboard on my department's bulletin board with a little note saying: A Very Tiny Part of DIGITAL's $290M loss in Q3 (-: Of course, I overstate the case here; PATHWORKS and PCSG were among the few bright spots in the quarter... :-) | |||||
1842.29 | Where's Digital's George? | SNOC01::NICHOLLS | There'll be no circumception here | Mon Apr 13 1992 03:40 | 10 |
Are we (DEC) really owed $3.15 billion for goods/services delivered but not paid for? Does it really take 87 days on average to get money from our "customers" - if that's the word to use for people we give interest free loans to? Boy, if I owe even a small amount to some firms they suggest a big man named George is going to visit me at some unspecified time to discuss my situation. What's going on! | |||||
1842.30 | HOO78C::ANDERSON | Kinnock does it again! | Mon Apr 13 1992 09:44 | 4 | |
Is it just me, or does anyone else get the distinct impression that our management could muck up a spontaneous nocturnal emission? Jamie. | |||||
1842.31 | Don't send George to the wrong place | ERLANG::HERBISON | B.J. | Mon Apr 13 1992 10:31 | 13 |
Re: .29 > Are we (DEC) really owed $3.15 billion for goods/services delivered but > not paid for? Does it really take 87 days on average to get money from > our "customers" - if that's the word to use for people we give > interest free loans to? Take a look at 1822.109. I assume that the PC described accounts for part of the $3.15 billion (at least I hope they haven't paid) -- and I wouldn't call it an `interest free loan'. It is often DEC's fault when bills aren't paid promptly. B.J. | |||||
1842.32 | miles to go still | MRKTNG::SILVERBERG | Mark Silverberg DTN 264-2269 TTB1-5/B3 | Mon Apr 13 1992 12:25 | 11 |
Back in the old days, an "emergency" would have been declared long ago. I just don't see the strong management emphasis on prevention & get-well plans. Maybe there is a lot of churning, but I just don't see or feel it; I just get the feeling we're resigned to this situation. On the radio last Friday am, Mark Steinkraus (sp?) was quoted as saying that expectations are that DEC will return to profitability sometime in calendar year 1993. I take that to mean we have 3-4 more bad quarters to go before we turn things around substantially. | |||||
1842.33 | You did mean 13-14 quarters....right? | PBST::LENNARD | Mon Apr 13 1992 13:07 | 4 | |
Re -1....don't bet any money (or stock) on it happening that soon, or ever. Without fundamental, gut-wrenching change, including wholesale slaughter at the higher levels of the company, it ain't gonna happen. | |||||
1842.34 | SSBN1::YANKES | Mon Apr 13 1992 13:18 | 11 | ||
I read an interesting article yesterday (it was either in the Sunday Nashua Telegraph or Saturday's New York Times if you want to look it up) about some Japanese companies that are losing money and how they are reacting to it. At one large company (I forget which one), *all* of the upper management folks are walking around with a formal letter of resignation in their breast pocket as a symbol of their understanding that they have to turn the situation around or else face the consequences. -craig | |||||
1842.35 | WLDBIL::KILGORE | DCU -- I'm making REAL CHOICES | Mon Apr 13 1992 13:31 | 11 | |
Re .34: Well, our upper management folks walk around with formal letters in their breast pockets, too... of course, they're all pink and have other peoples names on 'em. | |||||
1842.36 | ROYALT::KOVNER | Everything you know is wrong! | Mon Apr 13 1992 14:06 | 2 | |
The article on Japanese executives was in Sunday's New York Times. The executives also took pay cuts of up to 35% of their base pay. | |||||
1842.37 | The Scarlet Letter? | COOKIE::WITHERS | Bob Withers - In search of a quiet moment | Mon Apr 13 1992 14:27 | 8 |
>================================================================================ >Note 1842.35 DEC Q3 FY92 Results 35 of 35 >WLDBIL::KILGORE "DCU -- I'm making REAL CHOICES" 11 lines 13-APR-1992 12:31 >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > of course, they're all pink and have other peoples names on 'em. Maybe the letters should be Scarlet. :-( Sorry, Mr. Hawthorne. | |||||
1842.38 | Mgt in down turn | RT95::HU | Mon Apr 13 1992 14:47 | 21 | |
Re: .34, .35, .36, .37 I don't foresee this will happen in this country, no matter which industry you are talking about, whether it's auto. computer, defense, or entertainment. We all read recent news regarding the overpay of auto executive after the trip to Japan by President Bush, even big three has been in red for yrs. Will anyone bet how our top management willing to salary/bonus/stock_options freeze after latest loss of 294 millions ? Didn't all those prestigious MBA school in U.S teach our management to-be that money and their job security is more important than company's future ? :-) Pls, questions all those Harvard MBA, why they spend 20K/yr to invest firsthand ? Folks, this is called capitalism. Greed and personal interest is flooding in our society system. Sigh for the long run, Michael... | |||||
1842.39 | Business Week 4/20/92 Article | DPDMAI::SODERSTROM | Lady Godiva Ate Chocolates | Tue Apr 14 1992 16:50 | 21 |
Interesting article in this week's Business Week on Page 36. Digital- "It's market value has dropped by $19 billion in four years, executives are bailing out, and despite a recent shakeup, Digital Equipment Corp. suffered its first ever operating loss in the December quarter: A $147 million whopper. That doesn't seem to faze DEC founder and President Kenneth H. Olsen. He hasn't replaced the chief financial officer who left in December, and he dismisses the other departed executives as people who simply aren't team players. "But don't look for any action by the board of the $14 billion minicomputer maker. Olsen, 66, may be the board's only insider, but he hand picks its members. Directors include his college mentor and the retired executives of two companies where Olsen is a director. He refuses to establish a succession plan and last year chastised a board member who advocated one. Says Sherwood Securities Corp. analyst Stephen B. Dube: "To me, there's an inertia there." DEC insists that its board is pretty strong. | |||||
1842.40 | A New Name for DEC?? | PBST::LENNARD | Tue Apr 14 1992 17:24 | 16 | |
My wife and I were talking last night about why you can still go almost anywhere in this country and find that most people never heard of DEC. I mean, in East Armpit, Idaho, CDC, NCR, Apple, etc., are all familiar names......but not Digital Equipment Corporation! We kinda agreed that "Digital Equipment Corporation" is a content-free, uninspiring, vanilla-flavor name. It's not clear to the neophyte what business we are even in. "Digital" to most people means watches, and to a few something to do with numbers. Most farm equipment and heavy equipment companies have "Equipment" in their names. No wonder!! I'm serious now. If you could rename DEC, what would it be? I'll start the bidding with: "OPENSYS" (I know it's silly, but it's a beginning) | |||||
1842.41 | How 'bout "NIH"? | MRCSSE::COLMAN | Tue Apr 14 1992 17:27 | 1 | |
1842.42 | Or "NOD"? | LABRYS::CONNELLY | globally suboptimized in '92 | Tue Apr 14 1992 18:55 | 0 |
1842.43 | Don't do it! | MACNAS::MGRAHAM | Bis dat qui cito dat | Thu Apr 16 1992 04:51 | 12 |
Last time I went through this, the company I worked for went from "Burroughs" (= two or more donkeys in any Spanish speaking country) to "Unisys" (blech!) with a slogan like "the power of 2" or some such nonsense. And look what happened to them! This was just after spending $$millions to change their logo from the old Burroughs "B" to something that looked like rail tracks and which nobody understood! Mike | |||||
1842.44 | dreamer | CSC32::MCDEVITT | Thu Apr 16 1992 12:56 | 29 | |
How the company could have been saved: 2 years back. No lay offs. Vice Presidents and above. Forfeited all pay except $50,000 a year to live on. This will make them react faster and do it right, or they left company. Management below Vice President take pay cuts to top pay of their top worker. Workers below management: take pay cuts to bring salary's at no higher then $40,000 a year. Workers with pay at $25000 and below no change. Now those that can not handle it would leave for greener pastures and good luck. All employees would get a bonus on profits from company if made to be determained by pay at time of down grade. All MBAs must look for work outside company. Oh well, I can dream. I will just dream. No one has guts any more and so they can not get the glory that goes with guts. Bob | |||||
1842.45 | NOTIME::SACKS | Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085 | Thu Apr 16 1992 14:30 | 4 | |
re .44: That would have been a sure way to get rid of all engineering talent in the company. | |||||
1842.46 | SANFAN::ALSTON_JO | Thu Apr 16 1992 18:23 | 5 | ||
re:44 I'll bet you've been with the company 20+ years and can remember when everyone felt that DEC was their own company.(Including engineers) John | |||||
1842.47 | BHAJEE::JAERVINEN | Bitte ein Bit? Bitte 64 Bit!! | Tue Apr 28 1992 09:41 | 5 | |
Maybe we can now claim the discount for non-profit organizations when buying stuff from other companies? � :-) | |||||
1842.48 | non-profit .NE. not for profit 8^} | RICKS::PHIPPS | Tue Apr 28 1992 13:11 | 0 |