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1672.1 | | 16BITS::DELBALSO | I (spade) my (dog face) | Thu Nov 14 1991 21:17 | 7 |
| I can't imagine that there could be any objection in any quarter to such an
action if you are using US Mail. I'm relatively sure that no policy prohibits
or controls it. There is no difference to DEC and the mailroom whether incoming
US mail is personal, business or junk. And Lord knows there's plenty of the
latter.
-Jack
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1672.2 | | SSDEVO::EGGERS | Anybody can fly with an engine. | Fri Nov 15 1991 01:38 | 3 |
| The DEC mail room has, upon occasion, not delivered mail it has
determined to be personal and not business. Sometimes they have been
correct.
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1672.3 | | HOO78C::ANDERSON | Avoid using polysyllabic words | Fri Nov 15 1991 05:30 | 8 |
| Well every year when I go on holiday I send postcards to several
friends at their place of work within DEC. I don't know about the USA
but in the UK interfering with the mail is an offense and, as a letter
is the property of the post office until it is delivered to person to
whom it is addressed when it then becomes their property, I would say
failing to deliver mail could leave you in trouble.
Jamie.
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1672.4 | | 16BITS::DELBALSO | I (spade) my (dog face) | Fri Nov 15 1991 07:02 | 22 |
| Re: .2, Tom
I could be wrong, but I believe the reports of DEC Mailroom interception
of personal mail have all been in relation to personal mail which was
sent via *DIGITAL Interoffice Mail*, rather than US Mail. I can (almost)
understand this since anything in DIGITAL Interoffice Mail should properly be
the company's property anyway.
Re: .3, Jamie
I think the prohibition against tampering with or intercepting US Mail
stops once the mail has left the posession of the USPS, but I could be wrong.
The rationale might be that the USPS has fulfilled their duty by getting
it to the DIGITAL plant in question. Since they don't personally deliver it
to your Mailslot, it's probably not reasonable to assume that any postal
restrictions apply once it's out of their hands. (Any lingering doubts I
have about this center around the idea that supposedly no one is to open
rural mailboxes but the owner and the postal carrier. In this case, apparently
once it's out of the USPS hands, it's still protected. I don't know if such
a case has ever been prosecuted.)
-Jack
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1672.5 | | SBPUS4::LAURIE | ack, no, none, GAL | Fri Nov 15 1991 09:20 | 3 |
| How come you never sent me a card then Anderson?
Miffed_Laurie.
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1672.6 | | SQM::MACDONALD | | Fri Nov 15 1991 09:30 | 7 |
|
Digital has no choice about delivering U.S. mail whether
personal or business. They have lots of choice about
internal mail.
Steve
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1672.7 | | HOO78C::ANDERSON | Avoid using polysyllabic words | Fri Nov 15 1991 10:04 | 5 |
| Re. .5
Reread my reply and you will see why.
Jamie.
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1672.8 | | RTL::LINDQUIST | | Fri Nov 15 1991 11:52 | 14 |
| About four years ago, I took a job in Littleton. I was
temp-living, staying in a hotel, and my wife was back at
my old location.
She foolishly sent me a card, through US mail, addressed
to my digital address.
The fascists in the mailroom refused to deliver it because
it was personal mail.
I believe they decided this because it was a hallmark
envelope, hand addressed.
- Lee Lindquist
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1672.9 | | CSSE32::LESLIE | | Fri Nov 15 1991 12:03 | 3 |
| "Facists"? DOn't dignify fools with names that make them sound more
than they are. Otherwise you degrade the terminology....
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1672.10 | | SQM::MACDONALD | | Fri Nov 15 1991 12:55 | 10 |
|
Re: .8
If you had complained to the US Postal Service, there would
have been quite a flap. The USPS would have been required by
law to investigate and I suspect they would have raised quite
a stink with Digital.
Steve
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1672.11 | | COOKIE::LENNARD | Rush Limbaugh, I Luv Ya Guy | Fri Nov 15 1991 13:00 | 7 |
| Over the years DEC has periodically asked people NOT to send Christmas
cards internally. 'spect they will again. Let's face it, mail rooms,
etc., are barely staffed now. Here in CXN it is completely uncovered.
The whole deal on the mail was run through the grinder a couple of
years ago. Believe that it was decided that Digital was under no
obligation to act as an adjunct to the USPS.
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1672.12 | | ELWOOD::CHRISTIE | | Fri Nov 15 1991 14:13 | 5 |
| I think it depends on the facility you are in. Here at SHR I get lots
of personal mail for people in my department all the time.
Linda
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1672.13 | | RIPPLE::BRENNAN_CA | Boeing GENESYS project | Fri Nov 15 1991 16:08 | 9 |
| When I relocated a few years ago, they needed me immediately, so I
started work before I had a place to live. I gave my work address as a
forwarding address. To this day, I still get L L Bean catalogs at my
work address.
Funny that at one site they won't deliver a card sent through US mail,
while at another they deliver "junk mail."
Cathy
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1672.14 | How is it adressed? | OSL09::MAURITZ | DTN(at last!)872-0238; @NWO | Mon Nov 18 1991 03:50 | 26 |
| Question
What are the rules of adressing in the US & UK? This could be germain
to this discussion.
In my neck of the woods there is a distinction in how one writes an
address:
a) Digital Eq...
Attn: Joe Bloggs
Street adr...
b) Joe Bloggs
c/o Digital ....
Street adr...
In the former case, the adressee is DEC (and is opened by the people
receiving mail); in the second case, the adressee is Joe Bloggs and
should not be opened. Most people, however, are fairly ignorant of this
distinction, and thereby will often accuse "the system" (post office or
Digital mail room) of not doing the right thing. (This is not to say
that they always do do the right thing---ignorance, as we all know, can
spread to many quarters, also mail handlers).
Mauritz
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1672.15 | One *person's* junk is another one's ________! | SDOGUS::BOYACK | I love Insane Diego! | Mon Nov 18 1991 12:36 | 5 |
| re .13
HEY! The L.L. Bean catalog is NOT junk mail...!
8^)
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1672.16 | See 712.26 for the DEC policy; see Postal Regs for the law | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Wed Nov 20 1991 16:47 | 21 |
| This has been discussed before.
Anyone who claims that law or postal regulations in the U.S. have been
violated by Digital refusing to deliver mail
I S W R O N G .
Unless the mail is marked "Deliver to Addressee Only" (and the extra fee
for that service is paid), the U.S. Post Office delivers to the address,
as determined by
T H E L A S T T W O L I N E S .
Once Digital receives the mail from the Post Office, it belongs to Digital,
even if addressed to an individual. Digital can decide whether to deliver
it or not, and the Post Office will not come help if some employee is not
following the Corporate Mail Policy, which states that incoming personal
mail delivered to the correct facility by the Post Office _will_ be delivered
to the employee.
/john
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